40K - ASTARTES HISTORY - PRIMARCH to PRIMARIS | Warhammer 40,000 Lore

[@Luetin09]

- I've added timeline timestamps - As we are well into 2020 the Space Marines seem something I should put off no longer, despite still having some other races and factional elements I need to cover in the wider galaxy of 40K it seems the right time to begin the process of covering the Space Marine’s. While it is tempting for me to go all in on a weighty singularly comprehensive video that covers every possible detail of a legion/chapter, from experience this would become an all consuming sprawling multi-hour video that would likely take me months to create - I want these instead to be consumable and not hinder production of other material each month. I was all ready to leap straight into the first Legion… but then I realised in order to properly begin this series, it must establish how this all began. So this is a deliberately condensed version which I think hits the key elements from the beginning to the Primaris - so that I can continue on from there. Lastly I’ll say that as per usual anything or anyone I’ll omit related to a legion’s history or events will be by choice, to either save time, or pin til later.

[@honeybadger006]

@Luetin09, would you happen to have any thoughts on why some of the Primarchs developed strong psychic abilities while others did not, despite all being sons of the Emperor?

[@ferrusmanus4013]

YOU ARE WEAK

[@FStuettgen]

Hey Luetin09, many thanks for another great video. Any way you could get in touch with the guy who made the astartes clips?

[@MegaHarko]

Yepp... that's Luetin: A condensed version with a mere runtime of nearly one and half an hour xD

[@pointcache]

Thank you. Like actually, you save.

[@grasstoucher274]

I literally have no interest in playing the actual game but I can watch these videos all day.

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Soulstorm is great

[@JohnnyTromboner]

Right? The tabletop seems like a soulstealing money dump but the lore is just great.

[@Majkelnoodle]

I’m the same dude

[@_hector__]

Thanks, we really needed to know that

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

@@JohnnyTromboner soulstorm Bro with ultimate apocalypse mod

[@Lordradost]

Last time I was this early, the Emperor was still a group of dank shamans having a bad trip. Thanks, Luetin.

[@andyb1653]

Shamans: Wait, *HOW* many of us need to die to make this Emperor guy? Malcador: Uhh.... All of you? Except me ofc Shamans: OK seems legit, we trust you Malcy! Malcador: **pents fingers** yeeeess.. goooood

[@bernhardvonbarret1729]

I believe this is not cannon, in fact the origins of the Emperor are shrouded in Mystery as the Origins and how Politicians Amass such wealth with their salaries as such... XD

[@Lordradost]

@@andyb1653 That's why his symbol is "#1", amirite?

[@draxthemsklonst]

The spice agony.

[@heinrichmuller7974]

and here i thought his early form was when he got elected prez in 2016

[@spethmanjones2997]

Astartes episode 5 followed up with an hour and a half of LT Space Marine goodness? You guys are holding back the darkness of this quarantine-thanks for yet another impeccable piece of content (only just started it, but I already know I'll love every second)!

[@Apastorfield]

Hard agree

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

WTH is your thumbnail, man?

[@LordNithilus]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 Appears to be a emu with a photoshopped set of teeth.

[@THESIXTHEGG]

Nith could be an ostrich

[@thefeleapz4144]

Nurgle’s Rot is being suppressed

[@ts25679]

The torturous process from Space Marine to Primaris is represented by the pain you feel in your wallet as you update your armies.

[@richard-4655]

To which I ask, when does the price become too great?

[@RecklessFables]

I dropped out ten years ago. If I can play my old models in 9th without getting stomped by the new ones, I might come back.

[@timandshannon03]

I just picked up a squad of Hell Blasters! Been 25 years since I built anything! It's like riding a bike, just without Slotta Bases! LoL

[@tarkhan15]

@@RecklessFables Honestly, playing 8th against old marines, tacticals and devastators can still put out a lot of shots. Scouts are still great at forcing someone to pay attention to a point (or gathering victory points if they don't go for them). Only having one wound, and armor saves not being as relevant makes them a bit squishier than in 7th and before. That said, this is just my experience fielding sisters or admech against them in a pickup store match (Oh I miss those...) and I don't consider myself anywhere close to a tournament level player.

[@bluthammer1442]

I tapped out. Fantasy and 40k both started changing hectically. It's a FUCK TON of money i invested over 15 years in both, not to mention time. 40k is now moving a different direction. My sets are boxed and done and dusted. Tapping out of this madness hahaha

[@renbergps]

Well done, Luetin! On behalf of us "newbies" to the 40K universe, thank you for keeping your videos clear and concise. I know it must be easy for those of you who grew up with this, to want to just go off on these subjects that you learned quite some time ago, but for us newbies, this is one of the most intensely detailed universes I've ever encountered. I patiently await your next video, sir.

[@redsampler2017]

yup ive been following it since 2004 and over these 16,5 years ive learned something new everyday.. and the end is never in sight..

[@K4inan]

Consice? His videos are an hour long xD

[@pnwraider220]

I actually don't mind that their an hour long. I listen to them when I'm at work

[@pyroplays2017]

I was born 2002 saw didnt no anny thing

[@brothermaleuspraetor9505]

@@pyroplays2017 Everyone has to start somewhere. Even the old, rusty venerable veterans need new blood to carry the torch to the darkness, bringing new light to the Emperor's Realm. The Emperor protects.

[@KitKatHexe]

"we all know about those who deal in absolutes" Are you implying that the god-emperor is a Sith Lord?

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Good... good...

