Perfect Boros From Start To Finish | Vintage Cube Draft

[@richardswabey9927]

Not going to lie, you had me for a moment there...

[@benlittle5543]

I was super had. Reasonable arguments could be made

[@WesleyMaguire-sy2nj]

I'm not often *got* by an lsv troll. But I was holding my breath that whole time.

[@whynotlin7998]

RIP Goldspan Dragon. Went to the sideboard for the joke and then never came back

[@Anthony-nd6vk]

I was entirely had lul

[@LucianDevine]

With how he'd talked about it just minutes before, I think that's fair, lol.

[@Eszik3]

The foreshadowing of Luis getting on his soapbox about Lurrus was so good

[@aaronketzenberger8411]

“I don’t even know if those cards are good” lmao peak entertainment

[@austinnadz1]

Our man didn't even comment on the Academy in Pack 3-- so disciplined.

[@jonathanjosephdoogue3042]

That last opponent deck was crazy. Lotus, Recall, Mox, Academy.

[@ryandemarco4178]

Breach, Brain Freeze, LED. Dear lord.

[@kavugoz321]

Blinking their stuff with the doggo with Containment priest in play is also such a fun combo that makes 2 already top tier aggro cards even better! (I dunno if he says or does this here I am only part way through the draft lol)

[@georgesprat9697]

I've been watching these daily and this was the most disciplined draft I've seen yet.

[@87539319]

😂😂😂 got me good with I don't even know if those cards are good

[@crystalfelts2404]

34:44 Hey hey, I was your opponent round 2. Funny story here is that I had a pile planed that involved fetching and baubling that killed quicker but forgot to play them before the Doomsday so I had to rebuild my pile 😅. GGs!

[@gregpeloquin6345]

Your deck was super interesting. Very cool to see.

[@duffstrodamus3233]

Sweet deck bruv

[@danpickett2279]

Awesome deck!

[@andyony2]

In game 2, when you got Stück on 2 plains, you could have pitch cast Fury and path it in response to get a mountain :)

[@dementievatz]

I think he was considering it but didn’t want to do it without a good target in play. Might have still been worth it just to -4 the Sorin.

[@Laevateinn-]

holy smokes, that last opp's deck was basically Saitama in cardboard form

[@gustavvonalten631]

31:00 pitch casting fury and playing path to get yourself a mountain could have got you going

[@eq.8640]

I love the response to the comments from the Lurrus about cutting Fury. It’s good reasoning for being a fan of Lurrus

[@snappycaster]

I got extremely got by that lurrus pump fake. 😂 Question: if you had “accidentally “ taken lurrus there would that be enough to get you to commit at that point or are you abandoning the lurrus still?

[@dementievatz]

I would play Lurrus in main deck probably.

[@BarginsGalore]

@@dementievatzyeah lurrus is fine in the 40

[@AndrewIsbell]

There is an argument that Lurrus as printed before the errata was the strongest card ever printed in the history of magic

[@traycarrot]

There's always arguments, doesn't mean they're very good arguments.

[@bricelory9534]

Yes, just like adding 3 mana to Black Lotus also makes it a lot worse.

[@aaronprieto9567]

This is my opinion fwiw

[@andrewelenbogen5574]

Before errata it simply was the strongest card ever. After errata it was merely the strongest creature ever.

[@bevrosity]

no

[@Fetterfun]

Lsv got me gearing up to type up how cutting the 2 best red 4 drops and not picking the number 1 anti combo tech for boros was just such a blatant mistake. Ggwp

[@samualnightingale3024]

ngl - the lurus drag everything to the sideboard got me good - well played

[@Drainy1986]

Love your positive mindset to stay upbeat and laugh about your bad run of results!

[@nthnthms1212]

That Lurrus rant is 100% factual. It is so strong.

[@wtsnoot]

I was completely sold that you were taking Lurrus. Masterfully done

[@actualjessielive783]

I agree LSV I always keep in mind when picking thought scour (or even in constructed) if they scry or surveil to the top you thought scour them.. it’s a card they want lol

[@sanguine6939]

Great draft, I'm extremely glad you stuck to two colours. You fully had me with the Lurrus 😄

[@nephrium]

Luis, I was questioning EVERYTHING when you started removing half your deck for Lurrus, and you'd JUST talked me into not being a h8r!

