LUO [of Kenya] vs KUMAM [of Uganda]: THE MOST DISTANT LUO TRIBE OF ALL

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KP Jaluo Abroad

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@AriCooksEastAfrica
@AriCooksEastAfrica 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! There are also a luo sub-tribe in Gambela, Ethiopia where I’m from called Anyuak. Anyuaks are on the boarder of Ethiopia and South Sudan. You should interview us too
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ariet, I'm actually planning the Gambella trip now. I'll be in Ethiopia soon for the Anyuak Interview 😊
@AriCooksEastAfrica
@AriCooksEastAfrica 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 yay! I’m so excited.
@AriCooksEastAfrica
@AriCooksEastAfrica 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 try Kwon and sukuma by anyuak people and see how you compare it to the one made by luo of Kenya
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@@AriCooksEastAfrica if I get to an Anyuak household I'll be happy to try it there 😂😂. Home-cooked meal
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ari Othow.. just checking whether you know.. KP K'ogot is right now in Gambela region (Ethiopia).. I hope you have already watched the first video produced there.. uploaded about a week ago... Thank you.. stay well..
@edwinekadu6772
@edwinekadu6772 3 ай бұрын
I believe Ronald may not be very proficient and fluent in Kumam. I'm sorry, but I wish you had interviewed someone more fluent, perhaps from a place like Kaberamaido or Kalaki, which are predominantly Kumam-speaking. For instance, the colour green is referred to as I think - "Lumlum" or "Alulum" ....(Something of the sort) in Kumam. The Kumam speakers in Amolatar often mix Kumam with some Langi. Ronald's Kumam has been influenced by another language, thats Langi, since Amolatar is predominantly a Langi-speaking district. I can't wait for interviews like this in the future, the comparisons are interesting.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I actually went to Kaberamaido later and recorded more than just the Kumam language.
@patochan1599
@patochan1599 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this video as we watch with my son!!! this is incredible! I am Kumam and my husband is Acholi.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know that I'm influencing a whole family 😍😍😍
@nabasacolleb890
@nabasacolleb890 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not getting anything but the fact that you are trying to unite with fellow brothers n sisters. I'm following each n every video without Fail
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm trying to leave a footprint in history as one of the individuals who took the initiative to reunite the luo
@emmanuelekakoro6065
@emmanuelekakoro6065 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting series. I can explain the difference in vocabulary. The Kumam speak a mixture of Luo and Ateso, and infact are considered by the Iteso to be their brothers. All those words that you're missing are actually from Ateso.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh really? So do Kumam think of themselves as luo or Teso?🤔
@emmanuelekakoro6065
@emmanuelekakoro6065 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 I leave that to a Kumam here to answer this. The language is mostly Luo in structure and vocbulary, but when we count the number of "Ateker" (the larger group that brings together related tribes from Kenya, Uganda, all the way to Ethiopia and South Sudan), Kumam are counted amongst them. The Langi have managed to get out despite the common origins with Ateker and retaining their clan system and a little vocabulary, their language is now more or less Luo, but the Kumam have not yet. Maybe one day they will, but in these days when languages are influencing each because of technology, maybe it will morph into a completely different language altogether.
@KevinWanjala-v6y
@KevinWanjala-v6y Жыл бұрын
I am Luhya but I have always been fascinated by the spread of Luo Languange. I once visited Tororo and I had a languange that resembles Luo, I made very many friends there. There was a guy called Owino who was my tour guide.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, luo is bigger than initially thought. The padhola of Tororo is about 98% similar to luo of Kenya and Tanzania
@birierimercylne
@birierimercylne Жыл бұрын
Kumam is much of itesot
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
There should also be a project to revisit those communities that were of Luo origin but lost their language yet maintained some of their culture and traditions and promt people to learn Dholuo. such as Bulamogi in busoga ; areas of Samia etc...
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Bulamogi? Never heard of this tribe before
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 it is a community which settled among the bantu Busoga of uganda as Luo moved towards Kenya. They lost the Luo language but maintained the royalty and culture of Luo and are aware of their background. They even maintained Luo blood. They maintained burial tombs of their kings which remind them of Their origins
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 ooh it would be interesting to visit these people and talk to the elders who understand the history
@OpiyoMorrish-xd8yh
@OpiyoMorrish-xd8yh Жыл бұрын
You are left with "Acholi tribe" of South Sudan. I love what you are doing with luo language comparison. That's all unity, go on forever
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Are Acholi of South Sudan different from Acholi of Uganda?
