Ludwig Wanted Caedrel To Review THIS Game | Caedrel VOD Review Part 1

[@TheSmartCinema]

switching from fiddle to amumu was the best decision he could make to improve

[@VanX0X0]

True! You are new or bad at the game still = play tank, it give u space to make mistake, learn what other chars do while not being one tapped and it will feel good as you can actually impact the game, tho not many players actually do so :D

[@controlcon]

​@@VanX0X0tank junglers are severely underrated if you're learning jungle. i get that they aren't exactly the most fun or engaging playstyles and carrying a team with a carry jungle is more fun though

[@bigsmoke4592]

@@controlcon current liandry into tank amumu is doing A LOT of damage while being very forgiving. also amumu is fun in low elo, q into 5 man ult is pretty funny

[@Deckfighters]

My friend who was bronze started out as a kayn main, our friend group convinced him to swap over to someone easier like warwick and he hit emerald. sometimes it really is about dumbing it down so you can learn easier.

[@Iloveoranges12332]

@@bigsmoke4592amumu is the best jungler in low elo by far I forget the stats but I looked once and it was like 56% wr in iron

[@dlszach]

Ludwig playing 12 games is crazy

[@nhanduong5881]

He is trying to prove Tyler wrong😂

[@jackg2630]

That’s like a solid 6-7 hours straight of ranked

[@moneybuyer16]

Lud is scamming Caedrel back with all of these free coaching lessons

[@UnusGrunus]

infinite content hack for sally you mean

[@dioxide39]

​​@@UnusGrunusLudwig gets frequent League advice from Sally 🤝 Sally gets free stream content sounds good for both sides

[@Nioxre]

i think ludwig said he wanted the coaching lesson to start once he's plat or diamond or smth, that's why he's putting it off right now while he's still lower elo

[@villenhan]

Pedro just likes it. It's really infinite yt loop.

[@johnkunkel5946]

They both are making bank off the content generated from this.

[@omarnaja2285]

Knowing Ludwig this will probably be his next video title: "I hired my friend to trick this League streamer into thinking i'm a god gamer"

[@okaythx]

Watch the friend turn out to be Bjergsen

[@lucifer1809]

Doublift most likely as hes been in a few OTV videos before​@okaythx

[@Hyajae]

@@lucifer1809 I think Bjergsen and Ludwig are friends. QTCinderella, his girlfriend, and Aiden, his friend and one of his podcast co-hosts, are explicitly on a first name basis with Bjergsen, Aiden even going to festivals with him, mentioned on the pod.

[@famyos2745]

if bjergsen was playing like this he'd be the greatest actor of all time

[@maxbonerstorm9846]

That first clear is 100% not a high elo jungle, lbr

[@coffeeeed]

I love how Lud paid for caedrel coaching at charity auction and i’m over here just syphoning coaching tips caedrel is giving out

[@lonebriefcase]

He improved a lot from the fiddle shenanigans

[@ElyskeTheDonut]

Legit looks like Iron IV to Bronze 1 gameplay

[@UnusGrunus]

i mean i think he used to be bronze 1 but then took a break, makes sense that after 10 games hes back to his prior form. league especially is one of those games where the controls feel mega janky if you haven't played in a while

[@BuyHighSellLo]

@@ElyskeTheDonutnah man his decision making here is lowkey gold level. watch some gold jg VODs. A lot don’t even play as well as him

[@SwitchIT-Dev]

A Caedrel and Ludwig series would go crazy

[@koutroubasathanasios7322]

They will 100% end up in a bromance

[@jdmd3247]

Free content for both, sounds like a great deal tbh

[@benjaminparker5044]

Hoping and praying

[@KrizzlerYT]

I'm actually impressed by Ludwig's improvement. Also, Amumu is crazy in lower elo. Works well with mages and has great CC.

[@prodbytukoo]

only low elo?

[@Kusari_Yarou]

5:46 caedrel might be giving a lil too much credit to iron players here, bro probably didn't look at the map once after minions spawned 💀

[@cicadaluk4186]

M

[@nikkof5384]

The Q right after your time stamp where he is aiming for his Cho thinking he’s the enemy because he’s closer to red side tower is where I called it.

