[LS Coaching] NA Diamond 1 Top Vladimir (Sanchovies) // Focus on lane/freezing

[@yazan9335]

Just imagine every vlad player like this

[@entropy7705]

I'd be more tilted than a Vlad who harasses me constantly.

[@repsforjesus3563]

Just played it. All other lanes lost, game was over at min 20.

[@550xxx23]

Reps for Jesus welcome to playing vlad

[@Dildawggg]

This is actually so tilting good wave management tilts me off the face of the planet I could die 5 time sinlane still be cool but this is just triggering

[@kraakelol]

Permanent temporary vision sounds OP!

[@brooksgunn5235]

I didn't know it was Sanch until 13 minutes in, lol.

[@jgf9105]

omg this actually made me fucking cry its the funniest thing i've seen in a while

[@iamsyzygy9611]

How does he target the minion with lower hp without clicking on it??

[@mann6374]

Auto attack click move set to A on your keyboard, that way you auto attack will target the closest target to your cursor! Go to settings hotkeys, player movement select auto attack move click on A!

[@reptilianboy7355]

It's magic

[@DiegoSenge]

people play without this?

[@reptilianboy7355]

@@DiegoSenge actually i don't

[@DiegoSenge]

​@@reptilianboy7355 There are reasons you should but it's not like you will drop 5 divisons if you don't :D

[@Loldx123]

i mean yes you can freeze here but you can't do this all the time. At 3:30 for example jax goes to ward and loses minion xp which is terrible for a melee he has to be the same lv or above to keep all inning. He should have traded one of his 3 potions and heatlh just to get the wave in at all costs, it simple resets then and hes fine.

[@gmnr1336]

When LS says to go inside the enemy minion wave to prevent it from crashing, whats stopping Jax from engaging on him, wont he get extremely low?

[@rogerpaips9701]

mental disorder i would think

[@CamaradaArdi]

Yes but life is a resource there

[@gmnr1336]

Camarada Ardi yes but why? I understand that use your health to freeze the wave and stuff but.... how do you know you won’t die?

[@dirtyducks7576]

@@gmnr1336 vlad can just heal himself and even if he gets low as long as he freezes the wave jax can't do anything anyway.

[@cbadesha]

LeagueSesh pool

[@icoachi97]

is there a rule of thumb when its best to freeze and when to shove?

[@tuggle6771]

LordMasterKing Not exactly, but you should shove when you want to deny them xp/gold after they base, when you want to roam to another lane or into the jungle, and when you want to base. Shoving is also a good way to reset the lane state. Freezing is a bit more complicated and you just kinda have to feel it out, but it is strong in almost all situations. If you are ahead in lane, freezing allows you to deny you laner cs/xp while threatening an all in if the over extended for cs. If you are behind it allows to you farm safely near your tower. Freezing is also good to set up a gank for you jungler when they go up to farm, it’s also good when you are playing weak side as you cannot get dove because the minions are not under tower but you cannot get ganked as you are pretty much under your tower. Always be asking yourself “what should I be doing with the wave in this situation” the more you ask yourself that the more you force yourself to actually think and in turn you will start to see similar situation reoccurring in your games and know how to manage the wave as a result. There are a lot of good wave management guides out there on KZbin (sorry to lazy to link but just look up wave management league and pick your favorite, they all good over the same concepts). Wave management is one of the most important things in laning phase and you can straight up when a lane just off superior wave management. Good luck in solo queue!

[@white3378]

What the video is showing is to freeze when you can and shove when you can’t.

[@wwebadgerse]

Unless you are relatively high elo, the rule of thumb is a little too complex to be considering under the pressure of lane. But considerations include : champion strength at particular levels/item advantages, teleport/ignite advantage, rift priority, jungle diff, where the each teams junglers are, whether dragon is coming up, midlane priority, chase potential, gold amount and probably alot more. Youre looking to take advantage of all those tiny differences, and in high elo those tiny differences are huge. The rule of thumb is to consider as many of those as possible and decide whether its better to have the wave pushed or not. For example, if the enemy has no chase potential on you, the dragons coming up, your midlane has prio and the enemy just based - you wanna hard shove that for dragon pressure, or maybe your jungler has rift and you can 3 man that down mid etc etc. The more you play the more you will subconsciously take note of these things. This video illustrates the even more complex side of it such as considering all those things FOR the enemy too. Like when jax wanted him to hit him, any player including myself would do it, but they knew that was what jax wanted to take advantage off, so you deny him that opportunity. Sorry it's not too helpful but maybe it will help your mindset towards the laning phase. I promise you, if you perfect your macro thinking like this you can compete in platinum easily with even bronze level mechanics.