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Well, considering he donned the mantle of Emperor and took control by force...

[@davisdf3064]

Not gonna lie, he would be a good one

[@poltergeist4288]

I mean he clearly isn’t an engineer, first rule of engineering my father taught me was “never deal in absolutes”

[@kido2577]

The emperor probably has committed more atrocities than a dozen of sith lords combined for the sake of humanity.

[@MadMax-09]

Omg, Astartes, and now this....I’m getting spoiled

[@ferrusmanus4013]

YOU ARE WEAK

[@Tacoguy1000]

@@ferrusmanus4013 Vulkan would fight you over these words.

[@GUTZ420]

As thanks to big E, you shall now join us brother in fighting Nurgel by going outside and punch the corona demon in the face 👊 don't forget wash your hands after 👍

[@happyhammer1]

The second Trailer for Angel's of Death is pretty good too.

[@rustyzipper19]

Ferrus Manus Skost is not friend.

[@maxkraus9614]

"A literal embodiment of war itself" *Unrelated image of Angron*

[@andyb1653]

Angron = a bulldozer personified

[@MuShinnen]

How is Angron, the giant red winged demon of khorne not related? The dude who is known as the oathbreaker, and the betrayer, the Red Angel, and the Lord of the Red Sands doesn't look like the embodiment of war? The man's wargear is the armour of Mars, and he owned two chain axes called gorefather, and gorechild.

[@xenon3990]

MuShinnen it was a joke...

[@MuShinnen]

@@xenon3990 Hard to tell on the internet. I've had people seriously tell me things that should have been jokes.

[@cobytang]

@@MuShinnen Woooooooooooooooosh

[@Volvith]

Me at 10PM: "Just one Luetin video won't hurt, right?..." Me at 4:42AM: _"ALL PRAISE THE GOD EMPEROR, FOR HIS BEING IS DIVINE. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS, THE EMPEROR WILLS, AND SO, WE FIGHT."_

[@JD-td6oh]

Hilarious, I did the same exact thing brother. For the EMPEROR!!

[@paulwalker5225]

Me driving the truck from coast to coast at 3am: Nice! New Luetin video couldn't hurt After 5 minutes driving 200mph: *may Astronomican shine before my path*

[@Victorgreat4]

Damn this is me!!

[@zig7895]

I see a strange glow outside my window. My mother says that I've binge watched youtube the whole night and it's now dawn. I say the holy light of the emperor is upon me.

[@uriahvoltairealt]

Every. Single. Night.

[@gamezob]

57:02 "And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge." Love that 'Lord of the Rings' reference.

[@The_ZeroLine]

Nah, The Emperor wrote that thousands of year before AND after Tolkien.

[@raycearcher5794]

"What's that guy's deal?" "He's an angel." "Wow! How about that dude?" "He's a werewolf." "Woah! What do you do?" "I'm space Genghis Khan. But I've got a sweet mustache."

[@craigwinter3792]

I like to go fast.

[@mrjack901]

I will pick Space Genghis Khan and the Sweet Mustache and Bikes any day of the week over Werewolf and Angel.

[@LordStarFire]

and whos that guy? he´s bob the builder but bigger and yellow

[@instantjizz]

"What about that huge dude in the green?" "Ohh him? Hes unkillable and like to give hugs"

[@stevepalpatine2828]

What about the big guy with the metal dreadlocks in the corner muttering to himself and scowling?

[@asemampoumogli6368]

The storytelling and editing are continuously getting better and better in this channel, this video was amazing in both respects thank you so much for your work!

[@ICrazySkills]

83 minutes of Leutin?! Just as I was going insane in self isolation?! The emperor really does protect

[@ferrusmanus4013]

YOU ARE WEAK

[@andyb1653]

@@ferrusmanus4013 And Fulgrim took your damn head off, how are you even watching KZbin

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

A good chunk of Eternal War sure breaks the tedium of mere existence.

[@Ekklo]

Stay stalwart in the Light, my brother

[@anglocatholick]

THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

[@MrAbraxus666]

As much as I'm not a Dornian fan-boy, I felt summing him up as having the "mastery of building walls" was a mega understatement. I'd argue that he was gifted with the mastery of stubborness and defiance. As a master builder, including earthworks and fortifications if he chose to dig his heels in on a world (Iron Cage) very little could get him to feck off again. It was his stubbornness and defiance that led to the Imperial Palace being fortified so it wouldn't fall. It was his stubbornness and defiance that led him to attack a Chaos Warship and get his paws chopped off (because lets face it, he not dead).

[@PyrusFlameborn]

While his brothers are an unstoppable force each, Rogal Dorne is an unmovable object.

[@TroySpiral]

More of a half joke than an intentional slight.

[@KillerOrca]

He’s also a master of not giving a shit about peoples egos and self beliefs; Rogal Dorn Don’t Give A Fuck and he’s gonna tell you straight what he thinks no matter how it hurts

[@daviddines479]

I might describe stubbornness as vast reserves of willpower. Something Horus could have done with a bit more of. We wont mention Fulgrim.

