This was much more fun to watch than standart macro game.
@natecw41645 ай бұрын
💯
@Stalazon5 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@SaeWhat215 ай бұрын
Seriously. No one wants to watch turtle terran
@celrak76675 ай бұрын
This is more mike a micro game
@LeedsPro5 ай бұрын
100% normal games can be stale
@1lomi9015 ай бұрын
I really enjoy that Boanaan realized at some point there's no chance for him to come on top so he went all in with his stuff
@hetaresgaming77715 ай бұрын
I would say that Bonaan didn't really 'realise' it so much as he knew that from the start. Bonaan is a cannon rush-only player, and he does not do any other strat. He has various variants of cannon rushes, but they are all cannon rushes. He is around Rank 50 to Rank 25 GM, and if his cannon rush fails he loses to the same level of player, so he already knows he cannot possibly defeat a pro, especially one of the best players like Clem, in a normal game.
@thenarrator1984Ай бұрын
@@hetaresgaming7771what's your highest rank??? I'm curious because I was #23 and I beat pros....I lost a lot and I even lost to Lowe ranked m1 people who've never been gm But I beat lots of pros. You said he can't. He can.
@hetaresgaming7771Ай бұрын
@@thenarrator1984 Are you talking about my highest rank, or bonaan's highest rank? I'm only diamond, but I'm not sure that's relevant.
@thenarrator1984Ай бұрын
@@hetaresgaming7771 it's very relevant you're talking about something you have zero experience with like you have loads. Literally Like a feminist saying men have it easy
@hetaresgaming7771Ай бұрын
@@thenarrator1984 Ah, I see, thank you for your input. On another subject, are you up for a few games this weekend? I'd love to get a few games with a much better player and see how my current play stands.
@SaltpeterTaffy5 ай бұрын
9:08 That micro was so clean. I love this series.
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
Trust me if there's one thing you learn cannon rushing it's how to micro your workers
@SaltpeterTaffy5 ай бұрын
@@ProbeScout versus Clem?
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
@@SaltpeterTaffy wdym?
@SaltpeterTaffy5 ай бұрын
@@ProbeScout I doubt anyone learns how to micro against Micro Jackson just from cannon rushing. You're not going to say it's easy, right?
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
@@SaltpeterTaffy I was talking about the context of workers. There's certainly things to be said, but in general cannon rushing you learn more micro techniques than most other people do, like most of the people I trust to say adept shade dodge mines are cannon rushers, over many pros, and there are some specific micro stuff many I know practice with. I think many cannon rushers likely have less practice with large scale battle micro.
@ThueJanusKristensen5 ай бұрын
@lowko you shouldn't be surprised that boanaan cannon rushes. Boanaan apparently cannon rushes in literally every single game. Which makes #69 placement even more impressive - the games he won to get #69 were win against opponents who KNEW that they would get cannon rushed, but lost anyway.
@silmarpinheiro3455Ай бұрын
Absolute madman.
@ErenisRanitos5 ай бұрын
Clem getting cannon rushed 3 times: That expression... Am I perspiring?... No. It's just the rain. This fool could never make me sweat.
@lowqualitymichrophone5 ай бұрын
Don t bring Obito into this
@carrier24565 ай бұрын
I relate to the Obito reference
@lowqualitymichrophone5 ай бұрын
@@carrier2456 he stole my man quotes without even mentioning his name
@mumblety965 ай бұрын
Please cast more of this dude.
@override835 ай бұрын
That entire first 7 and a half minutes I was smiling and lol irl. That was great. I have the utmost respect for Clem, Serral and all the higher echelon SC players, but this was refreshing and fun to watch.
@f00dify5 ай бұрын
I don't blame Boanaan for going for cheese all three games, he probably knows he can't beat Clem in a straight up macro game.
@Jacksonvillian904Ай бұрын
Does that have more to do with Terran being the better class than skill or what
@f00difyАй бұрын
@@Jacksonvillian904 no, I think it’s more of a difference in player skill than the skill of the race.
@Jacksonvillian904Ай бұрын
@@f00dify is that why Protoss doesn’t win tournaments is that the best players don’t play it or that the other classes are just better
@alejandrobarrio8731Ай бұрын
@@Jacksonvillian904 both things maybe. The only objectively demonstrable is the second.
@Candle455 ай бұрын
Damn that cannon rush was crazy
@bladgier5 ай бұрын
The fact that Clem, even if he took the whole series in the end, seeing him drop a map and even after a win eventually but to struggle so hard against (no offence) a random guy from ladder opening 3 times in a row with a cannon rush.... That is so awesome to see. That is not because of the "cheese trigger" but simply how bad cheeses are within the top level of play and they simply do not work (almost always). Well done boanaan. Hope too se you make a name for yourself with your own style. Make no mistake, he could be just playing a warm up game because he is The Clem but I can see potential. Good luck and have fun!
