I played the new Starfield 'Shattered Space' expansion...

[@LukeStephensTV]

I filmed this last night and have since finished more of the side content and quests. My opinion is unchanged. It's a very low effort DLC, and calling it an expansion is a stretch, especially when considering the competition like Shadow of the Erdtree, Phantom Liberty, or even Far Harbor. I don't know how this took them a YEAR to make, and charging $30 is only a good value when you remember they charge $5-$7 for individual quest DLCs through 'Creations.' Some people are claiming there are 2 new habs and at least one new follower to be found, but I haven't gotten any of it to work for me. I don't know if this is a bug or if they're just mistaken about those being in the DLC. Regardless, it's clearly not a major part of the DLC if there's debate about their existence, even for those who have finished it. But don't just believe me, check out their own Subreddit and see what Starfield fans are saying about it: www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/1ftf9rw/this_is_a_surprisingly_lukewarm_reaction_to/

[@Semblance1]

Lol LUKE warm reaction 🤣

[@captainp367]

Damn imma wait for a big sale then to play one day

[@HafaTalo]

I prepaid for Starfield and haven’t even played any missions after the Ryujin quest line and the main mission. Once I passed through unity I simply lost interest. Been trying to force myself to get at least 90 hrs out of it but sigh….I digress, kinda happy I watched this and don’t feel bad about not playing Shattered Space. I actually took off yesterday and forgot why so I played Kenshi.

[@Astristul]

Lol, the post has been removed by the Starfield moderators! 😅

[@lokitopacheco]

I'm really surprised that no one ever talked about the fact that anyone that says anything "not good" at the official reddit starfield community get their post deleted, as we have seen at the post mentioned.

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

But the Astronauts weren't bored when they landed on the moon. You must be doing something wrong.

[@TalesOfWar]

They were probably bored on their 3 day trip TO the Moon though lol.

[@RFKG]

🤣

[@Desmond-Dark]

I frikkin love your name

[@KimAlmighty1]

if i were an astronaut i wouldnt be bored i would be terrified if i did something wrong id die.

[@michaelnapper4565]

I still cannot believe those words were spoken. We live in such a stupid time.

[@matthewdeguire472]

Until Bethesda has a change in its staff, we can expect more of this going forward. I never thought I would say this, but I'm not that excited for TES6 anymore.

[@geordiejones5618]

Crazy that they peaked almost 20 years ago but only started selling when they stripped down their mechanics.

[@Mkrause762]

@@geordiejones5618the price of success

[@SpliffyHusk]

@@geordiejones5618simplicity is always gonna gain mass attention. Problem is their story writing became simpler and simpler and even kid friendly

[@Fatbeard87]

Same, man. Shit is sad

[@dvs21a]

They need a change of leadership. The leadership is poor at best and long past their sell by date.

[@yukis4422]

I got bored just watching you play in the livestream. The quality of Starfield has certainly adjusted my expectations for Elder Scrolls VI and Fallout 5.

[@kieran5476]

Real statement

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

BGS gonna turn into Ubisoft, great concept, poor execution.

[@isaacgarcia9234]

True Zero hype about the fallout franchise they don’t even know what to do with the history even less with this outdated games design

[@Otyrr]

I'm definitely not pre-ordering, or pre-purchasing anymore Bethesda games after Starfield.

[@dustindemuth1605]

yes i stopped being excited for those games because i know when they do finally come out, they wont be nearly half of what we are expecting. it's very sad.

[@deniskasperovich8251]

It just so funny that Starfield takes place in an entire galaxy but the cities have like 5 houses in them 😂

[@toshtao1]

It's shrunken down. Skyrim is the size of a province but is shrunken down to 10 km.

[@db5094]

Skyrim had a better network of towns, cities, rivers and defenses to make it feel like a land though​@@toshtao1

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

@@toshtao1 Technology is advanced enough that we don’t have the shrunk thing that much. Wticher 3 in 2015 had bigger city

[@toshtao1]

@@CaptainRx-ss3rt Bigger means less fun. Starfield is proof of that.

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

@@toshtao1 Starfield is bigger of the wrong stuff, it’s bigger in emptiness rather than substance. No one complain that the map of Zelda or Elden ring is big af, neither in Baldur’s gate or spiderman, Ubisoft has goergous and large cities too and it’s the strenght of their games. Novigrade back in 2015 was beautiful to simply walk through, and this city alone is cleaner, has more personality and is better achieved than all of Starfield city combined 8 years later. Was Novigrade fully functionnal ? No, but it give a beautiful background for your activities and gives the illusion that the world is actually alive, and no one complained about that either.

[@CaptainAugust]

It’s obviously a faction quest line that was cut from the main game

[@JaceMorley]

To be fair, if it was an actual base game faction questline you'd have spent five minutes on the actual planet and the rest of the quests going to random space battles and empty fishbowls.

[@randybutternub031]

@@JaceMorleythe hell are you even trying to to say?

[@JaceMorley]

@@randybutternub031 If it was included in the basegame it'd have followed the basegame design philosophy. The DLC at least provides an actually self-contained custom built worldspace rather than a chain of radient locations in empty fishbowls, and that kind of curated worldspace was one of the things Starfield's basegame had a lack of. Starfield would have been a better game if all the main cities were built like this DLC, rather than being basically placed in the middle of proc-gen'd nonsense and constantly directing you to leave the city to jump through five loading screens just to explore more nonsense. This DLC doesn't fix Starfield (which is what a lot of people wanted), but it is an interesting glimpse into what Starfield probably should have been built like in the first place.

[@Kevin-zv6ds]

Yeah, no, there's many new unique POI's. The people saying the DLC is short basically just played the main story.

[@robeiur]

@@JaceMorley please rephrase English again please.

[@GripChief]

We don't need dlc, we already have 1000 planets to explore

[@obama2420]

And 16 times the details

[@ZombieGojira]

Yeah empty, barren and boring 1000 planets to explore. Granted you might see the same outpost over and over but hey, who cares right?