[@ScampiTheSighted]

Pretty much proved correct, in the final Siege of Terra books his mastery of stubbornness becomes even more apparent. Definitely seems more like a distinct ability than a mere personality trait

[@CepheusTalks]

The Emperor being able to alter people's perception and memory of him seems correct, I found this in the novel Dark Imperium. The emperor had no need to hide his size from Guilliman so its likely a passive ability that he can't completely turn off.. either that or Guy Haley is going for something else here or perhaps no one in GW has thought about this issue Guilliman smoothly drew his father’s sword. Mathieu gasped. He had seen the Sword of the Emperor drawn on several occasions. Every time, he bore witness to a miracle. On leaving the scabbard, the blade burst into flame. Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. When the blade was removed from the Emperor’s withered knee and presented to Guilliman by the Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes, it had somehow fit his primarch’s stature. Guilliman frowned. He tried to remember how tall the Emperor was, but His living image refused to be caught and examined. In some memories, He was as tall as Guilliman; in others, no bigger than a mortal man.

[@Barnesofthenorth]

In 1 of the books of the Horus Heresy the Emperor specifically says he changes how he appears to people as his true face would kill the vast majority of people, even Primarchs, so ye he very definitely changes how people perceive him.

[@SurelyYewJest]

@@Barnesofthenorth Heh, funny how that mirrors Christian (Catholic at least) lore that the Abrahamic god would have the same effect on mortal men if they tried viewing him as he is. See also Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[@mikewillis9537]

I've never delved deep enough, mostly just watching these vids, but has anyone entertained the idea that the emperor could have been an actual chaos God? And that he got stuck in real space long ago, and that maybe if he were to be unplugged from the golden throne his spirit could return to the warp and back to his original God status?

[@fourfours9928]

@@mikewillis9537 warp entity? maybe. chaos god? no. he represents the total opposite of chaos

[@georgekerscher5355]

@@mikewillis9537 Back in parts of old 40k lore, it was theorized that the Emperor of Mankind's crusade against religion unintentionally helped to create a minor chaos god that is all about order and atheism

[@po801_4]

In the grim darkness of quarantine, there is only Luetin09

[@robertjahnigen424]

The Luetin protects.

[@ulrickguiliman4810]

@@robertjahnigen424 And his fellow brother Astartes. His part 5 documentary has been finally released

[@smolwavingsnail9028]

it is better to live for the luetin than die for yourself

[@CoHigh]

Just go about your life, if your an American we have a constitution, if your European... good luck God bless and pray the buercratic administration leaves you be.

[@dualityomk9854]

in the "grimdark" of the quarantine only dumbasses are bending over for their "masters"

[@kaibeargaming244]

You consistently post the highest quality videos I’ve ever seen on KZbin. Every single video is of the highest quality. Well done yet again. This is amazing, and just what I needed in this stressful time. Thank you Luetin. You’re the best!

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

It's genuinely incredible, right? I mean, there are many amazing 40k lore channels, but Luetin09 is arguably the best. You have people like Oculus Imperia, Baldermort, and 40k Theories, but Luetin does "epic" better than everyone.

[@allenpate4515]

I swear luetin arch alfabusa and oculus are my favorite channels

[@jeremyfisher1833]

Astartes part 5, check it

[@ulrickguiliman4810]

@@jeremyfisher1833 is he the brother for documentary for future generations to see?

[@ChopesForever]

If you like luetin's objective but personal take that is thorough and complete, I highly recommend my favourite KZbin channel LikeStoriesOfOld. He does the best film essays on KZbin, hands down.

[@tyskbulle]

Me: Trouble sleeping... Need a bedtime story. Luetin09: How about more tales of the grim dark future? Me: Perfect!

[@lordshadow3822]

I do the same and more horrific the better XD

[@Projectiveparticle]

Glad I'm not the only one haha

[@jonathonrobinson244]

that makes 4 of us :D

[@broseph6877]

@@jonathonrobinson244 5

[@hawitho4993]

6

[@Tokumastu1]

I just love the irony behind the creation of the Primaris. Cawl is someone that's looked down on by the astartes and yet it's because of him that the Primaris came into being and he manage to achieve a successful conversion for one of the most decorated chapter masters. The Omnissiah works in mysterious, yet logical ways.

[@gabrielandradeferraz386]

isn't everybody except the emperor looked down on by the marines?

[@Tokumastu1]

Depends on the Marine chapter

[@christytaylor5554]

So you agree, Crawl is a heretic as much as Horus is. Good!}}

[@runtergerutscht4401]

It's fittingly ironic that cawl, the mental successor of the emperor, is considered a borderline heretic by his peers

[@jonathanclark9584]

@@runtergerutscht4401 He's the only one with anything like the Emperor's vision!

[@Janovich]

51:54 My heart skipped a beat when I saw my own artwork featured in your video. Glad to see you putting it to such good use even if only a small part :)

[@Luetin09]

awesome :D I'll add a link for your chan in the vid

[@Janovich]

@@Luetin09 Thank you thats amazing. Your channel is the core pillar of my 40k knowledge, keep at it :)

[@Luetin09]

@@Janovich Thanks dude super kind words :D

[@orphanslayer6546]

How did this comment not have any likes or any sub comments

[@Reddotzebra]

"Our prayers have been answered, it's the Space Marines!" **Shot by Dark Angels for having seen too much**

[@glockenspiel604]

*Thrown into the warp by a Gray Knight for seeing too much*

[@grayeaglej]

Blood Angels strip the corpse and loot everything O.o

[@Grey646]

@@grayeaglej *Ravens

[@grayeaglej]

@@Grey646 Them too o.o

[@grayeaglej]

@Dilet Blud Ravnz: Take everything not bolted down, then take everything else and the bolts too, while Boltering anything that gets in the way. O.o

[@Atolocus35]

I know this is an imaginary universe, but I feel the heresy in my soul when Luetin talks shit about the emperor.

