Lucio is OP in Overwatch 2...

[@FroggerOW]

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[@Lemons4711]

porg

[@groundsalt2199]

I'm so glad you're back man. Been watching your stuff for like two years.

[@unban]

The biggest improvement I'm seeing so far is the "tickticktick" sound it makes when you nail people with Lucio shots.

[@Tuskbumper]

That's everyone but yeah it's really good

[@leonp.2171]

They should put an indicator to when your abilities are disabled and a different one for when Sombra only deals additional damage but you can use abilities again. If they name the former something that isn't too Sombra-specific they can also use is on other abilities for future heroes.

[@isky6541]

Interesting idea!

[@CinnahBaer]

Ah yeah like "Hacked" then "Weakend" or something. That'd be super useful

[@TehDalek]

Please no more ability disabling heroes....

[@Yotarnn]

too bad they're not creative enough

[@Wet-Milk]

@@Yotarnn bruh its an alpha calm down

[@sarge5529]

I’ve always loved the live commentary’s you do keep up the great vids and see you all in Overwatch 3

[@leonp.2171]

"Hello heroes, we are here today to announce overwatch 3, where the game becomes 4v4 due to the removal of all tanks in general. All heroes are now soldier 76 and some deal more damage and are in the DPS category and some heal more and are supports."

[@moezbadboy]

@@leonp.2171 thats called valorant

[@Fancjak]

@@moezbadboy Valorant is 5v5 first person shooter with precise gunplay

[@findmeatthepayload5883]

Can't wait for overwatch wars 2

[@EsKpistOne]

@@findmeatthepayload5883 you mean 2 over 2 watch

[@tamooz6649]

I feel the biggest buff for lucio besides less stuns is the fact that now if u dont take damage you can still recover health on speed now 👀

[@Acerak420BlazeIt]

that makes me very happy as a mostly one trick lucio main that plays torb sometimes and doomfist

[@christianthompson7915]

@@Acerak420BlazeIt same honestly

[@dankmemelord414]

It also works insanely well with healing mode for stalling on cart

[@jamesruth646]

Frogman you don’t need to say sorry when explaining things as you play lol you’re doing great and you’re literally playing a game at the same time nobody is expecting a crisp flawless dialogue haha. All the best homie :)

[@Piemasta9000]

it's also twice as funny when he is live commentating and lands in front of a charging stealth rein

[@supersnow17]

Lucio has always been my go to guy in almost every map and I'm glad to see they didn't really do much to change him, since, to be fair. He's basically perfect and doesn't need to be balanced.

[@inkspot.1236]

He is broken ngl, i respect you but man, there is no way someone actually thinks he is balanced

[@supersnow17]

@@inkspot.1236 What about his isn't balanced?

[@sadchild9478]

@@supersnow17 they couldn’t come up with anything lol

[@Ssenyura]

@@inkspot.1236 they kind of already nurfed him without really nurfing him by making tanks take less knockback

[@thaddcorbett2148]

Holy cow it's incredibly pleasing to the eyes watching Lucio pick off supports so quickly.

[@resident_emo108]

When I first heard about push i was expecting it to be like in tf2 where there is a cart for each team and both teams have to manage defending one objective while pushing the other, which would in overwatch mean that your team has to split up. I understand that with the smaller team sizes it might not work too well but I still think it is an interesting idea

[@TheLegendaryFUSRODAH]

tf2 has team comps of 12 tho so they have a much easier time fighting in split areas

[@TheHammockProduction]

feel like with no stuns that lucio, tracer, mayyybeee genji will be good as it'll be a straight up aiming fight. and then torb turret will be there to save the day ;D

[@Broockle]

woo! I'm also excited to play Reaper again 😆

[@ZeraAxon]

11:35 You made my day Frogger. Perfectly cut scream lmao

[@ol1mar]

Frogger is 100% my new favourite OW content creator.

[@robertrynard7397]

I’ve never watched your videos before so I wanted to let you know that I enjoyed you commentary a lot and no need to apologize about it!

