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Skip Bayless, Paul Pierce and Keyshawn Johnson discuss Boston Celtics legend Larry Bird and Dallas Mavericks star Luka Dončić. The Undisputed cast take a deep dive into the numbers to decide if Luka is a better player than Larry Legend.
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Luka Dončić vs. Larry Bird: Is Mavs star a better player than the Celtics legend? | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 24 күн бұрын
Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT
@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp
@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp 24 күн бұрын
Yall sleep paul pierce was that dude😳😳😳😳 He was really dope at kansas😳😳😳
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC
@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC 24 күн бұрын
@@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp dont say "Yall" lol dunk contest winner that age too...gen z is sleep tho..which is wild bc when we were young we checked out all the old heads and gave reverence. But theses jokers nowadays have WAY more access but they're the dont give a got damn generation lol..plus they simps for women now lol but 100
@charlesriggins2137
@charlesriggins2137 24 күн бұрын
💯 ​@@PRODIGY-AND-HAVOC
@jbrand-0095
@jbrand-0095 23 күн бұрын
stop comparing luka to bird when you knw jokic is the modern larry bird, lukas game is nothing like bird! and skip saying luka has "no rhythm" is probably one of the dumbest things said in the history of sports media
@user-cw7ir7rf9w
@user-cw7ir7rf9w 23 күн бұрын
LUKA WILL BECOME A LEGEND! AND LUKE IS SMARTER THAN EVERYBODY EXCEPT JOKIC!
@BigtunaG
@BigtunaG 24 күн бұрын
Luka is wayyy closer to Bird than Ant Edwards is to Jordan
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724 24 күн бұрын
Oh for sure. Right now, it's Jordan > Bird > Luka > Ant
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 24 күн бұрын
I hate to say it but Luka may even be better than Bird, not career wise but in talent, Bird couldn't do what Luka is doing
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724 24 күн бұрын
@@JohnnytNatural I think Bird is far more talented naturally. I don't know how old you are but I've been a basketball fan since the mid 70s. Watch some of Bird's passing highlights on KZbin. His basketball sense is uncanny. I don't know how many 3 point contests he won but I've heard witnesses says they've seen him hit 50 or 60 in a row in practice - in an era when 3 point shooting wasn't a thing yet.
@Damari90
@Damari90 24 күн бұрын
84-85 Jordan. Ahhhhhh 😩
@Damari90
@Damari90 24 күн бұрын
@@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724dang to watch basketball at its apex is 🔥.
@JoseSellsSoFlo
@JoseSellsSoFlo 24 күн бұрын
Paul bringing Undisputed back.
@herohines
@herohines 24 күн бұрын
Paul Pierce is a plus to this show ,he has grown so much .
@GTR24
@GTR24 24 күн бұрын
He was acting out a script on ESPN. They need clowns to make triggering statements for views
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, I wasn't a fan before, but he's growing on me.
@Rocco1123
@Rocco1123 24 күн бұрын
He is the only positive about this show now
@awesomecoolguy6515
@awesomecoolguy6515 24 күн бұрын
"PooGame" Pierce is out of his damn mind!
@willcool24
@willcool24 24 күн бұрын
Bigg facks. I watch when Paul is on here.. hilarious 😂 😃 team Paul..dude be having me rolling 🤣
@christopherschofield2785
@christopherschofield2785 24 күн бұрын
So Keyshawn keeps saying it is okay to compare Edwards to Jordan but not Luka to bird. This dude makes no sense
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 24 күн бұрын
Neither one should be compared to all time greats until they win something
@jeffreybradford9838
@jeffreybradford9838 24 күн бұрын
​@@spenser6353agreed... But seems that keyshawn hates that Luka is white. Does whatever he can to give him no credit.
@user-dn3fn3bg4l
@user-dn3fn3bg4l 24 күн бұрын
Why are you so quick to see race and ppl being racist? Its an insecurity you have that screams of projection of your own racist shadow. Keyshawn does not come across as a racist dude at all. Dude barley if ever even talks about politics. Cmon dude. Stop it. ​@@jeffreybradford9838
@joechucks1555
@joechucks1555 24 күн бұрын
@@jeffreybradford9838 that makes no sense bro u can see Ant is trying to be MJ but Bird and Luka are totally different players
@jeffreybradford9838
@jeffreybradford9838 24 күн бұрын
@@joechucks1555 not talking about only this discussion. Go look at Key's takes on any discussion about Luka.
@Snooozee_
@Snooozee_ 24 күн бұрын
Larry bird is a legend
@richardramos8218
@richardramos8218 24 күн бұрын
I wonder if race has anything to do with why they are being compared too tho 😅
@sixside7743
@sixside7743 24 күн бұрын
Facts ‼️ I saw bird playing the game. His father had him shooting shots over the barn ‼️💯💪🤷
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
@@sixside7743 i was relatively young when i saw Bird play as well... and it's not even close
@ThomS8
@ThomS8 24 күн бұрын
And Luka is as well
@gregorywilson2124
@gregorywilson2124 24 күн бұрын
Larry started out as a Legend. Him and Magic.
@stewiegriffin12341
@stewiegriffin12341 24 күн бұрын
We’re still doing the whole “Luka doesn’t play defense” thing huh Keyshawn.
@BladimirRivas-rh1ty
@BladimirRivas-rh1ty 24 күн бұрын
when he plays defense, It tends to break down because others have to dip in out of position to help.
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 24 күн бұрын
He’s still an overrated defender. He plays defense sometimes
@stewiegriffin12341
@stewiegriffin12341 24 күн бұрын
@@spenser6353 What?! He’s not overrated as a defender. He’s underrated. All anyone says about his defense is that he sucks, and that narrative sunk in so much that anytime he gets praise for playing genuinely good defense it seems over the top.
