Lusitania & Mauretania: Cunard's Revolutionary Liners

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Coal fired steamship Titanic

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[@lm7bird680]

That picture of Mauritania laid up next to Olympic is very powerful to me, it's two friendly rivals who were adored by their passengers, share the pain of losing a sister and had very successful careers and lived through war. However, due to the depression and circumstances out of their control, they bravely hold hands just once to face their ungraceful death

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@supernumery ...I never said speed

[@gregt8638]

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[@Discontinuedchannel1230]

Olympic kinda has it worse if you think about it, She lost BOTH her sisters

[@AndyHappyGuy]

*Fun fact:* The Carmania ( 3:11 ) had an interesting event happen to it during the war. Carmania had a run-in with the German ship, Cap Trafalgar during WWI. Both ships were converted military cruisers. What was interesting was that the Cap Trafalgar was disguised as the Carmania itself! Carmania immediately saw through the disguise of herself and the two ships battled. This was known as the Battle of Trindade. Campania managed to sink the Cap Trafalgar. There is even a picture of Cap Trafalgar burning in the video with Carmania in the background ( 10:48 ). This was a very Ironic story indeed.

[@Doyle-]

Are Both Were Armed Troop Ships Or Auxilary Cruiser?

[@AndyHappyGuy]

@@Doyle- all I know are they are both military cruisers.

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@@Doyle- Auxiliary Cruiser.

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[@spiroagnew3909]

A whole ass ocean and you run into the one ship you were disguised as lmao

[@SilverHedgehogX]

There's a Public Bar and Lounge in the city of Bristol (UK) called "The Mauretania" where most of the ship's original interiors and furnishings still exist today. I also don't know if its true or not but someone once told me that the letters from the Mauretania's bow were rescued from the scrapyard and are now used on the outside of the building.

[@cunard61]

Yes that's correct, the big brass letters from her name on the bow are indeed outside the Mauretania Pub.

[@kylepost4]

Adding this to my bucket list :)

[@trooperdgb9722]

@@kylepost4 Me too!

[@phillanassa759]

Me 3 !

[@jackthorton10]

She may be scrapped... but her legend ableist a bar ... lives on

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[@BluefireGames99]

Didn’t expect to see you here, but hello my Australian friend

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

Sir Arthur Henry Rostron is a legend.15:56

[@SymphonyBrahms]

The captain of the Carpathia, the ship that rescued the Titanic survivors.

[@Rebelheart1985]

He was one hell of a captain

[@judydenver5362]

The best, most intelligent, most honest and loving Captain, EVER!!! He adored the Ships, and their souls, their hearts.

[@WhiteArrow76]

Growing up I had a neighbor who actually had sailed on the Lusitania several times when he was a kid. His parents were from Sweden, and every 2-3 years they would take him and his siblings back to the old country to visit relatives for a couple of months. He told me he and his family sailed on Lusitania in Third Class four or five times before the war. He sailed on Mauretania once in the 20's, but she just wasn't the same.

[@1965vw]

19:08 Very sad to think that Olympic and Mauretania are about to be scrapped in this image. I know it made economic sense to do so at the time, but it still is so unfortunate because I fully agree with FDR that certain ships do possess a "soul." Perhaps no one realized what treasures they were or how so many people who never even got to experience them would still miss them so greatly even to this day. At that time most people probably considered them as just old, tired, outdated ships which had served admirably under the hands of legends like Captain Rostron and countless others, but whose time had come due to the never-ending march of modernity and technological advancement. A lesson to be learned from these legendary ships is that we never truly know what we have until their gone and no matter how advanced our technologies become, nothing can quite match the grandeur of these great steamships from this era.

[@ToreDL87]

Yeah. But trust me they were spent to the point it's a wonder they were even floating. Olympic was apparently so badly off that the bulkheads were rusted clean through.

[@jackthorton10]

As much as I pain to say it the truth is... everything has a limit...