[@hans12797]

Ludwig actually unlocking and locking his camera is a massive improvement as well. It was insane to see how the first caedrel tips all were improved on by ludwig.

[@zefraim1042]

It starts with these coaching sessions and then one day, Sally will go to NA to taste some pizza and junk food and put them on a tier list

[@antediluviano]

cant wait for the "i made a league coach eat every item from mcdonalds" video

[@thiamond3]

I like how patient Caedrel is here, with explaining everything and giving clear examples

[@xXRaion98Xx]

Coaching League to beginners without making it overwhelming is almost impossible.

[@zingthegnar]

Yeah. Telling someone what they did wrong is easy. Telling them something that they understand and can learn from is harder

[@epaine_]

@@zingthegnarI’m a Ludwig fan who’s been enjoying the league arc and ur so right. I can’t imagine trying to play that game without studying for hours. Like I can shit on some intermediate bots but I don’t even want to go play real matches cuz I’ll be a garunteed loss for my team.

[@Franklii21]

Well yes because of fundamentals. Just like every skill people has honed, they start doing things without thinking too hard because their fundamentals have been practiced countless of times. A lot of times, these fundamentals are acquired through just playing (and analyzing for none casuals), but when a professional info dumps those fundamentals all at once that you would have progressively learned throughout your time spent into the game, it will definitely be very overwhelming. Then ofc there's players that play casually and a lot of fundamentals get left out from their progression into the game, which is where coaches really shine

[@GEM4sta]

It's pretty easy really. He is wayyyy too in the weeds, keep it simple, just farm all the camps over and over, look at a lane if they're super low health, go kill them by going behind them and landing a Q. If you miss your first Q, wait for the second, if you don't have a Q, return to farming. General rule of thumb, never ever chase without a Q, just go back to farming. Mid game, continue farming, as you are doing camps, look for opportunities to Q over the wall, any fight that you can take with R is good. Late game, stay with your team and just look for ways to Q onto someone that doesn't have a lot of health. General tip, once you Q them, they are stunned for a moment, take a few steps toward their teammates before Ring. This is basically all you need to play Amumu at a silver level. Don't really worry about anything else, don't even try to get skuttle just B at the end of your path if there's nothing to clear

[@dioxide39]

at first its definitely the hardest shit ever trying to teach a new League player about fundementals, but worry not they'll eventually develop more and more muscle memory as they play more games or learn more about the game via youtube/vod review/coaching. With Caedrel's coaching im very confident he'll be able to climb to Bronze in a month max

[@Ratzy1614]

lud is cracked now, hes gonna carry caedrel to rank 1

[@PatrickJohnQ]

I will watch this saga forever, this is peak

[@Unknownaccount829]

I actually hope some players watch this video before starting jungle role. Its not a position to either simply go rpg farm 24/7 or gank 24/7 without a reason, and you should also know how to properly use your pings + *have map awareness* . League of legends for laners is a game where you have to put 80% focus on laning and 20% on map, but for jungle role you have to have 80% focus on map and 20% on camp rotation.

[@GEM4sta]

20% focus on the map is why laners suck, in lane you should be looking at the map only slightly less than the jungler.

[@zabrac1566]

​@@GEM4sta I mean this is true, but it has to be considered that skill level at which this would be norm is much higher than the skill level where it is the norm for junglers. As skill approaches infinity, the roles homogenise a bit. For example, at very high skill brackets, it will be just as important for your Jungler to know Top wave is crashing, as it is for your top laner to know it. Similarly it will be just as important for your top laner to know which camps are spawning (both allied and enemy) as it is for the jungler. I think you'd already be looking at low Master tier or high diamond laners by the time their map awareness would be matching a emerald jungler's and the reverse would be true. Low master tier jungler to recognise the intricate lane state at a given time. For truly average people, such as those in Plat and below, Junglers will have better general map awareness than laners at the same skill bracket, but also have worse lane awareness.