[@FullMetalB]

There is no way this is a serious comment lol

[@kieran5476]

​@@ZombieGojira it was a joke 💀

[@calebkeck7840]

Dog model

[@lethanosjames2976]

One thing about this game is the NPCs dont shut up, they keep on talking forever with nothing of substance being said. Add to that the fact that bethesda treats its playerbase like literal children with its "family friendly" dialogue. I mean seriously, the big majority of bethesda fansbase are middle aged man

[@Nudderbols]

Bethesda was at its best when every NPC called you a slur. N'wah

[@xtranathor8143]

I'm old but that doesn't mean I want to listen to crude dialogue either. However, I don't mind am expanded lexicon being used given the age rating of the game; just make sure to use diversity in adjectives.

[@JWalters388]

I already had that problem with Skyrim NPCs. At least Oblivion NPCs do the logical thing by giving greetings, instead of yapping their backstory when you're getting near them.

[@gudmundur-heimisson]

Those famous for good deeds may receive Blessings of Intelligence and Magicka when they visit Wayshrines of Julianos.

[@pjisleta1994]

do they still have stared faces?

[@Magicbannana6]

Having the ship technician say “it’s been a while since I’ve worked on a ship from the settled systems” and then seeing his entire stock black painted stroud ships from the settled systems has to be one of the biggest let downs. I literally stopped playing as soon as I saw that

[@thegethconsensus393]

Hold up. They didn’t even bother to add a house varuun ship set?

[@meatshackles]

@@thegethconsensus393 correct

[@benhagstrom2185]

They don't really spell it out in game but in order to access the Va'ruun ship parts, you have to highlight your entire ship, hi "J" for "color" (or whatever corresponding button on xbox) and then move all the sliders all the way to the left. This will instantly turn your existing ship into a Va'ruun vessel. The best part is it is totally free!

[@jadenr1514]

​@benhagstrom2185 wait really? Can you only do this with the DLC?

[@pwnomega4562]

​@@thegethconsensus393 yep, no custom va'ruun ship haps and parts. It's literally just normal stuff you'd find everywhere else. Your better off getting a ship parts mod

[@t0lar]

Bethesda quests are like stage plays, the script is already written, it tells you where to stand to trigger a scene and you move from scene to scene, you can add lib some lines (the in game dialogue “choices”), but the overall narrative doesn’t change.

[@ColaBeastMonster]

This DLC took a YEAR! to put into perspective, skyrim had all it's expansions within a year...

[@andrestanfield9294]

Wow, I played Skyrim late and never knew that. Would’ve never imagined

[@pwnomega4562]

Yeah they were working on this before even releasing Starfield... They had all this time and resources to make this DLC it's basically a wet fart.

[@KeytarArgonian]

Because of the people screeching for ground vehicles when it was never the games biggest problem.

[@weabootrash5891]

@@KeytarArgonian I mean to be fair walking through the empty proc-gen worlds was torture, so I get WHY people wanted anything to make them move faster

[@somethingbrite8484]

​@@KeytarArgonian It took them a year to do this and a dune buggy.

[@Kenpachi213]

Should I cancel my piratebay download ?

[@Killswitch1411]

yes

[@CheesyX2]

definitely

[@SpottedHares]

Theirs probable better things to spend your bandwidth on.

[@Mk-ko6ot]

Haha 😂. Not even worthy of being pirated😢

[@GespenstMorder]

Pirate another game.

[@joris1454]

Actually baffled how many people give bethesda a pass for a low effort boring repetitive game.

[@screaminjesus]

starfield is a ship building game with a shitty rpg tacked on

[@stirlinggerbic-forsyth3345]

​@screaminjesus not even a good ship building game, given you have no control over the interior, like where doors go.

[@zerpent5767]

@@screaminjesus space engineers is a better game AND a better ship builder

[@Purplinessky]

Nah i have given them enough, this was the last straw.

[@AkilaGagarin44]

The game is excellent :D I really liked, now if you base your opinion on what a youtuber says well that's unfortunate

[@InvaderShane]

30 dollars is crazy. Shadow of The Erdtree was 40 dollars and was essentially a new game in terms of size and scope. Remnant 2, one of the best ARPGs last year was 40 bucks for the entire game!

[@Dutchy4564]

Bg3 is £60 (about 70 dollars) and it's thousands of hours worth of content

[@InvaderShane]

@@Dutchy4564 exactly

[@Albus_Rex]

@@Dutchy4564 Games urinalists would take issue with that comment and argue that not everything can be compared to BG3. (I personally have 723 hours in BG3)

[@SpliffyHusk]

You also gotta be fair that Elden Ring has a smart development process of repurposing old mechanics/textures/models to save on development time and cost. The same thing Luke here commented on for Bethesda reusing a vfx from Skyrim. If people are mad about reskins then I wouldn’t use elden ring, I love Elden Ring so this ain’t hate. I don’t care if they reuse enemies from previous games, they have such a huge roster of new enemies so just adding more is a bonus.

[@DV-ou1yu]

Remnant is $50*, extra $25 for the full game lol 100% worth it.

[@ewjiml]

Cyberpunks only expansion Liberty City adds: -new dense playable area -skill tree and combat overhaul -new exciting story about president and being a spy -new cybernetics -new missions Starfield: Shattered Space: BUBBLES

[@subhankarbaral9236]

Why you are comparing Turdfield with Goatpunk? Cyberpunk nailed it with Phantom Liberty. Starfield felt "too safe" for me, as if Bethesda wants Fortnite kids also to play their game.

[@ewjiml]

@@subhankarbaral9236 aren’t we agreeing? Both are open world sci-fi. I think that warrants a comparison.

[@trolloman388]

Note that cyberpunk launch was almost unplayable on launch ... now its a great game but still thw launch was unacceptable

[@s0daapoppin]

​@@trolloman388I don't think people will ever forget Cyberpunk's launch state, cause it's been immortalized and memed to hell on the internet. But is it such a sin to appreciate the game's current state now ?? Cause it's leagues better, and it's honestly GOTY material.

[@ewjiml]

@@trolloman388 I agree. But the developers apologized and knew how bad their launch was. The CEO literally for on his knees for the shareholders because he knew their reputation was golden before the disaster.

[@Tolly7249]

'Just more Starfield' might be the strongest condemnation possible XD

[@GameHopping]

This took a year?

[@DanielSan1776]

hey! HEY NOW! they released a quest for $7 that had a sniper as a reward that was unusable for a month and a buggy/rover was released for free (cost in game currency though. idk why the Constellation doesn't have one....)

[@Geraduss]

That was my first question to.

