Luftwaffe Ace | F-4E Phantom Dogfights Over Europe | Mig-21 Mig-29 | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@Galerak1]

"We were in the worst dogfight I ever dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky. His F-4 was hit, and he was wounded, but he could've made it back. He stayed in it, saved three planes before he bought it." - Viper (1986)

[@ronaldkonkoma4356]

Topgun Viper fan fiction here

[@jaredwren9304]

What a scrap that was!

[@Danko05]

Epic... Thanks for the reference... 👍🏻

[@gawddamnnotthisagain]

That ending sequence is utter insanity. No one leaving unharmed.

[@basecode8]

You get a missile, and you get a missile, and you... GET A MISSILE!!!

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

Whoever the window replacement guy is in that city just got himself a decades worth of work thanks to that supersonic air battle above his town.

[@davidworden1466]

No joke! Lol!

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

by the looks of it i think builders would also get some good business

[@LightningSaix]

What a chain at the end. F4 gets shot down by a mig-21, who in turn gets shot down by GS's f4, who in turn gets shot down by a pair of mig-21s, who in turn get shot down by another f4. What a furball lol

[@InitialP_Photography]

The Phantom is my childhood hero! Used to spend summer holidays in Leuchars in Scotland in the 80's with relatives and we were on the flight path for them landing, those memories will never fade.

[@jpteknoman]

I used to help my grandpa with his farm work in the summers and his farm was under the flight path of the F-4 training course. This and Area 88 made me want to be a pilot but my eyes didn't make the cut. I can still tell an F-4 apart from other planes just by the engine sound that's like a blowtorch.

[@johnhickman106]

I was up at Leuchars back in October. It’s a shame it’s no longer a fighter base.

[@InitialP_Photography]

@@johnhickman106 Aye, it's nothing now.

[@johnhickman106]

@InitialP_Photography It's still something, just a shadow of what it was unfortunately. We brought our CV-22s up there for just a few days. I love that area.

[@InitialP_Photography]

@@johnhickman106 I know it's been getting used again for the recent exercises with CW2 and the rotaries, maybe with the Putin Threats it'll be more active.

[@robbroadstock8637]

12:47 “This is no longer called flying, I’m out” LOL

[@F3CHT3R]

Nice to see some Gepards in Action…… 6:08

[@PaddyPatrone]

Needs some giant glowing mushroom clouds in the distance for more realism 😉

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Hahah so true

[@IMJUSTABANANA]

cold war gone not just hot but thermal scenario

[@a.n.7229]

"Returning to base... uh... scratch that... gonna put it down on a highway somewhere, I guess?"

[@omgsrsly]

That was really fun to watch! These old-tech battles feel much more energetic and starwarsy than the modern ones in their sterile sensor-heavy environment with those endless circling maneuvers or back-and-forth/engage-retreat BVR patterns.

[@nicomeier8098]

6:07 The Gepard got him - nicely done because time period accurate.

[@mortenBP]

Did that old beast of a Phantom soak 2 missiles before the 3rd took it out? Impressive!!!

[@CartoonrBOY]

This is far more interesting. The lack of awareness, the smoke & AAA, the hectic nature. It feels really authentic!

[@codychild2665]

Thanks for the great content, GS! HAPPY THANKSGIVING everybody!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Happy thanksgiving brother

[@45CaliberCure]

My brother had Thanksgiving out at a campsite for my family a couple of years ago and my sister complained that it wasn't "Traditional". I mean, what the hell is more traditional than a feast in the woods of Virginia? I don't think she'd like the eel pie and whatnot, but anyway it was funny. We've had pizza for Thanksgiving prior to that, so I don't know where that protest came from, but anyway, Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. I had a Snickers bar and a pack of Nabs today (and a lot of beer(s)). It's all good.

[@sbg911]

I honestly thought as I watched this, in what real scenario would German F4's face off against Mig29's? 2 different eras, surely? Then I read Germany did not retire its last F4's until 2013. You learn something new everyday...

[@T00dl3s]

Another thing to learn: The German F-4s got the F-18s Radar and AMRAAMs at some Point :D

[@tremelai]

The German Luftwaffe fielded F-4F variants until 2013. The F-4F was capable of carrying 4x AMRAAM AIM-120s. First F-4F test firing the AIM-120 taking place in 1992.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

I believe the the last models were G models, updated under ICE (improved combat efficiency) program. I was fortunate enough to see them at Cold Lake for their last deployment to “Maple Flag”. I loved seeing those jets.