[@bluerum896]

eh not really for the jg comparison. it's actually the other way around. your camp pathing is your income and the equivalent of laning. one of the bigger weaknesses of ludwig is actually his "camp rotation" where he is inefficiently pathing to things on the map and idly waiting for a full 20 seconds for no reason. this makes any jungler feel lost because in the back of every jungler's mind, those 20 seconds could have probably been spent on a camp or two that they skipped. i'd actually say junglers in lower elos actually put way too much focus on the "80%" map (objectives/ganks) and neglect their next "20%" camp cycle. 8:51 they overfocus on objectives on the map and path straight to them, when the better play objectively is to just cycle the next set of camps while pathing to the objective here ludwig decides to take just wolves + gromp instead of the more efficient pathing of raptors +wolves + gromp -> drake 13:20 they look for very awkward ganks and give away their location, making it even more unlikely, and all the while, the next sequence of camps are already spawning. keep in mind that this whole sequence of taking dragon was so inefficient that by the end of the play, the wolves are already spawning which means in the entire 2minute15second sequence of taking wolves, we only got 1 drake, 1 gromp, 1 scuttle. not to mention, we missed an entire cycle of raptors + krugs that are going to even be further delayed into their next cycle since wolves + gromp + blue has spawned again. i'd say camp pathing is much more fundamental to jungle otherwise you're running around like a headless chicken to things on the map but with no sense of tempo

[@mustard9933]

i learned something

[@MrAchsas]

hes getting better pog

[@MrAchsas]

he actually went from like full iron mode to like mid silver very nice

[@repriat6846]

​@@MrAchsashe's still very bad silver players are better than this lol

[@adammac6132]

bro bought the starter potion to be his jungle companion.

[@GCOSBenbow]

He still gets confused a lot and just wastes time wandering about doing nothing, thats like the main negative atm. Obviously his mechanics need work etc but that just comes from playing more.

[@adamfifield5044]

the funny part about 14:35 is the kai'sa flashed in a straight line backwards instead of flashing behind the amumu

[@flu1d885]

Neeko

[@ItsLoftyyy]

16:03 I think Caedrel wants Ludwig to unlock his camera

[@catsinspace1375]

Let him Costream worlds finals with u

[@bellor123]

hell no a guy with the same knowledge of a iron player would ruin caedrals whole costream

[@namaewakira7790]

cant believe it... this guy ganked top 2 times in 10 minutes yet my plat games im getting pushed in tower for 15 minutes with enemy not setting up any vision and I'm left for dead 💀

[@azzopnaw1749]

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@darkgrundi9543]

it's way easier to gank an overextending iron player who will probably just fall over as soon as someone glances at them than the average plat Player who has hopefully way more map awareness and know how to outplay. Not to mention the current top meta is afk farming, cause adcs are broken, which means bot is top priority no matter what.

[@isaacrodriguez4490]

I felt like i was in jail with that locked screen

[@Matsupitsu2nd]

Tyler should review his game it would be so good content

[@jesseliddelow6409]

A worlds viewing party of Cadrel Tyler1 and Ludwig after his redemption arc would be SO funny and would probably give quality commentary from 3 different player backgrounds. Plus, the ludwig/Tyler1 redemption arc surely isn't finished.

[@PaiThePie]

Caedrel is so respectful in his way of saying things.

[@sjmo5829]

5:20 he 100% thought cho was the enemy laner with that q

[@alexgillespie4622]

When Ludwig figures out that jungling is speed running he'll lock in

[@_knighted]

he's addicted xdd

[@kuyap9455]

fine, i too will sell that potion before game ends. learning

[@kuba7170]

NOWAY 2 of my favourite english speaking streamers havo collabo

[@NaerVnsk]

win win for both, Caedrel getting more rat viewers from Ludwig and Ludwig getting rats to watch and make fun of him during his stream, now we need a live free coaching

[@Bluumpuut]

Cant wait for ludwig to react to this, and then caedrel reacting to that again xdd

[@hunterphillips9754]

"im saving my smite for next game FCK i did it again.." xDDDD ludwig hilarious

[@BDuckie100]

6:00 why do I feel like Lud did that big brain gank bc he doesnt look minimap and didnt even process Skarner was there, but not close enough to counter

[@henryconner780]

im way too invested in LudWigs climb lol

[@yahavrx1327]

Can't wait for these two to play together

[@SlapDash69]

I'm really enjoying these reviews. I'm an emerald support, but I don't really have much knowledge about jungle decision making.