[@Mreeg.]

Didn’t they also take a year to release the fo4 "next gen" update? And we know how that turned out. Although i guess it was free?

[@AlphaMachina]

This is what happens when your engine is an antiquated piece of shit.

[@AlphaMachina]

This is what happens when your engine is an antiquated POS.

[@KantFromEC]

I can't tell if its really funny or really sad that this is what Todd was dreaming of for 30 years..

[@venrahtryne5253]

Well some people's dreams are just boring and unimaginative

[@sukhoifockewulf]

Sad, it's sad

[@brianeno608]

I think he was dreaming of like...elite dangerous and or no man's sky, but then those games came out and yeah aha... That dream game has a shelf life I guess.

[@AwakenedSleeper009]

One can weep and laugh at the same time.

[@ickasaurus1195]

There was no dream. This game is so soulless, it's impossible this was anyone's "dream game". Him saying he was dreaming of this for 30 years was just marketing speak, to make people think this was gonna be their best game yet, but it's 100% their worst, no debating it. The sad part is anyone believing a word out of Todd's mouth, he's been full of shit and downgrading his games for 20 years

[@lethanosjames2976]

The starfield subreddit is in full copium mode rn, i called out bethesda for releasing 5 "new weapon" with literally 4 of them being reskin and some bethesda dweebs fanboy accused of not having played the DLC, you cant make this it up lmao

[@Chibicat2024]

There is an obvious one with the laser pistol, it is literally the same model with a mask over it. It is so evident that it feels like a slap in the face

[@lethanosjames2976]

@Chibicat2024 I counted 4 reskin total out of 5 new weapon, now compare that to phantom liberty

[@2138Dude]

@@Chibicat2024 Not one, its three. One for solstice, one for equinox, one for orion. All 3 just blatant reskins. And also there are 4 "new" armors, 3 of them are just different recolors of the same vanilla varuun suit, and one is mining spacesuit recolored into vomit green color.

[@SpliffyHusk]

@@lethanosjames2976it’s like 6 weapons, and three are unique, the others aren’t. Still not really a crazy thing, but honestly, they’ve always dropped like 1-3 new weapons in their expansions so this fits their quota. I’d say fallout 3 was their best dlc run. New area, new weapons and armor. Even if the new stuff didn’t break 3-5 in armor and weapons categories, still, 2 weapons per dlc when we got four is crazy. I think the dlc is fun, and the world is amazing and the story starts strong. But Emil, brother, that dude starts off great and gets overstimulated or something and falls off,

[@sparkzmentalz2]

Steam forums as well complaining about review bombing lol

[@FatalKitsune]

To be fair, the main plot of the DLC feeling forced is pretty on point, because that's how it was for the main story too. "You touched a rock! Take my ship and my robot!" "Why?" "Because I said so! OK BYE!"

[@blobber51]

Lmao

[@PoliticalHumorAndTruth]

Truly one of the most ignorant and stupid design decisions I've seen in a AAA game. It would have been so easy to have the ship owner invite you onto the ship and then say "want a chance to fly it for a bit"? It shows a complete ignorance of why people enjoy playing RPG's and building the character and EARNING rewards. Going around and picking up cups and and loot off corpses cant compare to getting a free Space ship for touching a rock. It is a total face plant right out of the gate and it amazes me they still have not changed a single thing about that awful introduction.

[@blobber51]

@@PoliticalHumorAndTruth true I hate how they rushed that

[@DrakenGuardz]

4:06 This reminds me of Nuka World's DLC in Fallout 4. As much as I enjoyed playing that, I hated the fact that I had to be a Raider Boss and there was no other way around it (apart from wiping them out but then you get locked out of the entire DLC basically). Felt like my character went through the same arc as Jamie Lannister

[@cgrado]

I played S.S. and chose the wrong ending of the main quest, and am now banned from the side/subquests. Hooray.

[@BeoSWulf]

I feel you. I wish they made it so you could try to negotiate with the raider or scare them off or smthn

[@snowbunnie1113]

Nuka World was so disappointing. I really wish that there were multiple options for dealing with the gangs. Imagine if we could have taken on the role of Mr House, by getting the robots from the battle zone area to serve us, and turned the Nuka World into the cola themed version of New Vegas! …oh well….

[@SpottedHares]

Wow you know marketing isn’t working when you see a review before any trailer.

[@olsongc8422]

Then you haven't been paying attention or refused to see it cause the trailer has been out for months now.

[@Dutchy4564]

It only popped up for me yesterday I thought it was releasing same time as ac shadows or ghost of yotei​@@olsongc8422

[@Mythicalgoon]

@@olsongc8422 Nono, if youre heavy into gaming you probably saw it sure. But the dlc definitely didnt have as many trailers as a say skyrim rerelease wouldve had. The game had abysmal reception theyre obviously not gonna market the dlc that hard

[@KinaIchi]

Huge into current news on gaming and had no idea it came out. Never saw a trailer and had no clue what it was about

[@smort123]

@@olsongc8422 What trailer?

[@gabestadler8865]

*Spoilers* My biggest issue with Shattered Space isn’t the just the retextured guns and outfits even though that’s just lazy and the ‘expansion’ only took a few hours to finish it. My biggest issue is what Bethesda told us, we will be faced with CHOICES that determine the fate of House Varrun. We don’t determine anything because if we choose the bad ending we die and guess what… we have to reload to our latest save! So we can’t choose a bad ending or anything. We have to choose to stop House Varrun even if we would like another war. Well once that is done, they need a new speaker and laugh at us if we would like to be the speaker. And we can also determine if they will have a second serpents crusade, but guess what happens if we choose that option… nothing again. There’s no big choices or consequences at all. There is only one ending. And they let you make these ‘big decisions’ like who will rule over them and if they will go to war again, but those big decisions don’t impact anything at all.

[@kenpachiramasama1139]

I was going to download since I already pay for it like an idiot. Your comment convinced me that isn’t even worth the time for the download let alone actually play it. Man there goes another gaming company I guess I’m not surprised but man did I hope it would do something different at least.

[@Foxador]

But you were faced with a choice! No one said you had to reload 😂 you chose to do that all on your own 😂

[@gabestadler8865]

@@Foxador Just let the game end and never touch it again after that😂 Character is canonically dead so you got a point🤣

[@polrish9570]

Bethesda is awful at player choice. They don’t actually want you to have any, just the illusion of it.