@ImMe20127
@ImMe20127 24 күн бұрын
@@spenser6353you can’t be overrated if people think you don’t play defense
@blaxicanman55
@blaxicanman55 24 күн бұрын
He literally finished this year over the 80th percentile of defense lol that’s not a shut down defender but pretty good
@REAlMIDOFFICIAL
@REAlMIDOFFICIAL 24 күн бұрын
I'm so sick and tired of these comparisons when it comes to sports. Anthony Edwards to Michael jordan, Luka to Larry bird. Just let these players be great and who they are on their own. Every great or good player for that matter, doesn't need to be compared to somebody else from the past. Most of the people that they be trying to compare aint even won a championship yet, let alone been to the NBA finals.
@MrDoctorDell
@MrDoctorDell 24 күн бұрын
Well said.
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724
@thanemlesstrue-arrow5724 24 күн бұрын
No. It's fun to make comparisons. Joe Louis vs Ali vs Tyson. Hogan vs Nicklaus vs Tiger. Ruth vs Aaron vs Ohtani. Wilt vs Jordan vs Lebron. These make for great barbershop discussions.
@KyDReign
@KyDReign 24 күн бұрын
They be so bored.
@Bornclutch62
@Bornclutch62 24 күн бұрын
They don’t know how to talk or make high level basketball content so they have no choice but to debate stupid topics
@noconsent
@noconsent 24 күн бұрын
@@Bornclutch62 Correct. They can't discuss play calling, game plans, defensive sets, or anything of the sort. So to fill the hour they have to bait us all to their content by making baseless comparisons.
@davem1212
@davem1212 24 күн бұрын
Let’s not forget that Bird won the MVP 3 straight years and finished in the top 2 of the MVP voting six straight years .. let that sink in .. plus Bird and Magic saved the NBA. straight facts
@Buratitit
@Buratitit 24 күн бұрын
😮😮😮
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
exactly --- Bird was either the best or 2nd best player during his time, versus now/Pooka's era where he's barely one of a good handful... it's a silly comparison
@Sebest-fs3xu
@Sebest-fs3xu 24 күн бұрын
⁠@@thebestever160everyone considers Luka top 3 at the worst, commonly top 2. Why use that argument of all arguments you could have possibly used.
@MrTveit14
@MrTveit14 24 күн бұрын
Bird got 67% of all 1st place MVP votes during the 80s
@MavDon-qc9tc
@MavDon-qc9tc 24 күн бұрын
Luka literally got robbed of mvp THIS YEAR 😂😂
@En4cer2K9
@En4cer2K9 24 күн бұрын
He's not lying. Paul Pierce did win the 2010 three point contest
@antiguabossy
@antiguabossy 24 күн бұрын
Damn I just looked it up. I don't remember him winning it
@Amick44
@Amick44 24 күн бұрын
@@antiguabossy I remember it. Sometimes guys who aren't the favorites to win a contest, tend to be forgotten about. I wonder how many fans remember Desmond Mason winning the slam dunk contest? He is basically an NBA nobody, but he won it one year. Honestly though, I would have to look up when. I don't remember. I know it's been at least 15 years.
@antiguabossy
@antiguabossy 24 күн бұрын
@@Amick44 Desmond Mason played for the Bucks when he won the Dunk Contest, right?
@Amick44
@Amick44 24 күн бұрын
@@antiguabossy I thought it was the sonics but I'm not 100% positive.
@antiguabossy
@antiguabossy 24 күн бұрын
@@Amick44 yep you're right
@flexalexander4873
@flexalexander4873 24 күн бұрын
That's one of the most accurate things Pierce ever said. Luka and Pierce had that weird pace of play.
@NickGalaxy2
@NickGalaxy2 23 күн бұрын
So true
@Amick44
@Amick44 23 күн бұрын
Gervin did, too. He didn't outrun anyone very often. He shuffled here and there and usually got off a good shot.
@Udon_Noodle
@Udon_Noodle 23 күн бұрын
I don’t know why people don’t give Paul his props. Luka’s game looks like a mix of Lebron and PP.
@Amick44
@Amick44 23 күн бұрын
@@Udon_Noodle largely cause Boston was mediocre (or worse) for years til Ray and KG arrived.
@Udon_Noodle
@Udon_Noodle 23 күн бұрын
@@Amick44 has literally nothing to do with the way his game looks
@coltranecobain9883
@coltranecobain9883 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn Johnson is king of “I think what I’m saying is important” but he ain’t saying a got damn thing.
@mr.solomon1170
@mr.solomon1170 24 күн бұрын
EXACTLY 😂
@tk2fly3d
@tk2fly3d 24 күн бұрын
He is da WORST!!
@shahenalexanian6303
@shahenalexanian6303 24 күн бұрын
He had a great zinger at the very end, though!😂
@shonda79able
@shonda79able 24 күн бұрын
Isn't what they all do? Now you're hating
@coltranecobain9883
@coltranecobain9883 24 күн бұрын
@@shonda79able I don’t care about the hate, every analyst hates. It’s about being paid to say something and then when you do, it carries less weight than pocket change. It teaches the rest of us to run off at the head with reckless abandon. And then shortly after the fall of western society 😁
@duskry6426
@duskry6426 24 күн бұрын
Key is so biased against Luka "Look how long is taking him (to win championships, MVPs)", while Jordan won his first MVP at 24 and his first championship at 27 (same as Lebron). Are Jordan or Lebron worse than Bird because they took more time to win 3 MVPs and 3 championships?
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 24 күн бұрын
Nah lebron won his first championship at age 28
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 24 күн бұрын
Jordan and Bird played under the same rules. LeBron played with the defensive 3 second violation, defensive hand checking foul, the flagrant etc... How do you compare an apple to an orange besides the fact that they are both sweet?
