Why Don't These Schools Have Football? (Gonzaga, Creighton, Long Beach State)

[@joshuaamos1579]

Videos like this make me realize how resilient Marshall was to keep their program going

[@peterskrobola8753]

And they follow through and unlike Creighton actually beat Notre Dame, lol

[@claystripe6514]

Fun fact- the absolutely jacked fella in the Long Beach segment, Leon Burns, broke multiple NCAA rushing records at LB due to being 5-10 years older than everyone he played, having served a prison sentence right after high school. He remains the oldest first round pick in NFL history, entering the league at 29 years old.

[@mrterp04]

Not-so-fun fact: George Allen may have passed away due to the after effects of getting a Gatorade bath at Long Beach State

[@madc2004]

How?

[@IBangedUrMom69420]

@@madc2004They showered him In Gatorade in 50 degree weather and he wore the soaked clothes for ages out there for interviews and stuff. His son says it’s false though, George died of V-fib, an abnormal heart rhythm.

[@trentononeill5493]

@@madc2004After winning a season ending matchup, Long Beach State players dumped ‘Gatorade’ on the coach, six weeks later was announced dead. People speculate that his death was caused by pneumonia- but in reality he suffered from a cardiac arrest due to his heart arrhythmia.

[@thecatwrangler9448]

@@trentononeill5493you wouldn’t know? I was there, he had a scarf on that day before tipoff smh don’t listen to the media

[@NapTownKid410]

I would enjoy seeing a video about D2 or D3 schools that have won D1 National Championships. Such as Johns Hopkins lacrosse or Minnesota-Duluth Ice Hockey

[@GeeseMan77]

Really wish creighton had kept their team. The Midwest could use some more FBS teams

[@yayhay1]

If they were a little larger I could see them being like a Midwest TCU or SMU.

[@JL86753]

They could have a lopsided rivalry with Nebraska

[@lukebenson660]

to be fair they would most likely be FCS

[@tommykeeran6776]

@@lukebenson660 Yeah either in the MVFC or would have dropped scholarships and joined the likes of Drake and Dayton in the Pioneer.

[@prestonhunter45]

The 1983 creighton football team was the greatest football team of all time. It’s sad not a lot of people got to see them play 😂

[@augiegirl1]

I've commented on other videos about a person I saw at my job, who was wearing a shirt that said “Creighton Football” on the front, & “Still Undefeated” on the back. Even growing up in Nebraska, I never knew that Creighton had ever had football, especially since that was even before my parents were born. I don't remember ever hearing the 1983 story, either, but I was only 5 at that time. Since Creighton clearly wasn't undefeated back when they had a real football team, (pre-WWII) I suspect the shirt I saw was referring to the 1983 joke story.

[@chris_huffman4]

@@augiegirl1joke story??? it was obviously real idk what ur talking about 🤨

[@JayIsAKnicksFan1]

​@@chris_huffman4It's a joke it's not real

[@warrenjacobs194]

It’s really fascinating learning about how WW2 affected college athletics so much. That would actually be an awesome video, talking about how it killed some programs, helped make Army and Navy into dynasties, the flight school football teams, and made some odd rivalries like Notre Dame-Navy

[@razormc954]

I mean it did affect pro sports too

[@tommykeeran6776]

Notre Dame's excuse to keep playing Navy is BS. Yes, they were hurting, and yes, the Navy setting up a training school on campus probably helped. But that was the case for A LOT of schools out there. Do you see anyone else using it as a reason to keep playing a massively overpowered program every year 80 years later? ND likes the easy win, that's it. If Navy went on a 10 year run where they beat them 9 times, ND would be begging to end the series. But no one points it out because we're all supposed to bow down to Notre Dame.

[@warrenjacobs194]

@@tommykeeran6776 ok, while it is a lopsided series and a rivalry in only the loosest sense of the word, don’t act like every every SEC program would fill their non-conference schedule with group of 5 and FCS cupcakes if they had a chance.

