Luderick off the Rocks | A Beginners Guide

[@portsfishing1101]

Top vid mate. Hoping to target these fish soon.

[@anglinguntangled]

All reports say Nelson Bay wall is fishing very well

[@portsfishing1101]

@@anglinguntangled sure is mate. Shoulder to shoulder. We will do it from the boat. I'm looking forward to it. Tight lines mate👍

[@hakimozel1219]

I was trying to get one badly last time i was down south. Ended up with pig after pig instead. Cant complain

[@anglinguntangled]

Nah not at all. Fight twice as hard and taste just as good

[@hakimozel1219]

@@anglinguntangled If you had to choose?

[@anglinguntangled]

I do love my luderick. They seem easier to get onto for me and there’s something really relaxing about watching a float bob along. I’d rather fight a drummer than a luderick any day of the week though

[@hakimozel1219]

@@anglinguntangled true but i also catch pigs on float. best of both worlds. keep up the good videos. Subscribed!

[@mwroutledge]

You're a natural educator! What a great concise educational vid, well done & thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. I'm subscribed!

[@anglinguntangled]

Thank you mate! Greatly appreciated. New video chasing harbour luderick should be up tomorrow night!

[@pricey.sfishingadventures5478]

great stuff where is this

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate, it’s in the Catherine Hill Bay Area. I’d prefer not to say the exact spot but comparing the vid with google earth will make it pretty easy to find for anyone keen enough to fish it 👍🏼

[@pricey.sfishingadventures5478]

@@anglinguntangled hi i live the entrance north look up Pricey,s fishing Adventures

[@anglinguntangled]

Yep have already seen a few of your vids mate, hope to see more in the future

[@wyatt1351]

where is that im from lake mac

[@anglinguntangled]

Catherine hill Bay Area mate

[@wyatt1351]

@@anglinguntangled thanks

[@danssv8]

A much watch fishing show for the greens and the vegetarian out there.

[@douglascooper1327]

Hi, I reckon you should consider doing this as a career, Although you probably need to cover other species as well. You are a natural born educator. I relate tip & tricks with logic to back up what you are say. Keep them coming Mate.

[@anglinguntangled]

Thank you very much mate. Would be a dream to do this for a job and maybe one day, but is pretty fun doing these on the side as well. Yeah will be trying to knock over as many species and tactics as possible over time and hopefully keep putting out one every week or so. Cheers again

[@Stevos_HookedonRods4844]

G'day Louis, Great tuition, very informative mate Nice fishing session Was that down near Swansea, you know what i mean without give it Cheers Stevo Newcastle How's the business going 🙏

[@anglinguntangled]

Hey Stevo, Keep on the highway south and next town on the left and you’re in the zone. Good ol google earth will lead you pretty well to it. Business is coming along well thanks mate. Fair few Jew caught and the whiting are showing up which is awesome after missing them down here last year

[@Daniel80Kim]

Beautiful place for rock fishing~~~😮 where is this place...? I would like to go there someday...

[@anglinguntangled]

It certainly is but I won’t give the exact location sorry. The best spots require a little work to find so I’ll just say this is northern central coast nsw

[@colinlarden5372]

That's bardie point Catherine Hill Bay. Caught huge pigs groper and many species here before this young fella was born.

[@anglinguntangled]

Unreal spot that’s for sure!

[@tomarm567]

Great Vid really enjoyed your Video . I have a great passion for fishing for Lud's off the stones 50 years of it. Now a little to old to get around now . Well put together

[@anglinguntangled]

Thanks Tom. Means a lot mate and glad you enjoyed it

[@Sticks_Stones51994]

Yo love your videos just subscribed but I was wondering where this is Thank you❤ Ethan

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers Ethan, much appreciated mate. This is shot in the Catherine hill Bay Area. Won’t give the exact location but if you care to have a look on google earth I’m sure you’ll find it

[@danssv8]

How to catch vegan fish

[@mun6428]

Hi mate ! love this video here - just out of curiosity, how did you tie your second hook (green fly) to the line of your alvey setup ?

[@anglinguntangled]

Hey mate, so it’s one piece for f line going from swivel to eye of weed fly, then second line tied off on the bend of the hook and going down to the eye of the bottom hook. Cheers mate!