[@StrengthAndConditioning61]

Saw a F4 come in once that was having trouble off the Ranger at Cubi PT Subic bay Philippines. Heard his engines and they sounded way off. Pilot tried to catch a wire on the runway (yeah they got wire on the runways too) and missed and hit hard and then slid off the runway into the grass smoking. Bravo Zulu to the Pilot and Rio for not ejecting and saving the plane. Walked back into the P3 line shack and said hey an F4 just crashed and no one believed me until they heard the sirens. I was young then

[@zonacrs]

Was at NAS Cubi Point from 81-82 for several months on beach detachment from West Pac with an A7-E squadron. Great memories.

[@billyruffian1426]

The Phantom is the only plane that would not look out of place in a Star Wars movie.

[@stonesie81]

I dunno, the Vulcan looks pretty alien and sounds like no other Jet, that howl it makes is spine tingling in person.

[@andersmoesby6470]

SR-71 just entered the chat...

[@VigilanteAgumon]

Jet aircraft are too aerodynamic to fit into Star Wars. Generation Tech just did a video today on why modern jets are actually faster in the atmosphere than Star Wars fighters.

[@44lucas]

Cough cough F-117 cough

[@superfisto]

Check out "Astartes"

[@larsvogeler3078]

I know the German F4 when I was a kid. Easy to recognize, because of their heavy black smoke tail!

[@IrishCarney]

Be interesting to have a video explaining why that happens and how it got cleaned up in more modern fighters

[@Paganmine-WT]

Right​@@IrishCarney

[@daszieher]

"Luftverteidigungsdiesel", seine Ehefrau, der Klappdrachen und die italienische Geliebte, die heiße Gina.

[@andersjjensen]

@@IrishCarney A short combustion chamber gives the engine better power to weigh ratio at the expense of billowing smoke when going full kahoot. Advances in material science allowed for higher compression ratios, and (hence) higher combustion temperatures made it possible to clean it up without sacrificing too much performance, so it was deemed that the smaller visual signature was worth more than a small performance boost.

[@spider_corsa]

same here in eastern Europe with the Mig-29s :)

[@janniksd5407]

Immediatly thought of the Tom Clancy book red storm rising. That video could have been right out of it. What a Massacre!

[@Transit21]

I appreciate when you cut the rearm/refuel from the video however I still do enjoy the final approach and touchdown sequences, both from pilot and external perspective. Maybe you could keep those in the video every now and then? :)

[@lawlmatty712]

7:13 "Not a fan of that" xD idky but that had me laughing hysterically

[@yucczucc1401]

My face went full 1000 yard stare when I realized that was a MiG 29 silhouette 💀

[@MichelVaillancourt]

Absolutely wild furball. The kind of stuff that was forecast, over Europe, but never seen.

[@lonniehartke8823]

I love the f4. Always reminds me of dad. He worked on one on the Kitty Hawk during Nam. Vmf114

[@genericusername5948]

Normally I'm like a day late to these videos because the KZbin lords don't recommend them to me when they release but here I am now, also I always love F-4 content but I've been enjoying the prop aircraft stuff a lot recently, keep it up!

[@atigerclaw]

All that on-the-deck triple-A... Those poor homes in the city.

[@chpet1655]

I never knew the Luftwaffe F-4s didn’t carry Sparrows…interesting indeed

[@PaddyPatrone]

Germany didn`t have the budget at the time so they bought the F4F, a stripped down E variant. These were later upgraded and carried a variety of weapons and even recieved the radar from the F18.

[@frenchroast1355]

The F4 has the most badass silhouette in the sky. Great vid.

[@N3wbConscript]

Ty for the content this year, GS! Love the Phantom stuff, and Happy Thanksgiving!

[@amphibol]

6:11 looks like the old Gepard got em!😍

[@gawddamnnotthisagain]

Man, the constant sonic booms of a high speed furball. Intense stuff!

[@FraustByte]

GS cashed in all his luck on a few of these run ins. Talk about skin of teeth.

[@kristianfischer9814]

The Phantom absorbing 3 (presumably) R-60s. Somebody on an assembly line somewhere didn't do quality control. :D

[@enochlearns6132]

"That flak was for me. I don't like that." That was funny. I love the f4. Dad was a crew chief working w/f4s, and I had a f4 edf (foam) rc jet. It flew like it was on rails. I always liked the airframe on an f4. That was a great battle. Keep it up. I enjoy the vids. My vote is f16 outnumbered by migs or something an f16 could handle more than one of. I like the hairball mayhem in this vid. How you're always having to remember to keep an eye out for other bandits besides the one in front of you.

[@LaLaObeRoT]

I do remember the sonic booms of Phantoms and Starfighters from my childhood, when super sonic flying was not yet restricted over Western Germany. Very common. Knocked out many a window.

