Spinning the Wheel(s) Of Fortune | Vintage Cube

[@LSVargas]

Apologies for the sound issues - I’ve been working on eliminating all those, and it’s better in subsequent videos. Cheers!

[@zzafrica87]

thank u👌

[@Whatah11]

what is the "thump-thump-thump-thump" sound is that jules dog?

[@immabreakaleg]

smb playing jumanji

[@martinzyka6432]

the "I'm gonna draft very carefully and responsibly, end up with a 2:1 black white midrange" phase is over. the good ol "pls LED pleeeease" LSV is back in town. 10/10. thank you

[@thomasalley3121]

Lol for realz. He started drafting green and went on a losing streak too.

[@WIlsonFisher42]

The velocity LSV sat up in his chair when he saw Hullbreacher broke the sound barrier

[@TheCrAzYfox2332]

Literal clap of thunder as he sat up

[@colin3217]

what is that pounding sound?

[@jamesmcglough5985]

That ending was class. just fyi i listened with headphones and it sounded like someone was constantly banging on a wall or something. Kids being kids? :-)

[@sjake8308]

I think it's dogs being dogs.

[@ZeroIsEven]

Im guessing the banging noise is the wagging of a dogs tail against the desk? That’s what my imagination says.

[@codetaku]

Yeah it was weird being picked up on the mic the whole video, definitely made me go "huh?" and look around my room a couple times

[@JBH2989]

i'm guessing it was LSV bouncing his knee and it happened to get picked up on the mic this time. i also fidget like that sometimes when i'm at my desk. he probably didn't even realize he was doing it

[@1brushstudio]

This was driving me nuts, and I ended up muting the vid several times before figuring it was on LSV's end.

[@anttimtolonen4741]

Yeah.. I was considering both of these myself as well. It is pretty bad when you notice it. :|

[@lesternomo6578]

@@JBH2989 yea sometimes i will be bouncing my knee and my friends in vc will ask "whats that sound its so loud" and eventually i realize it's me even though I can't hear it at all

[@sqrlmonger]

49:22 - Sadly, you do not get 2 treasures per draw since hullbreacher is a replacement effect. In short, the "instead" language means one of them replaces the draw event with the creation of a treasure before the other one can do it.

[@smellyleopardd]

Hi LSV, your content is great. I love the insights during draft and the games. However I wonder if you are aware how often your mic movement causes a very present drumming sound. Maybe you can look into it and solve the issue. Wish you a happy day.

[@sjake8308]

I think it might actually be his dog, but yeah, I'll periodically wonder the neighbours are doing before realising the banging noise is coming from the video. XD

[@burtreynoldz6308]

bang bang bang bang bang

[@jazzfestyz9734]

I know I'm addicted to these videos when i start refreshing my sub box at 1:00 EST on the dot

[@jonsalvadori6275]

Thought it was just me. Best mtg content out there. Everyone else isn't as good at either magic itself or "how to stream."

[@ProductionsPogo]

@@jonsalvadori6275his ability to explain his choices while playing near flawless magic is what makes me keep coming back

[@sjake8308]

@@jonsalvadori6275 Almost certainly the best MTG content right now, though I still believe Greg Hatch made the best ever.

[@alexanderdickens2517]

You know, 6-person drafts generally speaking have almost never been represented in Magic videos prior to the Showdowns, and now more in-depth in your videos. The “slightly different tenor” between 8 and 6 you mention here is something the consistency of these videos has shed major light on for a lot of people I think. Your commentary in the 6-person ones is so different, more about wheeling and the packs feel more like a sealed pool for it. It’s really neat!

[@Vanguard187]

Can you chill out with the banging sounds?

[@Entropic_Alloy]

That game 1 with the billion lands was brutal.

[@jeffgraham3201]

Leovold into drawing wheel was pretty funny

[@marxman6896]

Man, that may be the worst draws I've ever seen in a single round. Genuinely drew 20 lands in 2 games.

[@thesnipedinthehead]

@@marxman6896 I find lately, he's had so many draws like that. He had a deck with 15 lands and he drew like 14 of them! It's brutal!

[@epi1763]

Loving the lore on the players as these progress

[@Schelome]

Been loving the videos! I assume these were prerecorded because of the pro tour, but just for future reference there is some vibration going on with the microphone causing some annoying noise. :) By no means a dealbreaker, but maybe something you could adjust?

[@sjake8308]

I think it's probably his dog, but yeah, it would be nice if LSV & Gaby could fix this for future videos! XD

[@brandonowen1069]

lol in the last Salvatto game you could have burst lightning your hullbreacher then cast wheel to win on the spot

[@TolkiCasts]

There's a regular tapping sound with the microphone, any clue where it came from?