[@tommykeeran6776]

@warrenjacobs194 I have no problem with the idea the series is played. The SEC, ACC, Big Ten all pad their non con schedules, that part doesn't matter to me. It's simply the reasoning they give. Just say it's mutually beneficial for you to get the easy win and Navy to get the money and exposure. Making it about 80 year old events that you're not alone in is weak. That would be like Ohio State playing Youngstown State every year and using the reasoning of Jim Tressel won us a national title so we're giving back to him. Nah, it's the win and the exposure for the lesser program. And that's ok.

[@warrenjacobs194]

@@tommykeeran6776 I suppose in that sense you are right. I think it’s just a catch-22. My friends in the navy don’t care about that game, they care about the commander’s cup more. If it was competitive, it could be good, but if they moved it to a non-annual game, I suppose that literally nobody would care about it. I still think in general though learning about how WW2 impacted American universities in academics, athletics, and the GI bill is interesting just because it created the “Americana” we associate the 50’s with.

[@cfoster81]

I'm from the Washington DC area and George Washington University, although it's a private university, is the largest college in the city. The Colonials (Now known as the Revolutionaries) had a Football program, only briefly stopping for WWII, from 1881 to 1966. During that span they played against at least six current teams in Division 1 FBS or FCS, most notably, Cincinnati, who were an Independent, West Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Virginia and Virginia Tech, which were a part of the conference that spawned the Southeastern Conference and the Atlantic Coast Conference, the Southern Conference. Their one and so far only Bowl game they played was the 1956 Sun Bowl against UTEP (then known as Texas Western) which GW won. The best years of the program were from the 1930's after the onset of "The Great Depression" to the 1950's as the Southern Conference became smaller and not as large in their early years. Currently ,the only Colleges that currently play College Football in DC are Howard University and Georgetown, in which both of those programs are in the FCS, and Catholic University in Division 3. I think their story should be told in hopes of GW re-establishing the Football team and I also think you would be the best to tell their story. Furthermore, before the program was discontinued, they were a tenant at DC Stadium (Later renamed Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Stadium , aka "RFK") and most of the time, they played their home games on Friday nights and shared the stadium with the then Washington Redskins (now Commanders) and the expansion Washington Senators (now the Texas Rangers) as well as prior to RFK being built, Shared Griffith Stadium with the original Washington Senators (now the Minnesota Twins) as well as the Skins

[@brickpalace2282]

Another interesting one to add... Pepperdine in Malibu, CA

[@Lawomenshoops]

The vote by Cal State Long Beach students meant they would have to pay for football to come back! That’s a different question than asking the, if they want football at their school.

[@fighterck6241]

Well, since that's the only way that it would ever come back, that's pretty much the only question that matters.

[@d0ntfeedphil447]

I can't wait for the video on the former Big West football programs

[@justinganz1173]

We need to have more videos on the Big West

[@sawyertuide7636]

The Touchback did a really good summary on the fall of the Big West and California’s fallen football programs I personally believe UCSB had the greatest chance of all of them to thrive in the Pioneer but that’s just me

[@brandon074]

A not-so-fun fact for WYOMING fans...In the early 1920s, Gonzaga destroyed Wyoming, 77-0, in our worst loss ever in Wyoming history (1893-present).

[@ExplorationB68]

Didn't know that lol

[@BobKubby22]

Your vids are so awesome! Imagine today a rivalry of Creighton and Wichita State in football. That would be amazing! But alas money always talks. But keep up with the fun videos. Love the history!PS could you consider doing a video on San Francisco and Santa Clara? I know a few folks on the west coast who ask why their programs ended. Thanks

[@jimhenry8714]

Thanks for doing a segment on Long Beach St, and not mentioning the shark. :P Also, thanks for mentioning Terrell Davis, who played his Freshman Year at The Beach under Willie Brown, and redshirted for George Allen, who recruited him. One correction... LB joined the CCAA in FB in 1958, not the Big West, which didn't exist yet. LB was one of the 7 schools that formed the Big West, then called the PCAA, Pacific Coast Athletic Association, on July 1, 1969, for the 1969 football season. They should have had a second bowl game for winning the 1980 conference title, but the PCAA had no bowl affiliation that year. The California Bowl in Fresno would be created in 1981. UNDEFEATED SINCE 1991! LOL

[@michaelj5037]

This is great! Would love to see a long form video about defunct conferences / football programs! Love the content

[@randypradavinsky]

It would be cool if you did a video strickly in Gonzaga as a college basketball program and about all its hurdles it has had to climb to get where it is today!