[@Foxador]

@@polrish9570 They do offer you a choice, but it has to be *their* choice and nothing else is accepted. They'll even flag every single npc as essential to make sure that it's the only choice

[@strider1237]

What in the hell happened to Bethesda? Did most of the talent leave? Was Skyrim and Fallout simply lightning in a bottle? The captivating writing, rewarding exploration, quirky NPCs, as well as the goofy or morbid quest designs we have grown to love from this company are completely GONE.

[@Trace153]

If it helps, they are doing better than BioWare and that shell of a brand. (They were my favorite dev team for two decades)

[@lucasLSD]

That was never there though lol, the good one is new vegas.

[@masonmurphy2679]

Ever since Morrowind released their games have gotten progressively worse Less features, worse writing, more bugs.....

[@MaMastoast]

Skyrim was just step slightly higher up on a path going steadily downwards since morrowind. Compare how the guilds work in Skyrim to how they work in morrowind and you'll see the increased focus on action and far less attention to world building

[@hansbendixen5430]

At least they havent gone full woke yet 😅

[@lumpythebored]

9:42 Nope! The choices you make don't matter!

[@JallyTee]

For a relatively new IP starfeild seems creatively bankrupt, games need to be i don't know....fun

[@masonmurphy2679]

@JallyTee for a "new" game they sure did cannibalize features from literally every other Bethesda game I swear the only "new" thing about it was the ship stuff

[@OwnerGriffin108]

Well good thing it is fun then.

[@joeverecondi8096]

Literally every questline/ area in starfield is just some other scifi story DONE WORSE. It's unbelievable that a billion dollar company can't just hire a couple of writers to make the entire thing 100x better. Did Emil Pagliarulo earn his job for life by saving a bunch of files from a burning building or something? What the fuck

[@8888UNIVERSE8888]

He is Todd's friend. He was a pupil of Ken Rolston (one of TES series fathers) if I recall correctly and everything Emil wrote for TES 4 was basically rearranged from sources of his teacher - Rolston. By the time of TES 5 Skyrim and Fallout 4 Bethesda has already had some good writers in their team, especially in one that created Far Harbor (ironically, but Will Shen , the head of Far Harbor dev team, ALSO left the studio with the LAST TES series father - Kurt Kuhlman). But somehow Emil is one of the most protected (by Todd) ignoramus in the history of Game Dev. Nevertheless there are more fundamental problems with Bethesda Game Studios than Emil...

[@SergenteHartman97]

@@8888UNIVERSE8888 Whil Shen appears to be also the lead quest designer of Starfield.

[@abrahambobst4602]

@@SergenteHartman97 Not really, Will Shen said in interview or some other related content that there was no communication going on between the teams and said they half-assed the ending of the main story. I'm sure that has to do with not using game documents too. I also got from what he revealed that he was done with the nonsense at BGS and couldn't wait to laeve, though I could be reading into his reveal and implications from months back.

[@carpenoctem]

He earned his job by giving Todd sloppy top in the broom closet. As is usual for creatively bankrupt writers.

[@bork750]

Nepotism and doubling down

[@Reforger13]

I (loading screen) love (loading screen) this (loading screen) game (loading screen)

[@dmart8451]

I think your system is not up to par. Loading screens take less than a second on Xbox series X. Barely notice them unless I load into the game from the main menu, about 15 seconds for that. All on default settings

[@Somejaun]

@@dmart8451there shouldn’t be that many loading screens in a modern game

[@hanley6478]

​@@dmart8451 As always, it is not about the duration of the loading screen but the numbers of loading screens constantly ruining the immersion. Stop blaming player's hardware for defending a bad design.

[@markthompson3725]

​@dmart8451 my Xbox series x couldn't handle my load file once my save file got big around level 140. If I got in an area with too many fauna or npcs around me, the game would stutter and freeze. And about a third of the time that it auto saved, the game would freeze and I'd have to close it and load the previous save.

[@Reforger13]

@@dmart8451(loading screen)

[@tomhanks1769]

Not a good sign if you can't enjoy a game without "turning your brain off." That's a sign of slop.

[@ZerotheeHero]

Sometimes turn ur brain off games are nice tho, just this is a rpg which isnt usually a genre one turns their brain off for

[@DrivingGod21]

If I have to actively think about turning my brain off, I just do the opposite. There's no such thing as "turning your brain off to enjoy something" It's called being unintelligent, shallow, and uninteresting. Sorry for anyone who likes Starfield, I'm sure you're fine. 😂

[@ZerotheeHero]

@@DrivingGod21 let me introduce u to the peak turn ur brain off game, PowerWasher Simulator

[@deucedeucerims]

Honestly starfield constantly prevents me from turning my brain off because it’s so incredibly unimmersive

[@Hoid765]

@@ZerotheeHero hey tell me if I’m wrong, cause I haven’t played powerwash simulator. But i felt like the point of it is to help you stop thinking about things outside of the game and relax? Not the game itself.

[@marcusmalone]

It's pretty clear at this point that Microsoft bought a lemon.

[@SHIRAORI_NOUSAGI]

Lemons are good and healthy though, that garbage is certainly not either of these things.

[@INF2.160]

And cant even make lemonade with it

[@PoliticalHumorAndTruth]

The one time I think it would be better to fire the entire bethesda team and bring it in house.

[@pixeldot7171]

I mean they atlesst got the IPs and also doom 3 exists.

[@elektrosmokes1911]

Microsoft IS a lemon.

[@DarkeningDemise]

"Keep it Stupid Boring" - Emil Pagliarulo, 2024.

[@Semblance1]

Bethesda is a glorified AA studio at this point. I’ve never seen such a successful studio become so susceptible to crippling stagnation. They have fallen so far behind that even Obsidian will soon surpass them.

[@Royallblu]

In my opinion Obsidian's Outer Worlds is already a more fun sci-fi game then Starfield. Yes, it is not that big, but bigger is not always better.

[@richardjalakas5190]

Honestly the gameplay isn't bad and Bethesda itself had it's last release with 76. The problem with Bethesda is that they take so long for games and since Starfields story telling and worldbuilding isn't enough to entertain people until TES6

[@jorge69696]

I would take an AA game from Supergiant Games over this slop any day.

