StarCraft 2: SIMPLY AMAZING - Reynor vs ShoWTimE in a $500,000 Tournament! (Best-of-3)

[@randomstarscape]

Best series I've ever seen from Showtime. That steady defensive play is a thing of beauty.

[@juansaldana7976]

Reynor: Lowko only cast videos of me losing. Lowko: And I'll do it again!

[@miza6]

hahaha exactly

[@LowkoTV]

"Just don't lose"

[@crazedbutcher6672]

@@LowkoTV If you know the reference, you know the reference. Reynor walks into every Lowko video saying "Nah, I'd win"

[@LHles948]

aw man spoiler alert please >_

[@andreyfrantov1]

Stacked tempests at 01:06:40 kinda looked like fingers on a hand when you try to count them in a dream.

[@mitchmitting102]

I think a good solution to Protoss early game is reducing the spawn time and warp in cooldown time of Gateway units. Gives them more to work with and doesn't scale too heavily into the late game since most the units you want to be rolling with aren't from the Gateway. Even if it's just for Adepts, Zealots and maybe Stalkers, I think it would help them recover from losses.

[@_Hal9000]

The nydusworm play reminds me back in SC2 wings of liberty i sometimes used 2 Nydusworms on hotkeys to mine expansions and build most of the hatcheries in main base. Bronze league strats......

[@julianberger5254]

Serral is not a human. Serral is a freaken Finish Monster

[@mitchmitting102]

Fins are the world's unexpected monsters. Like you don't expect much but then they out here pulling some of the most wildest stuff with casual nonchalance

[@_Hal9000]

Rumors have it, Serral is the Hivemind

[@wanaan]

Also he abuses Vipers. Reynor also won in matches where he uses them, and lost the matches that he went heavy Brood. Viper is totally risk free way to kill high value targets. The only time I think it's not I-Win button is against marine balls (and even in that case, abducting all the Medivac for free will kill Terran)

[@mitchmitting102]

@@wanaan To be fair, it's very much a unit you need to be actively aware while using. Can't get all those amazing spells if you all army them into the other army

[@wojtek5207]

Might be ,but i would say make Viper cost like na extra 15/20 gas and BUFF hydra with some extra healing factor, so they can be player more cost effective

[@alexwood9941]

I know you love your linguistic accuracy, so I’ll mention that “regimen” is a plan or routine and “regiment” is a squad of soldiers. I mix these up all the time too. Keep up the good work!

[@LanceFehr]

Man it's good to see Protoss play when it's not commanded by Hero. That was excellent!!

[@julienpaul4899]

On peut connaitre les 4 premières bases de chaques joueurs en regardant les movements de caméra en début de partie.

[@chemonized]

I think colossus with upgraded range should out range lurkers with their range upgrade. Currently lurkers just counters all ground from protoss.

[@LuisRodriguez-qy5xw]

Ok, Mr. lowko, with his Zerg propaganda.

[@gressorialNanites]

during a game where one of the best protoss in the world made one (1) tiny little mistake with an adept at minute 2, and still lost.

[@Himolino]

​@@gressorialNaniteslosing all those templars early on because of missrallying them is a pretty grave mistake in my book.

[@gressorialNanites]

@@Himolinohang on, I'm just quoting lowko here

[@reinereue9210]

Skill issue protoss OP. Clearly ​@@gressorialNanites

[@votecthulhu9378]

He is infected

[@Mnoukadlo]

"Zerglings surrounding some very expensive protoss units", because all protoss units are very expensive. Maybe that is the solution to protoss early game you were talking about, it is the only race which do not have a 50 mineral no gas unit which you can mass easily. Lets redesign adepts to be massable ranged 50 mineral unit. If cyclone can get new role, adepts can too :)

[@robertkocmirowski3166]

Give the nexus a buff so that shield batteries built in range of the nexus spawn with +50 energy. Then you can fine tune the number while keeping the offensive potential low. Adding the cost of a nexus to a void ray rush should help keep it weak.

[@override83]

an hour+ video of LowKo + early morning coffee = instant click.

[@matthiasvancauteren3107]

I'd say it's both the early AND lategame for protoss that struggle. Terrans have ghosts to deal with broodlords and lurkers, protoss only has tempests and those get hard countered by vipers.