[@g.t.richardson6311]

All we’d hear is a Mark few love fest They made elite 8 before he was the head coach

[@andrewcoen1373]

Should do video on Hofstra’s former football program that was axed after 2009 season given the many NFL players it produced like Wayne Chrebet and Marques Colston

[@samuraisaxon6800]

Heard rumors that Xavier (cincy) is in the works of fielding a program similar to Butler

[@markjackson6431]

i wish UChicago and NYU were still D1 and had their football teams

[@williamdiemert9866]

University of Chicago have a football program that is in Division III

[@ElwoodPDowd1970]

The guy on the Heisman is actually modeled on an NYU player, isn't it?

[@APG23994]

Add UC Riverside, San Fran State, CSUN, CSUF, Pepperdine, UCSB, Pacific just to mention a few.

[@Moreorlesss996]

As a Long Beach State alumni, i would love a football team.

[@ThatGuyTrice]

You should make a video about which FCS teams are most likely to make the jump to the FBS next!

[@kartierglory]

Was about to say "Houston Stockton" sounds like what we'd call John Stockton if he played for the rockets 💀 then you dropped the bomb

[@ScottFisherCFB]

That Creighton football story is awesome!

[@thekang79]

Here’s a video idea I think you’ll like: Take the schools mentioned in this video (including the ones you only mentioned in the beginning) and rank them based on each school’s ability to put together a football team.

[@bwaves09]

Please make a video on The Big West

[@chasea3]

I’ve already won 3 nattys with my Creighton team builder team

[@EthanNeal]

BYU-I (at the time Ricks College) once had a football team until 2001. It's interesting because it wasn't a money issue, quite the opposite given the LDS Church is massively wealthy. Even 23 years later, the football stadium on campus is kept up to date despite now only rec league football being played

[@BubbaBrons]

You should tell the story of UAB’s program! Great videos btw!

[@jonthelen8800]

You should do a video on why the other major Wisconsin universities (Marquette, Milwaukee, and Green Bay) don’t have football programs

[@bobcostas1331]

Pacific? Univ of Santa Barbara? Santa Clara? Crazy they don’t have teams, just California teams

[@awill3454]

Wait, Pacific doesn’t have a team anymore? The Spanos family, owners of the Chargers, are huge donors to the school. After Ryan Leaf fizzled out with the Chargers, they brought in Craig Whelihan, who played for Pacific.

[@tommykeeran6776]

@@awill3454 Pacific dropped football after 1995.

[@leewalker2349]

I would love to see a video about the St. Mary's football program. They dropped football a couple of years after i graduated and out all those resources towards the basketball program. I miss the football team. I would take it back even if it were a Division 3 program now.

[@ksolesky2]

That's a smart school. I'm a fan of Indiana State and we beg our president and AD every year to cut football and put more resources into basketball and baseball. By the time whatever the new NCAA revenue sharing system kicks in and forces non-power schools to cut football, it'll be too late because those funds will be needed to keep basketball/baseball afloat, not on improving

[@paulvoas3328]