[@Tom-H1]

Even though I hate stuns, I feel like Sombra's hack needs to disable abilities for just one more second. From 1s to 2s. Why? Bc it's funny to hack a Lucio and they fall off the map lol

[@isky6541]

Yeah, that one second seems rather useless. But that's just coming from an outsider's perspective, I've never played the game so I don't know how much a second would matter

[@chatfou57]

@@isky6541 In Overwatch, you can lose the entire game because of a tenth of a second, sometimes even less, one second is huge (e.g. you just barely can't get to point quick enough in overtime, you just barely miss the timing window to block a shatter, you throw a grav into defense matrix and lose it and the DVA runs out of matrix a few frames later, you almost cancel Sombra's EMP with a stun, but you're just barely too slow and EMP comes out before the stun hits, etc...)

[@isky6541]

@@chatfou57 ah, okay, thank you :)

[@Tom-H1]

@@chatfou57 That's a bit dramatic... Besides, the ability disable in the alpha with hack is actually less than a second, it's like half a second. So adding another second would make a decent difference, because now you get to bully Lucio slightly more ;)

[@chatfou57]

​@@Tom-H1 This wasn't exactly meant as "I don't want hack to last any longer" (although I totally get why you'd think that given my comment lol) This was more to give a sense of how fast the game can be. I hate Sombra's hack, because I play a lot of characters who rely on abilities, but even I think the disable should last a bit longer, because right now it's basically just an interrupt. It doesn't stop people from doing things, it just slows them down a bit, and the combo potential is pretty low because of how short the window is, which is a shame, because combos are a great part of what makes OW great imo. Some people say the 40% extra damage from Sombra onto the hacked target is really significant though, so maybe for balance they could lower that to 25% or 30% but add 1 sec to the disable, to make hack-based ability combos (e.g. hack into shatter) a bit more forgiving in terms of timing without making hack a busted ability, but that seems unlikely since it looks like the devs want Sombra to be more of an individualistic and opportunistic assassin than a team player in OW2, and they've tried to get rid of almost all cc on dps

[@DarthCookieOW]

Most positive things I hear about 5v5 all come to a single conclusion for me: Everybody is just giga hyped bc it's new shit after 2 years of nothing. Now imagine they would've done that with 6v6. Less CC, limit the game to 1 shield Tank (for example MT/OT split) and actually released new Tanks and Supports the last 2 years. Bc what I've heard too is that balance is a mess. Tons of Tanks and Supports are straight up not playable because of their fundamental design not working in a 5v5 environment. Like many said before: if we wanted a team deathmatch game, we would've gotten CoD.

[@Abstractor21]

Who would say Moira and Lucio were gonna be the best picks in overwatch 2

[@ZeriJ]

Moira?? Definitely not lmao

[@olegdusov4273]

@@ZeriJ what? she litteraly can duel or escape from most flankers successfully and OW2 right now without second tank is all about flanks and staying alive on supports

[@Abstractor21]

@@ZeriJ if Lucio is a good pick in ow2, therefore moira has to be a good pick too. Moira and Lucio have great synergy and hugh survavility + they do decent dmg. High survavility and flanking are crucial in OW2 and lucio-moira are the only supports that can do that perfectly.

[@ZeriJ]

@@olegdusov4273 no

[@ZeriJ]

@@Abstractor21 moira does literal dog shit dmg idk what to tell you, unless they changed her in OW2? Also Lucio isn’t OP in OW 2 unless you’re a god. He’s definitely more viable then he was in this new meta though I’ll give you that. But moira… no she will remain as the character gold and below pick.

[@lime4667]

I wonder what the best team comp is gonna be. seems like Ana, Lucio, Mei, Bastion and Doom are really good at the moment

[@TrueOracle]

No mei is bad

[@isky6541]

@@TrueOracle really? How so? Did you come to this conclusion by just watching other youtubers?

[@TrueOracle]

@@isky6541 yes, because they have played OW2 and you haven’t so of course

[@NomadKolibria]

Ana gets bodied by dive

[@survivalhh2995]

@@isky6541 she can't freeze people anymore

[@PolarfuchsMusicFav]

Feels like a lot of supports got the short end of the stick :/ Lucio feels very oppressive tho

[@_V.Va_]

I feel like Moira and Lucio are the only ones with the highest chances of success.