[@PuddingXXL]

@Cure4Living Yes Lord Inquisitor! This man right here!

[@Reignor99]

Christian -> Atheist -> Agnostic -> WH40K My journey

[@chrisoh8494]

Fuck man you made my day hahaha

[@louiswilkins9624]

Good stuff ain't it

[@felipewerner6670]

The crime is your foul existance, heretic, and the sentence is death!!!

[@mrwri]

"Then Games Workshop realized, what if we made SUPER Space Marines? And raise the prices again?"

[@will_of_europa]

The heretics flooded en masse to the eye of terror aka china recasts

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

Why im going to play Astra Militarum.

[@mrwri]

@TheSpojak19 I think at this point everybody but GW has figured that out.

[@gandalf8216]

Plot twist: Games Workshop is actually Tzeentch, Changer of Ways.

[@busterbackster1]

@@ConfusedGuardsman I know that pain, lots of money for a shit army :(

[@covenantfestival2207]

Since COVID-19, I have made a (small) part of my income by selling painted models on eBay. It hasn't made me rich, but it has bought me a couple trips of groceries. I couldn't have done it without listening to your vids while painting, Lutein. Thank you so much.

[@w4rpf1nnlad]

Thats awesome! Hope you are well, brother.

[@syvarris467]

That slip into Galadriel’s intro to lord of the rings was good

[@Luetin09]

It was actually not something I intended lol just as I was scripting this I was like hmm... this line sounds familiar XD

[@AnatoleMommeja]

@@Luetin09 This was so unexpected man I legit laughed out loud hahaha

[@zayl777]

Man, I was looking for this comment because I paused the video and for the life of me could not remember where the saying came from...

[@gamezob]

What, where?

[@syvarris467]

@@gamezob the “Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it”

[@SemNome-ds1qy]

Astartes part 5 and now this, what an Emperor's Gift.

[@Vollification]

Nurgle made Corona and the faithful fight back :)

[@mostlyjovial6177]

May your faith not falter in these trying times citizen.

[@99Plastics]

Almost like it's an attempt to ride the hype of that video.

[@happyhammer1]

@@99Plastics I doubt it. He spends a lot of time making these videos. It's a beneficial coincidence.

[@IsAcRafT]

Yup even in the darkest of times The Emperor Protects.

[@UGNAvalon]

Just as “The Council of Nikea” would come to be known as “The Trial of Magnus”, it seems that this “History of the Astartes” is more “A Condemnation of The Emperor’s Methods”. Needless to say, I think the Inquisition would have a word or two to say about this..

[@jinzo457]

"those who deal in absolutes." Sith confirmed in 40k.

[@christophercordero9352]

No shit, in the grimdark future of 40k all are huge assholes

[@rogermucroy750]

'Only a Sith deals in absolutes'. The irony of that badly written line.

[@fabricatorgeneralchadius1114]

@@rogermucroy750 that's the point its supposed to show hypocrisy

[@basstedson]

Sith lords would get bitched by the inquisition.

[@tequilawhiskey]

@@fabricatorgeneralchadius1114 thats giving too much credit i think. Even if it was intentional, Obi Wan shouldnt have been that vector.

[@zuriel6612]

1:19:50 I left YT on as I slept and when I awoke this morning, I was greeted with one of the most bad ass slide shows ever, excellent way to begin the day.

[@davea99]

I absolutely love how GW uses Ancient Rome as inspiration. The crossing of the Rubicon as Caesar did, is aptly named. "The Die is Cast."

[@basstedson]

@@Justanotherconsumer in this instance die refers to a model mold.

[@PeachDragon_]

Dado tracta est.

[@skynyrdjesus]

"Let the die be cast"

[@joshcharlton7029]

"This required to use all of his(The emperor) subtetly, his tack and fineness. His solution? To immediately unleash 3 proto space marine legions on Luna to bring it under imperial compliance.

[@ukahchiagoziem570]

Lmao

[@johnathanera5863]

The absolute pinnacle of tact that is.

[@hypnofrezzefan]

Sometimes its simply easier to erradicate the door whole.

[@powerflumi]

Considering how cuntish the Lunar gene cults where and what horrors they did that would make any dark eldar proud. Them getting a direkt visit by a shock assault of 3 legions was a rather tame answer

[@invigoratorpossibly]

@@johnathanera5863 ⁰0

[@armi999]

Good stuff, though I do feel Primaris have a bit of an uncomfortable real world aspect. Games Workshop wanted to expand their Space Marines range and existing lore limited that, hence the story you just told of the Primaris development. Having them just be better tramples over the idea of a Space Marine candidate proving themselves then working through scout/devastator/assault/tactical to become a well rounded flexible warrior. I think it'd been more interesting for the Primaris surgery to be something that was available to a Space Marine in a window of a few hundred years after their existing organs had fully matured (after they had worked through the disciplines) and serves as a specialisation rather than a straight upgrade. Instead of 3 extra organs have a range of potential changes that force them into a few roles, losing the flexibility they previously had for more specific power. Those Space Marines too old or that decline the Surgery go on to be the Veterans we know now, their experience used to lead younger squads or deploying as veteran assault/tactical/devastator squads or using terminator armour.

[@paulkielty8385]

I have only just got back into 40k. Last I played it I was 15. I'm 37 now and I love this channel.

[@andrewfontaine4833]

who else is here after the new game released

[@davidgrager3938]

That'd be me

[@Demonhornz]

"What if we had super soldiers, but BETTER?" "You mean Gray Knights? The DeathWatch?" "NO! SUPERER!"