[@salamghareeb934]

Hi how are you could you please tell me where this place is located in NSW? Thank you 😃

[@anglinguntangled]

Hi mate, I won’t be too specific but it’s in the Catherine hill Bay Area

[@jzfishing103]

Hey mate do you have to cast it far or just right next to the edge?Also,if the water depth is 3m do I set the float to 3m or 2m or 2.5m?

[@anglinguntangled]

Nah usually no need to cast far and how deep you have it set will just depend on the day. And as a general rule having I’ll start with my bait a metre off the bottom and see if they’re hanging there and then set it higher if having no luck

[@eofolk7754]

Really good informative vid mate, good job. I agree with other comments, you are a natural teacher. Cheers.

[@anglinguntangled]

Thanks mate,greatly appreciated. Alas, the rate of making videos isn’t as high as I would like but still hopeful of getting a video a month done. Fingers crossed the next one will be bowfishing for carp which has been awesome fun to pick up

[@johntirant5236]

Great vid mate,so is your cabbage fly tied directly onto your trace then below that your baited hook

[@anglinguntangled]

Yeah so first length of trace from the weighted swivel to the weed fly eye, then second length of trace tied onto the bend in the weed fly hook down to the bait

[@meocehrstg8433]

How deep you have your float, I have a hard time getting the float depth right, do they sit on the bottom or are they mid water fish?

[@anglinguntangled]

Generally they will be hanging around the bottom, so having your bait a meter off that is a good place to start. They can sometimes come up higher in the water column as you’re burley starts to kick in though and in rare occasions you can see them eating off the surface. If you’re not getting fish after changing the bait to a some different depths, I’d downsize your leader to 6 or 4lb 👍🏼

[@LordByronMacintosh]

wonderful work again thanks

[@KK-gj9ds]

Hi, I love your beginner's guide to this style of fishing and subscribed instantly. How do you pick what size floats work for you? They come in different range of weights..

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate, greatly appreciated! Float size varies with the turbulence of the conditions you’re fishing - small floats for very calm, large floats for rough seas. Larger floats are not thrown around so easy by waves and current and are more visible

[@KK-gj9ds]

Thanks to your video, I have caught my first luderick today! Super stoked! Cheers!!

[@anglinguntangled]

Yewww! That’s awesome mate well done. Hopefully they start showing up in good numbers soon and you’ll start smashing them 👊🏼

[@danssv8]

Awesome video mate

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate!

[@DEANOBLOKE]

Awesome

[@karenbroker2784]

where the place in Australia?

[@anglinguntangled]

Lake Macquarie region

[@bryntrenter8185]

Amazing vid mate, you have the gift of the gab for sure.

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers Bryn 😁

[@adamcartwright1152]

Quality work mate.

[@teamroddogiddyupfishing6971]

Great video mate, loved it. What tide do you find it better to fish in these offshore rock area's, run in or run out ?

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate! I find the top half of run in to be best and it tends to quieten down as the further the tide drops

[@teamroddogiddyupfishing6971]

@@anglinguntangled Sounds good, thanks for replying

[@yangliu4133]

same way as iso fishing float rig, best rig for drummer and luderick~

[@Tunnelrat6666]

Thanks for the vid very helpful. I am just getting into fishing for luderick so it was very helpful. I do have one question what determines what weight float you use?

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate. It basically boils down to the rougher the conditions the bigger the float. A bigger float that requires more lead underneath to get it sitting right is less affected by the turbulence of the water. That’s not to say you won’t have success using ocean floats in still waters but the belief is fish will be put off if they can sense they’re pulling a bigger float down

[@TheBuzzawak]

I was having a go today (no luck). I think I was setting my line too long as it was catching on rocks and the float was going down.. Other times I would get a down (wait 2 seconds) but it would come up again. Unsure if that was a bite or not. My question is how do you know how deep to set your line?

[@anglinguntangled]

Your just going to have to feel the area out. Having it close to the bottom is a good spot to try and find fish but they also might be mid water or even close to the surface if there’s enough bait/burley on top. One thing that might be happening is that you are using a too small of float or have it weighted too heavy and the water draining back off the rocks is dragging your float under rather than a fish

[@thebeerhunter817]

Good video mate I just subscribed. Be good to see a video catching black drummer.

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate and they’re definitely on the hit list

[@monnsfishing6863]

Hey bro what hook are you using?