@davidburton96904 ай бұрын
I loved watching boanaan build and cancel and rebuild just to block the SCVs. It might not be efficient, but that looked so smooth.
@SednaCS5 ай бұрын
I am simple minded. I see cannon rush, i click.
@Justbleed4345 ай бұрын
I remember Harstem feeling helpless against to this same cannon rusher. He lost like two or three consecutive games from the same strategy from Boanaan.
@justinspriggs29795 ай бұрын
when you know youre outclassed just have fun
@OniFeez5 ай бұрын
I don't really know why people think of it as 'cheese', it's as valid a tactic as anything else imo. If anything why get bogged down in an uncertain attritional war when you could finish it quickly. It was a pleasure to watch Boanaan play, I think arguably his biggest mistakes were: a) Either not cutting his loses and 'running' or b) why put your infrastructure in the one area where your opponent has to counter-attack in order to break out? Like that fleet beacon; cos his pants were down after that. I love how he was eco-ing behind his crazy 'all-in's'.
@all0utmetal7353 ай бұрын
Yea I don’t get the whole “cheese” thing either. A win is a win no matter how you get it. It’s all equal to me.
@carlweiskott76233 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this as much as the next guy. The term cheese is rather vague. In sports like football there are trick plays that would only work if the opponent wasn't paying attention. You definitely wouldn't repeat those plays 3 times in a row
@magni56482 ай бұрын
"Cheese" means a high-risk, effectively all-in strat that absolutely should not work and relies entirely on your opponent bungling up their response.
@Markfr0mCanada5 ай бұрын
I love watching Boanaan videos on Pig's channel but I never expected to see this fantastic smooth brain genius on Lowko's channel! Let's Gooooooooo!
@Seagull5125 ай бұрын
you may not like it, but this is what peak Protoss performance looks like
@Seto00195 ай бұрын
The fact that boanaan stuck to his only gun, the cannon was obvious. He himself knew, that he could never beat Clem normally. I love this guy
@brahmdorst51545 ай бұрын
Fun to watch! In the last game if Boanan had kept Tempests at the proxy, and started building up stalker count in preparation for the counterattack a bit sooner, and put the stasis ward as a fall back for stalkers instead of out in its own, he could have had a two base to one advantage and lost to Clem much more slowly.
@rogue-null5 ай бұрын
I think boanaan had a decent shot in game 2 if they’d expanded instead of going for double proxy gate at the end there. I mean you’re still trying to beat Clem, which is going to be a hell of a challenge, but I think it would’ve been better to just expand instead of sending another probe across to spend more resources on the other side of the map.
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
Yeah, most likely that would have been the better option. Really the problem was earlier when boanaan wasn't committing to overwhelming the bunker in range or using cannons to outrange, and that caused a lot of trouble. Personally, I think using range on the bunker would have been the better call there, and his tech just got delayed
@hetaresgaming77715 ай бұрын
Bonaan is an only-cannon rush player. He has invested heavily into the art of cannon rushing, and if the cannon rush fails he might as well give up because he's never beating another player on his level in a macro game, lest of all Clem.
@stefan.tarara5 ай бұрын
Didn’t watch SC2 for around 1 and a half years and so happy to see that we are at the same spot as then - almighty VoidRay/Tempest-Rush ❤
@KKDT5 ай бұрын
"He is now rank 69, which is pretty NICE!" :)
@GenJuhru5 ай бұрын
_,Noice_
@velvetthundr5 ай бұрын
this was the most exciting recent game I've seen. You need more of our underdog
@Kitxunei5 ай бұрын
That was so unexpected haha. Can't believe Boanan tried that in a tournament.
@blade24533 ай бұрын
This series screamed “I may not win, but I’m dragging you down with me” energy. Boanaan really gave Clem a run for his money 😂
@faine2625 ай бұрын
You can just feel the moment when "playtimes over" hits lol
@DekayVods5 ай бұрын
LOVED these first two matches, I really hope clem wins game 2 somehow so I can watch boanaan do it again.
@NaegraGHQ2 ай бұрын
So funny to read so many people complaining about cheese and c-rush in particular. It is part of the game. There is no rule that states in which way to win a game. Game starts and each player choose a strategy that fits for them. Being able to adapt while the game goes on is the trick imo. If there is a pooler, c-rusher or proxy-user whp is able to squeeze the maximum out of this style, well then they deserve it. Well defended by Clem indeed on the other hand. Fun series to watch.