[@Numtalegau]

Albeit i´m far from a lore expert, it seems to me that the "super" soldiers of the Astartes should be the Grey Knights and the DeathWatch. Demonic scum and Xenos filth stand no chance when they are upon the battlefield. But now.... Papa Smurf and his band of merry Smurfs. /Shrug

[@iamalpharius9483]

The Black Dragons? . The Excoriators? . . The Thousand Sons????? (Magnus did nothing wrong).

[@ferrusmanus4013]

He talks about the "Iron hands" space marine legion.

[@jonblankenship8363]

the custodes?

[@Sychius]

Iirc correctly the Grey Knights and the Deathwatch still outrank and outpower the Primaris marines, as do the Adeptus Custodes. The Primaris aren't all-powerful. They're stronger than your average Space Marine, but they aren't as tactically flexible and they have less experience in the battlefield (at least lorewise).

[@Manfromthenorth0551]

I always found it funny that many within the 40k fandom had much the same reaction to Primaris Marines that the normal Astarties had. Fear, Disgust, Confusion, Distrust, and Anger.

[@emiliocatxares5567]

No wonder space marines are the most popular faction in 40K. We all fear our that our precious minis would be replaced

[@zayl777]

Emilio Catxares or summarily executed en masse

[@scionofdorn9101]

Meh, having long since given up my Dark Angels, it was a chance for me to start Imperial Fists with glorious truescale marines.

[@Xenith230]

I always wondered why, primaris are cool

[@christophersalinas2722]

@@Xenith230 In the eyes of the firstborns? Probably because an entire new breed of space marine hid away in labs for ten millennia just appeared randomly. This same new breed was made by a distrusted figure of the Mechanicus who “tampered” with the emperor’s work. Also the fact that none of these Primaris understood the firstborn cultures or knew anything about them. Also the fact that the Primaris could make the firstborns obsolete.

[@vincentfox4929]

Thank the Omnisiah. As we endure nurgle's plague, we have luetin to guide us in this dark times.

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@Black Cat Rapture aye, brother. We stand fast

[@guy_autordie]

Astartes chirurgical process : traumatic. Primaris chirurgical process : more traumatic. Random astartes : Can I only have a third heart and a second liver?

[@hanjuhbrightside5224]

Hey man I just wanted to take a moment to say it's thanks to you that I finally got into 40k. My buddy threw on your lore videos and now I'm $600 deep into a Mechanicus army and it's all thanks to you that I have an idea of this extensive world and..... just thank you man. Whatever you're up to today, stand a little taller knowing you make positive changes for strangers you'll likely never meet but left a lasting impact nonetheless

[@antichronist8669]

You're one of the best lore youtubers out there, and as far as I am concerned the one with the best voice. A soothing, calm yet perfectly articulated voice talks about the grim dark future where there is only war, carnage and the laughter of the dark gods? Sign me up.

[@CarmineARK]

"This required all of his subtlety, his tact, and finesse" proceeds to throw 3 proto legions at a moon base.

[@jwb_666]

Instant like Luetin you are amazing and honestly one of the reasons why I love 40k without ever having touched a miniature (I know heresy in it's purest form) keep up the amazing work!

[@ferrusmanus4013]

YOU ARE WEAK

[@Sol_Invictus510]

Don’t worry, there are others out there who love 40k, but don’t play tabletop.

[@jwb_666]

@@ferrusmanus4013 and you are a blueberry

[@arsumbris6392]

17:20 - the Emperor used his own genes as the template for genetic surgeries and therapies that transform normal human men into Ubermensch giants. Seems reasonable that he might have used these techniques on himself prior to using them on others. We also know that his reincarnation / birth "changed his DNA", so perhaps the ability to change himself physically was one of the traits he possessed, with or without genetic manipulation.

[@tanburanbu]

Interesting. Actively fixing himself on a cellular level while on the Golden Throne, barely able to maintain not turning to dust.

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

1:19:49 - When Kingdoms Fall by Edgar Hopp

[@ladeeda3393]

ty

[@somtinwon4911]

Omfg thank you so much!

[@tomcrayford2360]

Thanks!

[@Shawn-lw3rn]

Thank you sir

[@derekdrake8706]

(I've been rereading the heresy books while in self-iso) The speculation that the Emperor made a deal with Chaos to create the Primarchs is pure speculation based on the words of a servant of Chaos known for deception. Anyone who'd give any credence to Erebus and other Warp-things is just twice damned in my opinion lol. He could've gained the power and knowledge from the warp any number of ways. Theoretically he could've even gained the knowledge from his future self. The warp makes anything possible. There's also the Black Library of course.

[@pointcache]

If you trust that text so much, make note that Emperor saw Horus as he stood in the chamber with gestation pods. He saw him and tried to warn, centuries before. So he knew that Heresy would happen long before. So the whole thing was left to execute as is, without Emperor trying to predict or change the outcome. He had all the tools at his disposal - science, imperial truth. Instead of denying the existence of chaos for the fear of corruption, he could same way approach it scientifically and classify as a physical phenomena of extreme danger. He could made his sons aware and prepared for the dangers of ruinous powers, he could instruct them how to combat chaos and the Imperium would be prepared from the very beginning. Problem is that Erebus was right, as he showed the future, it is truly what came to be. Does that mean the rest of what he showed Horus was true?

