Lowrance HDS Pro - A Blue Button & Modules, Modules, Modules

[@InDepthSonar]

FYI 23:28 the green glitching is due to a frame rate issue with editing software. The video provided by Lowrance was at 12 FPS. Even at 15 FPS output on the editor, I couldn't get rid of it. IT'S NOT AN AT2 ISSUE :)

[@DaleWyman]

Great informative video! As a Navico Pro-Staff Team Member, I totally agree that “EXPERIENCED” Lowrance users who buy an HDSPRO will not spend the additional money on the S3100. One thing I don’t hear much about is al, the additional weight being added to trolling motor shafts. Most anglers now have an independent turret system to allow the use of Anchor Lock. I already see the additional weight of turrets and extra transducers causing the GHOST to deploy faster than originally designed. Hopefully Lowrance will design a heavy duty gas shock for the GHOST. The additional memory in the HDSPRO is a PLUS! The microprocessor is actually the same as the HDSLIVE UNITS. I am THRILLED to see a 10 inch MFD in the Lineup! Two separate Active Target Transducers and S3100 “may” be a tough sell for the “average” user.

[@InDepthSonar]

Very true!! And even just think of both those transducers up there when you're running down the lake at 70mph and something goes wrong. 😲

[@toms4123]

Great information which finally cleared up some questions I had about adding the Fishreveal to the HDS Pro

[@jankloster]

Hi, great video. As i understand the GO9 can be mirrored to a iPhone. Does the NSX ore the Lowrance HDS pro have the same function? Ore at least import/exsport routes and waypoints.

[@soobz]

Surprised how badly Lowrance screwed up in trying to catch up to Garmin. Why would I pay considerably more for a product that still is not as good? The dual activetarget is a niche market at best as it's a very expensive setup. The really weird thing is needing a S3100 to get fish reveal sidescan on the Pro, though it looks to be of far less value than downscan fish reveal. At least they finally got into megahertz sidescan - at a high cost. Great review.

[@InDepthSonar]

Dual live sonar units are becoming more popular so my guess is Lawrence. Wanted to jump on that but you're right at the cost of everything involved. It just doesn't make sense. Especially the s3100 required on the brand new top of the line unit to give you a new feature. That feature should have been built in to HDS Pro. No question

[@normalman23]

what does garmin have that beats this? just pure curiosity i dont know much about fishfinders

[@soobz]

@@normalman23 See video at 2:40. Additionally, Garmin's live transducers keep getting better and better and Lowrance has barely caught up to Garmin's previous generation, but at a higher price. I like Lowrance, I just wish they'd stop aiming to be adequate instead of great, and making stupid business decisions like needing the S3100 on a brand new model to provide what should be an already included feature.

[@ajsettle7411]

If I buy a hds pro could I Ethernet it to my Hds carbons ?

[@glenndaugherity6187]

With a “Ping” issue when running a 2in1 can you just stop sonar on the 2d screen then go into your side scan/downs can pages to get around the ping issue ?

[@ChrisBeardsley]

21:10 you mention a video about Garmin that you did... link to that specific video? Earning that InDepth name, great video I think I'll need to watch a few times to absorb some of it.

[@InDepthSonar]

I may have forgot to add that card. I'll put it in and throw it in the description as well shortly

[@rthsu]

First analysis of the new products on the Internet. Great job! Any insight on the availability dates of the products? Thanks!

[@InDepthSonar]

Looks like late January - February 2023 for most items. AIHD transducers may be sooner

[@alexz1158]

I have an active imaging 3 in 1 at the console will the hds pro work with it

[@henrypauling6641]

I have two Lowrance HDS LIVE with 1ea S 3100 module, 1ea HD 3-in-1 (HW) Transducer @ Transom and 1ea HD 3-in-1 Ghost Nose Cone Transducer on Trolling Motor. My (?) Do I need two S 3100 or the one is good for 360 @ Bow and Side Scan @ Console.