[@brianh5844]

Feels like your first match opponent saw they were playing LSV and just was really nervous.

[@jrjamesson]

or just very new to the MTGO interface? Not having the precombat stop, for example

[@cheezuschrist588]

On the turn you drew path I think it was worth evoking fury then pathing it in order to guarantee a red source on future turns. Especially since emberheart and inti could theoretically recoup the card advantage

[@arpacoo]

I think I'm supposed to keep this hand sometimes sounds so similar to I think I'm supposed to lose this game! Laughed at the Lurrus pick. Well played.

[@notsure7813]

P3P4 Mox Diamond might have been better then Gut, only thing deck was missing was mana acceleration.

[@dementievatz]

Yeah, I was going to comment that this deck is full of great cards, but when I do really well with Boros it usually involves multiple fast mana artifacts and/or more of the X-for-1s that he wasn’t seeing (Jailer, Fable, Forth, etc.).

[@jrjamesson]

dang, that last deck is a deck I would have *loved* to see you play. (and you used to!)

[@phobos9071]

31:00 pitch-cast fury, path your own fury to take a mountain?

[@Schumusic]

Came here to say this

[@grin_of_grimmsnarl1333]

Sweet Mother of God. 5 mana on turn one. That last opponent was COOKING

[@Nightwishmaster]

Everything kind of blurs together for me over the years so it's hard to say for sure if that's the best vintage cube deck I've ever seen but holy hell it doesn't take much effort for me to imagine it is. I'm sure at some point it's quite possible I've seen better decks but I don't know if I've ever seen a cube deck I've wanted to pilot more in my life right now lol.

[@peisenxu952]

By man read the format as "Vintage..." and stopped reading

[@benlucas3151]

Match 1 was really something.

[@mikeschmitt6847]

lurrus bit was gold thank you for that

[@danielsandefur7364]

Perfect draft to do during a stationary bike session

[@Kendal411]

Love to see some Boros beat down every once in a while. Also love LSV’s spirited defense of his boy (girl?) Lurrus. Edit: Little bit of trolling too lol.

[@Zii_Vii]

Alright you got me with that one rofl. I was thinking, maaaaan what?? LOL!

[@Princeofseance]

Lurrus fundamentally breaks the rule of the game. That's its power.

[@Urros]

Sicko had me with that Lurris swap 💀

[@tomsmith8395]

8:10 my wife had to ask me why i started randomly yelling while I was eating lunch.

[@Nightwishmaster]

Dang bro, how many wives do you have?

[@tomsmith8395]

@@Nightwishmaster damn typo, my whole good funny situation was ruined.

[@aaRonin47]

Loved this deck. Can you maybe once a week draft something simliar. Something that's easier to draft and pilot than Academy/Lurrus and so on. I love watching you play the difficult stuff too but I absolutely suck at piloting it for real :)

[@wpease7]

Bolt Swords Plateau PYROGOYF??? I just know this is boutta be an all-timer #borosgang

[@phl4423]

being a league game the life/death sequence was just funny.. and u can appreciate it.. imagine this being in a 64m vegas thing or even top8 .. uff.. that would be kinda wild ^^

[@Joel1031]

Man that Round 2 opponent was COOKING

[@jewpcabra666]

I'm surprised no thought for staff in final deck - fantastic with the dog, great with gut, adeline can trigger and redraw eventually.

[@Charlene-u6q]

Almost got me at the Containment Priest pick 😁

[@duffstrodamus3233]

The 2nd match, opponent's deck was so spicy.

[@memyself3510]

That golgari doomsday storm deck was..well, entertaining at least😂

[@IzzRei]

That last match was like the final boss of an RPG, ya’ll playing 2 different games

[@JapanischErfahren]

First to smoke the Boros pack

[@87539319]

thanks for the video!