[@OwnerGriffin108]

@@Royallbluouter worlds is ass the combat is like fo3 and the story is like wet garbage.

[@MrGriak]

I was hoping Andreja would have more dialogue in this update because she's my favorite companion. I was hoping it would be something like Far Harbor with Nick Valentine. I haven't finished the dlc, but I've gotten pretty far in, and I have been really disappointed at the lack of extra lines besides a few here and there. I feel like coming back to your homeland where previously you never thought you could return would be a huge moment for most people, but apparently, Bethesda thought otherwise.

[@Silver_Warden]

Well, it's made by the same folks who decided that finding your long lost son in Fallout 4 - the importance of which they wouldn't shut up about for the entirety of that game's storyline - doesn't even warrant ANY sort of reaction or comment from the vast majority of your companions, including the guy who helped you track your missing son down in the first place. Bethesda is very good at making these sorts of narrative decisions.

[@SpliffyHusk]

There’s a bug with the leadership affinity perk that messes with companions dialogue

[@carpenoctem]

@@SpliffyHusk Multiple people have done a playthrough without the perk, still no dialogue. Let's not cope with bethesda's inability to develop characters.

[@BlackJack55_55]

I ran the dlc with her as my companion the whole time. This was before my character knew of her ties to va'ruun are revealed. Maybe it's different if you have advanced her story enough before the dlc but idk. It adds a few lines to her personal quest about it afterwards, which is a rare touch of consistency on bethesda's part. Doing the dlc explains why her handler is using zealots to do his dirty work too. However, I would personally say it does not hold that much weight with the outcomes already known for her quest which is a shame.

[@KristianKumpula]

She's the only character in the game with significant depth and character growth, plus the voice actor's performance is outstanding. It's surprising that Bethesda didn't bother capitalising on one of the few things from the base game that they did exceptionally well.

[@oreroundpvp896]

The whole game is so bland and this DLC is no exception. It's a sci fi universe whereby there's only humans (without any interesting mystery/politics), and Earth has been destroyed by human hubris. Makes me want to fall asleep man. I got baited and bought the deluxe version but even I just can't be bothered playing the DLC, nothing about it at all seems interesting. Looking at the player numbers i'm not alone, there was about a 5k player spike, compare that to Cyberpunk which had a 250k player spike after its DLC.

[@davidrenton]

you nailed it with that 1 word BLAND. It's techically better than any TES/Fallout game. the towns are more detailed, it's more polished, it's graphically the best looking and at least for me the least buggy. But the world is of no interest , the quests are a checklist for XP to get a Skill that is of little point Loot you don't care about, encounters that are near identical Where the previous TES/Fallout games where like an interesting relationship, each meeting you looked forward, it's was fun, unpredictable, emotional starfield is like a 40 year marriage, where you have nothing to talk about, you can't stand the sight of each other and just waiting till it's all over

[@kenpachiramasama1139]

Right there with it on not playing the dlc. Starfield is unironically just fallout in space I’m not even joking the war they had made so your in a space age apocalypse society yet somehow they made it boring.

[@ethan_shrapnel]

@@davidrenton “loot that you don’t care about” is so on the money. I love collecting unique outfits and weapons like the Daedric artifacts and that aspect is nonexistent in Starfield. Their excuse may be adding more customization options but all that’s done is give Bethesda license to force us as players to make our own fun.

[@j4m3zwils0n7]

@@kenpachiramasama1139 Unfortunately internally BGS refereed to this as Skyrim in space, but its missing elements of Skyrim that make it feel like a world like a language other than English they created an entire sub language for Dragonborn in Skyrim to really solidify that group as their own culture. There are a lot of visual elements missing from Starfield in Skyrim you could burn someone into a pile of ash with magic same with fallout with laser weapons, but they removed that feature from starfield even though it was in previous games just bring back some of the previous systems from past games. Thats a Start.

[@themurmeli88]

I hope people remember this when TES VI and Fallout 5 come out; do not pre-order. Pre-ordering is enabling laziness.

[@chadwolf3840]

I played it for 2 hours, was bored to tears and I couldn’t take it and quit. BGS games have no soul.

[@SHIRAORI_NOUSAGI]

They used to have soul back then with Daggerfall and Oblivion because they were so bad in many ways they were actually fun to play. That's not the case anymore though.

[@nickbueno9678]

11:42 “BGS is pretty confident in what this game is” That’s the problem, they really really shouldn’t be. It’s the worst parts of fallout 4 in space.

[@Death13Horseman]

I didn't expect this expansion to be on the level of Phantom Liberty, but good lord this just feels like BGS are just going through the motions with this game.

[@garrukthewildspeaker262]

And we have Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty for the same price that has 10 times more hand crafted content, an interesting story, compelling and deep characters, cool sidequests, new vehicles, new guns, new gameplay mechanics, new ending to the main game etc. And look at Starfield that looks like it just came straight from 2011.

[@ryanwhite9103]

Hey! Don't insult 2011 like that.

[@AlonzoTG]

I bought a new copy of Assassin's Creed classic just to compare it to Starfield, (2008 iirc) and it creamed Starfield in all ways...

[@courieroftvs]

PL is almost a game within another game for the Cyberpunk universe and expanded so much on it. Shartered Space is a 30 USD Creation Club mod that was hyped to hell and back

[@goosegas2087]

Its not saying much considering my VTech Leappad has more content than this game

[@Captain-Cat]

I'm not paying 30 bucks for a 4 hour mission.

[@raoulpinkett5253]

You nailed it exactly

[@xtranathor8143]

​@@raoulpinkett5253it offers a lot more than a 4 hour mission - this review is really doing it dirty. However, I won't necessarily defend the price tag either. I'm just saying that it's better value than this video suggests.

[@dusermiginte4647]

I paid $0

[@ferenc-x7p]

If you don't skip the conversations and listen to them fully, it's 4.5hrs. 😆

[@jaksmante3136]

@@ferenc-x7p do you just go through the main quest when playing a game and call it a day?

[@samuelfawell9159]

I can’t shake the horrible feeling that this was rushed out, they focused on one location, but they still just threw it together as fast as possible trying to get people back in. Also that is absolutely the “summon” effect from Skyrim.