@dutpancholjongkuch2171
@dutpancholjongkuch2171 2 жыл бұрын
Try Anyuak, Chollo, Acholi, Pari and Luo Of Bar Elgazhal of South Sudan, we have a lot of similarities between ourselves
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
One step at a time. I will have everyone convered
@PLACESNONDESCRIPT
@PLACESNONDESCRIPT 2 жыл бұрын
Joluo untie nade?mie platform Na bende subscribers achope aluf achiel,Kumam sounds like turkana
@achanflorah9092
@achanflorah9092 2 жыл бұрын
There is that "ba" he keeps adding. It is used while emphasizing on the word but it is not part of the verb. otherwise great work
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I think it's just his favourite word because he seems to add it every 5 seconds 👏
@georgeerickson8177
@georgeerickson8177 2 жыл бұрын
K'ogot, This is good work. Of all the Luo people of Uganda compared to the Luo of Kenya, Kumam are the most difficult to understand. I'm from Kisumu, Kenya 🇰🇪.
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
Kumam got most of their language from Lango and also from Luo communities from Eastern Acholi e.g Puranga. But the majority of Kumam were of nilohamites origin who were subdued by Luo. They speak a language very similar to Lango. But are almost bilingual I.e 20%Teso +80%Luo
@cavineowaka6749
@cavineowaka6749 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 It seem a common historical trend among Luos. Even the Kenyan Luo assimilated the Abasuba (Bantus)
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@cavineowaka6749 even the Luo when they were moving to Kenya and Tanzania affected the Bantu tribes of busoga and Samia in uganda. The Samia bantu language is almost bilingual. It incorporated many Luo words and also part of their grammar was affected . The Luo established the royalty of busoga .
@cavineowaka6749
@cavineowaka6749 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 That's quite interesting
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@cavineowaka6749 yes the Lamogi dynasty ruled Busoga for many centuries there is enough evidence in a place called bulamogi in busoga and the people thereare aware of their origin
@justinojara9169
@justinojara9169 2 жыл бұрын
There is another luo you should try in abim far north boarders karamoja, called labwo
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Is that in Uganda still?
@justinojara9169
@justinojara9169 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 yes in uganda
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 labwor and nyakwai
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 labwor/Jabwor /Joabwor were a major part of Luo migration and dispersal
@elimugeorge1218
@elimugeorge1218 5 ай бұрын
They are called acholi labwo, located in abim district.
@geoffreyapenya551
@geoffreyapenya551 2 жыл бұрын
Hi KPtravels can you do the same with Luo of Mwanza. I mean the Luo of Tanzania! Godbless.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Mwanza only has wasukuma. I could do the Luo of Shirati but it’s no point because their luo is 100% to luo of Migori or Homabay, Kenya
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 2 жыл бұрын
May I add that.. "tol" (which is a "string/rope").. really comes from far, far back when there was still no paper money.. [cash] money [as it is now] was "gaggi" (cowrie shells).. which were stringed together (probably in 10s, 20s.. 50s.. 100s.. etc..) So "tol" was probably a "string" of 100 cowrie shells.. so "tol 1" then was for "mia 1" Just for information.. I speak both [leb] Acoli/Acholi and [leb] Lango with similar fluency.. Thank you again...
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this is deep history. I would like to agree with you but I have no knowledge to. So I’ll wait for @Odoch Okee to verify this information😂😂😂. He’s better with history
@AkelloNancyRuth-ii8jg
@AkelloNancyRuth-ii8jg Жыл бұрын
Wawoo dats great am so proud to be a luo blood thaxs for bringing up us on top🙏🙏🙏apwoyo twatwal.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome Akello. Kindly share my videos widely. I want more luos on board.
@wilfredelimu4506
@wilfredelimu4506 Жыл бұрын
The Kumam person used for this should have been from either Kalaki or Kaberamaido districts. The guy you used is from the Amolatar district. Their Kumam is shaky, which can be seen in his translations.
@michellekerching
@michellekerching 2 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful I'm so grateful for your efforts 👍🏿
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I try to give my best. I’m lucky to be able to do it. The most amazing part is being able to meat and talk to every single Lou dialect and/or tribe
@berocanronald3467
@berocanronald3467 Жыл бұрын
In Alur Zombo "DAK" referring to as Hundred
@orupiajohnpaul3849
@orupiajohnpaul3849 10 ай бұрын
Sorgum in kumam is "Kuon Bel" that "mer" doesn't occur in normal speech
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 10 ай бұрын
Is "Sorghum" not "bel"? "Kuon bel" sounds more like "sorghum ugali" well I know ugali is a Kenyan terminology but I'm sure you can relate.