[@adarsh4764]

Thats why Queen Mary in docked in Long beach California! Coz ships like these represents Iconic history to the newer generations! If they managed to do that with the Olympic and Mauretania then for not till today but for ateast till the 50s and 60s generations could have gotten the chance to see them in live!

[@3nzo.568]

Also sad knowing that both ships had sisters which had unfortunate ends while they both lived successful careers

[@MrGw1982]

Yeah

[@richardgonzalez6409]

i swear the ending of this video brought a tear to my eye.

[@albertdewulf7688]

More than a few tears for me. Strange how you can feel so strongly for just things.

[@_byzzer3228]

“Why did you slow down?” “Because I was being shaken off my bridge.” Kinda freaky.

[@iwheels88]

When I read about her on Wikipedia & her being scrapped, I actually cried. I understand times were tough but she could have been saved. It would be so neat to see what these ship looked like in person & compared to current cruise ships. And current cruise ships, the passengers aren't excited about the voyage, taking time to relax. It's rush here & there & do this & do that & don't appreciate the work that went into putting her together.

[@alexspareone3872]

Lovely doc. One thing you missed, the legacy. For decades the wood panelling of one of her saloons formed the interior of the Mauretania wine bar in British town of Bristol. The exterior had a large flashing neon picture of the ship. Not far away a glass cupola from the ship was installed in the ceiling of a shopping arcade which later became a large drinking hall in the Wetherspoons chain I dont suppose many people had any idea what was over their heads.

[@toonvandenbroeck1697]

2 years ago I was in Ierland with my parents and we visited the lusitania memorial and museum and it was incredible thank you for sharing the story of the lusitania I was with in a few kilometers of her grave and we also visited Queenstown (cobh) were the titanic picked up her last passengers on her maiden voyage that's was the only time I was so close to her

[@Comet5551]

Mauretania taking her own speed record reminds me of the Obama giving himself a medal meme format

[@heyitshuttz3705]

true

[@Lunarpollo5622]

😂

[@shelty3178]

Yea, lol

[@c.f.pedraza4057]

Mauretania deserved it though. Huge difference.

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Trump gave himself medals every day. Mostly for sleeping with porno stars.

[@malcolmbrown3532]

There had been "talk" that either the British or surprisingly Italian Governments buying not only Mauritania, but both Aquitania and Olympic as well. Using the trio as troopships, though nothing came of that idea/plan and they were all sadly scrapped. Though the Second World War saved Aquitania for the duration being chartered by the Canadian Government under contract as a Troopship. She lasted until 1950 having served the 5 years after the war transporting mainly Canadian Servicemen home. On her final withdrawal the Chairman of Cunard White Star Line remarked that it was pretty well the saddest day of his "business life" having condemned her and seeing her sail for the last time, to the scrapyard. Case of so near, yet, so far preservation wise for the last of the "classic" British 4 funnel liners.........

[@peteacher52]

Canadian government? Interesting then, that my NZ father was taken from Wellington to Egypt aboard the Aquitania along with hundreds of other troops, calling in to Melbourne on the way for more men. At war's end, same ship home again.

[@judydenver5362]

She served alot around Australia, I heard a Ship fan say, she carried his family to relocate to Melbourne, Australia.

[@rileyrourke7442]

I love these ships! I'm always looking for new facts on them. thanks for making this

[@pieguy6992]

I made my history project that I just finished today about the RMS Lusitania. I just want to say thank you so much for creating these high-quality videos, because this seriously helped me gather information about the Lusitania, its history, and its sinking. You're doing some really good work with this channel.

[@minecachair]

Despite an auction to dispose of Mauretania's fittings before scrapping,very little was actually sold,As a result,even the most humble home around Rosyth,her final destination,boasts beautiful oak panelling and ornate furnishings.Workers at the breakers yard were allowed free rein to take whatever they wished.Since liners such as Berengaria were also scrapped there,as well as the next Mauretania a mile away in Inverkeithing,there are hundreds of mini palaces in the area.