[@ninjanoodle2674]

I like Lurrus, but I think the biggest issue I have with it is that it costs 6 mana to draw those 2 cards (3 to put Lurrus in hand and 3 to cast it). In grindy games it is really good as the opponent is basically required to keep a removal spell in hand to deal with it or risk having their other removal undone, and if they can't answer it then it can win the game with an avalanche of card advantage. On the flipside though, the cube has a lot of really impactful cards that can't be played in a Lurrus companion deck and sometimes you can lose even if you are up on cards just based on the fact that the opponent is playing more impactful threats.

[@martinzyka6432]

8:05 BAIT! :D he got me I have to say

[@brothertobias]

What a dope Game 2 deck.

[@kinginthenorth1437]

Is there a reason to take Prismatic Vista over Stomping Ground when the point was to add a green source to splash Pest Infestation?

[@Matthew19Vexthem]

Lurrus prank worked , cause we seen it so many times in so many decks. Rick rolled everyone lol

[@NathanCrandall-y8o]

Lmao I got got with that Lurrus deke

[@germanyjones2700]

13:54 Luis! You missed your 0 mana artifact that taps for mana!

[@yuiop608]

Why not evoke the fury then path it in the mana screw game? Too many resources given up?

[@davidhickey8613]

m2g1 world's best thoughtsieze

[@justinvamp15]

Game 1 was hilarious

[@bmckay33]

I think the first opponent was either unfamiliar with MODO or very drunk.

[@themorellonomicon2757]

That third match was essentialy Vintage constructed 😂

[@mitchhak2]

Should you have taken Lurrus and just maindecked it? Pretty strong card still. Is it better than containment priest in the main?

[@dizzzzy6]

12:02 wondering if diamond was considered here, maybe now retrospective of the cube season I feel like it’s a better pick than the 3 drop but I could be wrong

[@aronb.1273]

Match 3 game 3 turn 1 was brutal😭

[@jrjamesson]

any thought to lurrus in the maindeck? if containment priest hadn't been in that pack (or if you just felt you didn't need graveyard/sneak hate) seems like lurrus would be just fine as a maindeck threat. doesn't have to be all or nothing.

[@giancarlocafaro6734]

That’s a bit like saying you can just use time walk as an explore. If that’s all it’s ever going to be, it’s just not worth it.

[@leebosley5984]

Why on earth are the Rootwalla's in this Cube?? I thought this Cube was supposed to be heavily refined.

[@dementievatz]

There is a kind of bad Vengevine/Hogaak deck that can use them. They have some other synergies with discard stuff, but I don’t normally find them worth playing.

[@Blackadder75]

I could smell something fishy from a minor detail in his voice with the lurrus move, but I am not enough into modern day vintage cube to know where it was good or bad from a game mechanics point of view.

[@Azzaciel]

In R2G1 vs the B/G opponent, during the turn you drew Path, would it have been a viable play to have evoked fury to burn Sorin for 4 and then Path Fury for a guaranteed mountain for next turn? Or am I going too deep? I can see how opponent having removal in response could be a blowout, but the situation was pretty desperate.

[@bevrosity]

gut is great, but it hurt passing the mox diamond, especially since you mentioned that that was the only type of thing you were missing.

[@mulldrifterz6469]

Lurrus is good, no doubt. The reason people rage is you see it and you try to pivot into it way too late usually into the draft and draft a much weaker deck because you force Lurrus. Doesn't matter how much value Lurrus gets you if your deck is just playing mid cards to force it. Early Lurrus is totally reasonable, late Lurrus is not.

[@giancarlocafaro6734]

LSV has never given up more than like 2 picks for lurrus. People generally look at it in hindsight, blend picks together and think it was wrong because of picks after lurrus. I would be hard pressed to find a draft where lurrus wasn’t the correct decision at the time.

[@olliejb2758]

I would kill for the pov of round one opponent

[@jrjamesson]

in m2g1 a lot of "if I could have killed sorin" but you could have killed sorin, fury on him the turn you had when he was a creature. I guess you still would have lost to doomsday+thoracle though.