@rachelgilbert3617
@rachelgilbert3617 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful series! Listening from Toronto, Canada ( I am from Ayiti)
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! I'm happy to be awakening the luos and giving them access to true knowledge about the luo people and their history. Don't forget to subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. I want as many luos as possible
@vowuor
@vowuor 2 жыл бұрын
On colors, Kenyan Luos can also say "tar" for white. "Laki tar ka chiewo", means your teeth are as white as fresh milk.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Though I think “tar” is a figurative language
@etapuivan9431
@etapuivan9431 2 жыл бұрын
true brother am a kumam proud one from uganda really am glad with our brothers around the globe
@etapuivan9431
@etapuivan9431 2 жыл бұрын
tar apply
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@@etapuivan9431 thank you. We're proud to have all Luo groups on one platform
@okellonjaramba6759
@okellonjaramba6759 2 жыл бұрын
Homabay Dholuo is not that Luo but the orthogragraphy is a challenge. Okello Nyakwar Jaramba Nairobi Kenya
@ojurgeorge3853
@ojurgeorge3853 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job👍🏿,,,What is the political setup of Luo of Uganda, Congo and S.Sudan
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you George for the compliment. Unfortunately, I don’t have so much knowledge of the political setup because I was focusing more on the linguistic connection but I did one video with an elder which I will upload soon
@ojurgeorge3853
@ojurgeorge3853 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 ...great work bt there's power when we come together ❤ 💪
@johnwalterekudu6054
@johnwalterekudu6054 8 ай бұрын
That Kumam guy is adding irrelevant word "bar"
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 7 ай бұрын
Oooh many people said this. But I went back to Kaberamaido and did more videos with the Kumam people.
@aom871
@aom871 2 жыл бұрын
Please come to The district of Abim, Karamoja Region, of Uganda,
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Which tribe is there?
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 labwor and luo speaking Nyakwai
@robertodundo2269
@robertodundo2269 2 жыл бұрын
Kumam is less intelligible to other Luo dialects but it is unmistakable Luo.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with you. Kumam sounds a little distant from the other Lou tribes/sub tribes
@kumamtv
@kumamtv 2 жыл бұрын
Opwoyo saana ominaa 🙏🙏 be blessed always
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I highly appreciate 🙂
@adudadan9143
@adudadan9143 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 can l translate what you has said in luo from Kenya " apwoyo sana/ahinya omin"
@anduamos2623
@anduamos2623 Жыл бұрын
wow, this is a good one because I often suspect Kuman to be nilo-hamites but assimilating slowly to their Luo kith and kins
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm currently trying to understand the assimilation allegations about Kumam
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to subscribe and share my videos with your friends and family. I need more luos here
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 2 жыл бұрын
By the way "kwon" (ugali) is apparently common to all the Luo languages/dialects.. to differentiate one simply has to add the name of the grain/root/fruit it [kwon] is made from..
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seemingly ugali is a key food to all of them and so is the name. it’s also amazing that they use similar grains, such as maize, cassava, millet, sorghum etc, to make flour
@aduwopbarack1050
@aduwopbarack1050 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 Actually ugali is a staple food in sub Saharan Africa from west Africa to South Africa. Actually throughout the black world of African descent. What's used to cook it is what is different. Among black Americans it's called"grit". Ghanaians, kenkey; South Africa, pap; the Kikuyu, ngima; the Swahili, sima also; Zimbabwe, saza or sima
@egabumoses7623
@egabumoses7623 Жыл бұрын
That guy is not fluent in kuman. His kumam has been affected by another language. Green is "lulum"
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Oooh that could be true. Are you a native Kumam speaker?