@duskry6426
@duskry6426 24 күн бұрын
The point is not how they won or if they did at all, is the fact that Key never used how much time they took to do it as a factor to diminish their successes, the way he does with Luka
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 24 күн бұрын
@@duskry6426 Agreed 💯. Keyshawn always seems to be in lala land anyway next to Paul anyway.
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
he doesn't have to be biased at all --- Pooka first 6 years isn't even close to Bird's
@waltereaton4420
@waltereaton4420 24 күн бұрын
The Celtics won 29 games prior to Bird's rookie season. Larry joins the Celts, they win 61 games. Unprecedented. Larry elevated his teammates to levels Luca can only dream of.
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 24 күн бұрын
🎯💯
@RogerCh888
@RogerCh888 23 күн бұрын
casuals are going to casual
@91ericman
@91ericman 23 күн бұрын
If you think Luka doesn't elevate and make the Mavs better you don't watch the Mavericks play when Luka came into the league his rookie year that's all everyone talked about was Luka and everyone was in awe of him at only 19 years old if the Mavericks don't break that team up for Porzingis they easily make the playoffs and possibly get to the finals then the next 3 years they make the playoffs if Porzingis isn't injured all the time and on his lil tantrum they beat the Clippers both times and who knows not to mention the WCF the 3rd time then they get Kyrie if Luka and Kyrie would of gelled together quicker that's another playoff run but that team was goin downhill fast that's why they tanked so 4 out of 6 years in the playoffs ain't bad when it could of easily been 6 out of 6 Luka can't do it all himself and now he finally has help like bird and all the other greats did so to say he doesn't elevate other players yes he does the difference is they're not great players most of them aren't even good players but now he has that good and great players around him that's why I can't wait for Luka to win it all this year so he can get the respect he deserves this man is a generational player there will never be another player like him he is a game changer and if you don't think Luka is the best player in the league right now that's just what I mean disrespectful not Ant not Shai ain't none of them touchin Luka Doncic when it comes to playing Basketball that boy cold
@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
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@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
They thru away the 79 season on purpose so they could get Bird. Bird did not make them a 60 win team. They also added Parish and McHale. The fact is the only reason they had a bad record was because they wanted to be in the top three for draft choice Not because Bird made them so much better. Unfortunately this lie continues to surface.
@Erawk
@Erawk 24 күн бұрын
One of the most respectful discussions on one of these subjects I've ever seen and it's refreshing. I'm sure if JJ Reddick was on there he would have pointed to some obscure analytic that shows Luka is better due to the spacing and pace of modern day NBA. Also, I know this isn't a Celtics show, but I would love a segment with Paul ranking the top 5 or 10 Celtics, and where he would slot himself in. He's a prideful guy (remember the Dwayne Wade comparison) but you can see he gets modest when he considers himself among the Celtics greats.
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 24 күн бұрын
Are they really trying to bring back Jordan vs Bird? Are we bringing back the Sega Genesis as well?
@hernandezmarkie7382
@hernandezmarkie7382 24 күн бұрын
Im the biggest luka and mavs fan but dont compare luka to bird until he wins a title
@Joeshiesty286
@Joeshiesty286 23 күн бұрын
There’s literally videos showing how eerily similar they are. He’s Larry 2.0.
@Rich-km7pr
@Rich-km7pr 23 күн бұрын
Facts 💯
@fkillah
@fkillah 22 күн бұрын
@@Joeshiesty286then the results should be similar especially in a weaker generation where offense is favored. Until he wins some chips and mvps, you can’t talk
@GTR24
@GTR24 24 күн бұрын
All these iconic players have similarities. Luka has some Paul Pierce flashes in his game like the step back J and the dribble out the clock iso. I also see the Carmelo post game at times. Luka even adopted the Dirk 1 legged fadeaway. But I really don't see the Bird in Doncic. I wasn't old enough to watch Larry Legend but the highlights look like a completely different style of play
@renewd
@renewd 24 күн бұрын
Bird wasn't fast, but he was quick. He had one of the quickest first steps in the game.
@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
lol you are Delusional. Bird quick first step 😅😅😅😅😅
@renewd
@renewd 23 күн бұрын
@@robertfarrar9564 watch some highlight packages.
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 24 күн бұрын
Bird played with many other Hall of Famers. That's why his scoring numbers suffered. He could have easily been a 30ppg scorer himself.
@Saviiq
@Saviiq 21 күн бұрын
Yeah and Kobe coulda averaged 50
@fithealth247
@fithealth247 24 күн бұрын
Bird made defensive teams..Luka hasn't. Bird was a better shooter in all facets of scoring..midrange, post, 3 point in an era where the three pointer was hardly taken, free throw. And bird averaged 10 boards while playing with two other hall of fame big men in Parish and McHale. And Bird was the first 50/40/90 guy and he wasn't even thinking of focused on doing that.
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
Bird's defense is one thing that doesn't get brought up when he's talked about, but you spoke facts!
@saiwaqa2573
@saiwaqa2573 24 күн бұрын
at luka's age, bird was a sophomore in the NBA
@gregorywilson2124
@gregorywilson2124 24 күн бұрын
Bird was a way better Athlete than Luka. He was also more. Athletic than the Truth. People say Bird was slow but you have to be an athlete to be on an all defensive team.
@GuyoftheStars
@GuyoftheStars 24 күн бұрын
​@@saiwaqa2573and won a Championship
@saiwaqa2573
@saiwaqa2573 24 күн бұрын
@@GuyoftheStars on a stacked team
@OfPrometheus
@OfPrometheus 24 күн бұрын
Luka was compared to these greats soon as he came into the league, Luka’s been great for so long now barely at age 25 people under appreciate his greatness
@Ljay968
@Ljay968 24 күн бұрын
What greatness??? What does Luka do that’s blows the fans away???