[@ants-eriknoormagi5525]

There is some noise coming I think from the mic moving or something thats a bit annoying. Otherwise great vid as always!

[@chrismontgomery7583]

The things that LSV can do with these Decks that he drafts is just completely out of my league of understanding. I've been watching him for well more than a decade now and I don't think I'm particularly bad at Magic. It's just you know he drafted a busted deck but then you have no idea that he could go infinite match 2. Still the best in the business after so many years it's crazy.

[@Vermilio893]

1:12:45 couldn't you have played hullbreacher and LED crack for red discarding your hand into jace flip flashback wheel there?

[@justinbrown4607]

lol your vigorous foot tapping bounces your camera. Killer deck ::)

[@Shemhazai7]

dude i'm addicted to these drafts

[@cyruslyday9112]

Sandydog has to feel so good that you talk him up every episode lol

[@ContainsIt]

Opponent casting Leovold as he draws Wheel of Fortune... I swear no one has mastered the art of comedically timed draws quite like LSV.

[@PeaceItUp]

That Green Red Black deck in the last round was probably my favorite green based deck I've seen with this iteration of the cube!

[@markvanvelzen7559]

Is there any chance that the low pitch banging the mic is picking up during pack 1 is a wagging dog tail that is hitting the desk? It's really noticable on my setup.

[@sjake8308]

A lot of folks have been complaining about it, but yeah, I assume it's his dog.

[@peewee0224]

is that his dog making that thumping sound? lol

[@rgholmes9481]

These drafts have been amazing to watch, but whatever that thumping sound was throughout the entire video nearly made it unwatchable for me. Very sick deck, though.

[@freedortch9278]

@43:35 To make it even more unlikely, you only won because you decided to pay for the mana vault. Had you taken 1 more point of damage, you wouldn't have been able to win with rolling earthquake.

[@dennisbradford7216]

Absolutely sick deck and very cool games! 49:21 - Unfortunately making a second copy of Hullbreacher with Kiki-Jiki won't cause you to create twice as many treasure tokens. It's a replacement effect that replaces the card draw with creating a token, so the second instance of that replacement effect won't apply. Also, there was a slight thumping sound throughout the video, as though you were bouncing your leg and shaking the table. I found it a little distracting. Other people might not be bothered. Idk.

[@ThePhazedOut]

I think it's the dog making that noise.

[@modestbukowski]

Something is close the microphone and you are tapping something. Finger, foot? Or is it your kid running on the floor above you? lol

[@scottlewis5521]

loved the video, but what the heck was that god awful sound the entire time? was that the mic bouncing??? thought it was like a child running upstairs or something.

[@joseazevedo3432]

Are you doing laundry? What the hell is that constant bumping noise? It is very annoying and distracting.

[@tommasomagnoli2830]

I want a podcast about vintage cube with the sandiest of dogs as a special guests

[@G.Aaron.Fisher]

Leovold is such a strong card. I can't remember the last time he hit the board and wasn't relevant.

[@Leovold]

I dont think I've watched an LSV draft without him burping. 😅

[@voronovychda]

being not confident enough to draft these kind of decks it sure is marvel to witness this in action. :chefs_kiss:

[@noblejernigan8337]

LSV great video and thank you for the regular uploads. Just an FYI there was a thudding sound near the end which may have been your leg bouncing (I do it all the time without thinking about it). Either way the mic picked it up a bit. But still great video and I’m loving the hull breacher love lately

[@sjake8308]

It's been like this in several of his videos now.

[@nmay21122112]

never really watched vintage play , been loving the drafts! this is the coolest and most interesting deck ive seen, sooo sweet

[@EastWindCommunity1973]

Just finished watching one of these from four years ago! Sick storm deck and a salty rope out, even.

[@EastWindCommunity1973]

Both decks/drafts had freeze, tendrils (game winner in old one), led, time twister, dark ritual...

[@koopk1]

thump thump thump

[@griffenrobinette3944]

I wonder what everyone who passed hullbreacher into echo into twister were thinking. They had to KNOW someone was going to have it all

[@seanhutt4621]

Just hoping it's their teammate

[@Dimpl739]

When would you go for dark depths? Only the lands deck?

[@NatePrawdzik]

Luis, there's an old border Urza available online.

[@joshdarnit69lol]

LSV- "IDK Why Hullbreacher isn't in the actual cube" *Proceeds to make it look like the most broken card in history*

[@zecaveira1]

That’s the idea of Vintage Cube, right? To play the most powerful cards

[@michaeldegrave5905]

I think it originally got taken out because it was bugged, but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be back now.