@panafrican.nation
@panafrican.nation 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Kikuyu but I'm very interested in the languages of Africa in general. Sounds like the Kumam say 10 just like the Turkana, Kalenjin and Maasai in Kenya. 10 is _Tomon/Taman_ in all these languages. 4 is almost the same across all these languages, including Luo. They all say something close to _Ang'wen_ . I have Maasai ancestry on my mother's side, from more than a century ago. As someone said, if we all did genetic testing, tribalism might end because we'd find that we're deeply related. What I'm trying to find out is whether there's _any_ relation between the Luo and languages spoken in West Africa, especially around the Senegambian, Guinea, Mali etc regions. The way their languages sound makes me believe there has to be _some_ really ancient relationship. They sound the way I imagine Turkana language sounds.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the deep insight. Sounds like you have good understanding and indeed interest in the African languages. I didn't know about the connection or rather closeness of Kumam to Maasai and kalenjin but now I do, thanks to people like you 🙏
@timothyomondi7115
@timothyomondi7115 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sure...it was more of Turkana,am glad you noted too
@zillafact
@zillafact 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, you really right....Kumam has a touch of Plain Nilotes in it a lot...If hear his sentence structure and accenting, I hear more of an Iteso/Karimajong flavor than Luo
@timothyomondi7115
@timothyomondi7115 2 жыл бұрын
I actually Lived in Turkana for sure and I know how they call 10
@vowuor
@vowuor 2 жыл бұрын
You are right about the number 4. Almost all nilotes say "angwen". Here is a helpful chart of Nilotic numerals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
@abuhamdan7673
@abuhamdan7673 2 жыл бұрын
Am really waiting for the south Sudan Luos especially shilluk, jor chul and nuer
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking into the logistics of getting to the south Sudanese Luos.
@aduwopbarack1050
@aduwopbarack1050 2 жыл бұрын
You'll be surprised by the Shilluk. Their Luo, if it may be called that, is out of this world. To me it's a language remotely akin to the Luo we know to be spoken in Uganda and Kenya.
@SLIVIAEMMANUEL
@SLIVIAEMMANUEL Жыл бұрын
Blue color in dhopadhola is manya bululu but green also remains green
@cavineowaka6749
@cavineowaka6749 2 жыл бұрын
The numbers 1 to 4 in Kumam are similar to Luo. The rest 5 to 10 are similar to language of plain nilotes, they are actually similar to Turkana. Their Number 10 (tomon) is similar to Turkana, Maasai and Kalenjin. Kumam language/dialect is none the less mutually intelligible with Luo
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
Yes kumam can converse with Acholi and lango to some extent
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks @cavine. I only noticed that number 5 going on sounded different but I didn’t realize that they are similar to the plain nilotes. Maybe Kumam is sitting on the fence between River-lake nilotes and the plain nilotes
@cavineowaka6749
@cavineowaka6749 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 Exactly. Like a blend of the two or a transition between the two
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@@cavineowaka6749 we would need a third party Kumam [person] to shed more light on this
@phoebynjacky3252
@phoebynjacky3252 2 жыл бұрын
Same also as teso
@L1-ght
@L1-ght 2 жыл бұрын
Is it midinga or mudunga
@aom871
@aom871 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be there for you to compare the Luo language.
@johnpauloluoch432
@johnpauloluoch432 2 жыл бұрын
Mwogo is borrowed from swahili in luo from Kenya cassava is called marieba
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
This could be true but someone claimed before that “marieba” is borrowed from Kisii😊
@acholiozzytv7025
@acholiozzytv7025 2 жыл бұрын
i cant wait to see comparison of Acholi Labwo
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Is it very different from the Acholi version that's already done?
@acholiozzytv7025
@acholiozzytv7025 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 yes they are different from Acholi, they have a mix of Acholi and Karimojong.
@godfreyabuya3973
@godfreyabuya3973 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the luos of Africa. The similarities and the closeness that we have. This make me want to travel and meet more of our people.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, travel far and wide and meet the luos
@graceyjaz1842
@graceyjaz1842 Жыл бұрын
I I really love this video,am also a kumam but I think he had gotten some words
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Could you point out on some words [if any] that you believe are not correct?
@simon5887
@simon5887 6 ай бұрын
The guy you interviewed is almost forgetting Kumam and being assimilate in Lango because he sounds more Langi than Kumam. For pure Kumam, get someone old from Kabarmaido, or Kalaki. Remove every ba at end of the word for now. My Wife = DAKO NA not Dako na ba. My son = ATIN NA not Atin na ba.
@andyolule1
@andyolule1 2 жыл бұрын
Kany in Kumam is borrowed from Teso. Kanyauni it 5+3 Uni is borrowed from Teso which is three.
@phoebynjacky3252
@phoebynjacky3252 2 жыл бұрын
True
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
How do you guys know all these😄🤔?