[@dennischallinor8497]

An excellent video I learned something new and reveled in a subject that holds no end of fascination for me. Thank you.

[@Shahrdad]

There was a department store in St. Louis called Famous-Barr (bought out by Macys), and in their West County branch, they had a restaurant called "The Mauretania Room." It had paneling from the ocean liner Mauretania. I had lunch there a few times. When the store was redone, the restaurant disappeared and I have no idea what happened to all the paneling.

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[@tedcragg1234]

3:10 No way I have this exact metal plate poster on my wall. Found it at a dollar store 18 years ago

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[@Tflexxx02]

One of the best KZbin videos I've come across on both ships. There was a lot of information here totally new to me. Thank you.

[@mimoslavija]

19:12 two legends go to eternal rest 😢😢😢😢😢☹️☹️☹️☹️🙁

[@notalemon2899]

Sorry to be rude but the timing of it was 1912, titanic vibes

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[@IgnitedDevs]

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[@heatherchandler724]

Same lol

[@flametitan100]

Excellent video. I never did think of Rostron's post Carpathia career, but it makes sense he'd have worked on the Mauretania as well.

[@TheGreatBigMove]

I might be doing a video on his entire career in the future. It's pretty interesting, I think.

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[@zeddeka]

It's striking how tall the funnels look on both ships in relation to the superstructure. Testament to how much the size of ships grew exponentially in just a few years after Lusitania and Mauretania, and made their funnels look more in proportion.

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[@zeddeka]

Great to see Turbinia there - those photos are of her in a museum in my home city, Newcastle. The museum also has some Mauretania memorabilia there too, including the "E" from the name on her bow

[@chriswardlow9441]

Great video,I have a real haunting photo of the R.M.S. Mauretania passing Flamborough Head on the East Coast of Yorkshire England on the 2nd of July 1935 on her way to Rosyth for scrapping.She was under the command of Captain A.T. Brown and he was her master for her final voyage only . When passing his home town of Scarborough at 10 am he paused for a while in the South Bay .When ships of this era went for scrapping they chopped both the forward & aft masts in half. Thank you for sharing.

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Very informative and excellent video! I didn't realise until watching this that Mauretania had a close call with a torpedo! I almost didn't exist!

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[@kingarthur4ever]

I felt that Lusitania was endeared more initially (prior to sinking) simply because she represented so much pride to Britain. Although estimates vary on the crowd sizes that watch her depart for America in 1907, they were huge (in an era without phones, tv, etc). The Germans had taken the Blue Riband a decade earlier and it was a gut punch for the British shipping industry. The Germans, how dare they! Lusitania was always slightly ahead of her sister's timeline, and therefore sailed 2 months earlier than Mauretania (who departed in cold November, rather than warm September as the Lusitania did). Lusitania's pending trip was in the newspapers worldwide, especially the USA. The excitement focused on her, especially in Britain, whose sense of national pride zoomed upward the moment that Lucy headed into the Atlantic. I think the variations in decor didn't matter as much. I'm about 50/50...sometimes I prefer Maury, and in other portions of the ships I prefer Lucy. They both were amazing wonders of technology (phones, elevators, 70,000HP turbines, etc) and set the bar pretty high for future trans-Atlantic travel.

[@CJODell12]

Lusitania and Mauretania carried nearly half a million combined passengers by December 1914. Lusitania was the most popular ship in 1908, 1909, 1911 and 1914. Mauretania was the most popular ship in 1910, 1912 and 1913. From September 1907 to December 1914, Lusitania made 194 crossings and carried a total of 240,959 passengers, for an average of 1,242 passengers per crossing. From November 1907 to December 1914, Mauretania made 191 crossings and carried a total of 247,971 passengers, for an average of 1,298 passengers per crossing. Lusitania’s best year was 1911, when she carried 41,500 passengers over 32 crossings, averaging 1,297 passengers per crossing. Mauretania’s best year was 1913, when she carried 44,245 passengers over 30 crossings, averaging 1,475 passengers per crossing. In total, the two carried a combined total of 488,930 passengers over a combined 385 crossings, averaging 1,270 passengers per crossing.