[@white3378]

@@wwebadgerse dam dude thats a whole book you just wrote

[@wwebadgerse]

@@white3378 just tryna help

[@suppercanes]

At about 9:53, why does LS say he'd messed up in freezing? Isn't it the scope of freezing to have more casters of the enemy's than yours?

[@hosamhosam9204]

1 more caster for enemy is not enough and will not freeze, it will slow push towards the enemy

[@snowflora1247]

Your reinforcements arriving faster because closer proximity of the wave to ur turret outweighs the extra minion the enemy has

[@hosamhosam9204]

@@snowflora1247 wow you are Englisher than me. gg wp

[@suppercanes]

Thanks a lot guys!

[@ieroshd7912]

You generally want to have 4 minions, preferably caster minions, to maintain a freeze. One of the casters died, so the freeze would break and slow push to the enemy lane.

[@samuelyang8952]

Can someone explain why ls says to not hit the jax?

[@horseaphoenix1016]

You want his creeps to constantly hitting your creeps, not your champion.

[@isoreii5062]

@Bob Daniels damn it I wanted to explain it : ( since im so bad at this game I was gonna explain to this dude why and look like a smart person but now I cant do it

[@isoreii5062]

@@Nat1vecs what

[@isoreii5062]

@@Nat1vecs I mean why do you care?

[@NorthernHarker]

@@isoreii5062 LMFAO

[@thebitlot]

I'mma be your 888th subscriber. I'm liking what I'm seeing.

[@0xLeer]

does this work against range matchups too?

[@yazan9335]

Yup bec if u ahead he cant touch the wave if it freezed near to ur side

[@thesunfirecape]

no

[@oontaa7765]

For ranged its easier to break the freeze since you get to auto attack easier

[@gganbu_]

depends on a case to case basis

[@rishijoshi1758]

You can´t really freeze against ranged champions, unless you are really ahead and can 1 shot them. They can easily push the wave into your tower.

[@temptationskating4889]

Im confused why LS says to not poke him down. I get that youll get minion agro but are you just supposed to not go for kills?

[@asdfire]

He's making CS and safety the main goal. Enemy jg is rengar and u have funnel so poking -> pushing -> rengar ganks/zoned off xp+CS

[@temptationskating4889]

@@asdfire That makes sense but how would just Q'ing him do anything to put you at a disadvantage oter than the creeps agroing on you

[@forgetfulnight4868]

@@temptationskating4889 he explains later in the video.Ιf you pick vlad your goal is to get to stall the game out so you can 1v9 in the late game.Kills aren't a priority cause you don't want to get ahead early cause it's irrelevant to your champion's design.So you don't hit him at all just focus on csing and winning lane

[@elkstuff]

Temptation Skating gaining aggro pushes your wave up (it makes opposing minions attack u instead of ur wave) which is the opposite of his goal, freezing.

[@asdfire]

Temptation Skating creeps Agro on you mean that their not attacking your creeps while yours are attacking theirs. Therefore enemy creeps die faster -> your lane pushes

[@jek93milani]

Ihih he doesn't know ihih

[@tbo1268]

Farming 15 mins on lane to get 5 mins of action to win or loose,welcome to the lamest champ in league of legends.

[@whoislmfao3925]

farm 10 minutes 1shoot their midlaner with 1 iten and win game

[@andycheung3769]

Literally every ADC player

[@TheUrke99bre]

Laughs in Veigar and Nasus

[@wirelessbrain12]

So you're that guy that all ins at lvl 1........

[@Cafetero_]

wirelessbrain12 welcome to iron

[@whisky_cat]

I mean the jax was like silver so i guess

[@fratsou]

what is the point of blocking minions when you have 3 minions alive from previous wave,they are going to go at the same exact spot lol

[@teemuratilainen1308]

So the enemy minions wouldnt die so fast. I think he said it in the vid

[@trysephiroth007]

If it takes longer for his minions to get there that means the enemy minions aren't taking the extra damage as soon which he wanted for the freeze.

[@fratsou]

@@trysephiroth007 i see i was high when i write the comment lo xD

[@Nanntektinten]

0:20 "You can dot the map up in permanent vision, *temporarily* Literally contradicts himself in the same sentence xd

[@Mageofpie]

I think what he means is similar to a vision ward it's permanent, but it'll only be temporary because it'll get cleared.

[@JohnDoe-gw9vs]

The permanent vision refers to the type of ward, you low elo idiot

[@maxtaylor12]

lmfao

[@stephenh5057]

Missed one key point - you get aggro if you AA Jax... but not if you Q him. You should be doing 'safe' Qs on Jax as much as possible and you will actually have kill potential when the Jax gets frustrated. If you play like the guy does in the video you will win a decent amount of games, but one simple tweak to do the above and you will win significantly more. Additionally, you will become a better player much quicker doing this and pushing your limits, rather than just playing safe and never learning them.