[@boostmefujumoto]

Still wish his amp cooldown was less than 12 maybe 8 secs

[@jelruv6721]

@@_V.Va_ Watching zen get killed was sad. He kills him with no worry.

[@mysticalassassin6168]

Lucio and Sombra are so fun man. You can do so much cool parkour with their fast speed, can go into the back lines & get kills and then return back fast & safely. They deserve more love me thinks lol

[@inkspot.1236]

They dont, because that is why they are broken

[@SlimeyZockt]

First time here, the lucio movement is really good an nice to watch and the screams when he dies are hilarious

[@Hellgonoreha]

finally i can play lucio again... i missed to much my little frog

[@agikai_]

Lucio was my main support back in Overwatch. Good to see him get some love.

[@lightningjet9444]

Gotta love the super mario galaxy soundtrack playing in the background of overwatch 2 gameplay

[@Guetzli_]

I always play Mercy and Lucio, because my aim is garbage so the best I can do is heal/speed in the right moments and maybe land less as half of my shots. As far as I have seen it's no more big team fights, it's all about mobility and fighting people alone or in a small group. I think most people will love the new content, but to me it looks so stressful.

[@cee_ves]

I always said Cassidy players would rue the day the frogs rise up. They laughed in my face… *Their stuns cannot save them now*

[@awsickler]

I think the minus 1 tank is huge to individual player potential because think about it. It's essentially removed 30 percent of the enemy health pool. Should seriously increase pacing and skillcap

[@_V.Va_]

A very based take.

[@awsickler]

@@_V.Va_ thank you Mr. Va

[@pokky9860]

It seems like movement and survivability are gonna be super important in OW 2, since there’s one less tank to help with peel and less stuns to stop characters like ball or Lucio

[@DarthCookieOW]

Minus one Tank is straight up just giga-boosting mobile self sustain heroes. Half the Support and Tank roster is pretty garbo rn. I wouldn't count this towards individual player carry potential. It's just that 5v5 is way more deathmatchy and lots of heroes don't excel in that at all per fundamental design.

[@awsickler]

@@DarthCookieOW yeah I agree some heroes need more movement like ana or zen but that's why they only removed ONE tank. There's still an objective and there's still 4 other players on your team. Those heroes are still more than viable in the current understanding of the alpha meta. Overall I haven't seen anyone assert that their hero is no longer viable given the changes.

[@tylergarner2312]

"No stuns" Ana: laughs in sleep dart

[@kutame]

outro music almost made me fall asleep in my chair so relaxing

[@bob_bigfoot]

nice chill video! looking forward to your ow2 content :)

[@tlm2096]

All this is great to hear, it sounds like overwatch 2 will be the land of the Reddit lucios so maybe I will finally stop feeding and get out of diamond

[@VoDkAvi]

11:37 that transition 😂

[@tomanalog]

Doesn't the map feel empty with just 5 players (10) instead of 6 per team?

[@hunterdevon]

This video made me extremely hyped for the beta. Thanks Frogger!

[@keizermaatje1304]

The Mario Galaxy music is underrated

[@BertShierling]

I totally zoned out of what Frogger was saying, just watching mL7 die in the backround because no heals lmao

[@vampyrres]

"orisa is the scariest tank to play against, right next to doomfist" is not a sentence i've ever expected

[@vexedtea4081]

We are being absolutely TREATED by frogger! Thanks man!

[@luciddreamarium3510]

It looks like OW2 is a lot of fun so far! I wonder what changes to Lucio will be added before full release? Also the background music in this vid was so chill and nice. What is it from?

[@rainyIoI]

it's from animal crossing! i think either from new leaf or new horizons? i dont know the exact songs but most acnl/nh songs are very calming like this, especially the nighttime/morning time ones.