@andrewfung9340
@andrewfung9340 24 күн бұрын
@@Ljay968first team all nba every year of his career to start
@saiwaqa2573
@saiwaqa2573 24 күн бұрын
Bro they act like he is 32. And then when corrected on his age they say "well he has played professional since he was 16"... I mean wtf are we doing here the kid is barely 25!
@OfPrometheus
@OfPrometheus 24 күн бұрын
@@Ljay968 damn near average a triple double?? So many nobodies have career years with Luka?? Breaking all time records left and right??
@mmobilegaming9256
@mmobilegaming9256 24 күн бұрын
Greatness is associated with champions. Stop the glazing, it's beneath you.
@aioncrypto974
@aioncrypto974 24 күн бұрын
He’s honestly more comparable to Magic than Bird if you are comparing games & not complexions
@Ljay968
@Ljay968 24 күн бұрын
lol… Magic lol…
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
Not even close 😂
@makhabzaranamane6869
@makhabzaranamane6869 24 күн бұрын
Harden
@ethan-db9wc
@ethan-db9wc 24 күн бұрын
​@makhabzaranamane6869 the only right answer Luka is literally a harden who is a little more clutch and more passing oriented compared to harden who was more scoring oriented
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 24 күн бұрын
Magic wasn’t looking to score as much
@greatnessmuzic7955
@greatnessmuzic7955 24 күн бұрын
I swear PP gotta bite his earge to shut Keyshawn up on his bad takes on basketball. You can see it on his face. 🤣🤣🤣
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 24 күн бұрын
The closest modern day comp to Bird is Jokic, _not_ Luka!
@cliff13333
@cliff13333 24 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!
@jbrand-0095
@jbrand-0095 23 күн бұрын
these clowns knw it too but they want to make people think luka is unathletic
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Hahaha or they are individuals and none of them play alike.
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
They literally play nothing alike
@johnnybtheshooter1457
@johnnybtheshooter1457 24 күн бұрын
Can Undisputed upload a version withOUT Keyshawn? That would be much appreciated. It would keep up from having to fast forward thru the BS
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
You guys hate on Keyshawn even when he’s right. Luka should not be compared to bird. Don’t watch the show it’s that simple
@andresdelportillo9917
@andresdelportillo9917 24 күн бұрын
Larry from 79-84 was athletic and lean.
@kristopherobafial9623
@kristopherobafial9623 24 күн бұрын
Pierce aint lieing he rly won the 3 point contest
@Only1Mal
@Only1Mal 24 күн бұрын
I thought he was bullshitting 😂😂
@shonda79able
@shonda79able 24 күн бұрын
Lying
@SuspectJet
@SuspectJet 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn really cold for not believing The Truth when he said he won the 2010 3 point contest in Dallas
@oskarlonnqvist7074
@oskarlonnqvist7074 12 күн бұрын
Yeah.. like super disrespectful! 😮
@NukeMedia
@NukeMedia 24 күн бұрын
3 championships to a player that hasnt gotten one😂
@ymnfamily713
@ymnfamily713 23 күн бұрын
When luka gets 3 mvps and 3 championship then holla at me on this debate...
@1804crypto
@1804crypto 24 күн бұрын
Two different errors, two different levels of physicality. Larry played for blood
@saiwaqa2573
@saiwaqa2573 24 күн бұрын
Luka is 25 ffs. Bird came into the league at 23. Why tf are you comparing a 25 yr old to a retired bird?
@sa1sa624
@sa1sa624 24 күн бұрын
Keshawn always side ways hating. "He good but did he do this"...
@RogerCh888
@RogerCh888 23 күн бұрын
I have never listened to any of his takes and thought he was making a good point. He sounds like a whiny guy with horrible points
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
It’s a debate show. Y’all stay hating on Keyshawn. He’s giving his opinion and based on that logic I can show you where Paul and skip do the same thing to other players. The show isn’t for you if his opinion always ends up personal
@EndoftheTownProductions
@EndoftheTownProductions 21 күн бұрын
Bird and Jordan are on a totally different level than any elite player in the NBA today.
@wannabegolfin24-72
@wannabegolfin24-72 21 күн бұрын
Man, Larry Bird was so good it's hard to express it in words.
@leebrandt8597
@leebrandt8597 24 күн бұрын
Robert parish had never made an All Star game in his life and was averaging 13pts a game, until he played with Larry Bird. As soon as he stepped on the court with Larry, Parish becomes an All Star, averages 19pts a game, and wins a championship. That's what Larry Bird could do.
@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
The Celtics don’t win any championship without Parish. Birds first championship was because of MVP Cedric Maxwell in the Finals not Bird who choked in that series. The Celtics only won 30 games before Bird, Mchale and Parish got their was because Auerbach purposely threw away the season so he could get Bird at the 6th draft choice. To sum it up Bird did not miraculously turn the Celtics around they were not a 30 win team to begin and would not have won 60 without the other allstars including Nate Archibald.