[@anglinguntangled]

It’s a Daiichi 2174 green hook in size #8. You can pick them up from the site I mention in the vid or likely be on eBay as well

[@monnsfishing6863]

Thanks matey

[@chepachii]

Great video mate, appreciate the effort you put in to making it,Top notch bro. What rods are they,I'm looking at getting a Gary Howard ocean blackfish.

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate! The spin rod is a daiwa crossfire surf I believe 3-5kg. I got it for $70 when starting out and it is a fantastic rod for that price. The low mount is a Snyder Glas mag bream and got it for about $240. It is a great luderick rod but may be hard to find. Haven’t held one of the Gary Howard’s but have only heard good things

[@chepachii]

@@anglinguntangled yeah cheers mate,I have the 10 foot side of things covered and am going to take a punt on the 12 foot side of things and not get the GH. Have no doubt it will be a super blank but for half the price they have a crossfire like yours but a 12 foot 3 to 6 kilo version I like the action on yours and am impressed and can't see myself going wrong ,it's half the price of the GH. Excited to get hold of it. Cheers mate keep up the great work.

[@brucewu3622]

Hi bro. U were using 10 ft rod for luderick. In the video. But some one say 12 ft is the best length to catch it. Do u think actually 10 ft rod is long enough ?

[@anglinguntangled]

Yeah 10-12ft is ideal but really you could catch them on a 7’ rod as well. It all depends on the area your fishing. A longer rod just helps you manage fish around the shore

[@brucewu3622]

@@anglinguntangled thx bro

[@numismatric]

Class act mate... ;)

[@keithvowles5864]

Picking up some good info from ur vids. Thanks.

[@anglinguntangled]

Glad to hear Keith 👍🏼

[@Whaleydavey]

Is this NSW?

[@anglinguntangled]

Yep

[@Whaleydavey]

@@anglinguntangled Thanks.

[@CaptainZedful]

Excellent

[@TheBuzzawak]

Could you tell us a bit about the boots your wear?

[@anglinguntangled]

They’re just the Mirage Rockhopper Dive Boots from bcf. Plenty of others on the market but these have held up pretty good for me

[@pigsandapples]

Really well put-together video. Thanks. I've learned so much and watched a few times. Plenty of miles on the stones for other species but Luderick fishing is a new game for me.

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate, much appreciated. Have you had any luck yet? The hardest thing with luderick can be finding them! Sometimes a spot will look perfect and they just don’t go there

[@pigsandapples]

@@anglinguntangled That's exactly what I've been finding. Perfect looking spots, great bait (weed and cabbage), burley and yet no fish. I'm sure I'll crack it soon when I find them. Got one of the last Alvey 47s still available and getting used to line management/casting on a pin is a little slower than I expected. All good though.

[@anglinguntangled]

Is a great time of year for fishing the harbours and breakwalls for them as well if your looking to get a few runs on the board. And you won’t regret getting the centrepin mate. Bit of a learning curve to use but they’re unmatched in letting a a float go naturally with the swell and I reckon a much more enjoyable way of fighting the fish. I’m sure you’ll workout your own little tricks with it, but one thing I do is have the rod butt tucked up under my arm and the spool resting against my side/belly to stop it spinning went not needed

[@pigsandapples]

@@anglinguntangled Thanks I'll give some harbour spots a go. Just bought my second Alvey centrepin so now have the SS backed version (47 Float) and the 47GZ. I started with the 47 Float and love it but realised on my first outing how useful the full reel stop/latch would be on the 47GZ. The ratchet on the 47 Float doesn't do the same job. Plus the lighter weight of the GZ could be good over a long day's fishing. They're like hen's teeth now so luckily grabbed the last one anywhere in Sydney tackle stores .

[@anglinguntangled]

Yeah that’s a good score. Haven’t had an SS one and went for the graphite back for those reasons. Mines been bullet proof and I’ve treated it pretty poorly

[@alfanathan1]

You're at my spot

[@barbraabsalom4531]

Not just yours 🙂

[@davidlole6155]

Good educational video. Fished that spot many a time when it's calmish. My favourite spot in the area is almost right back to the beach with a rising tide and a bit of a bump. I would also mention the general area (and all areas in general) can be incredibly dangerous in larger swells and a life vest should be worn at all times when fishing the ocean rocks. Many lives have been lost because of inadequate footwear and no PFD.

[@davidlole6155]

I note you did go through the safety aspects early in the video.