[@matthiasvancauteren3107]

Also stalkers should be able to 2 shot zerglings not 3 shot

[@stjepanjina]

@Lowko What's wrong with the 4k resolution?, the videos are slightly blurred as if they are no longer as sharp as before???

[@SimplyDingo]

Sometimes when I see another 1+ hour cast, I'm silently wishing to see a best of 7 in between Showtime and Spirit on this channel 😅

[@jubalpr.9965]

Just got home from work and saw this dropped, legendary matchup! Big Simon bout to go crazy with this commentary😎

[@velandrii]

Just a small suggestion, maybe some historical info would benefit newbies on this channel. What's the mothership core?

[@baloonman5]

During heart of the swarm protoss had a unit called the mothership core. It was supposed to help them with their early game defense, but it ended up turning every game into "snipe/defend the core" because it was so important for protoss. They couldn't function without it. Eventually the unit got removed, and strategic recall was added to the nexus to take its place.

[@ggtt2547]

Right on time to eat my lunch! Thank you for that Lowko!!

[@juztina7346]

always epic game with showtime... cast more of this eccentric player

[@manuelperez-hv4je]

What an amazing series

[@saintmikeyg3417]

In games like Game 2, when Zerg masses lurkers, why don’t more pro-Protoss players make a few tempests with the upgrade mixed in with the carriers? Just more to micro, forces vipers out? I’ve found that it’s helped in my games, so just curious why it comes out of favour in the pros

[@avinotion]

13:18 Physics on this map... so weird

[@HayEnju]

"the shield battery got nerfed, but protoss players did it to themselves" -- looks at lowko and his voidray + shield battery cheese to GM

[@varoonb6593]

What would adding 2 extra supply to the nexus do to early game balance?

[@Catman_CM]

Change it, I presume

[@jehmed]

I get a warm feeling when protoss wins in a straight up game.

[@ErugoPurakushiOne]

The most gigachad protoss! 😮😮😮 Incredible games

[@MinusUpload]

They just need to up the stalkers base attack by a few points. they feel so weak for what you pay for them. The dragoons were walking photon cannons.

[@venom-gt7rc]

ShoWTimE's simcities are a thing of beauty

[@HhHg-l1f]

Love these videos! You even got my girl interested in sc2

[@icecream6256]

Lowko i want to see another 55 mutas in 1 game does dark ever do that these days ?

[@Pyriin]

Not sure if its the right place to ask this but as far as i understood High Templar spawn and dont even have energy for storm, but infestors spawn with energy for fungus thing. In case im right im wondering how come thats a thing?

[@gressorialNanites]

I'm not someone that would say protoss is not underpowered, but to be fair, you can warp in templar anywhere, but you can only morph infestors in your base.

[@ObeliskM]

templars cannot move while cloaked though@@gressorialNanites

[@HaploBartow]

@@gressorialNanites true, though Infestors can burrow and move while burrowed, and if Zerg has a Nydus or dropperlords w/ speed, they can be picked up and taken anywhere pretty quickly. I think Templar warping in w/ enough energy for a storm would be a very good balance change to test out, at the least. May turn out to be OP, but it may also be something that gives Protoss the edge they need in order to win tourneys. We'd certainly see a lot more Templar drops in mineral lines if that change were made!

[@gressorialNanites]

@@HaploBartow I think there used to be an upgrade that did that, way back at wings of liberty?

[@navins11]

What did we learn from these series? Never go full skytoss.

[@Bobucles]

PvZ always looks well matched, with both sides using every tool at their disposal. They only really hate using swarm hosts and void rays, and thats fair for the matchup. In terran games it always feels like terran is using a quarter of its real power, they can lose half their unit roster and still win games.

[@missmyf85]

The way to fix protoss being susceptable to losses early game is easy. Give them a cheap early game unit. The problem is that their units are basically double that or terran and zerg. A zealot does twice the damage but costs twice as much. So when you lose 1 unit it's actually more like you are losing 2. And as you have mentioned Lowko. You can't split those units and have 1 zergling attack/scout while 1 defends. So the solution? Just give protoss a 50 mineral early game unit that does 6 damage and builds in the same time a marine does. If the protoss want to skip that unit and play like normal, fine. If they want to play safer and use it to avoid an early game loss, that's great too.