@KevYuu3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great casting of this game !
@inspectorbuttons5 ай бұрын
That was really fun to watch.
@Markfr0mCanada5 ай бұрын
Now MaxPax is going to do it to him just to give him flash backs :)
@urazoktay79402 ай бұрын
Amazing video, it was so fun to watch, i root for Clem, glad he overcame these Protoss rushes! I thoroughly enjoyed the video, thank you Lowko! :D
@bricelory95345 ай бұрын
This is a breath of fresh air in such established Terran lategames. I enjoy the kassive macro fights but especially when they're not the standard. Love the spice
@markhaseley330428 күн бұрын
Proud Daddy of the Cannon rush on several variations as CmdrDarcon. Glad to see it's still relevant.
@Back2BaseX5 ай бұрын
For everyone else who missed it… HELLO EVERYONE, My name is LOWKO!
@WeItenspinner5 ай бұрын
The EVERYONE after HELLO is missing. :(
@Back2BaseX5 ай бұрын
@@WeItenspinner good point. Edited. 😁
@frmrb0y5 ай бұрын
My eye twitched when he didn’t say it.
@danielbedrossian59865 ай бұрын
In the last years he prettimuch never does the full intro...
@AresBroken-h7w5 ай бұрын
Love the great content man! Keep it up!
@normandead5 ай бұрын
Boanaan has great micro sometime, like when he escaped his probe by cancelling 3 buildings, but quite poor at other times. He did not harass as much as he could and lost some of his units without mooving them. I'm sure he can improve his cheeses again !
@michaelrosenbaum48223 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me the scv patrol at the start of the cannon rush? (instead of say attacking the warping in buildings?)
@1KamaronConClase5 ай бұрын
Cannon rush in the ladder: not fun. Cannon rush in pro play: super fun 😂
@Bruh123_323 ай бұрын
What a Nice car clutch at 13:03
@Mikivericks5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Appreciate the excellent content as always. ❤
@funtomata5 ай бұрын
why is clem pulling two SCV's off the mineral line and just putting them on patrol. Is it solely to prevent the probe from warping in a structure?
@georgehuestis35305 ай бұрын
"Can I beat this man in a fair fight? No? Well then, let's throw some bloody dice."
@MonoBrawI5 ай бұрын
Looks like Harstem's training has been rubbing off on Boanaan :)
@Reegareth5 ай бұрын
first cheese was great but only worked because Clem just genuinely didn't expect that level of commitment. After he realized just how committed he was to it, it wasn't that hard to shut down for someone of his level of skill.
@glados47655 ай бұрын
Boanaan just got out of sewer mermaid school and decided to go all in on cannon rushing over and over.
@hitlord5 ай бұрын
When I saw the title, and knowing Clem plays MaxPax all the time, I immediatelly though MaxPax had decided to play a match for fun with the guy.
@Frank-fh2qn5 ай бұрын
Pls cast Thermy vs Serral Maxpax and Clem, and tell us if a couple is a group of two or a group of three.
@haileydee99545 ай бұрын
You should look up Harstem's games where boanan coaches him how to cannon rush
@ROHIRIMSK5 ай бұрын
You did manage to get a cannon rush! Good job :3
@ZirJo5 ай бұрын
Kudos to Boanaan for trying this! Well done hahaha
@Gitalien15 ай бұрын
Between MaxPax and Florencio 😂
@romanvernik19682 ай бұрын
My gosh the title is so good I started watching it even though I’ve already watched it before🤦♂️
@gcl27835 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the commentary.
@user-cp6xi9io4y5 ай бұрын
I have to ask, did you increase the brightness on this one? , not a complain, just curious.
@EchoSoldi3r5 ай бұрын
ALL HAIL BOANAAN
@natecw41645 ай бұрын
That's no cannon rush, it's a battle station 😂
@MoheCheyenne-n1h5 ай бұрын
The content is very interesting. It's just amazing
@jamesalphonse10995 ай бұрын
I feel like the rushed would have worked better if the tech buildings were just built back in the main away from trouble and if the cannons and shield batteries were just built away from the ramps so they can't be sniped from high ground. You can block your opponent in that way and force them to build up an army then attack and you can expand behind it in the mean time.
@DekayVods5 ай бұрын
what a treat to watch this today.
@BillPark-ey6ih2 ай бұрын
14:35 that micro is not from earth
@JuanGonzalez-kp1euАй бұрын
"ok theres no way this guy gonna cannon rush me a third time"
@andrewreed52224 ай бұрын
Lowko can't let his favorite player get shitted on. So he makes this the "best series" in this tournament. But I think the best player getting shitted on MAJORLY in grand finals. Is the best thing ever. GG Seral
@destonwong25772 ай бұрын
Almost all players can't beat CLEM in a long game, so they just have to squeeze the advantage early. At least they are truly playing a strategy game, maximise your own advantage and minimise opponent's edge.
