LPL VS NA - TES VS TEAM LIQUID BEST OF 5 - MSI 2024 - CAEDREL

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[@Caedrel]

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[@bozhidarlyubomiov7630]

You deserve freedom bro will enter just bc zof you

[@YuriEnthusiast]

Omg FREEDOM FOR THE EDITOR JOIN BOIS

[@ZyzzEnjoyer]

He's giving you the plant treatment o7

[@markangeloporcare5289]

Already did, enjoy your daily one hour of freedom

[@giuseppepepe4404]

for your skin

[@111111hakar]

That plant is doing some serious heavy lifting for this video

[@rifffiq225]

the plant holding this video down for almost half of the video LOL

[@SkylieraZ]

😂

[@PatriusW]

"This is the closest West vs East matchup this tournament"

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

Not even close to close lmao

[@greenhat7618]

It’s still the closest

[@justalex7825]

@@greenhat7618 prob not, FNC looks far better if this is all TL can do

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

@@justalex7825 ignore him he's prob NA butthurt after joke performances

[@coolylame]

it could be, the other series will be worse

[@andreas8664]

First sentence aged well xdd

[@mukamuka0]

Definitely hardcore analysis...not

[@GIN.356.A]

"the closest east vs west series" checks out imo 🤷‍♂️

[@rac8153]

Its just NA. Their best team is a KR academy squad and the 2nd best are EU retired players. FNC showed that TES is indeed the weakest of the KR/CN teams at MSI. NA is just too weak to get random free spot like that

[@flyioncy3142]

You should remind yourself that BLG lost a game to GG last year and was also said to be the worst Eastern team

[@fabiwan1551]

I mean im EU but its still sad to see that NA after all those years getting worse and worse they literally should just deinstall the game.. Like why are they so bad that they cant even get one game of LCK or LPL

[@recusantvessel]

so inclusive of riot to include the Make-a-wish league of legends team at an international event

[@full-timepog6844]

x) this is a joke and all but this is essentially what RIOT is doing (intentionally or not) by inviting teams by region instead of skill.

[@kuzu958]

@@full-timepog6844true but, you have invite by region otherwise you will lose lots and lots of fans. TL should have been in the play-ins not the main event. We can only hope they wake up for the losers bracket

[@Skulcell]

@@full-timepog6844I mean it’s called international. Just like the World Cup, you have many countries which are not as good and you know they won’t win, but still participate to keep the viewership and fans of that region excited. Otherwise, countries like, Germany, Brazil, France, could keep making extra teams like team A, B, C… to participate and have better chances of winning.

[@AcediaRulerOfSloth]

@@Skulcell problem is LCS is a major region LMAO

[@alex2005z]

​@@full-timepog6844you have to feature multiple regions. Otherwise its Asia rift rivals not MSI or worlds. Every sport does this. And thats what play ins are for in MSI: to weed out the majority of the weaker teams

[@bober8268]

NA took LPL to 3 games tho

[@imheretosleep]

because there are 4 asians in the team

[@alexandernaydenov7539]

B05 series need to win 3 games to advance stupid ppl

[@jayinaganti9901]

@@imheretosleepbro it’s a best of 5

[@ktelite]

Great success

[@texthere1378]

The cope is unreal

[@white_breadd]

The fact that Game 1 started 3 hours before this upload does not bode well for TL...

[@jazykovyguru]

[@johnli8471]

total game time less than 78 mins bruh

[@rac8153]

27 min stomp, 24 min stomp, 25 min stomp. TL took 3 turrets in the ENTIRE BO5. Its one of the fastest BO 5 ever

[@endefisto123]

@@rac8153 Lets give one of the top 3 adc's in the world his main champion TWICE. Surely that will go well in a bot lane focused pro meta.