[@cgilleybsw]

9:20 - engine fire, no no no. A very long time ago the original Aim9 was all about heat. or Thermal energy. It's a lot more sophisticated after 40 years. I have no idea what DCS models, but I do know that the modern aim9s are all aspect - they don't need engine heat - though that helps. If you look at the thermal radiation coming off an aircraft - and we have - it's all over the spectrum. The later models of the Aim9 can track the spectral refection of very specific signatures. Hell, the Side has been able to do head on shots for a long time now (hence stealth).

[@danmauane1289]

The way they hit you with THREE missiles, you'd swear it was personal..😅😅.

[@SuperDiablo101]

But the phantom stayed intact for the most part...they don't make them like they used too

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

@@SuperDiablo101 More just that the damage modelling in DCS is incredibly lacklustre.

[@Johnnyg67-]

The guy that was a little late saving you, splashed two off your 6. Another great video. Thanks GSW!

[@icaleinns6233]

Great job being a team player and taking those missiles from the MiG-21's so that your buddy could get a double kill.

[@rmp5s]

Love the F-4!! F-16 and A-10 vids are my favorite but F-4 vids are a VERY close second. Amazing plane!!

[@esr243]

Fabulous last century stuff - my favourite - reminder of 1980s FTX in Wes Germany with German F-4s buzzing above us …

[@johnbingham9241]

At least you gave it a chance. ❤ 💯

[@whiteheat64gaming]

I like these larger battle type videos.

[@Universal_exports87]

It's so difficult to dogfight in an F4E. Well done.

[@Ayeshteni]

I love the F-4 content.

[@Ghost_6012]

You should fly the tornado, its been a while and this luftwaffe scenario reminds me of it.

[@SEJay-gj2cv]

13:10 "There's always a bigger fish."

[@mcleanac3000]

Great illustration of the fog of war.

[@Kebria]

The end scene was absolute carnage.

[@jessediego4096]

I just watched the warthog and raptors in ww2 videos, here's an idea for the future, a squadron of f-15ex's defending a formation of b17's from me-262's.

[@vortecmacs]

Phantom is a tough bird. 3 missiles and she was mostly together.

[@seanegan3449]

can we talk about how that F-4 tanked those first 2 missiles? Side note: Kinda looks like they're flying over the Rhein-Ruhr area and i think it would look better after a supersonic air battle took place overhead

[@OrangePillow815]

Great video. Would love to see other aircraft in these types of scenarios!

[@spitefulwar]

Never underestimate the trusty ol' Luftwaffediesel!

[@SEJay-gj2cv]

Diesel-Jäger mit Bleinase

[@steveman1982]

Thought I smelled Luftwaffles.

[@vanishsauerwerd5905]

the phantom was called "nato diesel" in germany because of the black smoke coming out of the engines when flying without the afterburner :D

[@kuhljager2429]

This almost needs the soundtrack from "Comona" or "Showdown"

[@mothafraker]

This was cool. Would be cool if you and Longshot flew a pair of Phantoms over Vietnam.

[@mariusuhde1708]

Die Geparden erledigen ihren Job!

[@captchaosbluely1339]

He finally did it for an f4 video @11:10

[@redreality6777]

I just woke up and I get to watch GS what a dub

[@MaSterChOu1]

Splash 3 and the 2nd Mig 29 were visualy amazing, poetry in motion. Over which place did you play this mission ? Thank you for the amazing work @GrowlingSidewinder.

[@MirzaMobeen-cl4dz]

Gs , I've never seen a vid like this , plz make at least 5 more of these but with f-16 or raptor

[@hoilst265]

Das Fliegerziegel!

[@Danko05]

Great video GS... 👍🏻

[@WilsonRawlins]

Very crazy and intense dogfight.

[@jdewitt]

Great vid as always, that ending was ridiculous! Hey, your time-travel vids gave me an idea. How about an ME 262 vs modern jets in a bandit unknown scenario? I'd love to see how it would hold up against different opponents through the years. Mig-21, F4, F15, F16, F18, even F22. I imagine the F16 would eat its lunch, but could it out turn an F4? I'd watch that! 😁

[@RobbyQuarantined]

This one deserves an Emmy

[@Pablo668]

Great vid. Ace in a day, at least.

[@RED121572]

Good vid. Fun to watch.

[@firewolfy_6]

The German F4s never had sparrows......but they did have AMRAAMS, Heatblur wenn

[@Archer_mcmv]

DCS is so damn cinematic

[@JSDFEnthusiast]

`You gotta rock the F-4EJ skin for the JASDF and do some low level anti shipping lol. I think the detailing they do on all the doors and panel markings are what makes me love their schemes over any other.

[@derekaldrich330]

Smokey and Multiple Bandits.

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Cool vid l, what Sidewinders you are using tho? Germany never had smokeless aim9s for their Phantoms

[@Thursday_Gloaming]

Is this the new Kola map? That city was cinematic as hell

[@NotALot-xm6gz]

The folks on the ground can’t be enjoying all that AAA ordinance landing on them.