[@dsnein]

Honestly hullbreacher when you don’t play with the same people you draft with stinks. You’ll wind up playing against it with your draw 7s. I really think cross pod play for a cube is a net negative

[@michaeldegrave5905]

@@dsnein The upsides of playing in pod is so utterly dwarfed by the flexibility and time savings of playing cross pod. They offer in pod drafts and they're very unpopular compared to the league.

[@dsnein]

@@michaeldegrave5905 This may surprise you, but even after completely understanding the pros and cons of mtgo cube and having played it since it debuted in 2012 and up to this day, I abide my opinion that same pod offers a much better gameplay experience. I am not missing any information you've offered.

[@hansenchrisw]

“What nonsense” is usually said about one’s opponent’s topdecks rather than one’s own. 😂

[@cjsaguini3571]

Hullbreacher is such an insane card and you piloted the deck to perfection. Great video, one of my favourites from the ones you posted lately.

[@naphackDT]

At the end I was internally screaming at you for even considering making a token to block when that token can double your potential attack power if you draw a mountain the next turn.

[@jonf3090]

the foot tapping/leg shaking returns... ugh

[@forthedream3027]

the thumping noise is irritating, but the video is great

[@sjake8308]

That ending was peak LSV. XD

[@neil9525]

Match 2, game 2, any thought of Kiki before bowmaster, copying hullbreacher and then going off again with echo?

[@g.n.s.]

Awesome video as always, LSV! What would your opinion be on adding a card like “Lab Maniac” to this particular cube? In my opinion it seems a little easier to use than a few of the cards that you’d mentioned wanting to see “go.”

[@danielhall9050]

I think Thassa's oracle fills a similar role and has utility in other decks so that might be why lab maniac isn't in the cube

[@michaeloconnor3542]

LSV, first, thank you so much for the cube draft content! Secondly, does being so consist in the type of decks you draft, lead to any thoughts of being predictable to opponents or feeling lackadaisical/bored when you dont open certain first and second picks? Like, do you ever think, "next time I open a mox emerald, I am making a green deck."

[@Anusien]

I was hoping game 1 you’d be able to cast a draw7 into your Hullbreacher + their Leo so neither of you end up with any cards.

[@nitzillaproductionstheanyt7929]

It was so adorable how quickly LSW perked up when he saw Hullbreacher.

[@dasfabelwesen]

You only get one treasure with 2 hullbreachers, since it replaces the draw effect and then there is no draw effect afterwards.

[@seantigre]

excited to watch! hope a numot vs lsv or maybe a team up vid in the future:) thanks for the content

[@motgalaxy8798]

Do you play poker/other betting games? I notice a lot of the terminology and a couple eps ago you referenced you very much were a gambling man.

[@yogarip]

Love your videos man. i just love them. keep'm coming. :P

[@Waghabond]

wow what a broken deck, with some broken draw luck to back it up. I don't see anyone in the pod even having a chance of beating this if you had the underworld breach.

[@Rhystic_Buddy]

You were BOUNCING your leg all video man that was so distracting to me for some reason lol

[@sadfsdafsdfasdfasdfs]

Real Rolling Earthquake

[@zivkobabz]

That deck was absolutely nuts!

[@kukuc96]

Rolling Earthquake to 0 and 1 hp. Nice.

[@marq_8976]

Are all cards always unique for each draft? So is each card only opened once?

[@AVietnameseKid]

What's with the constant thumping noise in the background?

[@brothertobias]

That deck was quite a performer.

[@marcogoncalves3207]

Amazing content.

[@zachr93]

I'm surprised more draft formats haven't popped up. I think something like 4 teams of 2 (instead of the normal 2 teams of 4) would be really cool. Could even add a little spice to where you and your duo partner could communicate while drafting.

[@TolkiCasts]

Could work with teams drafting together 2 cards each time!

[@douglaspintor]

if lsv had one land on the deck in match one he still would have drawn a dozen of them

[@hamishfox]

Pasta flames seems unplayable now that underworld breach is a card

[@sjake8308]

Was it ever good in cube?

[@jakelink1482]

I don't understand the logic of running that many lands, with other mana accelerants. An all land/mana accelerant hand is 99% as bad as a landless hand. 1 mana and 6 mana hands also awful. 2 mana though? With all those wheels and cheap spells he likes to run? That's golden. 5 mana is garbage though, way to often you'll have multiple lands on top with not nearly enough action. It simply can't be mathematically the best choice to run that much mana. Consider at 50+% mana 1 in 8 games your top 3 cards are lands. That's 1 in 8 you're losing before you even start because you're seeing no action until turn 4, any disruption of your starting 7 at all, in the form of mulligans, grief duress, clique and you may as well resign. None of this includes the fact that 90+% of his decks are low curve, he often plays many cantrips and he has many situationally useful cards. All of these factors further reduce how many lands you should or can afford to play.