[@r00ster22]

I tune into my favorite MTG content creator and he drafts Boros and then trolls me with Lurrus baits. How much more abuse can I take? Probably a lot fun draft.

[@Kendal411]

That second round was ridiculous. Never lucky. Edit: the round 3 opponents deck was also ridiculous.

[@spooky_zen]

that lurrus bait lul

[@Mitch_Feral]

Why not Fury the Sorin when it was a creature, since you have nothing else going on? Feel like I'm missing something.

[@MrMe2459]

Karakas or Plateau in that spot?

[@markkelso871]

He would take karakas he just didn't think of it when giving examples. Karakas over anything but power or forth eorlingas

[@bmckay33]

If Containment Priest was not in the pack, would you have taken Lurrus?

[@Eebers]

You got me talking out loud to my screen begging you to not pick lurrus

[@Testchannel-hz4vf]

p1p1 Tinker seems better than Swords to Plowshares since it can win the game on turn 2/3, while plow at best 1:1s with mana advantage and is much more replaceable (especially with the current cube focus on cheap creatures, making removal spells more interchangeable)

[@flashjack711]

Not afraid to confess I was baited

[@ultimateo621]

Karakas would also probably be better than taking a plateau there

[@jorritdriessen5728]

Plateau also over Karakas? I disagree I think

[@dementievatz]

I was thinking same thing - he probably forgot Karakas in that moment.

[@Chainsawyou]

Fucking got me lmao

[@treyburro5525]

I feel like this deck failed at either having fast mana/power of course but also the curve being so light on beater 1 drops. I feel like you typically want about 4 1drops.

[@JohnSmith-cw5hs]

all time bamboozle

[@HaussVonHorne]

I got got. 😂

[@narfwhals7843]

Can you explain your lurrus limits? If the pick order had been slightly different, you'd have taken the lurrus and given up the possibility of taking those cards, and other powerful 3+ drops, later on. And you'd have then taken worse cards over the more expensive ones and not looked back. At what point is giving up past picks more important to you than giving up future potential?

[@TheeBuddylee]

Sometimes its right to play and not companion lurrus

[@goblinry]

Man, we really need the complaint fed to raise the interest rates, this market is flooded with bad beats.

[@WardAlexia-c9b]

Reinhold Square

[@lukaspaulus6408]

You Should Start getting away with it more often again. Maybe invite cheon for some good luck at some point?

[@Limkmc]

I think everyone can agree that white is the worst color in cube and green is the best, but what order are the other three in?

[@traycarrot]

What

[@Limkmc]

@@traycarrot oops I meant that the other way around

[@Dannerrrr]

Great fair deck! Too bad you were against unfair decks.

[@kristofferstalsett8880]

Why not mox diamond?

[@levantran9740]

I will admit to hating on Lurrus a lot, but if LSV says it's good then it's good lol.

[@trentjones5881]

Y’all go watch Lsv rate yugioh cards if they are banned or not. You can’t say this guy doesnt know the recipe for card games and what you can do to exploit certain ones!

[@barkerm9]

The aggro decks are too good in the cube. World class players playing against equal competition routinely force them and have outstanding win percentages. The threats are just much too powerful and mana efficient and make other win cons seem quaint.

[@bricelory9534]

I totally respect Lurrus and understand the theory behind its strength. I just think the cost vs benefit needs to be re-evaluated in this current iteration of the Cube: both in terms of speed and draft picks. A lot of historically busted cards are seeing their role diminished because of the speed of the Cube and high-impact 3 drops, etc. (imagine a few years ago saying Jace was commonly a mid-pick!) I think there are plenty of times Lurrus is worth, but it comes at a higher cost these days - the 3 mana tax is more now than it used to be, and permanents in general have gotten so much better across the board. I am not convinced that generic value-Lurrus decks wouldn't be better if they were drafted with Lurrus main board then see what you lose if you companion it. Obviously, if you have specific combos and synergies, Lurrus companioned is warranted. My main question is in terms of straight value, less synergistic decks.

[@JDubsCCGsOnline]

8:23 I was so audibly confused my roommates came to check on me. Good one LSV.