[@SmFish67rus]

У меня есть 12 PRO и датчик 3-in-1FR HW. Мне нужно купить S3100 для работы Fish Reveal? Или без s3100 функция FR будет работать на моём 12 PRO ?

[@Crappie_Hunter_Seeker]

Question: The new HD Pro 16 inch unit is around $5000. I see that BassPro has a HD LIVE unit that says it includes Active Imaging for $4199 (could this be correct that Active Imaging is included. I am assuming Active Imaging is built in and you would not need the S3100 for this Live unit? I don't want the extra box in the boat..... If all of this is true, I think it would be a good choice for me as I really don't need the overlay feature and really don't care about the fish reveal feature for side scan. What do you think? UPDATE: I see the Live unit has Active Imaging but only has support for "HD Active Imaging". Think I just answered my question. I see the difference now. Thank you.

[@HawgSnatchin]

If I get a Pro for the bow with AT2 is it still linkable with my 2 gen3 touch 9s for mapping/waypoints?

[@thede3tecto]

Very surprised at the cost vs what you get for that cost! I am a die hard Lowrance guy so I will continue to stick with Lowrance even though.....

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes it is a lot. You have to remember though when comparing Lowrance to other brands is that the HDS Pro is the high end. A lot of people (me included in this video) compare the price of the lower end models from other manufacturers like Garmin's echomap or Hummibird's Helix units. Garmin you have to compare the GPSMAP 8600 units to the HDS Pro and Humminbird the Solix or Apex

[@vaskasooo9469]

Can I use active target and active target 2 for the 180 view?

[@kennethsturdivant6064]

What is the coverage on AT2 in DOWN MODE at 30 feet deep?

[@Michagan_outdoorsman_James]

i just got the HDS live 7 for my kayak and i think that lowrance should keep there 9 and 7" series and tailor it more towards the kayak/small boat angler possibly even the ice fisherman that still wants that "top of the line" equipment or the "latest and greatest". i get it there probably not flying off the shelf but just a thought. i know if i had a bass boat and funds allowed it id go straight for a 12"

[@nicolasrodriguez4350]

Hi i have an hds 9 carbon on my kayak, and i been looking into upgrading to a hds pro but from what im getting in your video is that i can do about as muchas the pro with my carbon by just buying the 3100 module and transducer? So instead of spending 3500 for a hds 12 pro i can just spend 1500 on the 3100 module and transducer?

[@CMmuskie]

One thing you did not mention was the delay problem that active target one had. Was this addressed?

[@InDepthSonar]

I have the AT2 and HDS10 Pro on order so I'll see when I get it. Certainly was a delay with my AT and HDS9 when compared to a Livescope

[@Psykout]

I have been debating on the module when I get my HDS Pro 16 because I also muskie fish hard in the fall. Use sidescan a lot, plus on fish that large the sonar return would be really strong so they'd show up well on a follow. For bass fishing don't see it as useful.

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes for Musky (or other large fish) I think the SS FR would be worth it. Bass or Walleye I couldn't justify the cost vs return

[@jamesmacdonald907]

I currently own HDS 3 units and have been interested in upgrading. In your opinion, should I just upgrade to the live system which is seriously discounted or go with the pro system for recreational bass fishing.

[@InDepthSonar]

Live units are hard to beat at the price they are now and can do most things the Pro can. So at this point I think Live is the way to go

[@BrolyPT]

Hii... i want to buy a AT 2 and the fishfinder. In your opinion should i buy the At2 + hds live 16 or HDs Pro 12 ? Or go to the garmin lvs34 ? Best regards

[@InDepthSonar]

I would go AT2 with the HDS Live 16 over the HDS 12 Pro. However the LVS34 is probably still going to be the best. In which case I would get GPSMAP 8600 series unit

[@markanthony3995]

Do you do electronics installation, setup and classes ? If so how can I contact you? Thank you.

[@darcdiego14]

If you are running the frist gen Acvite Target, Do you have to fully upgrade both transducer and black box or well we just be able to upgrade the transducer and a software update?