[@SongOfStorms411]

The fact that they continue to reuse major assets from past games after all the memes about reusing the dragon animations in FO76 is beyond embarrassing. They should’ve just owned it and put Dagoth Ur in this DLC. At least it would’ve generated more interest 😂.

[@TheKB27]

The fact it took over a year to make and it’s so short and boring and adds nothing new is so pathetic

[@The_Cranky_Painter]

"Why bother?" -Bethesda's motto.

[@tpyntavyk5552]

Luke, no one cares about spoilers for this crappy game. Just tell us and be over with it.

[@sinemkarlie3003]

Bethesda makes best stories nobody should spoil it delete this comment

[@MrLakdaddy]

I think he was trying not to spoil the movie:p I thought it was good.

[@carolean282]

​@@sinemkarlie3003 Andreja is from this planet and no one cares or talks to her. Thats immersion breaking. Oh and the ship engineer tells you "it's been ages since I worked on a ship from the settled systems.... while only selling ships from the settled systems" its the worst most boring story I've played. I have 3k hours in skyrim and 1.4k in fallout 4 with another 980h in new Vegas. I'm a Bethesda superfan, I even spent 300+ hours in this game to give it a chance. The writing is fucking shit

[@shotgunmcshotgun1142]

​@@sinemkarlie3003 read a book

[@Deans-jm3uf]

I appreciated lack of spoilers as I was considering buying.

[@prinzeisenherz4287]

Event Horizon is a Masterpiece!

[@issahumps]

The only good movie that director ever made 😂

[@r.e.z9428]

I too love Proto-Dead Space.

[@markshorthouse8564]

Lol if you say so lol it flops soo bad like starfield another crap game by xbox 😅

[@stipy5916]

The movie was good, dunno about the game never played it.

[@wreagfe]

It's a cult classic. Apparently he hasn't even seen it. Probably just read on Reddit that was the reference. Typical low quality review for low quality game.

[@playboyfan001]

"if you turn your brain off and go through it "... yeah, bgs games in a nutshell lol

[@NotLaSimia]

And there were people who believed that this DLC could fix this game.

[@MildPsychedelic]

I think BGS have just lost the ability to 'worldbuild'. Sure, there's been more technical and core game mechanic improvements since Morrowind and Oblivion, but it seems like they're struggling to actually make the worlds actually compelling or worth exploring. Fallout 4 was pretty bland (apart from the Glowing Sea) but Starfield is just downright boring.

[@emilymschoener9193]

This is it.

[@PgLangGang]

Fallout 4 is great. Everything else you said is very true.

[@ikennasmash1030]

Ave, true to Caesar

[@hopbup7401]

Fallout 4 was their home turf - East coast Boston. That’s why it was decent. Beyond this is out of their league.

[@davidrenton]

I'm playing Fallout London as well as Starfield, Starfield fells like a slog, just completing that list of missions, that i care nothing about, the characters i've already forgotton, , for loot that's all the same. Where Fallout London is how these games should be, it's seriously one of the best Bethesda games there is, oh wait, it's not Bethesda , i think that explains why :)

[@Pickle_Maniac]

Mountbatten Approves

[@zipforth]

3:00 That map looks so dreary. No shaders or anything, just a high contrast tan. And you can even see the squares around the points of interest that weren't blended into the surroundings

[@futix13]

Like traveling the Midwest

[@THISISLolesh]

I cant believe I waited so long for TES 6 and its probably gonna suck..

[@FryingPan1812]

4:11 "If you turn your brain off and go through it, you can enjoy it." Every Bethesda game ever.

[@dudebruh8534]

"So this morning Bethesda dropped Shattered Space" ... They did? I honestly forgot Starfield existed.

[@garrukthewildspeaker262]

Also remember, when skyrim came out, people were playing in non stop for 10 years, but no one remembers that Startield exists

[@richardjalakas5190]

I played it for an hour, closed it and opened New Vegas

[@ag8912]

More like shat dropped space

[@GeorgeL909]

Event Horizon was one of the best cosmic horror films we ever got. Aside from some heavy censoring from the studio at the time to keep it R rated, it was fantastic, and I don't think 90s reviewers really understood how good it was. Watch it ffs!

[@KITT.007]

Aaaand….it’s even more shattered!

[@TheSmiley686]

It sounds like this was cut content for the Va'Ruun faction which they decided to try and make into a DLC.

[@tomhanks1769]

Event horizon is one of my favourite movies 😊 This game however is not

[@davidrenton]

agreed EH is a classic

[@Geraduss]

The author of that movie said that he was inspired by Warhammer40k Warp concept in creating that movie, so yes instant like.

[@brandondrake69]

Agreed, starfield is in fact not a movie

[@darrencos]

The gall to say that Event Horizon flopped!

[@davidrenton]

@@darrencos sadly it did making 26 million on a 60 million budget, likewise another underrated cult classic from that time, Dark City , which slighty beat the Matrix to the screens

[@johntraynor4347]

3:40 So it’s basically just the Companions questline from Skyrim again.

[@katsu1715]

imagine paying 30 dollars to add the companions questline to skyrim IMAGINE IT (and you don't even get werewolves)

[@Kelsey-w4x]

​@katsu1715 the copy and pasting without the werewolf part is the biggest bummer

[@rodrickstark8516]

I can't believe there are no new outpost buildings and ship parts(which is arguably the best part of the game), two of the only things that I somewhat enjoyed in the game. It's like they don't know their own game

[@ritac9769]

The number of times you said 'expansion' got me thinking about how phenomenal this game could have been if it were based on The Expanse. Bethesda wouldn't have to do any heavy lifting in terms of world building, there're different factions with distinct, well-defined characteristics, there are only a few key locations where plotlines/quests could be concentrated, and the 'one thousand planets' could be locked behind a mid-plot point so people don't get bored and overwhelmed right away. Hell, I think the whole 'cowboy Martian' thing was fully ripped from The Expanse, and the voice actor for Sam Coe even had a part in the show. Huge missed opportunity, if it was ever on the table. Hopefully someday someone will make an incredible space RPG based on The Expanse because it will kick ass.