[@ddomni8199]

@@endefisto123 bro that difference on rift had nothing to do with champs. They might butchered some aspects of drafts, but they would wipe them 3-0 on teemo, yi and twitch

[@hc7523]

Caedrel: "I feel like this is the closests west vs east matchup" also Caedrel: "that wasn't even close"

[@rac8153]

Yeon random KR challenger managed to get 14 cs in 4 waves while laning 2v0. So he got 14 cs in 4 UNCONTESTED waves. That shit would get reported in low plat

[@johnsonwu3001]

@@rac8153that is unironically bronze level csing

[@GabrieleLazzati]

That is sad but true, imagine last year LPL 2nd seed vs this. They would have FF

[@SimpleReally]

yeah it's called a prediction, genius

[@Riptide09]

1 hour video? This about to be a 5 games banger

[@filililililililililililipo4493]

XD

[@pulzewidth]

>clueless

[@die_violine]

Brother does not know the plant

[@recokabum6005]

😅😂🤣🤬🤬🤬👍

[@shanks2058]

Na is now 2 -39 against lpl/lck 💀 , 5 % winrate

[@rac8153]

And its not that better if you add Na vs EU too since S2. Even LMS has a decent winrate vs NA. NA is 1-14 in term of tiebreakers at worlds/MSI also NA is surprisingly good vs wildcards however, thats why they keep getting random spot at international events

[@yddq6884]

2-41 no?

[@chiyue5676]

@@yddq6884 where u guys getting these stats

[@DailyShit.]

Since when ?

[@user-uf6cx3yy2o]

This has to be wrong tho because TL beat IG 3-1 in 2019 MSI semis. Are these stats just for Worlds?

[@EvelynVash]

Very cathartic watching apa get clapped by support ornn

[@micahchurch5733]

it was wild and i wasnt expecting that

[@markangeloporcare5289]

Petition to demote NA to a minor region after repeated failures

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Only if EU comes with us since you lost to NA last year, and you're gonna get clapped by China all the same

[@krosneq2654]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 NA biggest achievement, win against g2 XD

[@danc8218]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 At least G2 won some games against asian teams last worlds

[@Kyong008]

@@krosneq2654 theyre gonna cling to 2023 for a long time it seems lmao. It's not even EU's biggest loss to NA, mind u

[@twanvanderdonk2504]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 How did Fnatic do against the same team? 2nd EU did miles better than 1st seed NA.

[@divinemattress]

As an aspiring 100m sprint athlete, i spend a lot of my down time VOD reviewing my home region of NA at international events. They inspire me to sprint it even faster 🙏🙏🙏

[@alex2005z]

You got a hard run to beat. Will have to practice a lot

[@MrLuoth]

That’s hilarious

[@BurningIce301]

"I don't think there has been an eastern team that looked this weak in so many years" AWARE

[@gyeongchankim5423]

Bro forgot about 21 FPX, 22 TES, and 23 DWG.

[@rac8153]

vs NA, even KR 7th seed will look unstoppable. NA best teams are a KR challenger squad and a retired EU friends squad with a clowny NA botlane

[@12mulesandy]

@@rac8153 I forgot if LCS playoffs have 6 or 8 teams but if its 8 genuinely T1A would be a LCS playoff team

[@ahmedakmal9244]

@@12mulesandy IKR Smash was looking hype and Dal's aatrox was Pog W!

[@EE12345]

I don't think there has been an NA team that looked this weak since... yesterday

[@vabsm9673]

what a stomp man they might have 10-0 if they played 10 games

[@eVill420]

They might even have 20-0, this is worse than some wildcard performancea

[@alex2005z]

Tian wouldnt let that happen.

[@CesarGarcia-sh3vk]

Editor for sure having fun doing the anti spoiler plant. He did give NA watchers hope for sure 😂😂😂

[@meldenalberto9040]

I Just noticed this but TES got a LPL Champion from each gen of the LPL Champions JackeyLove from IG Tian from FPX Meiko from EDG

[@almightyraven8220]

roster stacked

[@AxielFan]

This is just a repeat of LCS 1 vs LPL 2 last year, where LPL 2 dropped 1 game in playins not playing seriously and everyone immediately thought they sucked. Riot needs to change the script

[@adriencarette8285]

Fnatic did a better job against TES than TL. NA is NA has always

[@AxielFan]

@@adriencarette8285 You could also say that GG did better than C9 against BLG but then they got destroyed by C9 in lower bracket. I would just wait to see how it plays out before jumping to conclusions.

