Struggling with Strive Mechanics - A Legacy Slayer's Experience

[@shatterthineekey]

god there is something special about your main being fun to play in three different games and all of them having rollback

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Perfect series

[@MessengerOfEntertainment]

Must be nice. 🥹

[@imarock.7662]

Guilty Gear is just GOATed like that

[@SmoothieGamesLambda]

Cries in answer main

[@partybreakertf2]

10/10 game would confirm 5P into 6H again

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Funny gatlings

[@breakaway4236]

Bruh that Axl Bomber CH at 5:15 was special, never seen that trajectory before in my 1000 hours of playtime. Even crazier that my man picked that shit up too.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

The dude was hype he told me after

[@hatsuzukikai]

Yeah i made that shit up on the fly it was sick

[@LucidButtonMasher]

@hatsuzukikai LMAO

[@Kahi42]

This combo only worked because of brc. Also depending on where you are, bombah can sometimes launch you backwards. @ 5:15, that only worked bc Slayer was slightly above axl (for some reason, axl being above you also does that) I’ve been practicing brc bombah combos so that’s why i know also sick combo tho (hi hatsu)

[@cafequente8252]

We love the raging dandy

[@LucidButtonMasher]

It's quite the move

[@land_distant]

the DANDY demon

[@jgblkshot8375]

Slayer truly is, and always will be, one of the fighting game characters of all time

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Can't deny that

[@liamout]

it's been a joy watching you get better at strive 🐒

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Slowly but surely

[@sophiebubbles07]

One time a Slayer player got me stuck in a c.S > f.S loop and there was nothing I could do. This is why I love Strive.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Sounds about right

[@thederranged8556]

Hey Lucid, I’ve been taking a pretty long break from fighting games to focus on college, but after Slayer dropped in Strive I’ve been practicing with him and playing with friends new and old, and so far it’s been a blast. Getting over my old muscle memory was a bitch, but learning the new combos has been surprisingly fun and having true crossplay with rollback is a fucking blessing. Keep mashing and maybe one day I’ll catch one of your streams again and have another go at the monke man himself!

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Hell glad you're back on that horse. Keep it up bud and enjoy

[@legodawg2001]

They should keep Slayer exactly how he is in Strive if only for the sheer joy this man gets from playing the character. That’s a man who loves some good ass guilty gear right there

[@LucidButtonMasher]

I don't think they'll nerf him right

[@waluigimourner8071]

@LucidButtonMasher​ The only thing that sticks out to me as something he might lose is the variable frame advantage on K Mappa. I don't think he's gonna get hit much harder than that, though.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

@waluigimourner8071 not sure how they'd change that though. Plus is that really his strongest attribute?

[@tabkg5802]

No they should return old 6P as 6S and add back BDC specials and also make kara dash input more lenient and also buff his damage and also give him a 4f normal

[@PsychicJaguar19]

@@waluigimourner8071that might be tough to nerf without changing his k mappa hunch into meaties from PB HKD

[@linkitude7432]

6p shared a bit of its power with 6h lmao

[@LucidButtonMasher]

6h was pulled from plus r with it's ground bounce but sadly no jump cancel

[@firetoofan5555]

14:09 Xrd Di is best Di in franchise. Whether you disagree or not that's complete fact. Without doubt X to Xrd era Sol clearly at his peak gameplay-wise even missing link included. Glad three version of game still kicking.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Xrd DI is so sick especially for just over writing the music

[@tobyclone16]

Yeah, guard crush actually lets you recover in the air instead of guaranteed forcing until landing recovery. Leads to some very funny punishes and knowledge checks/rps in a few spots

[@LucidButtonMasher]

I like it

[@TheNeonPenguins]

Oh my god that was you in xrd, I just started playing xrd cause I watched your video on Leo

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Hell yeah. Glad you be inspiration

[@maniaxunt6506]

In 6P we trust! Nice clips as always, also what type of controller you use to play Strive?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Analog on an Xbox One controller

[@tehwaffles136]

​@@LucidButtonMasher Finally someone who shares my control setup

[@box...]