[@armado9721]

8:19 Yeah i like Bastion's new ult too, he is transforming in to artileria mod and dying 👌

[@ianhandsup]

Dude Frogger is just zooming though everyone LOL

[@MossRocket]

Outtro is a banger, Frog Man

[@PuffisSenpai]

Man I cannot wait to do Rollouts on new maps and pop off :D Lucio finally a good pick letsfuckinggooooooooooooo

[@Kadood]

flashbang freddy is now sticky nade stan

[@oneballjrook5736]

Lucio has turned into basically Scout from TF2 Elite aggressive/aggressor.( apart from Lucio not having a shotgun but you get the point ) and the fact that there since there are no stuns 'yet' you can quite literally run around the map for no reason. I love playing him but that's my opinion if you disagree well that's the nature of opinions. the question does remain though what happens if two luccios who act like Scouts play style me each other? now that will be CHAOTIC

[@hufflepuffler2575]

" is this toxic? " proceeds to do it anyways

[@maxniemi4584]

New title: Frogger not dying for 15 minutes in overwatch 2

[@evilyoshimaster]

Wait, So push is just Tower Control from Splatoon except you don't have to ride on the objective.

[@rolando90s]

Yup.

[@evilyoshimaster]

@@rolando90s Honestly, that's really cool, I'd love to see an Overwatch take on Rainmaker too.

[@ilovehelldivers5317]

Frogger in space jam?

[@etan4677]

Does Lucio healing as a healer stack with the healing from his ability?

[@chatfou57]

I think it does, because Ana can self heal with nade without interrupting the passive self heal, and the same goes for all other sources of healing as far as I can tell. And I think it wouldn't really make sense if there was a distinction between different sources of healing, that kind of thing has never happened, even with other new mechanics in OW2, so implementing it just for the support role passive would be really weird

[@sylph4596]

Yes, it's the same with Mercy. Her passive stacks with the new support passive too.

[@merkyverse2865]

Did they change the Lucio music for some skins or did the editor just put a background music ? I'm confused

[@remyxedfern5008]

Yo the spawn in Toronto is curling?? Hilarious

[@posthardcoresinger]

Got a chance to play this map at the last in person Blizzcon. So hyped for this and the new boostioooohhhhhhh.

[@kurogiritree2825]

Looks like the reverted some of lucio momentum changes

[@Norman34O1]

My man was just bodying kids for 15 minutes straight

[@e.d.5766]

I'm a little bit worried about OW2 as someone who loves feeding my brains out on Winston. From what I've heard, he's a much worse pick, and with only one tank slot I wouldn't want to make things worse for other players by picking a terrible hero. Part of me worries that they only got rid of the second tank slot because 5 is more standard, rather than it being better for the game, but I'm hoping it'll work out.

[@kamikazebear1012]

Dont worry, tank is basically cleanup now, u don't really do much anyway and ur kinda unkillable, also doomfist is basically just winston so now u have 2 winstons if u ever wanted that, i know i didnt, no 5 is not good for the game, its is not more clear, not more balanced, its just easier for mobile to run and make no mistake we will be getting mobile

[@FroggerOW]

Honestly I thought winston was pretty weak at first but I've heard he does really good because of his shield, he builds his ultimate really fast too since I think that ult charge rate got buffed. I think his playstyle might be different but I still think he'll work with a lot of aggressive comps.

[@wahkaman9242]

I feel like the change to one tank was only to combat the fact that the tank player base is much smaller. Rather than make tanks more fun to play, they just made it to where you don't need as many players now. It's all about game wait times.

[@chimplandr8825]

Frogger is genuinely the best thing thats ever happened to me thank u frog man

[@mjoutje236]

This was an really nice video lad keep it up

[@marcelo55869]

Who knew reddit lucios were training for this day all along...

[@Remix_TMC]

Frogger with the pogger content

[@dylanhettle5960]

so the new push is kind of like splatoon right? That's what comes to mind for me.

[@defeatSpace]

Uh oh, somebody's gonna be in trouble for not including the alpha footage watermark.