[@CoffeeSipper555]

You can say what you want but FNC put up a fight in 2 of those games and it's obvious even to my grandmother that FNC played on a completely different level than TL even if that wasn't enough to beat TES, it wasn't that absurd of a stomp like this one, this felt like bronze vs GM, it never turned to a real fight to win the series but it stayed a casual stomp from beginning to end so it's kinda disrespecftul and unfair what you said.

[@silent-v1896]

​@@AxielFanfax

[@AxielFan]

@@CoffeeSipper555 All I did was state facts. This is just what happened at last year's MSI. Just go rewatch the games. BLG looked vulnerable and disorganized in playins before 3-0ing C9, GENG and 3-1ing T1.

[@langzikuaidao4777]

you know things are going great guns when your ornn support is solo-killing enemy top, mid and adc randomly.

[@Scorpioide]

I really believed it when ppl said "you know, this year, NA is over EU, except for G2". Not that EUW will perform very well, but FNC showed way more than any other western team so far.

[@pulisichhh]

"any western team" you mean just fly quest? That's a hella low bar to beat, ask PSG.

[@Scorpioide]

@@pulisichhh Well, not just Flyquest, but TL as well, that's my point.

[@marknovchestercalubing1932]

NA EU same level😂

[@Scorpioide]

@@marknovchestercalubing1932 Really not. They will get the same results because the cars at 130mph always go faster, but that's no reason to imply that the car at 80 mph and the one at 100 mph are going to the exact same speed.

[@noelliu5146]

Nice analogy but I would change 80 vs 100 to a car going backwards vs a car going at 100 Even though West vs LCK/LPL is a huge gap, that FLY- PSG was a disgrace

[@blapip6147]

Asian teams are smart af. They're really wise in using their resources. They don't flash if they don't have to even if they're 1 hp. They're like very calculated and knows damage and limits of their champions and also the enemies champs. Very nice to watch.

[@zhanhao9456]

And this is with JKL who we're talking about LMAO. Dude + Elk are the most hyperaggressive adc in the LPL who tend to flash for kills.

[@alex2005z]

​@@zhanhao9456JKL on 1 hp flashes forward to kill you

[@almightyraven8220]

@@zhanhao9456 LPL have a more aggressive playstyle than other regions so that is why they tend to flash in more, rather than flashing away

[@ye8049]

Spoiler block thank me later

[@merlinmendoza5177]

Bro we already know the outcome since the matches got picked

[@prize9550]

thank you so much, i cannot guess who is going to win!!

[@LJKGray]

Maann, I'm sure 1% NA beleiver can't guess the outcome of this stomp and will thank you for this

[@GraendalGMS]

Thank you brother, the stakes were so high for this one

[@chuu7633]

no need spoiler block, we all know it's gonna be 3-0 TES

[@ryojinshingen9352]

Editor is quicker than TL

[@cirrinaught9518]

You have to remember apa is instantly nerfed when he goes to international because he can't trash talk

[@plebbutter3811]

he still trash talked lmao, something about three mid bans and then they just told him to shut up xdd

[@gyeongchankim5423]

He actually did at the start of game1... but after they eot absolutely crushed like that trashtalk doesn't mean much.