@oduorhezi8882
@oduorhezi8882 2 жыл бұрын
Very inspiring keep moving omin 🙏🤣
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
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@jacksonedau9127
@jacksonedau9127 Жыл бұрын
The person u interviewed doesn't know Kumam. So many errors in his translation.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Could you point out one of the errors?
@OjuluObang-t9k
@OjuluObang-t9k 7 ай бұрын
interesting to know about Kumam ....
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I never knew about them before too. I'll do more research on them
@L1-ght
@L1-ght 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir good work,next time try traditional dance.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha thanks so much. However, it's difficult to focus on everything at the same time. Now I'm focusing on the language and later on we can expand
@simon5887
@simon5887 6 ай бұрын
200 = tol are 2,000 = tutumia are Tutumia = a thousand Tol = hundred
@simon5887
@simon5887 6 ай бұрын
Kumam of kaberamaido say Kwon eweungo = Posho bread Kwon bel = sorghum bread Kwin kal = millet bread Kwon muongo = casaava bread
@Eymalex1831
@Eymalex1831 3 ай бұрын
Please visit Abim district in Uganda We speak like luo Kenya
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 3 ай бұрын
Is that the Thur people? Or Acholi Labwor?
@Eymalex1831
@Eymalex1831 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, it's Acholi Labwor/Ethur There's no difference but Ethur is just an internal nickname
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 3 ай бұрын
@@Eymalex1831 thank you for this clarification.
@crecencianyanga2606
@crecencianyanga2606 2 жыл бұрын
Ochiko can also be 'ongo achiel' in Dholuo ( Ugenya)
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's right
@tonybongomin6729
@tonybongomin6729 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping up with the good work bro
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much brother. A step at a time
@coyoluo
@coyoluo 2 жыл бұрын
Tol achiel is also Kenya Luo, I remember using it in the village.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Is it still in use now? Which village?
@zillafact
@zillafact 2 жыл бұрын
yeah you are right by the way...I too remember that same thing. the word "tol" kinda meant a complete unit, equated to 100. An JaMbita
@fredbabu5768
@fredbabu5768 Жыл бұрын
I can see the Kumam dialect sounds nearer to Kalenjins of Kenya. Highland Nilotes.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah because they are an assimilated luo group
@TheBwobo
@TheBwobo Жыл бұрын
Green is Alum alum in Acoli
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Ooh yeah, that's true
@babuo9778
@babuo9778 2 жыл бұрын
Ayagora kodi in Luo Kenya also means amosi
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm aware of this phrase. I'm just not sure if it cuts across
@caniceonuoha
@caniceonuoha 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly they are the same language. The similarities in sound and meaning of some words determines that. The true comparison would be with people who have long separated from the root of the word like the Luos of West Africa. That is where you will find far and fewer similarities but they will still be there for many words
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there are luos in west Africa
@achanflorah9092
@achanflorah9092 2 жыл бұрын
two thousand is "tutumiya are", "tutumiya tolare" is two hundred thousand... i think his kumam is a little different. we appreciate
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I can't really verify this info because I don't speak Kumam but you could be right 😀
@africanresource920
@africanresource920 2 жыл бұрын
Can you try Igbo of Nigeria,,I have a strong sense they are one of us
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
Evidence shows that the Igbo cluster is genetically closer to Niger-Congo-speaking peoples.The predominant Y-chromosmoal haplogroup is E1b1a1-M2
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@African Resource, I haven’t seen any info on this? Do you have more information apart from the mere suspicion ? If I get a concrete info linking them to luo then i’m definitely flying to Nigeria to interview them
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 igbo speak a different language
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 do not waste your time and money at this time maybe next time
@africanresource920
@africanresource920 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 their name system and meanings if the names are similar to those of luo
@olukmark
@olukmark Жыл бұрын
The Kumum speak a mixture of Lango and Ateso. Kumum and Lango are not ethnically Luos but part of the Ateker people that includes Itesots, Karamojong, Turkana.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Well, some people claimed so too in the comments. Could it be a case of assimilation? Being absorbed by the luo tribes?
@kassakwot4550
@kassakwot4550 2 жыл бұрын
Lou from Ethiopia, Anywaa green means maar, white, tar, black chol,
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds familiar 👌
@juliusepelu3440
@juliusepelu3440 2 жыл бұрын
color green is Lulum in kumam
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the only word for this or are there alternative vocabulary?