[@InDepthSonar]

Both module and Transducer need to be AT2

[@forest_357]

asking the same question

[@Mark-dj5qf]

Why are is Lowrance selling the AT2 transducer only and the AT2 module only if you have to have both?

[@InDepthSonar]

They all do it. It's for people who may have 2 boats, damage one, use it for ice fishing, etc

[@fredwalters389]

If you want active target 2, does the HDS pro still require the active target 2 module or does the active target 2 xducer connect directly to the HDS pro? If you still need the module for the HDS pro, wouldn't you be better off buying a used carbon or even a new closeout HDS live if you just want active target 2?

[@InDepthSonar]

If you only plan to use 1 AT then yes you'd be better off with a Live or Carbon. But if you want to use the dual setup you'll need the Pro. Yes you'll need the AT module regardless of the unit you get.

[@eduardorumbos6101]

Will active imaging 3-1 hd work on a hds live without the s3100? Not looking for fish reveal or active target just a higher def in the side scan. Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

No it will not. You'll need the S3100

[@sergeyzaslon8647]

Hello! Thanks for a great job! At 11:44 you talked about support AIHD by HDS Carbon with module s3100, could you give a link to the official specification of the module s3100 with this information?

[@InDepthSonar]

Lowrance has changed that. The info the video was based on was the Product Announcement... Then after it went live on their website they removed the Carbon as a supported unit.

[@spintowinstradic6067]

So if I already have HDS Live units at the bow and console, and a Ghost T/M, and I just want the improved sidescan and downscan, I just need (1) the new Ghost nosecone transducer, and (2) the new ActiveImaging HD 3-in-1 transducer for the transom? Thanks!

[@InDepthSonar]

And probably two s3100 modules. One for the AI HD at the back and the second for ghost hd nose cone

[@flippenstick1]

Will I see any noticeable difference upgrading to the Active Target 2 transducer on a 12 Carbon and keeping the original box?

[@InDepthSonar]

I'm pretty sure you'll need to upgrade to the full AT2 system. I don't believe AT1 transducer will work on the AT2 box

[@jamesshelton2125]

Has Lowrance added any way to do depth offsets to lakes with new pro modal? Some of the lakes we fish have 30+ foot drops in winter.

[@InDepthSonar]

Haven't seen this software yet for them so I'm not sure but I agree that would be something they need to add

[@stevechowsky1903]

If a person buys a HDS pro, do you still need a s3100 for a AIHD on my live units or does the pro transfer the AIHD to the other units without it? Not looking for fish reveal. Thanks for your video.

[@kalaportaal]

I'm also interested in this, perhaps someone can answer? Thanks.

[@glenndaugherity6187]

If you don’t want fish reveal then no the AIHD will hook right up to the HDS PRO. I’ve been told this by my Lowrance pro. If you have a HDS Live then you’ll need the module for the AIHD. Hope that helps. 👍

[@stevechowsky1903]

I bought the HDS pro 10. I hooked up the AIHD transducer to my pro unit, connected to the pro unit to my live units with the Ethernet. The AIHD works on all the live units after I did the updates. Fish reveal does not work as I do not have the s3100.

[@johngenoni1927]

If you put a hds pro connected via Ethernet to hds live can you share off the pro onto the live units screen

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes

[@lucricher8023]

So I have a 16 Live at the bow and a 12 live at the console with the ghost and A/T 1, from what I can see all I need is the S3100, the A/T 2 and a new transducer correct? And if I want to change to the Pro's I still need A/T 2, a new transducer and the S3100 so why change to the Pro system then?

[@InDepthSonar]

I guess it depends what you want to do. If you want to use the dual AT system you're gonna need 2 new AT2 systems. If you want AIHD then you'll need the S3100 and the AIHD transducer

[@DinoBajlo-jc4mv]

Is there any difference between CPU and the screen? (LIVE/PRO), and is there any better changes between regular sonar? I usualy fishing in deeper sea, 50-150m(100m=300f) and use Airmar ss175m(1KW) transducer, and I am werry interesting is there any better changes between live and pro for my style! TNX and tnx for great rewiew!