[@derekdrake8706]

@@pointcache pointcache So what you're saying is that-because of the events in the gestation chamber, The Emperor was fully aware of Horus' betrayal and did nothing to change the outcome? Between keeping Horus close and the Council of Nikaea, I'd say he at least tried. The problem is that he couldn't tell anyone about Chaos and I can see why: The Warp is where thoughts become reality and it had been corrupted by countless xenos species before humanity became psychically active. The only way to combat the forces of Chaos was to keep humanity innocent in ignorance while exterminating all cultures and religions with knowledge (or ideas) of such things as demons; especially every xenos species whose thoughts couldn't be controlled (we're talking about a galaxy where "wrong think" can literally destroy the universe). As for whether or not Erebus can be trusted.. well.. every great lie has a tinge of truth. What he showed Horus was a future that came to be because of his betrayal, not despite of it. It was all a lie, despite being the truth.

[@buddhapimp8890]

Derek Drake Papa Khorn thanks humanity for indulging in needless bloodshed and war.

[@SecondSince]

Taking any one in-universe source as completely accurate truth is crazy. This is 40k we're talking about. What is known is heavily dogmatized, scrutinized, altered to favor some side or person, completely fabricated, or any other method of alteration or subterfuge has been applied. No-one and nothing can be trusted to be truthful, let alone accurate.

[@derekdrake8706]

@@SecondSince "Everything is canon, but not everything is true." IIRC that's how the authors(?) see it. 40k is one of those franchises that encourages people to believe whatever they want, have their own headcanon, even make up their own fanfic.

[@flamingmuffin666]

end song is "The Sound of Fear" by Pharaoh Music but that also seems to be a more intense remix/master of "When All Kingdoms Fall" by Edgar Hopp

[@THExRISER]

Thank you.

[@rjnedlaw1]

I dont even play warhammer, save some of the video games. However the story is just so engrossing that I look forward to hearing the lore whenever I can, thanks!

[@spinnirack3645]

Every once and awhile I end up rewatching this entire video. Simply put you are an amazing narrator.

[@jdbeauchamp2919]

57:06 was hilarious 😂 for the record, I would enjoy hearing Lutin talk about every fictional history at this point

[@carlosthejakl8493]

"We know all about people who deal in absolutes" Big e is a sith confirmed

[@Zakiriel]

"He that is not with me, is against me." Jesus of Nazareth. Mathew 12:30

[@stevepalpatine2828]

I _am_ the Ecclesiarchy...

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

I love when you throw in those humorous references, right in the middle of something serious- “...and for two and a half thousand years, the ring...”- I choked on my pizza! And I was just about to start typing how I liked the “old film footage vertical lines” going back and forth across a supposedly historical video. This was a fantastic addition to your library of awesome content. Thanks- and I hope that you and your loved ones are safe and healthy.

[@housecoatgaming]

It can be summed up as thus: the Primarchs were the ultimate the Emperor could make, one step above the Custodes. Then came the Astartes, the legions to retake humanity's birthright. And when 9 lords and their legions fell, Gulliman ordered Cawl to create an improved version of Astartes for humanity's darkest hour. Let's be honest: the Astartes Firstborn were holding it back well and if things continued as they were, the Primaris would never have been woken. Them being woken is a sign of desperation for the Imperium. And for Games Workshop, because seriously, the stagnation of the plot had to be resolved SOMEHOW. You all begged for it and you got your wish: the plot has moved on. So quit your bitching already.

[@Nitram4392]

Thank you.

[@banneduser5187]

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan myself but that Luke Skywalker guy is pretty cool

[@ViktorBlaskov]

Primaris are just boring, it's just a different name. There's nothing unique about them, nothing interesting. They could have replaced the ultramarines or something, dunno. As it is, they're just not fun.

[@hypnofrezzefan]

I Like the Primaris. They got new Toys too.

[@murderousmayhem6362]

@@banneduser5187 Lol

[@messageinthebottle1673]

For some reason this video made me a Crawl fan because he is the last "true" scientists that the emperor himself supported and I love his picture at 1:02:38 this makes me realize why he is an awesome character as he both a mechanic, engineer, and a biologist and a scientists!

[@frankieb9444]

Their gifts reminds me of Demolition Man with John Spartan getting the gift of needle work while Simon Phoenix was gifted with hacking and killing skills.

[@jakesassy101]

HE WENT FOR IT, NETFLIX SERIES TIME

[@ferrusmanus4013]

YOU ARE WEAK

[@OakInch]

And yet, Obama got a Netflix series for some reason.

[@James-sk4db]

I want all guardsman party Netflix series first but yes luetin lore would defo be a good watch

[@bigmoe9856]

@@ferrusmanus4013 Shut your face Skost Manus, you are not Friend!

[@genesisswift384]

@Hakageryuu "Historically Racist" Lel dont mention near every country evers history, US history of Racism isnt even anyones history except the US's and its very little. A country that takes anyone from anywhere having one of the simplest and open borders throughout history points towards the opposite. Dont even @ me

[@deven6518]

I do feel that the emperor intended to dispose of the astartes and primarchs when the crusade was done. He never cared if they were broken along the way, so long as the task was done, for there would be no need for them to survive beyond. Afterall the primarchs, like it or not, were primarily warriors and not suited for ruling an imperium at peace. We did see him pull power away from the primarchs when the end of the crusade was in sight. Also, it's possible the emperor was a regular sized person. We do see him increase in size when he fought, as well as some people like le priest and corax seeing a regular sized man while weaker minds saw a golden figure.