@leebrandt8597
@leebrandt8597 23 күн бұрын
@@robertfarrar9564 The level of ignorance on your part is supreme, and your facts are false. Did you do it on purpose? The Celtics won 29 games the year before Bird was introduced, second worst in the league. Then in 79-80 Bird joins the team without Parish, McHale, Dennis Johnson, Ainge or anyone else you want to think of, just him. And what happens? They win a league best 61 games. As for the first chip, Bird didn't choke. Yeah he was gassed in his scoring because of the unbelievable job he did on beating the 76ers down from 3-1. But he still averaged more assists and rebounds than anyone in the series, and wasn't stat hunting. In the game where he made only 8 points, he had 13 rebounds and 10 assists. He only took 11 shots. If he was stat hunting, he would've made at least one more basket and gets a triple-double, and that alone would've gotten him the mvp. In the other game where he scored low, he had 12 rebounds and 7 assists. He was making plays for everyone and playing defense without inflating his scoring numbers. If he wanted to do that, he would've done it. Bird wanted to win, he wasn't interested in looking good. His assists and rebounds were influential, not a choke job. Parish didn't average as many points as Bird. McHale only averaged 4.7 points, so he wasn't much help. Without Parish do they win? No. Without Bird, Parish never becomes a hall of famer, and they don't win any chips. Saying Archibald threw away the season is asinine (look up the definition of asinine). One player can throw away the season for the team? What about the other players? The coach doesn't care? Just one player makes the decision. What about the season before that, where they only won 32 games? Did Archibald throw away two seasons in a row? Bird was drafted in 78, a whole full year before he left college. So why why Archibald throw away a year away for the whole team when they already drafted Bird? Whoever you are, your opinions are equal to lies, and nobody here on this comments section will share your takes, which means, your takes are unpopular because they are wrong
@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
@@leebrandt8597 you Idiot they got rid of 12 players and added 12 new players. They purposely tanked it so they could move up in the draft. Are you really that dumb to believe 1 player did all that when they added 10 new players? Bird was not even MVP in finals his 2nd year? You been fed a fantasy fan boy. I am not saying Bird was not the best player on his team but they added 10 or more players from that 30 win team. How can you turn a 30 win team around if that 30 win team is no longer in existence???? Are you that slow and delusional???
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
It’s a give and a take man
@JusttStruttVisuals
@JusttStruttVisuals 24 күн бұрын
The fact that people are more comfortable calling ant Jordan than Luka bird is INSANE! 😂
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
@@OAT86no dirk is dirk and bird is bird. Y’all just love the skin comparing
@jamooree
@jamooree 24 күн бұрын
Paul was spot on with his Luka comparison to James Harden. Outside of skin color, I seriously don't get the Bird comparisons. Stylisitcally Luka is nothing like Bird.
@ericksolis7820
@ericksolis7820 24 күн бұрын
Better comparison is Nowitzky.
@EdwinHargraves
@EdwinHargraves 24 күн бұрын
lol no
@bo0gi3
@bo0gi3 24 күн бұрын
stop
@HALLELUKA1
@HALLELUKA1 24 күн бұрын
, Dirk Nowitzki*
@RogerCh888
@RogerCh888 23 күн бұрын
Telling us you don't watch ball without telling us you don't watch ball
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Y’all love skin comparing
@jasonavery
@jasonavery 24 күн бұрын
Go watch the Larry Bird Mix Tape by the NBA, Luka isn’t Bird. 🤣 not even close.
@fatinthehat2024
@fatinthehat2024 9 күн бұрын
You’re right he’s about twice as good
@jasonavery
@jasonavery 9 күн бұрын
@@fatinthehat2024 Luka could never pass or play defense like Bird. You clearly don’t understand basketball.
@fatinthehat2024
@fatinthehat2024 9 күн бұрын
@@jasonavery Luka literally is a far better passer than Byrd😂 thank you for showing you have no clue about this subject
@fatinthehat2024
@fatinthehat2024 9 күн бұрын
@@jasonavery 4.5 career assists vs 8.3😂😂😂
@samuelmorse784
@samuelmorse784 24 күн бұрын
Bird played with multiple hall of famers Kevin Mchale, Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson, and Bill Walton. Look it up. Luka has played with....Kyrie Irving in his 2nd year together.
@robertfarrar9564
@robertfarrar9564 23 күн бұрын
That’s a fact. What nobody mentions is the Celtics were not a 30 win team before Bird got there. They purposely threw away the season to get Bird in draft, that was the genius of Auerbach. They became a 60 win team because they now had Bird, McHale and Parish. But the media continues with the lie that Bird was so great he made them a 60 win team but the facts are they were not that bad previously.
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Bro Luka has played with more all stars than that
@samuelmorse784
@samuelmorse784 23 күн бұрын
@spiritualatom2535 Bird joined a fully fledged legitimate team that had multiple Hall of Famers, good mix of offensive and defensive players. Lukas teams are absolute trash without him and it shows every time he gets injured. There is zero comparison to the Celtics who were absolutely stacked just like the 80s Lakers.
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
@@samuelmorse784 no offense but you should research all the players Luka has played with. A lot more all stars and hall of famers than you would think
@samuelmorse784
@samuelmorse784 23 күн бұрын
@@spiritualatom2535 Porzingis clashed with Luka and Brunson was half as good as he is now. Luka's teams are dismal without him this is an incontrovertible fact. They drop off a Cliff when Luka does not play. You're not only denying present reality but the greatness of Bird's teammates.
@kang7664
@kang7664 6 күн бұрын
I love Pierce’s subtle racism towards caucasians….. *sarcasm*
@45ginola
@45ginola 24 күн бұрын
Too soon for this topic
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
Luka is better at dribbling, volume scoring... larry bird clears on defense, passing, shooting, rebounds, leadership, portability...
@littlecarminelupertazzi1357
@littlecarminelupertazzi1357 24 күн бұрын
What's portability?
@bread_n_butter8614
@bread_n_butter8614 23 күн бұрын
his portability was elite indeed
@signaturesneakers267
@signaturesneakers267 24 күн бұрын
Love you guys ❤
@joshuaharmening7750
@joshuaharmening7750 24 күн бұрын
If Luka had been drafted by the Celtics, he'd have 3 chips and 3 MVPs. Major market. Successful organization. He'd have the media on his jock.
@ymnfamily713
@ymnfamily713 24 күн бұрын
Man Larry Bird can make shots blindfolded n pass to like don't disrespect the bird legend...ask Kareem about bird ask MJ about bird
@marckusduverger9776
@marckusduverger9776 24 күн бұрын
Luka’s a great passer
@ymnfamily713
@ymnfamily713 24 күн бұрын
@@marckusduverger9776 sure is but Larry is different his passing on another level
@holycow7195
@holycow7195 23 күн бұрын
Luka is better scorer.