[@JodeeRozay]

The honesty is why I watch your videos

[@connorgregory5625]

I dont think theres a single thing that could bring me back to this game

[@CapitalTeeth]

I can tell that they tried to emulate Far Harbor from Fallout 4 in this DLC. But, well, whatever made Far Harbor interesting isn't present here. It really is just the classic "Oh please player, please save us from the calamity that unfolded recently and navigate milquetoast politics!" that you'd expect from Bethesda at this point. In Far Harbor, it was made interesting by you having the ability to shape the future of the island, and tying a few loose ends in the plot, like why the fuck Nick Valentine even is. There was also a clear "us vs them" aspect between the factions and it delved into more existential themes with the synths. But Shattered Space? None of that shit is present here. You're just paying for more of the same fucking game.

[@SirShadeyy]

We wanted Far Harbor but they gave us Automatron. Couldn’t even give us a Nuka World…

[@theyondant6088]

At least Automatron has the entirely unique and completely new robot building system, which can be kinda fun. But does Shattered Space have any kind of new system like that, something entirely unique to the expansion? Doesn't really look like it. This is more like the Vault Workshop DLC; more stuff that could easily have just been in the base game and a lacklustre experience to justify it in-universe.

[@ron.25]

Yes. Thanks Luke. Thanks for saying out loud, what has to be sad.

[@beige_projection]

14:30 It seems like there's no background music playing? Many great games have long dialogue scenes but they're always paired with gripping background music that makes you want to pay attention to what the characters are talking about. It seems like Bethesda didn't utilize the power of background music in this dlc?

[@theinternetofrandomthings7796]

Compared to Phantom Liberty for Cyberpunk2077, which is a good example of a hand crafted, narrative driven XP, this is an absolutely overpriced rip off. Heck its even poor compared to Far Harbour.

[@naimad2610]

Far harbour is easily one of my favourite expansions, I actually like it as much as phantom liberty. I haven't played starfield yet, I just got the game yesterday so I'm kinda curious to see although yeah it's clearly not gonna meet my expectations.

[@AbstractHexagon]

What happened to Bethesda? Like really. I don't get it. It's like they created a couple of masterpieces but by accident. They haven't figured out the recipe yet.

[@MaMastoast]

I think morrowind is Bethesda only true masterpiece. Oblivion had some really good guild quests, but a mediocre main quest and game Breaking level scaling. Skyrims Questlines mostly range from bland to awful, but the exploration has improved from oblivion. Both games also progressively removed or streamlined RPG mechanics. Starfield didn't come out nowhere, it's the result of a decades long decline

[@nothobbesmufc949]

@@AbstractHexagon the rest of the industry not only caught up to them but surpassed them is what happened. Skyrim was a standard of sorts in ARPGs for what it did at the time, and other game devs did what game devs should do. They tried to make something better. And they did for the past 13 years. Bethesda meanwhile is still in 2011 when it's 2024. I guarantee if you asked Bethesda how BG3 was made they'd not have a clue. "Wizards" or something probably 😂

[@hopbup7401]

Fallout was mostly acquired, TES is their area of expertise. They’ve failed to grow beyond this nor admit publicly that they cannot.

[@ImOriginallyGreen]

BABE get in here Luke just dropped another starfield video

[@FluxCrush]

Honey come quick, Luke made another video about Starfield. (We loved it)

[@RobHazard01]

I foolishly paid extra to play this game early when it was released so i have shattered space paid for. I still have no desire to play it.

[@mchapman2424]

I bought a new gen system specifically to play starfield. I was so damn excited to play this game. I mean shit, its todds dream game that he was thinking about for the last 25 years. I put about 200 hrs into it, and i truly cant believe how far bethesda has fallen. This game is trash

[@marcusnimako5019]

The fps character does not have a shadow. A video game problem that was rectified decades ago. Nitpicking, but it's there

[@Otyrr]

You walking around, it looks like the just recreated Big MT in Starfield 😂

[@DanielSan1776]

if only the quality was that level Big MT (Old World Blues) is one of my favorite DLC's ever cant believe we don't have a genocidal toaster.

[@corwincori861]

And made it worse, what a surprise.

[@CheesyX2]

It's Bethesda what else did people expect? To this day SKYRIM of all things is still not 100% finishable or even close to a bug-free experience without community patches and that after what? 14 years and 3 or 4 re-releases! Starfield is and never will be a good/compentent game and now comes the shocker, TES6 and FO5 will also be trash because it's still the same incompetent development team and still the same sh**ty old, broken to the core engine that limits what can be done gameplay- and graphics-wise.

[@jeremiahjohnson2784]

Skyrim isn't the best example as many mods specifically say to disable the creation club (Skyrim mp)

[@moralitykiller11]

If Skyrims only problem was bugs that would be a huge step up from the real deal. One of the main activieties of the game is combat and these Devs with incredible amounts of money and crazy manpower created one of the most boring combat systems ever with the most basic enemy AI every. And don't let me start talking about this abomination of a skill tree. To compensate for that did we get high quality writting? Who played a real crpg in his/her life knows the anwer is no. The Problem of Bethesda started with skyrim because as much as I understand that people love that game for it's world and atmosphere it never was the masterpiece that everyone praised it for. It had far too many flaws. Now Bethesda still thinks that consumers are stupid and that they can shovel mediocrity down our throats

[@daniell5740]

u can easily finish skyrim lmao

[@michaelh878]

​@@moralitykiller11How did it not start with oblivion?

[@moralitykiller11]

@@michaelh878 Good point. It had nearly all of the same flaws. Just some stories we're better written. But yeah I can't argue against that

[@Element.Nullify]

Event horizon is a great movie lol

[@benhagstrom2185]

I'm only a few hours in and taking my time to explore, but "just more Starfield" is the perfect way to put it. The stuff I like is still there, the stuff I dislike is still there, and the missed opportunities, specifically parts where Andreja should absolutely have some interesting dialogue, just weren't considered are certainly there.

[@Count-THICCula]

Event horizon is an underrated gem

[@t-rexreximus359]

Do we meet the Great Snek? 🐍

[@DarkAsDeath]

Spoiler . . . . . . . . . No

[@crackdog3523]

@@DarkAsDeath bruh are you serious..... that was like my major hope for this. The great danger noodle in the sky not real. boo

[@Purplinessky]

As if.

[@archierixon9645]

no that would have been risky and interesting. i really hoped that was were it was going but alas

[@Thordrel]

Can't say I'm surprised. I mean, it's Bethesda. You need to set the expectations low.