[@sitniky]

what a comeback

[@whisk5724]

I wonder how many words per minute Reynor can type

[@arvinjancruz5175]

great game!

[@f00dify]

One scenario that Lowko for got was very Protoss favored, PvP. You can't get move protoss favored then that.

[@chrisdaignault9845]

I think Serral v anyone matches are just Serral-favoured.

[@tropicalterrarium1742]

Well he is the Michael Jordan of sc2.

[@emrahkaraca1982]

They should nerf Serral.

[@HaploBartow]

Basically anyone except Clem is guaranteed to suffer painfully at the hands of Serral.

[@_CRiT_hits_]

Man I honestly think Reynor lost because he forgot armor upgrades in the final game

[@sotothecat4576]

Please tell me im not the only one who felt like the thumbnail was a certain reference (5 dark 1 light 💀)

[@crimsonlanceman7882]

question from an amateur who only watches... But is Protoss a kinda turtly faction in the late game? I feel like their harassement tools are underwhelming. Cuz oracles, zealots, dark templars suck so much. And adepts are just used once in the early game, maybe as a semi all-in or something. But they have no place later in the game.

[@mikeserds2333]

check out maxpax games.

[@tohothewriter8002]

The match-up is Protoss favored by Zerg players because of the "double" Baneling nerf.

[@Kalahomoboy]

Good night Lowko

[@Larve12]

Somtimes it feels he is live if he is not and i never can figure it out

[@reinereue9210]

Mothership core BASE just take away some abilities

[@Falorik]

Interceptors are simply to durable, thats the whole protoss problem for zerg. They need less shield and less hp, that will totally fix protoss lategame

[@takcus]

GG!

[@Wright1331]

You talk about inflated APM all the time... why not mention EAPM, its a much more accurate number?

[@clintongriffin2077]

The thing serral does is more like a broodwar player. I see this engagement is a loss. Reynor would run away. Serral fights it out to get the value out of it when he knows he is going to lose those units anyway. Raynor runs the units away loses the value and they die too

[@Kirk.television]

Let's go!

[@WhatopiaHololiveClipper]

1st!

[@bretthoward5500]

is this no longer the world championships

[@PazCristo]

When will Reynor play Terran?

[@COD8player4life]

Take that result with a grain of salt 😂

[@ABF4269]

But... Where's ur Genshin & HSR?

[@AJ-ri7tb]

Dude I swear, time and time again I see in PvZ that protoss just needs to GOOOO. They have the army alot of the time but they just dance around. Then they finally do go and kick lurker ass but they have been beaten down all game and can't remax because they have no economy. It just seems like they just need the confidence or something I don't get it.

[@loviix08]

I can only clap my hands

[@jommsnow]

Hear me out, what if we just remove Protoss from the game? No need to buff Protoss if Protoss doesn't exist?

[@patrymaxim7603]

Hello from quebec

[@SolNacht]

6 minutes in "I guess we can call this midgame..."

[@mho...]

2min 2 comments..nice

[@lexlancelian8481]

Why are you posting only games where Raynor loses ? :D It was amazing game tho.

[@kelles5587]

"But protoss don't win against serral" Yeah even zergs are not winning against serral.

[@ser-pzdts]

well THAT i call a Zerg profit

[@maugchief]

It should be nydupodes

[@vape_monkey]

I hate proxy tempests.

[@SoloChinchilla]

!

[@JavierMartinez-oe3qk]

😶‍🌫

[@namanhnguyenhoang2695]

First to comment !

[@simaboather5360]

Showtime is need to be more agressiv i hope he is not as passav as alwas on this match ..

[@burgesj7]

Losing the adept didn't turn out as a massive problem nerd Please stop with the"mmmmkkk" Ugh

[@fernandoxavier3089]

Maybe Reynor would do better if he let Harstem play for him. He is good at telling people what to do but poor at performing by himself.

[@Zimeroy]

Protoss need cheaper and worse units for early game, make oracle and adept cheaper but slightly worse

[@Jimmyni-kk4em]

Actually the pros r quite robotic. Not smart kind. The very dumb kind. Even a kid who's smart and choose to play this game the kid woukd beat everyone of them. It's strategy game. But very few strategy r used. I hope storm gate is different

[@pierrevanniekerk9063]

Let me guess without watching. Zerg wins ?