[@smokelingers9857]

How is that even possible? The next person you connect with beyond ADC is your jungler.

[@SlapDash69]

@@smokelingers9857 because I can understand what my jungler wants to do whilst also knowing absolutely dick all about clear speed optimisation and jungle camp levelling etc

[@smokelingers9857]

@@SlapDash69 I guess. I kinda play all roles outside of mid lane, so in that sense I admit I don't know instinctively what a mid laner's lane experience is like. Feels like it's just cheater recall, shove and roam, but I'm sure there's more to it. That being said, I do still find it a bit intriguing that you can be Emerald, not know what a jungle clear entails, and claim to know what a jungler wants to do. Did you just grind games ad infinitum and figure out the body language? lol

[@Xoohu]

5:22 I'm pretty sure aatrox moved his sword into mumus Q path so it gravitated toward him for the connect.

[@gugamanel137]

What happened was Lud was standing in the river. The height difference means aatrox's model is slightly to the right of his true hitbox, so the Q actually connects. This is a known (and heavily disliked by the community) "mechanic"

[@thedancingphantoms4004]

Love these vids, keep up the good work

[@Zalied]

their is a pretty large difference in judge of skill when its 10 games on vs 1 game after a long while of not playing.

[@jakeheez]

ludwig absolutely had someone in his ear during this game no shot, it's so obvious

[@Wuruhi.]

I just started playing league again how do people get those respawn timer on their map? I'm pretty sure it's a third party kind of thing right

[@Pinat885]

blitz app

[@falinestixiaolong9691]

@@Pinat885 Is that still legal ? I thought Vanguard would kill all the 3rd party apps.

[@Burnerhit]

​@falinestixiaolong9691 it's perfectly fine within tos, since blitz professor etc have been vetted by riot themselves

[@brammutje15]

lud improved so much with these 12 games u just know hes gonna fall into crippling lol addiction for a while

[@Weebfox]

We are so back

[@antekarendacz2693]

10:51 Word „dive” doesn’t exist in iron and bronze trust me haha I know it’s helpful to know but You have to climb a long way before people do things like that

[@EmpyrIsAesir]

theyre monkeys, if you spam ping they will go in with you and die with you at least if wavestate says you can dive just dont think that they know what you are thinking because these monkeys need spoonfeeding, you have to shove the food in their mouth for them to think that your call is good.

[@xyz_abc123]

I wish he also watches the last game of that vod

[@toast5614]

Masterclass coaching

[@SablexFlag]

Damn the improvement is insaaane

[@denka7898]

This game Ludwig unlock the skill called having 3 winning lanes. It is impressive how he mind controlled his laners especially low elo mid adc to be useful.

[@krach2996]

From Iron to silver IV pog

[@antediluviano]

ludwig climb to gold will be so fun to watch (he made a bet with his GF, shes a league player for years)

[@gammie8191]

Lud isn’t in addicted he just plays what’s good for content

[@NoahBVF]

someone lmk when the ludwig reacts to caedrel reacts to ludwig video is up

[@Squidmoto3]

Not gunna lie he looks actually x10 better this game than before. Even just the fact he's looking around the map is big. I think at this level he could already get low gold which is like better than 50% of players.

[@arky5674]

You might give people the wrong idea about camp levels with the incremental level explanation

[@Linkingx2]

Its so insane how this is iron in 2024 but 10 or so years ago this level of clear would be "high" elo... modern Irons would blast challengers from 30 years xD

[@GlandMaster-w9n]

the thing is in 2015 for example a huge percentage of people playing were newbies. lets say around 15% of people were playing for less than a year. it means that low elo is mostly just newbies who are trying to learn the game. in 2024, only like 2% of people are new to the game, so to fill iron and bronze riot must put other more experienced and better players there

[@Linkingx2]

@@GlandMaster-w9n well that might be true, Sounds reasonable, but isnt he a beginner? Ludwig I mean.