[@thelefttechcat]

I could tell by the roundals on the MiG 21 it belonged to the Luftstreitkräfte der Nationalen Volksarmee and the positioning of opposing AAA on both sides of the river you are creating the Battle of Berlin that never happened? I love DCS for these hypothetical what if battles.

[@brutusmuerto]

This Very Awesome.

[@alanluscombe8a553]

I am a private pilot. Never flown jets at all I have an old Pitts special biplane and am building a ww1 sopwith pup replica from the airdrome company. I just got a computer that can run dcs I am going to try it. Seems like a ton of fun but also seems like it can be very overwhelming

[@SuperDiablo101]

Those Pitts specials are some of my favorites

[@AdamosDad]

Ace in a day!

[@shivamgaur19]

Last moment was like hell yeah let's lose all

[@yoonseongdo3303]

This is awesome, very chaotic warzone

[@Kelvin_Foo]

All this because someone released 99 red balloons over the wall?

[@MichelVaillancourt]

.... in this dust that was a city ...

[@markruhland3035]

The best waffles are Luftwaffles

[@Burkutace27]

(Read in michael pritchard’s voice) Overwhelmed by the surge of Soviet fighters, the crews aboard NATO sentries orbiting high above and far away from the battle became little more than spectators, as the skies over Western Germany descended into chaos. With closing speeds measured in hundreds to thousands of kilometres, NATO and Warsaw pact pilots alike found themselves at close range, the realm of heat sealing missiles and cannons. Radios ablaze with dozens of overlapping calls and all but cut off from AWACS control, the NATO pilots fell back on the old ways, the original rules of air combat written in blood in skies not all that far from these. In pairs, American, German, British and French pilots took on the might of the Soviet air forces in desperate high speed dogfights. Though the Soviet pilots were not trained for this kind of fighting, it is by no means easy to kill a man who does not want to die. Smoke trails and cannon tracers criss-crossed the sky, some connecting with yellow orange fireballs that turned to comets. Greasy black smoke marked their final plunge to the earth. No one would ever know the true tally of either side. A hundreds of miles per hour impact with the ground following a missile impact left Eagles, Falcons, Mirages, Phantoms and Migs looking alike. Personal claims would be overstated; they always had been. Nor would the toll from friendly fire ever be known. It is not easy to distinguish one blurry metal shape from another while fighting for one's life scant hundreds of feet above the ground. There would be little celebration at NATO and Pact air bases that night. Survivors would land, stumble from their cockpits and mechanically see to their needs, before finding somewhere private to grieve in the few minutes they'd have before the next scramble.

[@aubreyburke6829]

awesome! well done. very entertaining.

[@sleepingninjaquiettime]

Was that 40mm flak? I'm guessing it was considering how low it was and the quantity of the flak. If it was, radar assisted flak is pretty nasty stuff.

[@soupenjoyer6173]

Most likely 57mm timed fuze he

[@holgerkraus6724]

Gepard? 2x 35mm for low altitudes, completed by Roland SAM. Otherwise, we had HAWK (low/medium altitudes) and NIKE (high altitudes), the latter replaced by PATRIOT by the beginning of the 90s.

[@abbaerfani9007]

Hello GS Gerat fight even after you got shot down. One thing on this video shows the F4 still kick ass 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gert5303]

Love the video! Quick question, did you change something the past two videos? Some of the visuals look more VR or something. I don't mind it, just want to check if i'm seeing things :) Thanks!!

[@Deki_Srpska]

Well as soon as I find interest in Germans phantoms here goes him posting a dcs video flying a German phantom😂

[@victorvanhouten]

I’ve read somewhere German F4s could carry amraams. I wonder how it would do in a modern environment.

[@wolfpreist]

You did the F22 vs WWII German Bomber Formation what about a flight of F15 EXs ?

[@DanielAtHome1]

eurofighter vs su57 over europe next!

[@Alefovysky]

Which missiles were the F4 shooting? AIM9 E?

[@Ayeshteni]

AIM9P

[@AnthonyAdrianAcker]

Man I need to get a new joystick and get back into DCS. It's been a few months, but I've also been so focused on school.

[@alanluscombe8a553]

I have never tried dcs. I am a private pilot I never flew jets or anything I have an old Pitts special biplane and am building a sopwith pup replica from the airdrome company. I just got a computer that can run dcs I really want to try it but it seems that learning it can be very overwhelming

[@ditzydoo4378]

Surprised as a German F4 you don't get the Python.

[@SacredCowStockyards]

More Phantom content plz

[@CrazyChemistPL]

10:07 Ace in a day