[@anglinguntangled]

A very beautiful bit of coast. Yeah there’s been a couple times I’ve had to go for plan b when the swells to big. One bloke has told the the fish school up in the lagoon behind the ledge when it’s real big

[@davidlole6155]

If we're talking about the same spot, I fished there ("the lagoon") once on the run out tide with a big SE swell. Only got two. Ran out of water in the end. But you can see why the fish seek shelter there in those conditions. Cheers

[@anglinguntangled]

Yeah reminds of of some other maxed out storm swell spots around Newcastle

[@davidlole6155]

BTW, the spot next to the beach I was referring to is at the north end of the beach. The lagoon being at the south end?

[@DucatiOz]

Thanks for posting this, I have learnt allot. 👌🤘🏾

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate! Glad to hear

[@DucatiOz]

@@anglinguntangled just one question with the Alvey and the float line, are you using backing underneath the float line or are you just winding on the 150m of Dango float?

[@anglinguntangled]

Go backing underneath it and really you can just put half the float line on. You’ll never have more than 20 metres of line out for luderick and can put the other half on when you work through the first half and always have a nice full spool.

[@steven8104]

Great video! Do you recommend Daiwa Crossfire Surf or the Daiwa Seabass?

[@anglinguntangled]

Cheers mate. Haven’t used a seabass but I did just have a look at the specs. I’m guessing you’re looking at the 10’6 and it may be a ever so slightly stiff for luderick as it’s rated 5-9kg (the crossfire surf is 3-5kg and my favourite luderick rod is 6kg). That might not be a bad thing as long as it’s got a nice soft action and will mean you’ll be able to put the breaks on any drummer you come across, or try to anyway. You’ll also be able to throw slightly bigger lures on the seabass compared to the crossfire if you felt like spinning off the beach or rocks. If you’re just after a rod specifically for luderick and want to step up from the crossfire, BCF have the Wilson Blackfish for $140 which I haven’t used but has felt good in the hands. Hope this has helped!

[@steven8104]

@@anglinguntangled thanks for the detailed and quick reply. Would the crossfire be able to lift the fish out of the water? In your video, you drag the fish out with the wave along the rocks. In my situation, the breakwall is quite high where I fish at and I won't be able to drag the fish out. I would have to lift it up.

[@anglinguntangled]

I reckon it would struggle with bigger models, you definitely would need to keep the rod angle low or risk snapping the tip. I think you’ll find it worth investing in a long handle/telescoping net before too long anyway. The combo of using small hooks and luderick having soft mouths means they’re prone to fall off while lifting, as well as your line will snap if they’ve managed to brush it by a rock during the fight. Are you in Newcastle by any chance?

[@steven8104]

@@anglinguntangled Sydney based but the spot I go is at Wollongong. Thanks for answering all my questions haha. For context I've got a BG 2500 reel spooled with 15lb braid and my previous rod was only 7ft so looking to upgrade. Targeting blackfish only 50% of the time so probably wouldn't get the Wilson one. Still on the fence between the seabass and crossfire haha. Also open to other rod suggestions around that price range!

[@anglinguntangled]

No dramas at all mate. The seabass doesn’t seem like a bad choice at all if your going to use it for other things as well, you’d just need to take your reel in put it on the rod and see how it feels, make sure its got enough bend through the middle of the rod for luderick. I do like the Penn prevail rods and they have a model in the same specs as the 10’6 seabass. Even though it’s the same line rating it says it will cast up to 60g lures over the 40g for the seabass, so you’d just have to have a feel of it make sure it’s not too stiff. But I wouldn’t get hung up on just those three rods either, pick up any 10’6ish rods around that 6kg mark and put your reel on, see how it feels and get one of the workers to hold the tip while you see how it bends

[@douglascooper1327]

Hi I have watched many Luderick Fishing videos , Lately . Yours is up there with the so called Guru's. Loved the way you spoke nice and clear easy to understand. But What mostly stood out for me. Was that it 's evident you know what you are talking about. For such a young man Well done look forward to your next one. P.S i am 74 been fishing for them for 40 odd years

[@anglinguntangled]

Thanks so much Douglas that means a lot to me mate. Makes putting the effort into the video worthwhile. The next video I’ll be back to chasing luderick too but in Newcastle harbour, hopefully have it up on Monday night. Thanks again for the kind words