@juliusepelu3440
@juliusepelu3440 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 its the only one.
@genodaniel394
@genodaniel394 2 жыл бұрын
Kumam are originally not Luo, We are people of the "Atekerin" just like Langi, Teso, Karimojong, Turkana, Masai, Kakwa etc. Kumam and Lango lost their Atekerin dialect to the Luo. Despite the loss of dialect, we still hold similar clan names to other members of the ateker tribes.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh really? I think I'll come back to Lira to cover this bit of history
@SLIVIAEMMANUEL
@SLIVIAEMMANUEL Жыл бұрын
The numbers from 1 to 4 similar to Luo but from 5 to 10 are so similar to teso language again
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Because, Kumam were assimilated from the Ateker group (which these belongs to). Kumam were not originally luos.
@vowuor
@vowuor 2 жыл бұрын
Kumam numbers seem to borrow from eastern nilotes. For ten they say tomon, and Teso/Turkana/Lotuxo also say tomon. The same for Kany for five. Do they neighbor those communities? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_languages#Numerals
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Victor, is it "chieyo" or "chiew" ?
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if they border these communities but I felt Kumam was somehow linguistically distant from the other luo tribes
@vowuor
@vowuor 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 That was a typo. It should be "chiewo", in my version of Luo.
@vowuor
@vowuor 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, in Kalenjin it is "chego". That is one of the Nilotic words that is widely used within and without the Luo.
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 kumam incorporated large numbers of nilo hamites. But many nilohamite groups were linguistically influenced by Luo. The dialects spoken by Lango and Kumam came under considerable influence from Luo speaking communities from Eastern Acholi most notable Puranga etc ... It is said that the majority of Kumam previously spoke a nilohamites language. Also nilohamites groups in west of kotido district in Karamoja came under considerable linguistic influence of Luo speaking groups
@EngibuAndrew-jp5vd
@EngibuAndrew-jp5vd 4 ай бұрын
Thanx brother but the person you are interviewing lacks a bit of the language but tutumia are not tutumia tol are is 200000
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, other people said the same. And so I went to Kaberamaido and did other videos with the Kumam.
@ayoofortunate6284
@ayoofortunate6284 2 жыл бұрын
You need to do the with the luo in Abim district.they are called the thur
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of “Thur”. Are they a separate tribe or a dialect of the other luo tribes?
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 they are actually Labwor and nyakwai. They were part if the Luo migration. Their real name is not Thur. Thur was just introduced recently. The labwor Luo still maintains many of the conservative Luo language elements to a greater extent than all of the other Luo tribes of East Africa contrary to the assertion that they were affected by environmental factors
@lucyawili6698
@lucyawili6698 2 жыл бұрын
I think kuman may be closer to teso and some Highland nilotes like kalenjin,because of migration and assimilation of other languages
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, some people have mentioned Maasai, Teso and Turkana. I think I will need a separate video to explore this bit
@achilielizabeth7246
@achilielizabeth7246 Жыл бұрын
He didn't get it right when it comes to 2000 which is tutu mia aree and then 200,000 is tutu mia tol aree. Then where you said Amosi, a Kumam would say Amoti and one responds that agamo.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Kumam nyae?
@mybountifulbasketofwiseadvice
@mybountifulbasketofwiseadvice Жыл бұрын
He keeps adding ba
@LakeManStudio
@LakeManStudio 2 жыл бұрын
I love what you are doing
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I’m enjoying every step on the way😊
@PhoebeAlobo
@PhoebeAlobo Ай бұрын
Green is Lulum or Alulum
@otimpeter1090
@otimpeter1090 Жыл бұрын
Luo of Kenya count similar to acoli. Green that is alum and it's derived from grass color and cassava is Gwana in acoli.
@DavidMukuye-xm1qv
@DavidMukuye-xm1qv Жыл бұрын
Duuma(maize) and bando( posho) . These two seem to be similar with one bantu language in Uganda called Lusoga and the Luo of Kenya
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
There have been alot of word borrowings. And I think, the two mentioned words were borrowed from the bantu tribes.