@ymnfamily713
@ymnfamily713 23 күн бұрын
@@holycow7195 uh no he's not
@ymnfamily713
@ymnfamily713 23 күн бұрын
@@holycow7195 when luka has 3mvps and 2 final mvps holla at me till then Bird is Bird and Luka is Luka...Let the real legend live
@DanteDC-ui8iu
@DanteDC-ui8iu 23 күн бұрын
I love it when Paul Pierce is there to talk about basketball! Let's make this man permanent! Great to listen to a hall of famer NBA champion/great player commenting! What Paul Pierce says counts a lot more than a pretentious bench player JJ Redick trying to be the smartest guy in the room!
@duannehaughton4893
@duannehaughton4893 10 күн бұрын
Paul Pierce was right. He won the 3-point contest in 2010.
@lloydbonafide3398
@lloydbonafide3398 24 күн бұрын
Respect to key for sticking up for bird as a lakers fan.
@joshuaharmening7750
@joshuaharmening7750 24 күн бұрын
Passing to Bird? Naw dawg. And I LOVE Bird.
@duskry6426
@duskry6426 24 күн бұрын
Pierce's logic is so flawed, I can do it too: prime Simmons vs Curry: Size: Simmons Playmaking: Simmons Defense: Simmons Rebounding: Simmons Passing: Simmons Athletism: Simmons Triples: Curry Simmons must be better, right???
@Ljay968
@Ljay968 24 күн бұрын
Your argument is flawed.. By having Curry and Simmons in the same category.. Gen Z
@adittya9002
@adittya9002 24 күн бұрын
Nice rubbish analogy lmao Simmons is a complete non factor on the most important facet of the game aka SCORING/OFFENSE. Larry was always a major threat offensive threat and was one of the best shooters of all time, but nice try.
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
Playmaking includes scoring... where tf is simmons scoring
@duskry6426
@duskry6426 24 күн бұрын
@@Ljay968 I genuinely don't know how can you get the point and miss it at the same time. YES, it's a flawed argument, idiot, same as Pierce's.
@duskry6426
@duskry6426 24 күн бұрын
@@Ljay968 ...yes. That's the point. That it's flawed. I genuinely don't understand how can you get it and miss it at the same time.
@littlecarminelupertazzi1357
@littlecarminelupertazzi1357 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn got me with the "were the rules different"? 🤣🤣💀
@juanio7036
@juanio7036 16 күн бұрын
Larry bird won 3 mvps in a row and has 3 rings in a 11 year career. If he didn’t hurt his back he would have gotten maybe 1 more ring
@bobbycone2
@bobbycone2 24 күн бұрын
Skips take on Luka is absolutely wrong! Luka makes everyone on his team better by far!
@yungpush8661
@yungpush8661 24 күн бұрын
Larry Bird made others get All stars n 6th mans (cause of the attention he get) Luka has produced nothing but empty stats (who gets better playing w/Luka?? )🎯
@roskibobby11
@roskibobby11 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn you don’t like Luka it’s obvious so saying we like Luka is nasty work
@weiss9263
@weiss9263 24 күн бұрын
keyshawn just racist. He dont like luka. He doesn't even like steph curry because he a light skin
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Just say you disagree with him instead of always assuming how he feels
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 24 күн бұрын
I would love it if they stopped comparing these players and just let the current players blaze their own path.
@Ali-fo4uv
@Ali-fo4uv 23 күн бұрын
This shows actually great I love Paul pierces addition
@BlixkedTwice
@BlixkedTwice 24 күн бұрын
So bird is better bc he played first Paul? Lol
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
Averaging a triple double isnt impressive as it was in 2017
@metalmouthrecords7665
@metalmouthrecords7665 24 күн бұрын
Yeah the resume way better it’s not even close
@jasonavery
@jasonavery 24 күн бұрын
Bird is just better. MJ was 0-6 against Bird in the playoffs.
@richardoconnell3214
@richardoconnell3214 24 күн бұрын
Bird would get into Luka's emotional head. I would take Bird over Luka.
@hallerrr
@hallerrr 24 күн бұрын
Please get Keyshawn off this show. MY GOD.
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 24 күн бұрын
It's still technically "basketball", but this aint even close to the same game. Between the 3 second violation, hand check fouls, and the "flagrant"... This doesn't even resemble the same game. So stop comparing apples to oranges. It's sad.
@alfieb6711
@alfieb6711 24 күн бұрын
Luka has overtaken LaMelo as my 2nd fave player in the league behind KD
@edstarlocc
@edstarlocc 24 күн бұрын
Same but melo was my number 1 and luka 2
@alfieb6711
@alfieb6711 24 күн бұрын
@@edstarlocc I’m from UK just love Melo cuz of all them series wid him and his family over the years growing up seeing him develop
@spenser6353
@spenser6353 24 күн бұрын
@@alfieb6711so you like him for his acting 😂
@alfieb6711
@alfieb6711 24 күн бұрын
@@spenser6353 i like ur mum for acting as well, although some of her movies aren’t exactly PG rated😉
@edstarlocc
@edstarlocc 23 күн бұрын
@@alfieb6711 yeah oprahside got me watching lamelo ball and the family from early, its just like how Catlin clark got me and the whole world watching wnba
@powerman2610
@powerman2610 24 күн бұрын
Luka is Magic and Bird mixed together.
@JohnWick6Dee6
@JohnWick6Dee6 24 күн бұрын
I can see that
@chaosbalanced
@chaosbalanced 24 күн бұрын
🎵🎤🎼👀👀👀why you always lying 🎤🎵🎼🎵🎤
@awesomecoolguy6515
@awesomecoolguy6515 24 күн бұрын
AntMan is about to show Bricka who the face of the NBA is
@powerman2610
@powerman2610 24 күн бұрын
@@awesomecoolguy6515 6/24 Game 7 then brags about it
@1ZosoLZ
@1ZosoLZ 24 күн бұрын
That’s jokic. Stop being a casual.
