Double The Moxes, Double The Fun | Vintage Cube Draft

[@clintUofR08]

To this day, LSV is just about to take a land. Any minute now. For real, the next land we see...

[@Vermilio893]

Incredible foresight on LSV's part to avoid taking all those duels considering that game 2

[@trentjones5881]

Thank you Lsv for all you do! Knowing every day at noon there will be some quality mtg cube action is awesome for the folks who can’t play anymore but like having the entertainment! Keep cranking out the content it’s badass seeing your channel go for a few thousand to tens of thousands in such a short time.

[@Hopkins0316]

My favorite/least favorite thing LSV does in drafting is "man I hope I get lands" Next pack: 2 lands he wants. Him: "hmmm let's take this nonland" lol

[@rodrigoarcher2938]

dont get me started with the ''if i draw whatever card i can def turn this around and w....ohhhh draw myself a time walk'' lmao

[@Promatim]

The Ignoble I get, because it taps for black and accelerates, but the Chariot pick had my eyes popping out of their sockets.

[@r2dezki]

I swear he's trolling with these picks

[@mtgpackrat7945]

I love that 7 drop Nissa. Severely underrated.

[@kkpratt]

It was really hard to watch premium duals go by in order to take our 26th and 27th playables.

[@Jos_V]

I'm surprised at how low LSV is picking lands these last couple of drafts, it used to be he'd pick duals a lot higher, and his mana bases have really suffered for it. is this an artifact of team drafting, but i don't know if the lsv of a year ago would have passed trop and bayou .

[@leebosley5984]

His mana dorks helped fix and he only really went two-colors here.

[@andymion]

I've been thinking this for a while as well. I miss the LSV that would care about "being able to cast his spells". And then the constant "I could use some lands" mid pack 3 these last few weeks, usually after passing a bunch of them. Sorry, you dug your own grave there Luis.

[@mylesrobinson6513]

I think a part of the logic might be that there are more lands (including fetchable lands) than there used to be e.g. triomes. So it feels like you can get lands later, even though they aren't as good as the original duals. I could see that it might have gone too far the other way though and lands are not valued as highly as they should be at the moment.

[@kkpratt]

It wasn't that he "went" 2-colors. He was forced to cut strong black cards because he didn't have the mana to support them.

[@thomasstone3480]

one of these days i'm gonna figure out how to open these without seeing the title so i can have no idea of what's coming

[@jaceee4154]

Im waiting for the day the thumbnail is just flat out wrong lmao

[@andrewwatts6974]

Same​@@jaceee4154

[@koalaofdoom]

One of the older German magic sites used to do that. No preview, and they'd also always have the videos be 2 hours, so you can't see how well they do/how fast it goes. I much prefer that to the thumbnails. Where's the fun in knowing exactly what to expect?

[@mtgjrod7760]

Every day I open KZbin around this time, close my eyes before it loads, tap where the newest video will be, swipe up to scroll past the title and comments, open my eyes, maximize the video. Works like 70% of the time.

[@Sidnv]

@@koalaofdoom Unfortunately, the youtube algorithm is pretty unfavorable to artificially inflating video length, so that practice has gone out of favor. I liked it too.

[@almogdov]

LSV with 15 basics in a cube. What a world

[@moaf2padventures757]

great point about decent-ish 1 toughness creatures like skydiver and rec sage becoming really great when you already have skullclamp.

[@tylercousens3467]

LSV drafting a badass green stompy deck is awesome! It reminds me of the good ol' cube days when he would 1st pick 'windmill slam' a sulfuric vortex or goblin guide and force mono red

[@roarmalf]

Really solid deck, I enjoy watching the beat down every once in a while.

[@fjordojustice]

I feel like match 1 against Tom counted as bullying. Tapping out for big artifacts vs oops! all disenchants.

[@geefron]

40:20 shout out to Mini-Jace

[@phelandiller4066]

Shoulda been in the thumbnail

[@jobu71x]

I love that there was a potential play of thieving skydiver a blightsteel

[@danielhall9050]

Skull clamp over reprive, top 50 list is in shambles rn

[@josephbilling3886]

I hope LSV puts some more respect on nissa acended animist after this draft. I feel like he sleeps on that card a lot and I think its really good

[@filiphajduk1580]

Liking the new hair style. In one of the next video tell us about your favorite trophies in the background. Keep up the great content!

[@jordancaldwell2208]

LSV: "If I drew the othe-" *Draws his 2nd Mox* Day 513: LSV has surpassed predicting his draws and is now telepathically communicating with his deck.

[@codetaku]

I'm actually surprised they haven't errata'd currency converter yet, because as-worded it actually should let you put opponents' cards into your graveyard if you steal it lol. Should say "Put a card *you* exiled with Currency Converter into your graveyard." Since there shouldn't be a way to exile opponents' cards that way. Alternatively, they could make the card slightly more powerful to steal than what it currently is, and change the text to "Put a card exiled with Currency Converter into its owner's graveyard."

[@JonaxII]

That's just in the longer background text. You can try to put that opponent card into your yard all you want, the game rules just won't do it and won't let you activate. Like how you can try and draw cards from your graveyard all you want because "brainstorm doesn't specify from where to draw", but the rules just won't let you. Unless you cheat, obviously.

[@jainabraina]

Per CR, If you try to put a card you don't own in your graveyard, it goes to its owner's graveyard instead.

[@Anusien]

@@JonaxIIputting the card into the graveyard is part of the effect, not the cost. You can activate it.

[@holobiont3197]

I am looking forward to seeing this 60% mana sources deck in action.

[@bricelory9534]

Now this is a mana deck! Well done!