@enangujude6591
@enangujude6591 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your program but that man is not a real kumam he's a amuteso
@iwutungimmaculate7371
@iwutungimmaculate7371 Жыл бұрын
lou of Kanye and lou Alur of Uganda, the way of calling thing is the Same, that meaning ask Alur i can come to Kanye and speak in luo ,without worry I know there can understand me now as an Alur❤😊
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
That's very much correct. I did the same thing in Pakwach
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion please.. If practically possible and convenient.. at least 2 people (an elder and a youth/younger person) should be interviewed.. elders have a better and deeper knowledge and understanding of a language [dialect].. Very much with omin.. Erokamano.. Apwoyo..
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try this with the Anyuak of Ethiopia
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 2 жыл бұрын
@@KPtravels001 Big thank you.. will be following very closely..
@michaelonyingeemaju6236
@michaelonyingeemaju6236 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This matter of picking youth only is not good. We need elders who know the real dialect
@ocengoyugi4578
@ocengoyugi4578 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelonyingeemaju6236 Thank plenty Onyinge Emaju.. Elders definitely know a native tongue/language a lot better than the youths.. An educated youth is likely to be a translator.. where an elder does not know.. or doesn't properly understands the English language.. Thank you.. stay well...
@sergeasaph2771
@sergeasaph2771 2 жыл бұрын
Daku para, chiega. Chwara, Waya I Can see just that adding ba. Ba in Alur (Congo) is like insisting. Kwen anyogi, kwen bel,kwen kal. 2000(elufu aryo)
@sonia-ti1bk
@sonia-ti1bk Жыл бұрын
Am proud kumam from kaberamido district ochero
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Apwoyo ba. I enjoyed my time in Kaberamaido
@oyugigeorge5535
@oyugigeorge5535 Жыл бұрын
Tutumia is thousands, Tol is hundreds. So 2000 (two thousand) is Tutumia tol are and then 200(two hundred) is tol are
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Why not “tutumia are”?
@edwinokello4690
@edwinokello4690 Жыл бұрын
Next let's learn about our music. Nyatiti,oruto,bull and tung.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a step at a time. Starting with the basics and then dividing deep
@mosesbulls8987
@mosesbulls8987 2 жыл бұрын
For sure u got person who grew in mixed tribe langi and some kumam
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
According to my experience a large percentage of Kumam people have learnt Lango Luo and communicate with other Luo speakers in northern uganda in Lango.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Moses, are you a Kumam?
@thankswelcome8374
@thankswelcome8374 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@okellowellborn6158
@okellowellborn6158 Жыл бұрын
Green color is Lulum in Lango
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification
@jerrydagreatsmusic36
@jerrydagreatsmusic36 Жыл бұрын
I guess this kumam representative isn't well informed with some of kumam vocabulary but thanks for effort made . Well informed kumam vocabulary are in hearts of kaberamaido a nd kalaki. thanks
@jerrydagreatsmusic36
@jerrydagreatsmusic36 Жыл бұрын
Tutumia are.2000
@jerrydagreatsmusic36
@jerrydagreatsmusic36 Жыл бұрын
Tutumia tol are is two hundred thousand and two thousand is tutumia are.
@kumamtv
@kumamtv 2 жыл бұрын
Well done..one love..am a kumam
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
OOh really? Your opinions on the accuracy of the words used in the video will be highly appreciated 😃
@arangajijowkokongo2789
@arangajijowkokongo2789 Жыл бұрын
I’m anywaa I’m Lou in Ethiopia and the language is almost the same
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Because we are one. Same family separated by distance. Kindly share my videos with your friends and family. I want many luos here
@okellonewton
@okellonewton Жыл бұрын
Jonam green colour is[alum]
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Jonam is almost 99% luo of Kenya
@jiengdaaropakuei5290
@jiengdaaropakuei5290 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kumam is a mixture of Luo and highland Like Toposa, Jiye, Otuho of South Sudan and Turkana, Kalenjin, Maasai plus Karimojong of Uganda etc
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
Kumam came into being as a result of the Luo migration. The Lango Dyang(nilohamites) were affected and lost their original language in favour of Luo. The Luo were not many but affected many as exemplified in other areas as well: The kalenjin and Bantu were also affected etc.. even Arabs were subdued as well as pseudo-Arab tribes in northern Sudan
@jiengdaaropakuei5290
@jiengdaaropakuei5290 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 oh okay I do not know that, I’m a South Sudanese but I quickly noticed how Kumam has highland Nilotic words when I heard words like ongon and tomon plus several other words.
@jiengdaaropakuei5290
@jiengdaaropakuei5290 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 I can relate the word Luo to Luop in our language which means to follow.