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Another excellent video!!

[@TheGreatBigMove]

Thanks, Randy!

[@curious5661]

That picture of Mauritania and Olympic waiting to be scrapped..... they should have preserved both ships.

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Firstly, was just watching Titanic’s videos then Olympic Britannic and now i’m a new subscriber to this channel being fully fascinated with this ships i never even heard before. Just wow! 🤍 keep it coming

[@xxthexcaliburxx]

Isn't it weird that we can experience grief and sadness over machines that ceased to exist almost 100 years ago? The era of ocean-liners was definitely one of the most interesting and intriguing eras in the history of human travel. These ships were so beautiful and compared to modern cruise-liners and had a certain uniqueness and style to them that you simply don't experience on modern-day cruise-ships. I wonder if and when cruises become a thing of the past we'll look back at these ships the same way we look at ocean-liners now or if they'll forever be remembered as floating-hotel-cities

[@connorpusey5912]

If cruising does die off, I’m sure we’ll look at the ships the same way. And probably in an even more pronounced way. Hindsight is 20/20. I’m sure we will be fond of them and what they offered to us, but definitely their floating condominium/resort nature will stand out as a novelty, maybe even seem ridiculous to some but in an endearing way.

[@jackthorton10]

They are floating cities on the gleam of the ocean

[@SimplyTakuma]

When the "Turbinia" reminds me of the ship from Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro

[@thetitansofbrahma6702]

My two favourite Ocean Liners.

[@jamesbugbee6812]

Me too; Lucy's leaner look offset by Mauretania's greater success

[@Major_Bomber187]

The fact that this man goes so far depth to mention Turbinia and Victoria is awesome, this is why I love this channel This is different, but please correct me if I'm wrong, but is Mauritania, Aquaitania, and Berengaria the only Curnard line three ship express?

[@thejagotishow]

No, in the 1880s Cunard also had the Umbria, Etruria and Oregon on the Liverpool to New York express service

[@richatom71]

Another great episode .

[@GarfieldRex]

Loved this video 👌 . Also need one about Aquitania

[@TheGreatBigMove]

My very first video is on Aquitania

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[@xp_exp]

Great video I've been waiting for this for a while!

[@motorTranz]

Excellent content! Many thanks.

[@sethsimmons5845]

Arthur Rostron was Captain of the RMS Carpathia when she rescued the survivors of the RMS Titanic that fateful night.

[@onenl.1]

I Really love this channel, This is very informative 👍

[@sarmientoenricomiguelv.562]

As much as I love The Olympic and Imperator Class Liners These two greyhounds are certainly not far behind for me.

[@miscellaneoussarnian5282]

12:23 yes, the same New York that almost ran-down the Titanic

[@plusplusplusplusp]

Lusitania was definitely the prettier of the two vessels. Not only did those hinge-top vents make a much cleaner deck, her bridge area had a sleeker and better-proportioned look. The airier interiors were more beautiful as well.

[@TheGreatBigMove]

I'd have to agree. I much prefer Lusitania.

[@FoxStarLine]

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[@TheGreatBigMove]

Thank you!

[@steamerbv]

Two other technical requirements from the Royal Navy included battleship quality hull plating (plating was selected to gun fire to select the most robust steel plating). Also, the rudder and steering gear had to be invulnerable to gun fire. Notice their rudders are completely underwater. Contrast to Olympic class lens whose rudder stem extended well above the waterline leading to the ship's fantail - that would be able to be shot away taking away steering. These were required to obtain the funding being offered at the time.

[@TheGreatBigMove]

Good additional information, thank you.