[@jxswu3224]

​@@gyeongchankim5423 Tian said APA was trash talking during lobby and Tian basically just said shut up during Game 1 cause he believed that both parties should just focus on playing league

[@rac8153]

He is just the traditional NA mid, will never do well vs decent midlaner. They only have jobs because of quota with NA being forced to field Na players. And to make it even worse, Creme is actually the worst asian mid at the event. We saw how weak Creme can be vs humanoid or in LPL. And yet, he still completely outclassed that NA quota mid

[@vez3834]

@@jxswu3224 Countered by mute button

[@duongtrungtu897]

The most important thing I want to point out is that TL even don't fight back seriously. They like just farm, get killed and wait for the end of game. Haiyaa, the game is simply boring

[@samuel-nq6he]

This was the least competitive series I've watched in a while

[@rac8153]

They dont have the roster to fight back, not a single NA teams has a major region roster because of NA players quota.

[@lokkiirl4793]

Yeah man just run at enemies and attack them dont worry about it

[@bigrichard1992]

@@rac8153there’s 2 world champions on tl’s roster…

[@bigrichard1992]

It’s been the biggest weakness of the west for years now. They just don’t understand that fundamentally league of legends is a fighting game. They can’t team fight at all. They play every fight to not lose and as a result lose every one of them

[@tehmastawow]

Good to see creme rememberd that he's actually good. Was tough watching him last series.

[@trontrekz]

I am American and I have completely given up on America in international events. I have not even been watching the LCS this year very much. I watch LEC more (I am half Italian). To put in perspective, I went to LCS Spring finals last year in Raleigh and now I lost all hope.

[@pulzewidth]

the average na fan

[@jakobwaack4148]

Pathetic

[@moneybuyer6046]

Thank god they play at 5am on Saturday, I don't have to wake up early for that shit

[@john_hannes5763]

TL is so sweet🫂 they speed run this serie so they could accompany FLY to their way back home to NA🥺

[@ShyartiN]

for unknown reasons i ignored your casting vids but!! they are pure comedy gold i love it. and you are dropping facts ontop 👌

[@herdiyanchaerully1066]

Welcome to the LCK-LPL rift rivals Stage

[@imHansi]

That analysis was perfect, we need one for each game XD

[@itsaralee]

lmaooo first sentence

[@Livio1772]

The plant doing some heavy v lift today

[@fuwu9904]

I like how TL wasnt shortened but TES was despite both names having the exact same amount of letters in them

[@WHIKKEDDDD]

being an NA fan is so difficult, hopefully EU has a kickass showing, rooting for the boys

[@iwa9691]

this was a best of three - the best team won in three games.

[@masonlazy2740]

Never really notice ban but that game 1 ban is hilarious to me. TES said fuck your mid laner and support player. TL said fuck your ADC and JG

[@alex2005z]

TES found a one trick and banned him out. Later on, they realized the mute button was enough to lock down APA

[@grumpycat1457]

holy guacamole TL just stomped TES?!

[@cmpauls3]

9:30 TL f'd up the series, starting from that JKL 2k at Top on G1 HOLY

[@Rosawww]

closest is crazy. 3games finished in around 80mins 😭

[@Throwinglines]

Caedrel Not hating NA at the start was the highlight of NA today.

[@baoluonggia5894]

Last year they had Sir Mark in the team, still sent to Near Airport by GAM :)))

[@ChupapiMunyanyo24]

Bro 1st seed got stomped? Nasty nasty

[@pj6689]

Caedrel hasn’t coped this hard in years haha love you rat king

[@Heval_Kurd]

I feel bad for Impact being with stuck with these teammates that are just running it lol

[@Xiagame1999]

Look like wildcard team 😮‍💨

[@Idle724]

Only real ones watch the anti spoiler plant till the very end.

[@feinein]

cadrel said game 1 is over for TES AINTNOWAY

[@incog_nemui]

they are more korean than american in TL. So maybe it should be LPL vs LCK/Korean

[@Asomugha24xPro]

The Asol 360 intervention montage xD

[@smo6257]

At least they fought. FLY just rolled over and died

[@jxswu3224]

TL went to the wrong tournament, LPL legends cup starts after MSI. Legend cup has Ning, TheShy, UZI, IMP, Let me and more but most important thing for Caedral there is THESHY!!!