[@InDepthSonar]

I tried to find out from the top guys at Lowrance but they would answer me. The HDS Live 7 and 9 shared the same processor while the 12 and 16 Live had an upgraded quad-core processor. It will be interesting to see what they have in the Pro units and if the larger ones get a better processor

[@chrismulhollen5135]

Will it be available for the NSS Evo3S ?

[@InDepthSonar]

Haven't heard yet. Sure hope so but nobody at Navico had been able to answer that for me

[@bryankaylor2225]

If I buy an Elite FS unit with the 3 in 1 transducer and have no intentions of upgrading to live sonar...without the S3100 module, do I still get active imagining down and siding imaging?

[@InDepthSonar]

Yes you will get that without the module

[@bryankaylor2225]

@InDepth Sonar would you get a 7" hds with 3 in one or a 9" Elite fs with same transducer? Guess my question is....would you prefer the smaller better screen or larger screen?

[@InDepthSonar]

That's a tough one because your talking a higher end unit with a smaller screen VS a mid teir unit with a larger screen. I think I'd that case is go Elite FS because it can do just about everything the HDS can but has lower resolution and might be slightly slower if you're networking with it

[@bryankaylor2225]

@InDepth Sonar this would be going on a 10ft 6in kayak. Networking is not an issue. Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it

[@CHOOhonets]

Great job, thanks for the video!

[@InDepthSonar]

Thank you!!

[@bryhan67]

Does anyone now if or how to connect a mouse to the lowrance unit? IT would be great to click a WPT and either delete or move it, the same way a mouse works on a computer. Also is there anyway to delete by region, simular to export by region. I have so many WPTs would be great if there was ways to manage them better.

[@bassngal3314]

Did lowrance update their maps so they now have depth range shading like lakemaster does on humminbird?

[@InDepthSonar]

I believe you can if you have CMAP charts, but typically see map charts are not that accurate, so kind of no point. I do not believe you can do this with navionics on the new Lowrance. However, I have not seen the new HDS Pro so maybe we'll have software with that to do it

[@junkmail428]

Ok....I just bought a HDS12 live with no transducer..I am totally ignorant with this stuff...just bought my First real boat in 30 years...came with a helix 7 without network.. if I want to have active target 2 on my bow how do I need the s3100...or can I use the black box from active target 1 buy a active target 2 transducer and be upgraded from Active target 1 or do I need a new Active target 2 box as well.. Once I get bow set up I will put a Hds12 on the console with a 3in1 transducer

[@willesthlm]

As i get it you need the s3100 and the AT2 for the Live12. So, you can't just "software upgrade" the black box you use with AT2.

[@InDepthSonar]

In your case, you will need the full AT2 system for the improved clarity on live sonar. Then you will need the s3100 and AIHD transducer if you want chirp and mega on side and down scan.

[@darylquenet9957]

What is the frequency of the standard sonar on the new 3 in 1?

[@InDepthSonar]

83/200kHz

[@brunomerlini4248]

If i buy a Hds pro with the new 3 in 1 transducer and connect the pro unit with a fs9 unit via ethernet cable will the fs9 have the HD side scan? Or do i still need the s3100 module between them? Cheers

[@InDepthSonar]

I haven't been able to confirm that but my suspicion would be the HDS Pro would act as the S3100 and through ethernet send the AIHD to your Elite FS and provide the HD side scan

[@brunomerlini4248]

@@InDepthSonar thats what i thought, ill confirm with lowrance support. Thanks

[@InDepthSonar]

Let me know here what you've found out

[@typowell9142]

Great video very informative Really like the new HD transducer images don't think sidescan FR is for me Very disappointing that you can't use AT1 with the AT2 for the new views and need 2 complete systems was really looking forward to getting the forward/scout split screen

[@InDepthSonar]

It sure would have been nice if we could use AT1.

[@lesforrestfishing]

Will you be able to view split screen AT views and mapping concurrently (3 windows)?

[@InDepthSonar]

I haven't seen the software yet but I would imagine so.