[@nicknamedude]

13:31 Bro started speaking in chicken

[@gamerzss]

Frogger says he's gonna play bastion more, thats where I end the video

[@MaxTheCC]

You are not anoying. You're just really pumped like every Overwatch hypeeeeer

[@StarKnight54]

I would have so much fun freestyle riding on these new maps. Too bad I'm a console player and have to wait extra

[@TrueOracle]

Frogman!

[@TheSonicFan4]

You should have music credits in your description

[@iakonasisler4808]

Kind of odd that supports still heal when they're slept, kinda ruining the point in sleeping them sense you want to be able to finish them off

[@treyschweighart109]

I feel like this video is the perfect reason for there to be CC in overwatch. I don't think a healer should be able to go into the backline of another comp and absolutely demolish both supports. There is no way to punish Lucio, as well as other dive characters with decent movement. I think that supports who enjoy playing ana or zen are going to have a really rough time with this new game. Now I agree that CC is nowhere near perfect in its current state, and obviously needs tweaking, but there is no way that this style of play should go unpunished.

[@mace5949]

Skill issue

[@sumanthcs6888]

Can only imagine how bad you are at the game😂😂😂😂😂

[@anonymousjuj1112]

@@sumanthcs6888 facts

[@wahkaman9242]

Like you said I have to wait and see after I play, but one aspect of OW that has kept me around is the team synergy and cooperation. OW2 just seems like a plain old fps now. If I wanted that I'd just go play apex or something.

[@TFD.aep2]

5v5 is so good because you can have actual stagger fights now instead of one person being picked and the rest of the team fets steamrolled even though you can still do that if you kill good targets

[@fool5786]

It's nice to hear him liking things for a change lol

[@tim_blitz]

Don't think I don't hear that Super Mario Galaxy music in the background ;)

[@turkialbluwi5394]

A tank in ow2 makes you feel like the leader

[@dudewaldo4]

Great music this episode frogger I love you

[@spazboy7754]

Him talking about overwatch 2 Me: how TF is he alive

[@enriquecancel8033]

wait a second, is that Mario 64 or Super Mario Galaxy music for the backround!!!????

[@1kiwibird23]

the hit markers sound satisfying

[@deathrideout6087]

this means my boy reaps is back

[@cime62]

all streamers say: push isnt balanced because usually the team that captured the robot the first time wins the map

[@kingoftheducks5202]

bro how are you living these encounters, you're actually crazy at lucio.

[@lalalandd123]

do the old AND new hitmarker/kill confirm sounds play at the same time???

[@ThatSavoieDude]

You're insanely cracked dude

[@lukenolan3304]

The weirdest thing is seeing ML7 and Frogger play together and ML7 on TANK😭

[@PainlessSiren]

The 200 ping is rough lol

[@FluidEnjoyer]

Can't wait to see some overwatch 2 gameplay! Was hoping that we get it in this video but I guess I have to wait a little longer! :)

[@Broockle]

I wonder what QGC will be like 5v5

[@gyrososkard1920]

ily frog man

[@ProBallMain]

4:14 how the hell do you survive that

[@TheKaptaindo]

Your Lucio is so satisfying to watch, keep up the great vids king 👑

[@celeste1057]

Is there still going to be open queue? So you could play more than 1 tank if you wanted?

[@cubex5178]

But the real question is, will there be more Eurobeat Lucio Vids?

[@FroggerOW]

maybe...

[@DilSnaps]

YOU JUST MADE ME SO EXCITED TO PLAY AS A LUCIO MAIN

[@contentguy9093]

it's so nice to see creators having fun with overwatch 3, it's about time

[@MicrowaveDj_]

3?

[@Broockle]

a lot of these changes were done 2 years ago tho 😆 We basically got a content plug for 3 years which is now finally getting pulled out 🤣

[@SkunkfapGaming]

less stuns and one less tank? a lucio main's wet dream, The fact that I can reddit more efficiently now makes me very very happy

[@K3Vz0]

Yooooo, smg ost very nice

[@Lemons4711]

Frog man here!

[@boomingbob1579]

So glad to see enjoyment

[@flexabustbergson6141]

best overwatch 2 content out there!

[@hogn1]

Can we all agree right now that the push robot's name is Terry? I think we need to establish that now