@burdy19905 ай бұрын
The first ten minutes I was only saying “wow wow wow “
@danc61675 ай бұрын
Smooth brained Boanan showing some big boy brain wrinkles
@yamilabugattas38955 ай бұрын
Maybe Her0 can incorporate a few cannon rushes like this to his style, just to see it every once in a while executed by a top player.
@etistyle965 ай бұрын
clem :"really... ?" boanaan :"nah....x)"
@arvinjancruz51755 ай бұрын
great series!
@FlyingDominion4 ай бұрын
2:25 I see someone practiced in Starcraft Master.
@kittyflier83385 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a nexus on the natural for the super battery
@eddiekalista32225 ай бұрын
I was kinda wondering what would happen if protoss started their expansion base where the rush is staged, or much closer. There's an undiscovered element to make this cheese a real strategy.
@hivetech49035 ай бұрын
@@eddiekalista3222 Nah its been tried a million times - it only works at low level play. Proxy Nexus is so expensive that it delays units by a huge amount, pretty much ending the cheese. A better way is making a Nexus as the first proxy building in the opponents main, then probes and zeolots are recalled to it. Unfortunately its countered by a bunker next to the CC, also doesn't work at high level.
@kittyflier83385 ай бұрын
@@hivetech4903 But Bonaan expanded behind in all three games. Since he is to build a Nexus anyways, why not proxy it so super batteries can be an option? His play style is all-in anyway, too committed that it's virtually impossible to back to a normal game and eventually win after his opponent cleared all his proxy buildings.
@kittyflier83385 ай бұрын
@@eddiekalista3222 uThermal tried it once and won the game by this way. So I can't help wondering if it can be used in higher levels.
@hivetech49035 ай бұрын
@@kittyflier8338 Its still the delay. On most maps like Game 1 for example there's no space to build a proxy Nexus as well as all the support structures - unless you don't build as much production / defense until later which means instant gg before the Nexus is up. Game 2 he didn't expand & failed early. Game 3 he has enough space but there are still problems: he couldn't mine from it meaning marginally less production. Also it would mean he is committing less to the cheese if he is spending energy on Overcharge, which only lasts 14 seconds & the Terran can just back off from it, as opposed to spending energy on chrono to get more units faster. Ultimately if it worked it would've been done, at this level these guys practice strategies 12 hours a day.
@alexk.72505 ай бұрын
Lowko is casting this game..
@hiddentruth19825 ай бұрын
I've never had protos cheese. We don't have any of those fancy cheeses where I live. I bet it's got a nutty flavor.
@d3fepona5 ай бұрын
Screeches in toss, if only parting or sos did this hahaha.
@MrChocobo125 ай бұрын
After all these match vs Cripseil , i tough it was impossible for Clem to loose a match like this
@zeratulisthegoat5 ай бұрын
I was so tired when I watched this, the Nextus for the pylon next to the nexus made me laugh really hard
@JacksonSeiterАй бұрын
Boanaan took me out of a tournament with his cannon rushes, I won 1 and lost 2, it makes me feel amazing that Clem even lost a single match to him
@CubicIronPyrite5 ай бұрын
Level 69...did we expect boanaan to be anything but a slayer?
@igit_72963 ай бұрын
Clem can make the claim of being the best foreign Terran he looks good.
@juztina73465 ай бұрын
why game 2 protoss cancel the initial gateway???!
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
When you go for the bunker, you have to go all in for it. Really I think Boanaan actually had a very middle of the ways bunker response which put him behind
@greatnditАй бұрын
i watch this after watch clem crush serral 5-0
@nriAzt3c5 ай бұрын
I cant tell if Tempests are a shit unit with very limited use cases or if the Viking is OP.
@riccardolaudi62925 ай бұрын
More likely the first one
@ObeliskM5 ай бұрын
Both.
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
They're just really bad, can only work with the cannons and batteries, even still it's in unfavored match up for the tempest. The only thing you can really do is keep the distance and use vision to pick off
@hivetech49035 ай бұрын
I've never hear anyone higher than Platinum league scrub saying Vikings are OP 😂
@nriAzt3c5 ай бұрын
@@hivetech4903 That still stands; I dont play StarCraft. I have watched competitive gaming since 480p. I am an analyst and have a propensity in picking up patterns. I have watched enough StarCraft in the last 20+ years to recognize a potential balance contention point. There is an argument for the Viking in PvT considering most Protoss units are mechanical. Few Protoss low and mid tier units are incapable of shooting up. And the "siege mode" of vikings allow it to be a ground and and Air unit, attack ground and air units. AND be picked up by a Medivac. They can be produced quickly and en masse and 2 at a time from a single structure. Despite this, I did offer the suggestion that Tempests are severely underpowered and/ or have utility issues. Im not sure if you intentionally missed that, or if youre just one of those keyboard warriors.