​@@LucidButtonMasheryou did kara bite on analog????? insanity

[@LucidButtonMasher]

@box... Definitely can't imagine doing it on Xbox dpad

[@daustthefaust8120]

Lucid, are you going to make a strive Slayer breakdown in the vein of your recent Xrd character vids? I imagine it would be a bit harder because less shenanigans exist overall in Strive and that’s what those videos focus on.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

It doesn't spark as much joy, plus i just straight up wouldn't be as knowledgeable on the game and other interactions as i would be in xrd or plus r. I legit don't think I'd do it justice

[@ryanrcosta]

Game mechanics are but fleeting But the 6P... the 6P is *Eternal* (a little bit less eternal than the last game, but still eternal)

[@AofCastle]

He's gotten good at holding back after all

[@LucidButtonMasher]

6p miles worse but only because xrd 6p was that good

[@preacherm4n]

6:11 holy fuck big show jumpscare

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Hehehehe

[@svartfrasr9755]

It's a blast to see how much fun you're having with this version of Slayer lol

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Definitely the must fun i had in Strive

[@breakaway4236]

Very pleasant editing on this one btw.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Many thanks. Trying to enhance without it being too much

[@ytho6627]

1:57 LucidPog

[@LucidButtonMasher]

I do that unfortunately often

[@Realmidboss]

0:26 I heard that Trails menu SFX. BTW when you're going to do a video about Trails, if you're planning one ofc.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Don't think it really has a place in a fighting game channel haha. Also used the rest theme in the fast forward bite attempt parts

[@Realmidboss]

@@LucidButtonMasher ArcSys make a Trails fighting game pls.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

@Realmidboss they could make any series into a fighting game. They could do it

[@SimplyNamedQ]

you set a new record for most time a Venom player has ever blocked in a game of +R

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Ngl not sure what he does too much so i froze

[@SimplyNamedQ]

@@LucidButtonMasher they usually jump out doing something or press 2D

[@sceptile57]

This is way too fun to watch

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Glad to have been of service

[@Mag_ott]

Idk if you know it but you can cancel the first hit of f.s into bite and I'm pretty sure it always connects so long they are on the ground

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Sure do. Pretty good stuff

[@entropy7705]

Glad to see Strive and the Slayer is was made in a way that can be fun for you to alternate betwen all the titles now.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Slayer luckily is hard to make not fun

[@degen7278]

This character is so fucking funny to watch people play. Hes really guilty gear.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

He is a funny dude for sure

[@fardsmel]

Vs garuda, the only time there isn’t a frame gap is during oki or after a Roman cancel, so if pot is doing shit like Gatlings> garuda or garuda> garuda you can just jump out. garuda rc garuda is fucking broken tho so b careful jumping or mashing if they got meter.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Yikes

[@LoraLoibu]

isn't meaty garuda > garuda gapless

[@fardsmel]

@@LoraLoibu unsure but afaik the only time pot players are really hitting meaty Garuda is when you do 6k Garuda oki in the corner 🤷‍♀️

[@MMurine]

@@LoraLoibu It can be, yes. It has to hit VERY meaty to be gapless (I think it's a 2 frame window), but that means the window to frame trap jumps and buttons is pretty generous.

[@MMurine]

Which I think makes meaty Garuda -> kara Garuda very difficult to make gapless, but not too tricky to trap with.

[@lemone630]

"I mixed myself!" is the best way to describe Slayer in Strive. This character is such utter nonsense that I'm not even mad anymore.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Can just be a funny dude doing funny things

[@Flavourius]

5:25 that was too many side switches I'm calling the police... ...however you gave I-No emotional damage so you're a free m(onkey)an.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Gotta show ino the left right compared to her high low

[@soppopoggo1345]

god i feel that ending so much "JUST DIE ALREADY"

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Double DI command grab should've been dead. She just had the guts i guess

[@benyamindelalic4843]

3:23 not me screwing up mist finer 😬

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Happens to us all

[@ashtonkat378]

love to see it

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Glad to have been of entertainment

[@notcraig255]

wired warrior is a funny name

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Better than Wi-Fi

[@vaterquality]

God slayer looks so fun, but i have a real hard time with his neutral for some reason

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Yeah he's not easy. 5k or mappa is best there

[@slushierushie]