[@killer45608]

K Estrado what about the apartments in the palace that were primarch size? I can kinda understand the legions maybe but not his sons. He loved a good amount of them and yes saw some as tools. But it’s been shown that he had plans for his sons past the crusade

[@preddes6522]

@@killer45608 you think the primarchs are going to let their sons be mass exterminated after fighting with them for millennia?....

[@preddes6522]

@Cure4Living I'm sure the emperor thought his custodes could handle it

[@killer45608]

Pred Des some didn’t care about their sons but if you read what I said, I said the word maybe

[@uglyweirdo1389]

The Astartes were built to lead as well as fight. Each legion and its genefather had a place waiting for them post crusade.

[@musafawundu6718]

This deserves an award like none other. Luetin, you are one of a kind.

[@Vollification]

"Wow you can't have everything can you?" Dorn: "I just build walls! STFU Corvax"

[@StretchReality]

But they're the best fucking walls this side of the great rift that you ever did see

[@sleipnirodin2881]

@@StretchReality *"A wild Vulkan appear..."*

[@StretchReality]

@@sleipnirodin2881 Does he give me a hug?

[@sleipnirodin2881]

@@StretchReality If you want, Vulcan and he's Salamander's are Good Lad's. *- Vulkan used "Hug"* *- ...* *- This is super effective!* *- ...* *- You suffer from hemorrhage* [ Especially with the "Body" of a Primarch, Haha! ]

[@scionofdorn9101]

Ask the veterans of WW2 if General Omar Bradley’s gift for logistics and defense were anything to be taken lightly. Never underestimate the value of strong walls, well stocked operations centers, and well defended supply chains, especially when it’s time to wage massive offensives.

[@BlimberryBoi]

12:50 corvus gift was hit and run attacks? what about being able to turn freaking invisible id say thats a better gift.

[@gandalf8216]

It beats being a God at building fortifications and defensive walls.

[@chrismushy3175]

@@gandalf8216 But they shall not pass!!! Gandalf

[@AProtokid]

"For two and a half thousand years, the ring passed- wait, im getting confused here." No i want to hear what you have to say

[@zayl777]

Watch "The Fellowship Of The Ring" ;)

[@morgothastartes]

Melkor is Chaos God confirmed

[@b33t]

Golem is the real Sith Lord

[@dualityomk9854]

the only ring getting passed in 40k is the cockring of Slannesh. Fulgrim got it first by handling a Slanneshi "sword"

[@pusiona]

Another top-quality video, I love the way that you explain everything concisely and build another layer of context and understanding of the greater Imperium with every video. You have single-handedly gotten me interested in WH:40k lore, and I even bought a few books, one of which is Cadia Stands, which I am currently reading. Great work as always, and I hope you keep it coming for a long time.

[@tovsteh]

Love your channel. I was never interested in the 40k universe until the Astartes short videos came out and your videos are definitely covering the lore in a way thats very amusing, easy to consume and informative.

[@alvavolsung2957]

I really enjoy your series, I have been into Warhammer 40k for about only two years now and listening to this while at work has really benefited me making me the second most knowledgeable on the lore in my group of friends.

[@arabiansandboa7466]

Excellent stuff as always. Once filed on volatile storage mediums, lost, found, redacted, and lost once more, I am sure the imperial citizens of the future will benefit from your work.

[@ed8212]

In the grim darkness of my evening, there is no sleep, only Luetin

[@declandoyle7328]

No gonna lie but you need to be on Spotify !!! 🙌🙌

[@DTOXTV]

This was an utter joy to watch and listen. Thank you Luetin. This can't have been easy.

[@devilichus]

Man... It was a serious history took my all night to finish as I missed and rewinded back and forth some but worth it...

[@davidkahil5158]

I stand by this statement "there is no loremaster of the 40k universe that equals Luetin09" I enjoy Wolf Lord Rho, but Luetin just takes it up a notch. I enjoy yours stuff just listening to you talk about what we all love so much. I pray Games Workshop takes you into consideration on planning where the Universe should go. Just a great mind for this stuff. Its almost like you are an author in the wings, if not an author someone who could plan how events would correlate to the 40k universe. Awesome job.

[@dripsteindrippin4829]

I don't remember where I read it, but basically, the Sisters of Silence see him as a normal man, and Corax also saw through the Emperor's shroud and saw that he was just about the most average dude you could imagine, in almost all aspects, including height. (I forgot which book though, but it might've been Deliverance Lost.) So, more realistically, it's more so that pre-Empire he used no shroud at all and only used a shroud during the Empire.

[@19CD91]

Then why is he giant on the golden throne?

[@USMC444817]

Hell Yeah the Dark Angels!!!!! Thank you for choosing my parent chapter for your next Astartes Project! For the Lion of Caliban and for Mortikah VII!

[@not-a-theist8251]

I really like Dorn's protocol. It's just a huge potential source of conflict among the astartes. Very interesting. Also loved that you used the Rubicon metaphor. That's really fitting.

[@franciscogutierrez818]

I listen to Luetin talk about warhammer almost every night as I fall asleep and its great

[@TheConfigurat0r]

Haven't played 40k for like 16 years but watched all your lore videos. Great content

[@benjaminkrafft5639]

Here I am, thinking imma go to bed. See this. "guess not"

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Thank you brother luetin, this was the one ive been waiting for as only you could do it proper. I watch about 7 to 10 of your videos a day i cant relax and go to bed without them lol. I was just thinking about a new video today, and its a hour and a half...beautiful.