@christophermccutcheon2143Ай бұрын
That first game cannon rush was great, but I was screaming at the screen for him to chip the Orbital when he was dancing back and forth with the front of the Terran base cleared. He could have just dipped in and sucked up some siege tank shots and kept chipping at that nexus while retreating briefly to the Shield Battery, then either he will eventually set the nexus on fire and the Terran has to panic, or he has to pull SCVs off the mineral line to repair it, and the repair thing is still a really good outcome cos that's at least 1 of his few miners remaining not generating resources, and is instead actually burning some of what little the Terran had coming in at that moment. Is this a bad take? I felt like he could have ended the game like 3/4 minutes sooner if he'd prioritized the Orbital in this moment. If it was forced to take off, that was the Terran economy totally fucking dead
@technodrone3135 ай бұрын
at least in wood league just assume they will be terran and cannon rush to psi storms is just hella effective.
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
incidentally storm is good against about everything that is good against tempests. Then again, just about everything is good against tempests
@technodrone3135 ай бұрын
@@ProbeScout psi storm is a hell of a drug
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
@technodrone313 thank goodness we don't have 160 damage psistorms anymore
@MarlotteTR5 ай бұрын
Wait a minute If sky protoss is skytoss... cheese protoss should be... ... cheetoss 🤯
@nikolayii93735 ай бұрын
King Cobra style😂
@Sommerk915 ай бұрын
That was fun to watch 😂
@Rodrigo-vw8fy5 ай бұрын
I do not get why clem did not put a bunker from the beginning in game 1, that stops every cannon rush
@patrikhala19105 ай бұрын
So should I expect some C-rushes in the forthcoming multilayer games, just in case? 😅
@joshuacoleman62454 ай бұрын
ty
@MartinAabergeАй бұрын
One of the most disrespectful series I have seen. BUT, you have to be able to handle any scenario to stay on top. Very entertaining
@aliceborg254Ай бұрын
Change your profile pic. Looking pretty gay.
@FalconBeetle5 ай бұрын
Let's go another lowko video!
@abdelkarimdebbah95123 ай бұрын
Seeing cannon rush fail is always so satisfying
@kindredlebel91755 ай бұрын
That was awesome.
@LitheInLitotes5 ай бұрын
Boannon.... anon,... You will be called BOANNON
@LitheInLitotes3 ай бұрын
YES!
@dylanschulz91185 ай бұрын
I like the choice from boanaan to go cheese, it's probably legit the best chance he has against clem
@hetaresgaming77715 ай бұрын
This wasn't a choice to cheese against clem; bonaan literally doesn't play anything else. He is one of the handful of only-cannon rush players on the ladder. I think he might be the best of them at the moment, he ranges around rank 50 to rank 20ish.
@hydraulichydra83635 ай бұрын
What if it turns out that the actually best way to play _is_ to just cannon rush and that becomes standard?
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
Not vs Terran, for a lot of reasons. On some maps could be an ok thing to really put your opponent off guard, especially with pros being unpracticed vs cannon rush in my experience. Honestly I prefer cannon rushing a pro- toss player rather than a high GM NA toss
@hydraulichydra83635 ай бұрын
@@ProbeScout Dude 100%. We kind of deserve it - our worst cheese works best on eachother lol.
@hivetech49035 ай бұрын
What do you mean "what if it turns out"? These guys play 12 hours a day for years so they can win money lol, you really think that wouldn't be the standard by now if that was plausible?
@ProbeScout5 ай бұрын
@hivetech4903 any cannon rusher will tell you as much, particularly when talking about Terran
@NotBot-4203 ай бұрын
I used to love this stuff before LotV. They just have way too many minerals, you see it coming, you know they are doing it and there is still not much you can do.
@눈누난나-o5r5 ай бұрын
Great game to be seen!!!!
@smackinmatt4 ай бұрын
This reminded me of the boxer 3x bunker rush on yellow, except it worked all 3 times for Boxer. Sadly, I'm probably too old for most to even get this comment tho lol.
@Alkamatus2 ай бұрын
Cannon cheese is so easy to counter, especially as Terran. I feel like it only makes sense PvP at this point.