[@t-rexreximus359]

@@Thordrel I did!, but Todd ‘the limbo king’ Howard still managed to glide under that low bar. 😂 No new full companions (like the Constellation ones); no Varuun ship parts; and no new gameplay mechanics or QoL features added to the game at launch! 😅 We waited a year for this expansion.

[@Flyeaglesfly215]

Bro, Bethesda made Skyrim, fallouts, doom, what company is better then Bethesda when it comes to RPGs.

[@loganr6203]

​@@Flyeaglesfly215Larian? Obsidian? CDPR? Is this a real question? There are A LOT

[@zomalasg]

@@Flyeaglesfly215 it's harder to say which company is worse at making rpgs

[@Chibicat2024]

​​@@Flyeaglesfly215 the only game that has any kind of future from Bethesda is Doom, everything else... Well... Good luck 🤞

[@DoubleDamageGames]

I wonder how long Luke Stephens is going to find a way to bring "Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League" into every single video he makes...

[@cleverlikem3218]

who even thought that it would be a good game

[@bakalap2]

Dude Event Horizon is a masterpiece

[@DMichaels8621]

BGS is obviously a shell of what it used to be. It seems all the beloved studios we love in name have completely changed with new staff.

[@turdfergusonisafunnyname702]

All the fanboys making excuses why this is amazing and makes starfield playable again it's lazy garbage should be free it's nowhere near worth 30 euro or dollars.

[@AceRasputin]

The fanboys were already playing it and this is a bonus. It didn’t “make it playable.” The people who hated the base game still hate it now. It’s not complicated. A DLC won’t make something a different game.

[@chrism1966]

2 big Bethesda games in a row passed now. Guess I’ll just forget about elder scrolls 6.

[@roland1931]

Definitely NOT a Carbon copy of Event Horizon btw, a movie i know very well. The only thing that's similar is an abandoned space vessel with "something" strange going on inside, and thats only the first 45 mins of the dlc. Literally everything else is nothing like Event Horizon. Very false representation.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

He said the first mission, he even repeated it

[@GMoneyChuck89]

6:52 Oh, so it's the Mike Flanagan syndrome of "Anyways, I want to tell you a story about how my father inherited a sock factory . . ." type storytelling.

[@tiberiuskirk2593]

The comparison to Shadow of the Erdtree and the Cyberpunk Expansion is so stark.

[@nomadman_84]

Shattered Space, Shattered Expectations for TES6.

[@joshchaplin3705]

For the record. EVENT HORIZON WAS A DOPE ASS MOVIE LOL.

[@ryanmuck]

I was under the impression this was a free update and was still never going to try it. The fact that they haven't even polished their mediocre product and now want $30 (?!) for more buggy mediocre slop is embarrassing. I have very little hope for Elder Scrolls VI

[@Dutchy4564]

I think es6 will be fine I'm personally more worried about fallout 5 because if es6 does well Beth won't be putting any effort into fallout

[@santiagoherrera1853]

I will never understand why, with most players absolutely hating bug filled games and outdated gameplay mechanics, people just gave Bethesda a pass for the longest time until now, any other studio made the same mistakes and they get blasted for it

[@Kris.G]

Because, despite the problems, their games used to be a lot of fun.

[@WorstGamer92]

Man, Event Horizon was amazing. It definitely flopped in theaters, but now it's a cult movie. I mean, it's one of the major inspirations for the original dead space

[@romantaylor1854]

In Australian currency this expansion costs 60 dollars, I can buy a weeks worth of groceries for that instead.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

I would honestly rather buy 60 dollars worth of horse poo than shat space lmfao At least the poo can fertilise the garden

[@HeroVibes]

I loved the base game. Over 1,000 hours on both PC and Xbox. I jumped into the expansion, loved the opening mission and everything after the ship was just... mid.

[@emilymschoener9193]

Agreed. I was underwhelmed by Vulcan.

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I liked the base game, but looking at everything, both reviews and gameplay footage, I'm honestly not feeling it. I don't think I'm going to get this DLC. Definitely not for 30 EUR. It looks like it should be 20 EUR max, maybe even lower.

[@wildchild2626]

Starfield doesn’t make rpgs anymore don’t ya know? Just sandbox games like Minecraft

[@chrisabraham3830]

Cope.....great game

[@wildchild2626]

@@chrisabraham3830 ❤️

[@Kris.G]

@@chrisabraham3830 I love the game but it's not a real rpg.

[@wildchild2626]

@@chrisabraham3830 I didn’t even say it was a bad game lol

[@Frenchy_47]

Was anyone else even aware that there was a dlc?

[@garion333]

The marriage of hand crafted and procedural to form an engaging exploration loop has yet to be achieved.

[@Chopper153]

Shattered space is truly one of the DLCs released in 2024

[@novalongclaw5215]

I’m glad I didn’t spend $30 on this last night because I was high. I can’t wait to play BG3 with mods Xbox. We’ll see bout dragon age.

[@carpenoctem]

The small snippets of Veilguard gameplay we have been shown look far more interesting than the entirety of starfield, so there is that.

[@Axterix13]

@@carpenoctem That's pretty damning, considering how uninteresting the game play for DA:V looks. It's a bloody mobile game.

[@twistedsecret2554]

​@@Axterix13Honestly I feel like the mobile game comparison feels overused but in this case I can't begin to describe how perfectly it describes the game.

[@hanley6478]

You already lost by paying Bethesda for the base game.

[@novalongclaw5215]

@@hanley6478 game pass

[@ryrin6091]

"Starfield is supposed to be an RPG" Someone forgot to tell Bethesda.

[@emory4641]

Played this for ten mins. Downloaded a star wars mod after I got bored and that broke my game so I said fuck this and went to no mans sky. About 8 hours in and I'm loving it. Highly recommend playing that

[@the_seer_0421]

Honestly, no man's sky very much has its own fair share of issues but it's still a better choice than starfield.

[@emory4641]

@@the_seer_0421 100% for me, that was one of my first big let downs when it released. They’ve definitely fixed a lot since then and theres a lot more to do. What it lacks in story line and action and makes up for with little to zero loading screens lol

[@ArchTymeWizard]

I feel so sleepy just from the summary of the DLC, as relaxing as the loading screens.

[@meilinchan7314]

Starfield is to games what Garfield is to movies :D