[@user-st5dr2dj6u]

it's not even close

[@amSong13]

00:03 yes, you are 😂😂

[@roberto789shadow]

The sadest series in all MSI until now! I lost my time watching this! Hahahaha

[@stevenmontelongo23]

The one takeaway I have from this is that I can confidently tell everyone who told me APA and Yeon are actually good that they can shut the f up.

[@micahchurch5733]

yeon is getting better dunno about apa like in comparison to last year at least but obv not good yet at internationals, like caps will walkz over apa too

[@nepchan2086]

@@micahchurch5733 I mean yeon somehow managed to go 15cs down laning versus noone sooo

[@Turbovolver]

​@@nepchan2086 yeah yeon was way nervous here. APA seemed fine to me but I'm no pro

[@MrJotn3]

THIS IS THE BAR, well we're fucked :)

[@WheresFaith]

Riot should schedule another best of 5 next too NA games. They’re so dam short.

[@shunia]

I've watched the full game but still find this video entertaining

[@shunia]

I mean his def losing passion to TL

[@hardstronomer202]

Dam can’t believe kcorp won

[@TKDCWAH]

It's the 10th year Impact joined NA, everytime I see him in internationals with the "what can I do?" face😅

[@pakholee6590]

TL look like a student who never study before going into the exam room

[@CxerRy96]

Tian played EXCELLENT based on the clips

[@LittleMaster18]

Yoooooo, thanks for removing the preview that spoils the vids. my man. goat

[@jarodexists474]

Bro has jinxed Tian to humble him this tournament

[@pyke4life859]

Doublelift has been really quiet

[@micahchurch5733]

i think yeon has improved so much since rookie year tbh looking rather good regardless of the stomp

[@handyan7]

NA: Near Airport strikes again!

[@FranciscoLopez-my7us]

47:24 caster desk just having fun lmaoo

[@yhc67]

Jungler UMTI won the LCS in his first year. But When he was in the LCK, he was 9th, 6th, 9th, 8th, 8th(21summer~23summer ) out of 10 teams. A player who had been playing for a low-ranking LCK team came to the LCS and won the championship in his first year. the team received a major seed2 at MSI. Impact and CoreJJ also the same. They were no longer competitive in Korea, so they left Korea and transferred to a foreign team. A team composed of such players won the national league! WOW!!This is the current league level of LCS. The reality is that it is now losing ground to LCK, LPL, LEC or even PCS. It is ridiculous that LCS has applied the top seed as a major league. Shouldn't it be considered a minor from now on?

[@user-nn2dk4qw5y]

agreed. pcs should be considered a major if they can upset blg.

[@gabrielcho1621]

@@user-nn2dk4qw5ywoah woah now. Pump da brakes. They r NOTTT beating blg. Wtfffff

[@eVill420]

CoreJJ literally won worlds before going to NA... And Impact also just won worlds... Umti was in BRO jail, without him the team is lifeless

[@nepchan2086]

@@eVill420 Actually no, thats wrong, corejj went to NA for a year, went back to korea, won worlds, went back to NA

[@eVill420]

@@nepchan2086 yes... So the last time he came to NA he just won worlds. Are you stupid?

[@coolmasterjg2450]

Bruh the amount of objective guven away is INSANE. TL gave a minimum of 3 DRAKES each game... playing the game without buffs is NASTY WORK NGL

[@lsmerq5342]

World 2019 just woke up

[@hrishinaik281]

He was infact, capping

[@tudorminciunescu9614]

That is a big spoiler plant

[@ZyzzEnjoyer]

Yappa goated

[@andrewgabbert8654]

Video is longer than the actual game lengths put together

[@insanejack9344]

Jackeylove with stage game practice is scary....

[@mindawang6004]

对SKT打出15.57的创造者之一，他是世界顶级ADC

[@harmanjotsingh1696]

We dont need a spoiler shield for this one

[@hjc12]

The closest...