[@RossM1066]

You do take aggro when you use Q on him. Look @13:23

[@stephenh5057]

@@RossM1066 Oh well, been too long since I played! This wasn't the case many moons ago - it used to be no spells pulled aggro.

[@grimwill7686]

@@stephenh5057 They changed it a while ago so that single target spells draw aggro, aoe spells still don't though.

[@fuffi8550]

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[@cedriclim6114]

btw if you freeze after tier 1 down, I will literally roam and destroy the rest of your team in a number advantage. That is why in soloq, its better to create pressure and push instead of a freeze if the enemy is ms even trade a tower if your lane goes elsewhere.

[@meta6504]

I dont think u understand that this is because he is Vlad. If he was playing someone like quinn than the wave management would be different. Yeah, you can roam but that pressure would amount to nothing since vlad is slowly scaling and destroys everyone late game no matter how fed or how much pressure u put.

[@wombot2188]

i mean they are playing in another level. there are more variables we and you don't know

[@dropkiluehsj7750]

Cedric Lim u act like players just ignore their mini map and billions of Mia pings LMFAO this is not fucking iron 2 where those players only see u when u show up on their screen

[@Lucapro0909]

Tried it three times, lost all three games, when I would freeze they would just almost always force me back in turret by forcing a fight making me have to use my pots and need to cs under tower, if I had no pots it was almost always a tower dive with jg and then just repeat that process for the whole game and you have yourself a 1/10 vlad that is completely useless don't know what I did wrong if anyone has an idea, I would like to hear it

[@albertesquivel740]

I think the best thing to do is to watch your replays and see why you lose those trades. But you shouldn't always be freezing. If you watch some of his other videos sometimes you need to shove and play aggressive. You are freezing to gain small advantages over time or make your enemy laner vulnerable to a gank.

[@brandaccountname9833]

Vlad actually does take some skill so if your playing him for the first time you will lose

[@brandaccountname9833]

Also he said its not a strat that you always do its something you do when the variables are right

[@andyhuynh2625]

Omitting context around your experience. Nice. No mentions of your rank, if you actually freezed properly, the lane matchup, if you played each situation properly, etc.

[@thanh6523]

Brazukaa Then you're not doing it correctly, freezing against a ranged champ is very different from freezing with a bruiser like jax in this clip

[@ds2sofs]

How the fuck did he reach D1 if he doesn't even know how to freeze a wave lmao

[@algot34]

Such a fake laugh

[@GIRUUUR]

Yeah continue freezing while we end the game bruh

[@actjokinglyric830]

Well yeah thats how nasus players do it

[@fuffi8550]

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[@d4s0n282]

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[@fuffi8550]

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[@d4s0n282]

@@fuffi8550 unlucky for u

[@matt-de9vh]

elite500 is top1 vlad

[@johannes2650]

diamond 1, top, vladimir. is how it should have been played. and also, Elite500 probably isnt the best vlad player in the world.

[@vondraker]

doesn't say top 1 vlad lol

[@grem12311]

elite is top1 eu vlad he is farm from the best vlad in general he is stuck in low masters in kr

[@m.d4375]

Lol he is diamond 1 meanwhile there are people in korean solo Q top 10 who play vlad, pretty sure they are way better.

[@kraakelol]

He is playing Vladimir in the toplane in Diamond 1 elo. You misunderstood the title :-)

[@dunkelheitprofano1472]

got bored with forced laughter

[@TogiStogie]

WHat a boring game farm whole time and end up with 3 kills xD

[@eashanshenai4980]

League isn't a fighting game, it's a moba.

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

LoL Clutch Moments play NARAM if you want to do that or play jungle and just choose a super aggressive jungle like Elise or Lee Sin

[@SirShifter]

Just farm kills if you're gold or lower

[@oontaa7765]

League is actually a strategy game not arena fighting game

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

Tero Moilanen well technically league is a MOBA which stands for Multiplayer online battle arena so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@amrcnngrmny]

Imagine paying someone to tell you to freeze a lane lol. Big yikes .

[@germanrud9904]

this guy is cringe

[@fuffi8550]

Hi!, I see you're one of the most recent commentator here, so you probably during that time have watched other Eravohn Rname videos, could you help me? I'm trying to recover most of the Eravohn Rname unlisted coaching videos so me and other people can rewatch them, please message me on discord, and I ask you to do the google takeout of your KZbin history and look for Eravohn Rname unlisted videos link, me and a friend already did it and looking around the internet we managed to get only 14, we are asking here because its our last hope, we tried everything, thanks. (My discord -> Fuffi.#6224)