Football is in a little bit of trouble because of the risk of concussions and it’s not necessarily football‘s fault. When I was a kid in the 70s, we played tackle football with no padding and almost nobody got hurt because like rugby players no, you learn to keep your head out of the way after that first your head as a kid. additionally over the last 20 years of the advent of cell phones, social media, video games, and helicopter parents who are afraid to let their children out of the house, children do not play outside and climb trees, and ‘ do dangerous things in a safe manner’ which allows them to build strength, especially core strength, and physical and mental resilience. As a lacrosse coach, I realize that it wasn’t the hits or the contacts that caused most concussions, but when somebody was knocked off balance, and they hit their head. That was mainly due to the fact that even though these kids played sports since they were kids they still didn’t have the course strength necessary to keep their balance in the first place and also where they are in space safe. There’s also a reason that in my experience playing against Canadian teams, they’re not only usually better than American teams at least in lacrosse, but they also play rough because they have national healthcare and they’re not worried about their kids getting hurt because they know that they’ll get treatment instead of their family going bankrupt. This is another reason why football is declined because we don’t have national healthcare and many families cannot afford to have their child hurt . I also work as a teacher and I’ve seen the negative effects of trying to keep children safe on the playground. And an effort to keep children safe we have taken all the equipment off the playground that allows them to try dangerous things at their ability safely. Like all things in life we need to practice to make progress and improve and that means starting at 34 and five years old doing dangerous things safely, roughhousing, playing tag, however, sadly, we have taken this all away from children and wonder why they are still getting hurt hurt. We also wonder why this is a generation of depression and anxiety. Go find the book the anxious generation. I would love to see all of these things in our society resolved so that sports like football could start growing again and possibly even expand college football ; and moreover, that football coaches would more readily except Lacrosse as a way to develop their football players to make them stronger, more flexible, and develop the skills to avoid injury, but sadly many football coaches at least here in the Northwest USA are indifferent to outwardly hostile to their football players playing lacrosse.

[@denisdooley1540]

I grew up in Cincinnati and was at Xavier University for an event.bthere were photos of their old football team, including a team that beat Arizona State University in a bowl game in the 1950s. Might be interesting to look at them in the same way. I've seen similar photos at the University of Portland, near where I currently live in Oregon.

[@MTalbot32510]

Great video idea, but what about Hofstra

[@pipingpepsi6665]

That’s a good one! They and Northeastern are the two teams that appear in NCAA Football 06, that have completely dropped their football programs!

[@bobbybrandon584]

On the subject of famous basketball schools: St. John's.

[@tommykeeran6776]

Hell, most of the Big East! St. John's, Providence, Seton Hall. What if DePaul had a team back in the day, Creighton kept there's, and they teamed up with the likes of Detroit, Xavier, Dayton, St. Louis, and Marquette when all of them had what would now be FBS teams? Instead, the only one with football period is Dayton and they're non scholarship. That would have been a pretty solid basketball league (could add Butler as well) while playing something resembling at least a mid major football league.

[@ThrawnTheater]

Something I find interesting about Gonzaga not playing football, is that Gonzaga Prep is one of the top high school football programs in the state.

[@EmperorPilaf04]

You should do Chicago and their original membership in the Big Ten (which technically continues today, along with an association with John's Hopkins for lacrosse)

[@AlexA-cc7bb]

You got a super underrated channel brother, hope you keep growing and wishin you the best

[@M_11_m41n]

It would be cool what could happen if we replace all the college football teams with the defunct college football teams that are still considered in Division 1 or used to have football programs in Division 1 with College Football 25.

[@patricknigro7804]

Go East with this idea. You could cover most of the Northeast with the several private schools and at least one flagship public school for the region (University of Vermont) dropping football. Many of these schools today focus on basketball and/or hockey and have had success in one or both sports.

[@arthurpasseri4590]

Do a video on the Ivy League...Yale still has more Football Championships than anyone else ..

[@MochaHaddock]

Great video, would love to see a what if video about if Michigan never rejoined the Big 10 in 1917.

[@tommykeeran6776]

God we could only all wish. I've also wondered what happens if Michigan never drops out/Notre Dame gets added like they wanted in the early 1900s and therefore Ohio State never gets added. Assuming we still grow the program where it is today....are we the Notre Dame type independent? Do we eventually get in the Big Ten anyway (I imagine the Ohio State vs. Michigan State vote in the late 40s would have been testy)? So many what ifs that

[@jayanderson7508]

Can you do the entirety of big east teams that don’t? As a USF fan growing up that was some of the best football before the split between bb/fb schools

[@punchy5668]

Fun fact I watched the Oakland university basketball team loose a scrimmage to a top Michigan high school team full of sophomores 😂

[@Lep2005]

could they start up a program in the Pioneer and test the waters before fully investing into a team to bring to a FCS or G5 conference (probably P4 in Gonzaga’s case)

[@BreakneckTV]

Marquette is a bigger brand than everyone (except Gonzaga) mentioned in the video or comments. Crazy that they don’t have football.