[@gragrim]

I mean, LSV getting beat by gut.. what a gut-shot

[@nobodyhere22500]

My favorite thing to do on Saturday night is watch LSV build a deck with 23 slots in a 40 card deck dedicated to lands/early mana and then do a shot whenever he complains about flooding. 🍹

[@bricelory9534]

When he said he was good with effectively 18 lands, I sighed.

[@ericfgaming]

I think rule 400.3 means you can use currency converter on cards you don't own, and as a replacement effect they will go to the correct graveyard, amd tou still get the bonus.

[@JonaxII]

That generally applies to resolving abilities, tho. From 602.2 we can see that activating an ability if you can't pay the cost simply doesn't work, and we can't pay the cost of putting an opponents' card into our graveyard, because it just can't be put there. A bit like that Narset/Sylvan Library interaction.

[@Anusien]

@@JonaxIIputting the card into the graveyard is not part of the cost.

[@Nathan-wq6uj]

46:15 Juulz, Stellar Pup!

[@georgea4124]

Any consideration for Aluren in the cube? There are a lot of interesting

[@daa0]

Great vid! Where can I find your cube list? Is it the LSVCube list on Cubecobra? I see it has more than the usual 540 cards, I don't know if that is right or it is not properly updated. Thanks for the content!

[@folkesverdrupnygren5073]

59:15, LSV shows the restraint of a true professional 🤌

[@AlmostSkillfull]

If this isn't a craterhoof deck then what is exactly? Only ever natural order?

[@dcsmoot]

Is it moxen or moxes? (semi) serious question.

[@todcharlie1168]

Could easily wheel the green cards and taken the lands in pack 3

[@andrewjames4786]

Passing Demonic Tutor is crazy

[@justineells7518]

"I really want a few more lands"...passes every land. Lol 🤦‍♂️

[@Anusien]

He’s just playing around Winds of Abandon.

[@matke743]

Taking that Chariot over Bayou with million threats already, where is LSV and what did you do to him? xD

[@swampybwoy]

5:22 here here here in the

[@newscoulomb3705]

No one ever respects Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy without Basalt Monolith, even when running 7 non-land mana producers. I think I'd run it over Cobra in this deck.

[@Moxadonis]

Where's Opposition in the cube?

[@stefanvitale4850]

Solid video

[@andrewstephan7700]

"man i really need some lands" proceeds to take all spells... 🤦

[@MarkChaney-b8k]

Lsv hating rock colors hurts my soul lol

[@corysicard5929]

badlands over EWit when you have skullclamp!?!??!

[@turbobrew]

Chariot over dual land 🤡

[@mattwilliamsonguitar]

Not playing Craterhoof with that much mana coming from creatures makes me sad

[@Kendal411]

If hoof can't even make it in a deck like this, then maybe it's time to put the old guy out to pasture.

[@danielhall9050]

He's ok with natural order, the only other good targets are Atraxa and maybe woodfal primus @@Kendal411

[@Pedun42]

@@Kendal411 It might have just been a blind spot for LSV, earmarking the card for natural order only in his brain or something

[@Anusien]

He said that he didn’t think he made enough mana to cast it.

[@mattwilliamsonguitar]

​​@@Anusien I guess I just disagree with that logic. He had four 1cmc mana dorks, a lotus cobra, Nissa, and double mox. Hoof isn't like 10+ mana, it's 8. It's weird that Atraxa is considered castable at 7 with 4 colored pips but Craterhoof isn't at 8 and mono color (yes triple green is rough but not for this deck).

[@michaelhuston9694]

Woot

[@the1bmc1]

It’s been a while since we’ve seen Sandy dog in a pod. Is he ok?

[@subtleknife1]

I won a local RCQ today with 27 lands esper legends and it kinda felt like I was cheating. When >10 of your lands are also relevant spells (often costing 1-2 mana) it feels like you’ve gamed the system a bit.

[@GPEGEMGTM3]

Some of lsv’s decks are just asking to have flooded draws…

[@Mr.BigNate]

Second

[@666Metalbassist]

First

[@cesarramon4636]

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[@dougisacat]

I was screaming at my phone, take the darkslick take the dark slick, and as much as I want noble like, u sea is better there imo

[@dougisacat]

Omg he just passed the bayou…. I CANT

[@subtol]

painful draft, this deck could have been so much better with some land picks :[

[@briank6795]

Too fast

[@thegrindfather]

only reason to NOT pick DT is...................there are none, either you use it or u hate pick it always, not angry, just disappointed

[@Zii_Vii]

Man I hear what you've been saying on the land grant topic for a while now, but the truth is the card is the mid af and in most cases, a useless card, let alone something you would actively pick. I hear you, I really do. The last 12 times you said it. But it just doesn't do anything. At best it's a land drop and at worst it's completely unplayable.

[@thomasstone3480]

yeah what larger utility could there be from a free spell that fixes your colors and is a land drop you can pitch to force of vigor or endurance

[@phelandiller4066]

​@@thomasstone3480Also free spell for storm fringe upsidd

[@Zii_Vii]

@@thomasstone3480 I hear you, just like I heard lsv. Those scenarios DO exist, but you're looking at it in a vacuum instead of in the vintage cube. Besides, it rarely does any of the shit your describing. You cut this for Llanowar elves 99% of the time. Somehow vault+key isn't good enough, but land grant+endurance is? Cmon now.

[@thomasstone3480]

it's not competing for a slot with elves it's competing with a basic

[@LSVargas]

I don’t understand - compare this to basic forest and it’s usually not close (though does depend on the deck)

[@StarksCards]

LSV' o Clock ⏰️ ✨️

[@fatdogwiggle]

watching you pass those lands is painful