[@smokelingers9857]

Maybe, but if you switched their places, the high elo players from back then would've started out much stronger now and the iron players of today would have quit the game because they'd be getting dumpstered and not be one KZbin video away from fixing all their mistakes. The quality and availability of information is completely different between 2014 and 2024. Oh, and another thing, many players back then were transitioning from other MOBAs like DotA and HoN that had more mechanically and intellectually demanding mechanics. We weren't bad players, we just didn't have such refined concepts of League.

[@Linkingx2]

@@smokelingers9857 I know, and I dont want to disrespect these old greats, since on their experience and knowledge was modern league build; it took years to get to this state; and even in "modern" league it took like 2 3 years to adapt to no sight stone for example; There is so much knowledge for free and so many courses one can take; and for mechanics, there is practice tool and people have way better pcs and internet connections... I just wanted to highlight how far we have come, the lee sin insec was a mind breaking play performend by one of the very best of his time; not even silver or gold players (idk) can do it occasionally. Not even comparing that to what the average 15 year old chinese Lee Sin main does in URF xD

[@smokelingers9857]

@@Linkingx2 Yeah, even Flash combos weren't really all that known or decidedly good. Trying to follow the few good guides out there meant you had to filter through build write-ups or forums. It just felt like an arduous task and the metrics by which you could evaluate which information was worth your time weren't easily recognizable as such. The newschool players are definitely better in a very direct 1:1 comparison of who is doing more advanced things in League. Jungle especially is a role that greatly benefited from the information boom, but one thing I definitely think oldschool League players had was mental edge. You wouldn't write your jungler an essay after you lose your level 1 trade and proceed to sprint it down on respawn. At the worst you would last hit as best as you can and try solo the opponent again when Ignite came off cooldown. Maybe you'd have to type in all chat to combat your opponent's "?" or "noob" message, get inside their head by saying "fu" or "try it again." The team flame was actually more of a discussion and sometimes when you said "smd", what you really meant was "you've got a point, now let's win." Man, I miss it...

[@sidawan9297]

5:21 excuse me, what was that hitbox? xd

[@bendystrawz2832]

Inception video coming soon. Hi Ludwig :)

[@azitnox7128]

I will admit he plays better than me on some games

[@Metallikatzz]

5:50 not true. I have 0 map awareness and would never of seen my jungler taking scuttle there unless he pinged. or the scuttle roamed up to my ward.

[@Metallikatzz]

I always play like my jungler isnt there. Most of the time I prefer if they dont gank in low elo. I know I can mirror my lane or win. If a random wild card comes to top lane they usually lose.

[@RussianSpy4632]

I wanna see the vod he replaced this one with. The like 35 min gamr

[@SuomenPaska]

I don't get why new players or players learning jungle in general just don't hop into a custom game and learn as fast and/or efficient clear as possible there. It's even better now when you don't usually get a leash.

[@smokelingers9857]

There's a KZbin channel dedicated to fast clears on the latest patch. 3 mins 30 sec at most and then you just go try it in practice tool 10 times.

[@SuomenPaska]

@@smokelingers9857 Yep.

[@KVenturi]

He improve a lot wtf

[@fuwu9904]

now I want nothing more than seeing ludwig get decent at league of legend with the help of rats

[@ammarahmad4872]

what is the program that he used for drawing on the screen ?

[@RobloxLOL415]

Glazing

[@shahilrai7697]

how does Ludwig have all the skins

[@After3ights]

yo sub in ludwig instead of inspired , he is cooking on the amumu

[@stefan-ng9jr]

canyon gaming after 10 games xdd

[@pablopereira4632]

Conqueror is troll, reverb all day

[@rinripark]

That neeko flashed away from Caitlyn R instead of just flashing behind one of their team mates?

[@crystalvulpix20]

its iron

[@alogentforbin7190]

new players always play jungle and always amumu...