@robertholmes12
@robertholmes12 24 күн бұрын
Can you increase the volume on the video? I can barely hear anything!
@talesfromthetrenches9382
@talesfromthetrenches9382 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn funny when he tones it down 😂😂😂
@ryandieter
@ryandieter 24 күн бұрын
Luka actually plays more like Paul pierce than bird
@halamadrid6733
@halamadrid6733 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn just a luka hater
@Nobody-pg3qq
@Nobody-pg3qq 24 күн бұрын
Nah the world give credit for avg to them people…
@Rocco1123
@Rocco1123 24 күн бұрын
​@@Nobody-pg3qq "them people"?
@adu11
@adu11 24 күн бұрын
​@@Rocco1123 he's being racist and like a true racist he's a coward
@adu11
@adu11 24 күн бұрын
​@@Rocco1123 he's being r@c!$t and like a true r@c!$t he's a coward
@marckusduverger9776
@marckusduverger9776 24 күн бұрын
Big time Luka hater, it’s crazy
@jrod132
@jrod132 23 күн бұрын
They need to stop with these comparisons. Let Luka be himself and Bird was Bird
@JohnBogoioff
@JohnBogoioff 21 күн бұрын
It isn't so much as they are the same it's style of play or patterns like Caitlin Clark style is similar to Birds/Like Kobe Bryants patterned his game to be like Mr. Air Jordans
@h.j.victory6103
@h.j.victory6103 19 күн бұрын
Paul Pierce speaks the truth 🙌 👏 💯
@ijayrizzy3116
@ijayrizzy3116 24 күн бұрын
Luka isn't better than Larry Bird. This is ridiculous.
@josegarcia9650
@josegarcia9650 24 күн бұрын
Luka vs Ant= Bird vs Jordan 🔥 🐐🐐🐐
@Ljay968
@Ljay968 24 күн бұрын
What??? Stick to baseball
@slint1111
@slint1111 24 күн бұрын
Obvious attempt by some exec somewhere to generate simpleton narratives, when the real narrative (future of the league) is way more interesting.
@brandonpenn9887
@brandonpenn9887 24 күн бұрын
🧢
@lamart3857
@lamart3857 24 күн бұрын
The best comparison to luka is prime james harden height,build,scoring ability,stat stuffer,step back 3,liability defensively,dribble dribble dribble etc
@kingunda5013
@kingunda5013 22 күн бұрын
Keyshawn was 100% on-point.
@jesusm2159
@jesusm2159 24 күн бұрын
Larry bird light yrs ahead
@chrisfedder3680
@chrisfedder3680 24 күн бұрын
No..
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
exactly --- and it's not even close
@jesusm2159
@jesusm2159 24 күн бұрын
@@thebestever160 what are people even comparing him for, luka overrated
@Fitkid7672
@Fitkid7672 24 күн бұрын
@@jesusm2159no Luka is good, he just needs the hardware now.
@jesusm2159
@jesusm2159 24 күн бұрын
@Fitkid7672 nope even with rings he is being way overhyped
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 24 күн бұрын
Bird alone, his first year in the NBA, took a next to last place team with only 29 wins, to 61 wins, the greatest turnaround EVER in the NBA. No other roster changes.
@jeremy95ize
@jeremy95ize 23 күн бұрын
No roster changes? Let’s not lie now
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 23 күн бұрын
NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 23 күн бұрын
NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 23 күн бұрын
NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
@ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot 23 күн бұрын
NO OTHER ROSTER CHANGES. McHale and Parish were added the next year, then DJ and Ainge. McHale was 6th Man of the Year his first two years before becoming a starter. Check your facts: you’re dead wrong. Apology accepted.
@denday4511
@denday4511 23 күн бұрын
Fan of both but Larry was a killer. He always made right play when needed. Never missed clutch free throws. Hit demoralizing threes to put teams away. MVP 3 straight years and runner up other years.
@martinjohn9904
@martinjohn9904 23 күн бұрын
Bird drove that car from the minute he got there. He was fantastic and he was a winner.
@kingswish2363
@kingswish2363 24 күн бұрын
Luka is waaay better than Paul Pierce. He would try to compare Luka to himself.
@alecbigler3987
@alecbigler3987 24 күн бұрын
I think he was talking more about style rather than level of play
@kingswish2363
@kingswish2363 24 күн бұрын
@@alecbigler3987 I get that but Luka is more important to his team than Paul pierce ever was. Pierce is definitely a hall of fame talent but he had Kg,Ray Allen, and Rondo you can even throw in Avery Bradley at the time. Luka has to Score,Play-make,Rebound, and play smart defense at a high level to win. Pierce only had to score that’s all I’m saying.
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Bro y’all need to stop. Luka is not better than Paul . I’ve seen both of them play in person
@spiritualatom2535
@spiritualatom2535 23 күн бұрын
Bro y’all need to stop. Luka is not better than Paul . I’ve seen both of them play in person
@kingswish2363
@kingswish2363 21 күн бұрын
@@spiritualatom2535 You’re telling me Luka doesn’t have a huge impact on his team winning games? Luka casually drops 30 point triple doubles and you still think Pierce is better?
@ZTK05
@ZTK05 24 күн бұрын
We need to stop comparing Luka to the top 10 legends of the game. We should compare Luka to Dirk Nowitzki. Let's start with who's the better Mav then go to who's the better overall player. Luka has a lot left to accomplish to reach that Bird status.