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@jiengdaaropakuei5290 Kumam were originally highland or plain nilotes (nilohamites)
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@jiengdaaropakuei5290 luop means follow in Acholi Luo
@maryachieng1665
@maryachieng1665 2 жыл бұрын
Our brother there, Ber Ber 💚💚
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Ber ahinya😄
@okumuokelo4494
@okumuokelo4494 2 жыл бұрын
Think we should use tol achiel or tara achiel for 100 instead of mia achiel
@cls4786
@cls4786 2 жыл бұрын
I think anyuak use dipar for 100. Inthink thats the original 100.
@okumuokelo4494
@okumuokelo4494 2 жыл бұрын
@@cls4786 I like that...apar dipar to mean 100
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
@@okumuokelo4494 well I agree with you. We’re slowly losing the language
@williamotieno7169
@williamotieno7169 2 жыл бұрын
Their numbers and those for masaai are somehow similar Aree 2 Ong'wan 4 Unii 3 Tomon 10
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Willis, someone said the same thing up in the comments. Thanks for pointing this out. I didn't know about the Maasai numbers
@Dennis_Okelo
@Dennis_Okelo 2 жыл бұрын
Coz they are close to Teso who are also related to Maasai's
@OBONGONYINGEMOSES
@OBONGONYINGEMOSES 9 ай бұрын
Green colour is called alulum
@marthaopiew9095
@marthaopiew9095 2 жыл бұрын
The numbers are the same as anyuak, and a a lot of words are similar. Lol, not me here correcting everything y’all said😂
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
That's great Martha. But I'll still have to come to Gambella and hear from them directly 😂
@topacogodfrey8084
@topacogodfrey8084 2 жыл бұрын
Green: Alumalum in Acholi. Blue: Dan Polo danpolo in Acholi Brown: Angom-angom
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Green is quite close to the luo of Kenya but Blue and Brown are completely different
@zolbunuji509
@zolbunuji509 Жыл бұрын
We call green omuar/maar,
@zolbunuji509
@zolbunuji509 Жыл бұрын
By shilluk language
@edwinokello4690
@edwinokello4690 Жыл бұрын
Kuon oduma or kuon bell
@olakjohnbosco3506
@olakjohnbosco3506 2 жыл бұрын
Kwon gwana(cassava)in acholi
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
That's slightly different from the version I'm accustomed to
@goldenangles
@goldenangles 2 жыл бұрын
Tomon is actually 10 in kalenjin...
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh now getting to know more than what I imagined
@PLACESNONDESCRIPT
@PLACESNONDESCRIPT 2 жыл бұрын
Iomunei?
@goldenangles
@goldenangles 2 жыл бұрын
@@PLACESNONDESCRIPT achomegi!
@raburu
@raburu Жыл бұрын
Kumam sounds like Luo with a Maasai / Kalenjin accent
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
Well, there’s a debate on whether Kumam are entirely luo or just assimilated like the luo Abasuba
@labalpinygeoffrey1528
@labalpinygeoffrey1528 2 жыл бұрын
Acholi ,white, tar, green,,alumlum, blue..,buluu,red kwa
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate with all that perfectly 😀
@odochokee9856
@odochokee9856 2 жыл бұрын
Blue is apii-apii in Acholi Luo. Red is kwar. I know it is difficult to spell words in Acholi but Kwar is the right spelling but the r is voiceless except when a vowel follows as a sentence. E.g kwar akwara I.e it is merely red
@labalpinygeoffrey1528
@labalpinygeoffrey1528 2 жыл бұрын
@@odochokee9856 apwoyo twatwal Ka gire tye kitmeno
@ojayowar1229
@ojayowar1229 2 жыл бұрын
Dha Anywaa Gambella, Ethiopia 1: aciel 11:apaar ka(ko) ciel 2.ariew. 20 piera arieo... 3.adak 100 dipa aciel 4.angween 5.abic 6.abiciel 7.abirio 8 abara 9:abingween 10:apaar
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 2 жыл бұрын
I will be coming to Gambella very soon. Anyuak/Anywaa are my next subtribe
@MorphiterMorphing
@MorphiterMorphing Жыл бұрын
20 is pier arieo( with a single a). It sounds like two a’s due to the pace.
@peterobiene6074
@peterobiene6074 Жыл бұрын
Nera means a brother to my mum.
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
True. The luo only considers mother's brothers as uncles
@KPtravels001
@KPtravels001 Жыл бұрын
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