[@DragunnitumGaming]

The Cycle continues

[@calvinvos6948]

what app is ludwig using for his camp timers?

[@erikf3506]

Blitz, its rly nice

[@aley26]

Hold awn why is this part 1 how long was this review

[@exoski4730]

Like 1 hour

[@Daiki_Aomine]

So wait.. we just not gonna get the game that he runs it down?

[@Gashiu]

6:13 height difference

[@ryzeking33]

he should play ryze

[@Kraxhor]

Let's goo!!!

[@Idksomerandomhandle]

I would love to see this more as a shit league player. Maybe this could be a series with ludwig

[@Lokaria1]

3:03 no, cause small wolfs die anyway

[@IRP1804]

CHAT this is NOT ludwing. he probably had another high elo coach in his ear, but muted for stream telling him what to do. The decision making is too solid and too fast for an iron player He is either being coached and pulling a classic ludwig scam, or he might be goated at video games

[@andjob4060]

is auto spell cast not better then q and click ???? and hes defo got some 1 coaching him .. hes scamming its lud hes defo scamming

[@Workplaylister]

League is so easy if you don't panic. Yea you will sometimes lose games due to teamates but that's every multiplayer game really

[@leviyoder296]

is ivern a good champ to learn jungle on?

[@fluxdesiqn97]

its bad to learn on as its not like any other jungler but I guess it gets you used to thinking about your camps

[@leviyoder296]

@@fluxdesiqn97 True hes very different. I thought being able to focus on camp management would be helpful. usually a support main so he fits that achetype too

[@leviyoder296]

@@fluxdesiqn97 Who would you reccomend otherwise?

[@ndnd7614]

@@leviyoder296 udyr

[@keinen.0824]

​​@@leviyoder296master Yi 😂😂😂 all you do gonna do is auto attack people to death

[@dieselgoinham]

Who is ludwig

[@AndreiTache]

He's from videogames

[@fibbintiggins2858]

​@@AndreiTache Lmaooo

[@Shvgo]

Bang

[@khaipinaulak485]

i mean amumu is just op

[@idiosyncrasy7703]

He still did a lot of stuff right for someone who just started playing the game, tbh.

[@hamxz2]

If that's what you've gathered from this game then you have absolutely no idea what's going on. Nobody gives a shit about his ability to land Amumu Q and R or his scoreline. What's impressive is his improvement in macro and micro-movement in only 10 games. Hell, I know gold junglers that don't think like Ludwig did in this VOD

[@lazcanovzq]

Meow

[@roland4963]

jg camp has lvl?

[@lookatmysausage]

yes, p sure every time its killed it increases

[@ayckrazon]

yes, it's riot's way of dumbing down the game. Invading doesn't take the enemy jg out of the game anymore

[@bigsmoke4592]

yes respawning camps are stronger but i think they also give more XP

[@dragonlorddl982]

yes it levels up during the game but needs to be killed to level up

[@castorrodentia2954]

@@ayckrazon What do you mean? Did it work differently before?

[@basis7089]

dafuq is this gaslighting, "some pro junglers dont do this" if i do it in my master/gm games im sure pros do it too

[@wolvewick4414]

jungle is bad players role. hahaha

[@Trollthem]

this ludwig seeking attention lmao

[@arugula517]

Literally how

[@ItsxCreationZ]

this COMMENT is screaming for attention

[@thomasryan7987]

"what happens when you play jungle with 3 losing lanes?" you lose the game

[@BigJoe86]

looks like hes trying off lock cam as well good for him!

[@darkgrundi9543]

unlocked cam is overrated, only needed for specific champs like Zac and Xerath, so long as you still look around the map there is literally no benefit to unlocking it for the whole game.

[@BigJoe86]

@@darkgrundi9543 tell me you dont play league without telling me you dont play league. lmfao

[@darkgrundi9543]

@@BigJoe86 sry that you never hit diamond in your life lmfao.

[@BigJoe86]

@@darkgrundi9543 lol

[@kalsvares]

caedrel is good at the game but this is absolutely awful coaching for an iron player