[@sjake8308]

Basically if you start playing accelerants instead of lands, they stop being accelerants because you're now missing land drops more frequently. There's a lot of nuance here, though.

[@MarkAvo]

When LSVs luck is humming he seems unbeatable.

[@1brushstudio]

LSV = luck + skill -> victory

[@Fi4z]

please stop kicking your desk.

[@G.Aaron.Fisher]

34:46 This reasoning doesn't quite hold. Thinning a triome from your deck provides exactly the same draw power as cycling it if you happen to draw it.

[@jakelink1482]

You search a triome and draw a basic vs you search a basic then draw a triome, which you can cycle. How are these the same?

[@notorioezz]

A deck has 4 cards left in it. A triome, a basic and 2 spells. Option 1: You search a triome which leaves you with a 1 in 3 chance to draw that basic the very next upkeep which then leaves you with the 2 spells you can't acces. Option 2: You fetch the basic which leaves you with the same 1 in 3 chance to draw that triome except if you do, now you can cycle to get to 1 of the 2 spells left. And there you have it.

[@kungfupandaluver6919]

Hullbreacher actually gross here

[@MarylandBF]

This deck is flames 🔥

[@everythingmainecooncat4938]

That was a fun draft!

[@razlotan7504]

And he's spinning the wheeeeel

[@martinphillips2461]

Thst deck was funny and good! So dilly at times.

[@goldcobraarima9819]

Day 11 of asking LSV to draft a Channel+Eureka deck.

[@leanderthal1138]

Think you’re unlikely to see that in a team draft

[@ultimateo621]

Drafting green in cube 🤢

[@ApShagster]

Le No

[@Gobblesthepatient]

NERF BLUE ADD ALLOSAURUS SHEPARD TO THE CUBE FOR SB

[@jordankirby7632]

​​@@Gobblesthepatientthey did nerf blue, they put wake thrasher in instead of a good card.

[@formwithoutcontent]

Love your videos, but the constant thumping noise in this one was hard to ignore.

[@hamishfox]

39:00 that game ....

[@hamishfox]

Pallis jailer is busted

[@ContainsIt]

he's baAAAaack.

[@MrBurnsyboy12]

Is this one AlphaFrog's cube?

[@jantmoen]

Thank you!

[@Curt-ze6hl]

Kenji when?

[@irifhir]

Engagement

[@roarmalf]

A couple hours after I comment on Kenji's cube video that he should have prioritized draw 7s as soon as he got Hullbreacher, you draft this masterpiece. Cheff's Kiss.

[@RPG_Bliss]

🍩

[@gawrysiak100]

1:12:30 i see a win anyone?

[@rekenner]

Land, Breacher, LED, crack LED, flip JVP, flashback Wheel? That's a pretty sick line, yeah

[@harmonicjelyfish8852]

Was pestermite ever drawn? That's absolutely wild with the amount of wheels

[@joeymecoy7455]

yeah match 2 against alphafrog but he wheeled right after drawing it

[@sjake8308]

I honestly thought the twin combo looked really loose in that deck, but Kiki actually came in clutch several times!

[@harmonicjelyfish8852]

@@sjake8308 I'm not sure how loose it was really, just seemed unfortunate to never see perstermite. Imagine if the frequency of drawing hullbreacher and pestermite were switched, he got hullbreacher like every game!

[@ultimateo621]

No breach was disappointing

[@yawgmoththeineffable8660]

Taking Empty the Warrens over Epicure seemed strange considering you wanted discard for Echo a already had Brain Freeze. Great draft and matches anyway.

[@notorioezz]

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HIM HE NEEDS TO STOP TAPPING HIS KNEES UNDERNEATH THE DESK FROM STRESS.. djeezus dude.. watch your own videos and just listen.. It's an annoying tick

[@1brushstudio]

That mic is just set up to be way, way too sensitive. Another recent vid was straight torment with sniffles, gulping and beard scratches ad nauseam.

[@notorioezz]

@@1brushstudio yeah, any more sensitive and you'd hear the spiders in the room yelling "add Ishkanah to the cube!!"

[@grnman86]

“How many storm cards are you going to cast ?” Yes.

[@thorstonk6348]

Oh yeah

[@pawsgerby]

did hullbreacher make it into the cube over narset, parter of veils? such a brutal interaction

[@lucasmccord5147]

I believe he had both in a previous draft