LTT - E018 - What the Bible Says about Meeting in a Home

[@weldonsmith5047]

This is indeed a topic worth discussing! Tom Wadsworth had a series on KZbin that you guys would enjoy, where he studies the practices of the 1st century churches. Being that he has no background in meetings or even in a house church, his assessments about the 1st churches often meeting in homes are so interesting because he has no baggage to bring into the topic. He makes an awesome point: at that time, when temple worship was the norm (for Jews and also for pagans who had their own special places for worship), meeting in someone’s house highlighted that the new temple was within the believers and there was no longer any special place you had to go in order for your worship to be acceptable! In meetings, we have turned a house on Sunday morning into a kind of temporary temple, when originally that practice may have emphasized that there are no special places anymore and it doesn’t matter where you get together. A perspective I genuinely had never thought of as a meeting goer, and seems to align with the New Testament teaching that our bodies are now Temples.

[@preppedforeternityhomestea2848]

i watched all 7 or 8 hours, and you are right he is top notch

[@anthonyh2231]

Yes! The infrastructure to meet at the time was not set in stone, it was evolving, perfect!

[@briceerickson3117]

Given the 2x2 ministry often depending on region and origin story, claimed being a direct descendant of the first century church. Tom Wadsworths series here on KZbin regarding his research into what early church assembly practices where , is quite interesting.

[@MollieHindley-sl1uy]

This episode reminded me of reading about Jesus as a Rabbi a few months ago. Here’s a brief exert that I found helpful about Jesus as a Rabbi and his ministry- ‘the itinerating rabbi was the norm, rather than the exception. There were hundreds and perhaps thousands of such rabbis circulating in the land of Israel in Jesus’ day. These rabbis did not hesitate to travel to the smallest of the villages or the most remote parts of the land. They would often conduct their classes in the village square or out under a tree (Safrai, ibid, 965). In some instances, classes would be conducted in someone’s home. Often these classes were small. The rabbis did not hesitate to teach as few as four or five students. According to custom, one could not charge for teaching the Scriptures, so the itinerant rabbi was dependent upon the hospitality and generosity of the community. Many rabbis carried their food with them - a pouch of meal and a few olives. From such they subsisted, not wanting to be a burden to their host. The rabbi’s stay in the community might last from only a few days to weeks, or even months. However, for the long term student (“disciple”), learning from a rabbi meant traveling, since the rabbi was always moving from place to place. If one wanted to learn from a rabbi, one had to “follow after him.”’ www.biblescholars.org/2013/05/study-shows-jesus-as-rabbi.html

[@prairiesky1144]

Have just started listening to this episode , and maybe you address this later on, but the question that occurred to me is: Why would people who were raised to go to the Jerusalem Temple and Synagogue to worship, start to meet in homes to worship? What was happening at that time in history that may have caused them to change where they worshipped? Those people who were the early Christian church were eventually severely persecuted and no longer welcomed in the Synagogue and Temple worship services. Worshipping in homes came about after that. I've not found any verses that proclaim that worshipping in homes is the only correct place to meet to worship. Thank you for your study and research and for sharing that information.

[@anthonyh2231]

You hit the nail on the head! They set themselves up for idol worship! Their idols are the way they do things and the worker's! Not all of the friend's and workers of course but I believe a large % if not most.

[@OldBiscuit54]

Forsake not the gathering together

[@bethanyfaber2012]

Of course! But that did not take place exclusively in homes in the NT church, nor must it in the Church today. Would you agree?

[@OldBiscuit54]

​@@bethanyfaber2012 I think you (y'all) are rebellious in nature.....you rebel against structure and rules and any restrictions....but that is just a guess....God does have rules....yes he does and always has....that is certainly something for you to think about.... "So often I would have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings but you would not".....we all are rebellious by nature of course.....yes we are....sort of like a speed limit of 70 so we drive 75...yup

[@OldBiscuit54]

Question: do y'all just exist to criticize "the truth" or do y'all criticize other organizations.....and DO YOU HAVE SCRIPTURE to back up YOUR beliefs....and what are YOUR beliefs?

[@rileykent8470]

They both left “the truth” before many of the evil acts of leadership had been exposed. Many of us that were raised in “the truth” began asking questions and searching for answers since the beginning of 2023. Dave and Marty filled a much needed place of information, interviews of exiting members, and review of doctrine through scripture. To criticize them because they aren’t criticizing other religions is like criticizing an algebra teacher for not teaching about calculus, geometry, English or chemistry. They are helping those who are in a similar position with the knowledge they have from the same experience. Jesus is Lord, King of Kings, and He died so we could have salvation through him, not through our own works or through the church structure we choose.

[@jon_14_6]

"Do they have scripture". Have you not been listening, its all about reading and UNDERSTANDING the scripture

[@OldBiscuit54]

@jon_14_6 I have been listening!!!.....I hear criticisms of "a cult" but I hear very little of their beliefs about SERVING THE MOST HOLY GOD, MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE WHICH HE CREATED

[@Cowperw]

​@@OldBiscuit54 You can worship God practically anywhere and anytime. Without the rules, there's not alot to say.

[@bethanyfaber2012]

@OldBiscuit54 First, you may find it helpful to start by watching the very first episode of the podcast where they outline the purpose of this podcast. Next, there are a couple episodes (3 and 5) where they discuss what the Bible says about who Jesus is and what the Gospel is. For more on what they believe individually, I recommend you check out their individual interview episodes. And last but not least, David has some excellent teaching videos where he discusses topics like "Can You Lose Your Salvation" and parallels between the Garden of Eden and the cross. I'm confident you can find all the info you desire in those videos...if you need help finding them, let me know and I'm happy to help!