[@mlgbblade5221]

What else do you expect when your midlaner is countered by mute bottom

[@kobrpo2292]

Holy shit I just checked

[@Matiast9477]

No need for spoiler block, we all knew what was gonna happen

[@DShott852]

Man...the beginning of this video doesn't end well.

[@vasquezelijaha.6686]

yeon be like: inting and emoting.. mygad

[@Jerrbearr0520]

YAPPA got CLAPPA

[@Yrrashe]

Good thing I didn't believe Caedrel that TES is weak just because of the play-ins result. I believed much in TL (basically every NA team) to be just bad internationally and they had to face a high chance of FNC at the lower bracket which FLY Quest should take not that TL will be home soon too. predicted 3-0 in this series and got rewarded

[@ZachiDelumpa]

TES having 3 World Champions from the 3 different LPL team Champs brings a smile to my face.

[@ktkt-hd4uu]

T1 sons

[@tehmastawow]

@@ktkt-hd4uu T1 fanatics try not to bring up your team when they're not even mentioned: challenge impossible. This is why everybody hates you

[@skadar6950]

TL have 2

[@FynnRosenzweig]

@@ktkt-hd4uu T1 is blg and gen g's son

[@ktkt-hd4uu]

@@FynnRosenzweig remember t1 2-0 blg ez

[@zerotsang4604]

TL trying to get on the plane before Fly

[@jaybonline]

it's like watching silver vs emerald

[@B0lzenlol]

What Caedrel doesn’t know: Hans will go trist mid and caps plays the jhin

[@TheXtReMeBaSheR]

man it was obvious even with the anti spoiler plant

[@user-ju1bq4qs9f]

there is some video between the ads

[@ShrewberryFarms]

The 360!!! Look at the 360!!!! That was a hype moment. RIP TL, you never had a chance 🪦🪦🪦

[@FitzChivalry]

I don't think I've ever seen a 20k gold lead in 24 mins. That's crazy. Were TL disconnected in game 2 or something?

[@colddanny1549]

When Caedrel talks about Tes v TL it sounds as if they have a chance. Even ingame when i didn't watch, i was like: ok slightly worse trade for tl. When in reality, they got stomped 3 games in a row....

[@fishbones9396]

riot should create a new pro tournament with LCS PCS CBLOL VCS and LJL

[@chiyue5676]

sounds like lower bracket to me

[@alex2005z]

PCS cleans

[@WhoseWho2701]

Trashtalk Liquid HHAHA

[@Koryogden]

Asking to lose if you trash talk

[@peytonsmith1062]

Before this game started I can't believe NA fans are predicting 3-2 to TL beating TES. Someone said in the live chat said that UmTi will destroy Tian. Like? UmTi was a 10th place LCK jungler when he was in that league. He went to NA because of how bad he actually is. Everyone like myself predicted 3-0 to TES tho. There's no way Yeon/Corejj is better than JackeyLove and Meiko. Even 369 alone will gap Impact. And you're comparing a 10th place LCK jungler (UmTi) with Tian? who manages to get TES to 2nd seed in their region? LPL? With a record of 13-3. *TL and NA fans despite their region being rolled over the amount of copium and how delusional they are truly amazes me.*

[@rac8153]

A professional NA analyst predicted 3-2. that's all you need to know to understand how big the reality denying problem is in NA

[@silent-v1896]

bro actually fax i couldn't believe the amount of copium i seen people saying na had a chance it was nuts

[@arcticfoxes8034]

I mean it made sense. TES dropped a game to fnatic and looked shaky in their wins, plus Tian had a history of choking internationally (after the worlds win obviously). TL coming in to MSI looked better than Fnatic. It was definitely TES sided, and I predicted TES, but even EU/LCK fans were predicting it to be a lot closer.

[@AbnerFuentes]

Did Voli get nerfed comfort for Umti would have been nice he seemed really out of sorts