[@oscillation9814]

Sorry it took me so long to watch this! (I must admit, I’ve never been too good with long videos!) This was a brilliant video! 🥰 There was so much I didn’t know about this class(Mauretania and Lusitania having vibration in opposite areas to eachother and Mauretania not requiring as much modification for that as her sister, as well as the stern shapes for example!) in this video as well as history! I think I’ll be coming back to this video again, for reference or just for fun! 🥰

[@DerpyPossum]

i recently started reading “Dead Wake” by Erik Larson and its *outstanding!*

[@kylej741]

6 degrees of separation; my G-Grandmother’s sister sailed from Denmark to America on the Lusitania in 1910 where her husband died in route at Liverpool. He was taken back to Denmark for burial, she continued onto America.

[@rstockdale2885]

0:33 epic oceanic picture

[@tedcragg1234]

Yes! Where do you get the amazing images? Colourised even!

[@matthewlandon85]

Nicely presented. Made my morning, haha.

[@TheGreatBigMove]

Thanks, Matt! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@zeddeka]

It's amazing how much ships advanced in that short period due to the "arms race" in the liner trade. The lusitania and Mauretania having perhaps more in common with the Kaiser class than the Imperator class just a few years later.

[@NOrlando952]

It breaks my heart that these ships were scrapped. I would love to tour these liners like the QM. That FDR quote brought tears to my eyes.

[@judydenver5362]

yes it did, me too. I am going to put that on my wall, with my Ship Collections!!!

[@johnmiller4973]

The 1907 MAURETANIA is still the fourth largest ship ever built in England. The 1939 MAURETANIA(35,738 tons Merseyside) the WINDSOR CASTLE (37,640 tons Merseyside) and ORIANA (41,915 tons Barrow) were larger then the MAURETANIA of 1907

[@GregoryLancaster-rf7ce]

I saw the Windsor Castle being launched at Birkenhead

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

Mauretania is one of my favourite Ocean liners, She wasn't just a ship She was God's ship.

[@kellykimble665]

Most prefer Lusitania over Mauretania, but I prefer the latter. Her unique bridge and durability shows how special she was.

[@markgoudsblom]

Thanks so much for what you do!! Enjoyed every second of it!!

[@afoxwithahat7846]

Mauretania, the ship way less luxurious than the Titanic, but at least she didn't sink in few days.

[@mr.juniii5523]

Its like 1 times less luxurious but faster than the olympic class in a speed of 26 knots

[@onenl.1]

But we have RMS Olympic

[@theginganinjaa97]

Amazing vid as always! Would you consider doing a video on the Morro Castle?

[@TheGreatBigMove]

Yes!

[@joker432]

Love the videos!

[@lakrids-pibe]

The sinking of Lusitania is probably more important than Titanic, but it's the later we make movies about, and Lusitania is largely forgotten.

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@@rmstitanicboi7347 When I first saw this channel he was like at 75.

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I joined when he had 34

[@BrydenVale]

Saw it, got excited,realised it's still a good hour and a bit away. Still gonna wait 🤣

[@christophermaccool8029]

were the hallways outside the cabins on the Lusitania really that small?

[@caelidhg6261]

My Great Aunt Millie was a nurse in WW1 and she sailed back from France in 1919 on the Mauretania... .I was so excited to find out that piece of information. I actually saw the roster. I know very little of my Aunts time over there except for some photos but finding that she sailed back on this ship is really cool.!

[@goodday9760]

15:15 hey look its olympic :D

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Superb!

[@NickD7986-w5s]

quick question, on Mauretania, why did the bridge window arrangement turn from like the same as lusi to like 4 rectangular windows and a few small portholes? That always confuses me

[@Dallas_K]

I believe you are referring to deadlights. These are like shutters over the windows with portholes in the center. The purpose was protection in stormy weather and to aid in blacking out the ship during wartime maneuvers.

[@Stephen0Stevie0]

It's truly sad that thes amazing giant ships were scrapped . If they only knew that 70-100 years later these ships would be so popular as tourist/ historic hotels many would still be in use.

[@derekquintal]

Well done!

[@JuanGarcia-vb3du]

Beautiful looking sisters. Was a crime that Mauretania (along with Olympic) was scrapped. They should have been saved.

[@xThatxGuy]

Ikr