I propose the nickname "the spiffing demon"

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Never heard spiffy used in that way before

[@imarock.7662]

As much as I kinda miss his BDC from Rev2, I've had hella fun with Slayer. I ain't giving up johnny tho. Lol Card go brrrrr

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Funny mist finer

[@valkyrie9729]

Do you play on pad, PlayStation joystick, arcade stick, or leverless? I play on PlayStation joystick and have been having so much trouble learning Kara bite, any tips?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

I use Xbox analog. The method i used to learn in the video is the best i got tbh. You just gotta be real fast and deliberate. Half circle back, neutral, dash macro up (or up back) H

[@negativeward5844]

Which slayer is your favorite to play so far?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Plus R Slayer is the most mechanically flexible and complex, but Xrd has my heart still, given the 1800 hours I've put into it

[@YarresNolant]

I must know, did you win against that Axl at 5mins in?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Nah he was cracked

[@JA-Sol-]

Im a simple man I see Slayer or I see slayer doing 6p I clikc

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Many thanks for doing so

[@HET34TY3E]

WWA has 7 frames of start up, you can totally pubish wwa before the invin frames kick in after those 7 frames.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Took a long time to figure that out

[@SSM24_]

It's actually 9f when it becomes invuln, but yeah.

[@magisterki3568]

Take a shot every time slayer deals 80% or more.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Hehehe drunk indeed

[@TheDeviousDooDooDevourer]

strive slayer have most of his routes not be cs 2s (2h) pb and not do 80-90% off of roundstart ch challenge for no apparent reason (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@LucidButtonMasher]

The reason was being ch lol

[@randomvitor340]

man....I keep trying to anti air with 2S or crosswise.....

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Same though

[@eebbaa5560]

should i play xrd? and is it hard to start? and how should i start?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Xrd is a great game with a lot more layers that can be over whelming at first. But it has a lot of good tutorials besides the combo trials that help you learn the game. Plus there are plenty online in the player lobby system to play against

[@kamachuno]

You standing while playing games or chair ?

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Both

[@SyRose901]

​@@LucidButtonMasherI love how you can tell by your position relative to the door behind you.

[@tyfp3854]

the 6p community, join now!

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Thriving

[@ZachStarAttack]

DOOMHAND

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Like a fist..of doom

[@LeonardoCoelho-g3h]

PokimaneOnlyFans 💀

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Ran into that person a lot

[@lpd1390]

But it's not kara bite. It's TK bite. You are cancelling forward dash with jump and then canceling jump startup frames with special.

[@severketorskeleton3759]

IF IT BITES IT BITES

[@enclavehere4705]

It's kara. Tk means doing the air version of a move as soon as possible after leaving the ground, bite isn't an air move.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Because you are moving forward with the bite and never leaving the ground, that's a kara. Tk would be off the ground. You don't call backdash bite tk bite in Xrd

[@HeirofDacia]

Tk means doing an OG Tiger Knee motion on the ground to use air specials as quickly and close to the ground as possible. Bite is obviously not an air move.

[@lpd1390]

​@@LucidButtonMasher Kara means that u're cancelling the startup of the move like normals, otherwise any abare, os and mashing could be called kara. We cancel the startup of one move with another to transfer the properties of the initial attack, such as invincibility or range. And teleports are not considered as "move" since it's a movement. 6k>potbuster is kara. 66321467 is tk, cuz u're doing tk motion, in other words cancelling forward dash teleport into jump and then cancelling it into special. It was generally accepted to slayer and azrael before in arcsys games. If slayer could cancel his 6HS into Bite, while getting the forward move from it, it could be called kara. But slayer does forward dash > cancel forward dash with jump > cancel jump by doing special with tk motion. If you could just do a bite without jump, then it could be called kara (in some terms). Calling jump startup cancelling as kara makes me die from cringe. Another argument that strive players are weak.

[@puppetmaskerr]

Dizzy in strive, cant wait to not be able to use fire!!! I heckin love DLC for butchered characters.

[@LucidButtonMasher]

Oof

[@diego.l5008]

6p

[@LucidButtonMasher]

6p

[@diego.l5008]

@@LucidButtonMasher 6p