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

How do you sleep with how epic these things are?! lol

[@ffejpsycho]

Well... Corvus Corax can render himself effectively invisible to all living organisms... So, I wouldn't exactly say he got off all that bad with that one... seems pretty damn powerful, if ya ask me...

[@ShahbazBokhari]

People always ask: how the fucks does a near 12ft tall gene handed human wearing hundreds of pounds of armour, be stealthy? That’s that latent Emperor brand Witchery.

[@PoppoYoppo]

I just listen to the playlist of all the lore at work and it makes time go by so much faster. Thanks for putting in the work to make these

[@zild3r]

Every video of Luetin09 is perfect for having in the background while you sleep

[@Taking20]

Bravo sir! Bravo!

[@prodigalsun5260]

I always thought one of the factors for becoming a space marine was compatibility with the gene seed and each lineage is unique to the point only those from Fenris can reliably become Space Wolves but I do not recall any other gene seed stock being so specific. However, with that in mind, I always thought the singular gene seed lineage made compatibility a less complicated matter compared to there being multiple gene seed stocks that would need to be sorted and categorized in a setting where planets can be forgotten and even Chapters can forget their own lineage like a Blood Angel's successor not knowing they were sons of Sanginius until the Red Thirst became problematic.

[@Unforgiven11]

Oh my god how did I miss this upload! I have been listening back through the catalogue and I am so excited to see some newer uploads too. You are hands down THE. SINGLE. BEST SOURCE of WH40K content on youtube. Your videos have given me a clearer understanding of the Lore of this universe more than any other person

[@darklros]

DAMN THAT OUTRO. Gave me the chills and almost brought a tear to my eye. ALMOST.

[@Apprentice1979pk]

The intro music is so awesome! Never played Warhammer 40K but I enjoy all your content about the lore. Thank you for making these.

[@jak12sam]

the music at 1:19:50 is And The Sky Shall Unfold 2 by Johannes Bornlöf.

[@jadavis805]

You sir are my hero

[@XtremeGrafix]

May the Emperor guide you brother for your selfless actions!!!

[@alfadasfire]

why aren't you higher up in the comments... this music is amazing!

[@jamiefrank261]

Dude....i love the videos. I've been playing 40k since 6th edition. Your vids have given me insight on a lot of background that truthfully I'm too lazy to read about. I do appreciate the video for what the truly are.

[@1985slipstream]

Surely Calgar was already at primaris level of strength and is now above a regular. And to be fair he was already missing half his body from the tyranid wounds he suffered

[@oskarwedlake-hatton8774]

I know nothing about Warhammer, have never played any games in any sense of the word, but your channel has made me incredibly interested in the lore and stories of the Warhammer universe. Great videos and narration, thanks for keeping me entertained in this lockdown!

[@diplodoctopus4241]

Apex lore. Master Class in 40K back story. This sets the bar so high, few could come close.

[@louisdavout7136]

Primarch #1: What gift did you get? Primarch #2: I'm immortal. What about you? Primarch #1: Uh, well, I can make a pretty mean sandwich. Primarch #2: Oh, well that could be handy.

[@ginjaedgy49]

ME : *Trying to find a film to watch during this lockdown* *see's luetin upload* this will do

[@Donmegamuffin]

HELL YES Bedtime listening is sorted for tonight!

[@alvarohernani6645]

As if we were in a hurry

[@Donmegamuffin]

@@alvarohernani6645 I take it you replied to the wrong comment lol

[@alvarohernani6645]

@@Donmegamuffin you are wright 😂, that being said, yeah, bead time is going to be shorter tonight

[@MagnusWallentin]

I've barely played any Warhammer 40K but I always love watching your videos. You're one of my favorite content creators!

[@megan00b8]

What also interests me is Alpha Primus - Cawl's personal space marine helper who was the first successful primaris prototype. He's much more augmented than the production primaris, which weren't all made that way due to difficulty of making, and also the fact that Primus spends all of his time suffering. Crawl's intention when making him was to create something akin to a promarch, but this plan failed, mostly likely because Cawl can make the physique, but he cannot weave a soul like the Emperor did. Primus is a potent psyker, however other psykers can't detect this unless he allows them. This if I remember correctly was somewhat disturbing to another space marine, a librarian who up until now had no issues telling his warp powered kin apart.

[@benkeogh3845]

Seen a comment recommending this channel. Well worth the watch

[@the_king_fish7336]

Best thing I have watched in 3 weeks of “Stay at home” lockdown.

[@TheHalfarsedHeresy]

Man, Chapter Master Valrak is going to throw a fit re: Dorn LOLOL Wall pointing mcpointface

[@RiotHRC]

Ive been watching you for the good part of a few months now. I have to say Im so thankful for this channel and your existence Luetin. Ive always had mental health issues, and sleeping is no easy task. More often than not I find myself staring into apparitions created by my mind or trying to silence the other people in my head. I started listening to your channel after my friend told me about warhammer and I wanted to learn more I started listening to you especially when Im trying to sleep and the past few months of sleep have been the best theyve ever been. Of course its still no small task but I just want to let you know how much easier youve made it. I have more energy during the day and Im happier, and I also get to learn about the insane 40k lore since Im also a lore junky. I know im just some random small person in a following of hundreds upon thousands, but if you ever find this comment I just wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep up the amazing work L, -Some random internet stranger

[@fin4889]

I love looking at the time on a leutin video, fully satisfied and content with what's already been said, just to see the bar is only half way through and you have double the juicy content to enjoy and relish in. Thank you so much, from all who resonate with this message.