[@Megaalith]

They did, they were awful and ran out of money. I think the team could work better now than it did in the 50s but boosters would be better off trying to launch one of the many UW teams.

[@BreakneckTV]

@@Megaalith​​⁠​⁠I’m aware that they had football until 1960. All the teams the video talked about did. My point was the whole premise of his video is popular basketball schools that don’t have football and then framed it as if Long Beach State and Creighton were two of the biggest schools to not have football.

[@BreakneckTV]

And now they would never run out of money so that wouldn’t be an issue anymore

[@thegamecock22]

After Creighton’s President won the Heisman Trophy, NFL MVP, and stopped Goldenface from blowing up the NHL All-Star Game, he had a nice NFL career until he tore his ACL on bad turf in 1986. The good news is he now lives a relaxing life in Hawaii.

[@tommykeeran6776]

I love the what if type questions so here's one I mentioned in another comment. What if DePaul had football and Creighton and St. Louis kept their teams into the 60s and 70s? We could have had a Midwestern based league consisting of DePaul, Creighton, Marquette, St. Louis, Wichita State, Detroit Mercy, Xavier, Dayton, and Butler that would have been a VERY solid basketball league and played something at least resembling a current MAC/Sun Belt type of football conference. Instead, 7 of the 9 no longer have football teams at all, and the 2 that do (Butler and Dayton) have low budget non scholarship teams that would be at the D3 level if the NCAA let them play down there.

[@docmumpjr.1363]

Do a video on North American university’s football team

[@B193Alex]

My local state college CSU Stanislaus has a running gag that they have been undefeated in football play since their founding in 1957 because they never had one to begin with. Cant lose football games if youve never had a football team

[@charredolive]

One school that I've never understood not having a team is UNCW. Pretty decent sized school population, with a lot of competition nearby to play in either Div 2 or Div 1

[@kagemusha7029]

Wichita State used to have football team ,but they decided to disband it sometime after football divided into 2 divisions (FBS known as Division 1-A) and FCS (1-AA) that forced many teams to make decision whether they stay in 1-A or downgraded to 1-AA or disband football program.

[@arthurpasseri4590]

University of Tampa had a great football program, but they disbanded it after the NFL granted Tampa a franchise. They went to Division 2.

[@einherjar9364]

Vermont! The catamounts used to host football, and now the state has no Div I football programs!

[@igorslocks]

Marquette would be a good one to cover. And DePaul once had a program. That would be a great rivalry if it existed

[@masonzolman301]

Fun fact, Gus Dorais moved to my hometown and bought the Chevy dealership a bit after he was done with football

[@cbjm36]

Would like to see a video on some of the Big East schools that don’t have one. As an Ohioan, I’ve always wanted Xavier to have a program. Would get to see the crosstown showdown with Cincinnati on the football field and maybe establish a rivalry with another Catholic school in southwestern Ohio, U Dayton

[@cicada9471]

You should do something on the University of Tampa and Seewane

[@tommykeeran6776]

Sewanee actually still has football! Just in D3, which is where a school that size belongs at this point. But their crazy run winning like 5 games in 7 days was amazing and always makes for a fun story.

[@Ianmccor]

Particularly as a fan of a school who hasn't had football since 1950 (High Point), I do worry that non-football schools are getting screwed over by realignment if even Gonzaga is seen as an afterthought. This thinking is also ruining college basketball in general as well.

[@thomastime8511]

Talk about Marquette and Chicago

[@thomaswilhelm7001]

Wake up honey, dalukes just posted another obscure cfb history video

[@arthurpasseri4590]

Do a video on Big East Football teams...

[@PeteMcCorvey]

I didn't know Gonzaga or Creighton didn't have a football team.

[@LuemD]

5:49 Ouch

[@yorkqueer]

man, Gonzaga football always feels like a great idea

[@troybaxter]

A cool video you could do would be about the first time the Rose Bowl was not played at the Rose Bowl.