[@lesforrestfishing]

@@InDepthSonar thank you sir

[@AliakseiYudzenkou]

Интересно, но вряд-ли я себе такое приобрету.

[@kobo8430]

В рамках данного видео вообще не интересно, собираетесь ли вы это приобретать🤷‍♂️

[@kizzjd9578]

This is cool but garmin is still king. Especially with the gt 51 low frequency.

[@jaywagner13]

Thank goodness I switched to Garmin 2yrs ago. Leave it to lowrance to complicate things even more than they already are. 5 different HD transducers. Lol. What a joke. U can buy 3 - 10in garmins with transducers for 3k. 3k will get u 1 hds pro 10in. Crazy

[@InDepthSonar]

But the 3 echomap units you buy are not the same a the HDS Pro. You need to buy 3 GPSMAP 8610s to be a fair comparison. And Lowrance didn't really over complicate it...they provided different options for different ways people fish like the original comment mentioned. Garmin has the GT36, GT56, GT56 nose cone and the GT51.

[@kizzjd9578]

@@InDepthSonar lowrance still doesn’t have the settings available to fine tune side/down scan and 2d sonar. Garmin and raymarine I know for a fact, does have those options.

[@InDepthSonar]

What options are you referring to on the 2D adjustments?

[@jaywagner13]

@InDepth Sonar Sorry, I disagree. The 106sv is just as good as the HDS Pro, and u can get it at 1/3rd the price. U could buy 1-10in hds pro, or u could outfit ur entire boat with 3- 10in 106sv. It's not even a close comparison. Put 2 on console and 1 on the bow. Or put 1 on consol and 2 up front and use one for livescope. It's a no-brainer imo. And fish reveal is a marketing scam. I had it on my lowrance gen 3s and immediately switched it off. All it does is clutter ur screen. I've never met an angler that used it or liked it. And now u gotta pay extra for a module that allows u to use it? Waste of money imo. Also, as a bass angler, it seems like FFS is gonna be the future and u already admitted that Garmin is king of FFS. Why not jump now and get with the company that's gonna lead the way in that category. Didn't lowrance have to buy technology off of Garmin for its FFS? Which buy the way angered a bunch of loyal Lowrance customers because their gen 1 FFS was complete garbage.

[@mrztou]

great video!!!

[@InDepthSonar]

Thank you!!

[@rickwalter9509]

Thanks very informative video

[@InDepthSonar]

Thanks for watching and glad it helped

[@willesthlm]

I guess the prices in Sweden will be almost the double than in the US. I must get myself a friend in US that can buy it in US and ship it over :)

[@InDepthSonar]

Just be aware, any unit you buy in USA or Canada are programmed only to work within those countries. As soon as you take it to Europe, the GPS will not work and you'll have to buy an unlock code from Lowrance which I believe are around 500 USD

[@sps244]

Bs

[@Alexey_Karzin]

Что у него делает карта Рыбинки на заднем плане?))))

[@InDepthSonar]

я не говорю на этом языке

[@JoshB-Fishin]

Great video, I just wish that your voice was picked up better. Listening on headphones or my phone it’s difficult to hear what you’re saying.

[@sunrise7ranch85]

I’m getting sick of lowrance. They are so proud of their lagging technology. I run 2 carbon 12s with live updates and active target. They leave so much to be desired and no motivation to create an independent 360 and everything needs a stupid pricy module to work. I’m gonna switch the hummingbird when that time comes. I will NOT be upgrading to these new modules and transducers. They have not delivered on the money i already have spent with them.

[@donekpigeon6130]

Please stop Geo Fence . You cannot use a HDS out of USA if you dont pay double price.

[@InDepthSonar]

Yeah that is messed up

[@formatr6]

anybodyn get 360 to work? lol

[@InDepthSonar]

Calm days when you are not moving it works well

[@deltapromasterlauj4848]

garbage…..i’ll stick to garmin/hummingbird

[@InDepthSonar]

Enjoy

[@jameshanson9368]

Very confusing