@tonycordova1682
@tonycordova1682 24 күн бұрын
paul and skip a decent lil duo when it comes to basketball talk
@flowgotv4790
@flowgotv4790 20 күн бұрын
Paul makes this show makes sense now after shannon left
@Vezuls
@Vezuls 24 күн бұрын
PASSING BIRD? LMAO
@Hutsonthebeast
@Hutsonthebeast 24 күн бұрын
What’s funny
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
Jokic is a better passer than Luka and Bird is better than Jokic. .
@jecotto03
@jecotto03 24 күн бұрын
@@bboywolfbird a better passer than jokic?!?!!!!
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 24 күн бұрын
@@jecotto03 yes, he's a better outlet passer, better off ball passer, better passer out the post, better passer off a shot fake, better in transition... stop it
@thebestever160
@thebestever160 24 күн бұрын
@@jecotto03 yes --- and Bird played in an era where more defense was allowed & the physicality of the game was at least 2-3 levels higher --- and that's just one aspect of the game (out of many) that Bird was better than both Pooka & Bad Breath Joke
@salsatr33tv20
@salsatr33tv20 24 күн бұрын
Keyshawn real niccaaa 😂😂😂
@KewPie-ym2vu
@KewPie-ym2vu 5 күн бұрын
Paul Pierce looking like Arsenio Hall
@deondurden9473
@deondurden9473 24 күн бұрын
You can definitely compare the two but you also have to compare eras
@tylersouthcott3359
@tylersouthcott3359 24 күн бұрын
Bird is bigger and quicker, better shooter in every aspect, more efficient, better rebounder, better in post, better off the ball, superior defender. Luka is crazy but this is outrageous
@Joeshiesty286
@Joeshiesty286 23 күн бұрын
Luka is a combination of Larry Bird and Magic. Just do a lil research and you’ll know yourself too.
@tylersouthcott3359
@tylersouthcott3359 23 күн бұрын
@@Joeshiesty286 Bird is a combination of Luka and Jokic but superior defender to either and shoots like KD
@jeremy95ize
@jeremy95ize 23 күн бұрын
Luka will give bird 30
@tylersouthcott3359
@tylersouthcott3359 23 күн бұрын
@@jeremy95izeSure, on 40% with 6 turnovers and a L
@jeremy95ize
@jeremy95ize 23 күн бұрын
@@tylersouthcott3359 cap, they both shoot 50% for their careers. Luka is the primary ball handler and bird played mostly with his back to the basket. Luka would cook bird but he’s definitely giving up 25 points to bird.
@CiCLoDoL
@CiCLoDoL 24 күн бұрын
How can you even compare? Two different eras like holy. Luka knows how to operate dozens of P&R, has lethal techniques. Bird played against plumbers literally, even though he is still a legend.
@BMEgaming
@BMEgaming 24 күн бұрын
Passing is close but I don’t think it is bird
@gusholevas1406
@gusholevas1406 24 күн бұрын
Context matters. Bird won his first title at 24 years old. Luka is 25 right now. Why are we comparing their first 6 seasons. Is it lukas fault he entered the league 4 years younger then bird? The luka and bird comparison is totally fair in my opinion. Luka is arguably the greatest 20 and 21 year old to ever play. What he did vs a healthy clippers team was an unbelievable display of talent, skill, maturity and clutch shot making for someone of that age. He was the best player on the floor over prime kawhi at 20 years old. Larry bird was playing in college at 22 years old, let alone 20 years old
@MightGuy-dp7lo
@MightGuy-dp7lo 21 күн бұрын
This is just silly argument. The entire league is younger now, the idea you should get brownie points because you came in younger is just silly.
@gnome-ski
@gnome-ski 24 күн бұрын
i dont know if bird is a better passer than luka, luka is probably the best passer in the league now and many of those passes are like wow how did he do that kinda passes.
@iamestew
@iamestew 24 күн бұрын
Saying Larry is a better passer than Luka is insane
@BlixkedTwice
@BlixkedTwice 24 күн бұрын
They don’t watch
@TheEdub1
@TheEdub1 24 күн бұрын
Larry is a better passer
@aubhreypender3091
@aubhreypender3091 24 күн бұрын
No it’s not.
@Redwindsgoeast
@Redwindsgoeast 24 күн бұрын
Did you watch Larry????
@KingJ666
@KingJ666 24 күн бұрын
Larry is a better passer, shooter and rebounder
@Snooozee_
@Snooozee_ 24 күн бұрын
luka would cook Larry
@juliothom2408
@juliothom2408 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely not. Prime Larry is the best all around player ever. 28/10/7 on 50/40/90 on an era people actually played D.
@stanislavbarbos7095
@stanislavbarbos7095 24 күн бұрын
There many incomparable things and people in the world But I can compare Keyshawn to Perk and both of them to a very passionate and straight from the heart preacher From some local church in the South
@TMondo500
@TMondo500 24 күн бұрын
No matter who on this show I'm here for my boy skip he make it interesting to watch
@BladimirRivas-rh1ty
@BladimirRivas-rh1ty 24 күн бұрын
PP was hitting facts when he won the 3 point contest in 2010
@Mike1ex537
@Mike1ex537 24 күн бұрын
Those numbers aren’t really accurate… Adam Silver changed the rules (2017) And the numbers from 40,50 point games and triple doubles are so much easier to get along with way more possessions!
@aubreywalton9742
@aubreywalton9742 4 күн бұрын
Larry bird made an all defensive team, and attempted to play defense. Doncic is a joke on defense. He is the main reason why the Mavs lost yesterday. He couldn't keep his man in front of him. The celtics attacked him and went around him like his feet were nailed to the floor. This is a GLARING deficiency , and he gets a pass from all of these "commentators"
@autoscopy
@autoscopy 24 күн бұрын
It's always hard to compare players from different eras because of rule changes, sports science and complimentary players.
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