[@drhouse6165]

I already commented on the community post with this but I will never miss the chance to say how the university of Nebraska puts the screws to any other team in the state. Got UNO football killed when they moved to D1 and Trev Alberts got to fail upwards after gutting the school. Creighton, if they ever decided to return to football, would literally have to put up with political pressure in the state to keep Nebraska the only game in town. When UNO was a division TWO team they couldn't play home games on the same day as Nebraska. Absurd.

[@LowellFay-u6q]

The University of Denver hasn't had a football team since 1962. How about doing one on that school.

[@grapeapeductape2489]

The war really effected the old Bluejays, they realized they could buy shoes and balls a helluva lot cheaper than pads and helmets.

[@linktown-blue907]

Turned out to be the right decision because now they’re actually relevant

[@whyguy12]

Gonzaga is getting a team back now that they’re joining the Pac12

[@Homedepotorange]

Anyone who says theres nothing like March Madness has never seen Japanese High School Baseball

[@andreking1182]

I just subscribed to your channel

[@jwpg0312]

Please do UMass Lowell

[@leroymaxwellii2747]

They need a football 🏈 program matter of fact all the schools need one

[@Joshua00405]

So Creighton was the real life Opposums?

[@ChrisBakerauthor]

What about Xavier?

[@jesusavalos4112]

Talk about the downfall of Cal football.

[@pumpupland3764]

Would the allies have won WWII without Gonzaga? Interesting question worth asking.

[@gray-like-the-color]

I remember when Creighton’s football team won the World Series of poker with an empty net in 1947, I met my wife that game. Her name? Michelle Obama.

[@brianjacob8728]

Creighton gave up football before 1983. I believe it was in the 50s or 60s due to a death of a player during a game. Fwiw I grew up in Omaha during this period.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Many schools stopped football during WWII. The NFL even combined the Eagles and. Steelers during WWII! You’re making it seem like these two schools were the only ones affected!

[@BarnabyJones07]

Creighton pulled a Bishop Sycamore before it was cool

[@bradenrujawitz]

What students are voting against a football team at Long Beach State?

[@lukeontheplains]

Students that didn't want to pay for it with tuition hikes, is my guess

[@fastpaxscoasters]

You gotta bring that up huh? From a proud UK Fan and Mark Pope Believer.

[@georgeanthonyflores499]

Long Beach State 49'ers!!! #49ersForever

[@BernarkaHopes]

Georgetown should be here as well

[@mosespf]

why doesn’t GCU have football? also UTampa not having football is wild lmao

[@robmclean4352]

I'm shocked that you talk about LBSU and George Allen without discussing Allen's death. Per Wiki: "There was some speculation afterward that his death may have been caused by a form of Gatorade shower. On November 17, some of his Long Beach State players dumped a Gatorade bucket filled with ice water on him following a season-ending victory over UNLV; in an interview (...) (Allen) said that he had felt somewhat unwell since then. (...) (T)he temperature was in the 50s with a biting wind. Allen stayed on the field for media interviews for a considerable length of time in his drenched clothing, and remained in his wet clothing on the bus back to Long Beach State."

[@lukeontheplains]

felt disrespectful, so I avoided it

[@ec1628]

Cal State Fullerton!

[@purplesprigs]

Wichita State - absolutely no reason why there is no Shockers football.

[@shanceeaton9508]

Future doctors and accountants is crazy lol

[@emelvee0]

At least University of San Diego fields a football team. Go Toreros!

[@stephentobey8556]

Marquette. Vermont.

[@Sloppyplane37]

Do a video Wichita State football #TedLasso

[@jamespyle777]

Wisconsin played Marquette way more than Nebraska and Creighton and Wisconsin won every single game every year for the first game of the season.

[@markmelo2779]

Long Beach State is Kenough. They just beach.

[@pifferfairy6171]

long beach students some haters😭

[@Nathan_Lara]

YES THE BIG WEST

[@Revolver1701]

The University of North Florida has no football.

[@itsjohnnyr8560]

GCU shoutout

[@clarkysparky]

cole adams is awsome