CLOVIS by Triplepoint Outdoors: Broadhead Test

This is a test of the 100 gr CLOVIS Mechanical broadhead, by Triplepoint Outdoors.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Clovis posted in parentheses as well.
Total Clovis Score: 85.6 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 20 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 10 (20 on 20 pt scale) & the max score of a Fixed is 8 (16 on 20 pt scale).
2. Cut Size (20%, 16.84 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6”+.55”/2.5 X7 = 6.02 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6” +.55” /2.5” X7 = 6.02 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.6"/2 x 6 = 4.8 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.7 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 300 grams=9/10=8.1 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +0 grams=10/10=9 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (8/10=1.6 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 14.67 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8" = 8 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(51 layers=6.56 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 12.5 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 after each shot & weighted to 12% of the score. (10/10 = 12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (1/10=.5 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (NA=0 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: Heads will be rewarded bonus points for special, intangible features such as: rotation, no O rings/clips for mechs, extra thickness, hole size, other unique designs, etc.
+1 no O rings, +1 practice lock, +1 pivoting blades, +1 modularity
-2 blades tendency to close, especially when pivoting -1 blades closed throughout gel Penetration Test 1
Total Bonus= +1 pt
TOTAL Score Clovis: 85.6= 9 Golden Arrows
Price of Clovis 100 gr: $25/head
Grading Scale:
90-100 10 Golden Arrows
85-90 9
80-85 8
70-80 7
60-70 6
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[@keystonestatebowmen3128]

Really liked the looks of this head but definitely left a lot to be desired through your testing. Great review as always John!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. There were some unique strengths and some concerns...but overall it scored pretty well.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

All of our testing has been very extensive, and the Clovis performs extremely high in ALL testing that we've done. We just ran it through 18gauge steel as John did and the head was perfectly fine minus a very small tip curl and the cutting blades were perfect!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

All of the videos, slow motion shots, pics, etc. of the steel test are on our Facebook page for viewing!

[@keystonestatebowmen3128]

@@triplepointoutdoors send me a pack and I’ll give them a whirl. Was just concerning seeing the blades sear off in Johns test. Watched your tests as you said and it definitely seems to be a good quality head with many unique features. I’ll definitely be getting a pack or 2 of the Clovis to try out and run this upcoming season!

[@dekutslive]

Thanks for the videos!!! 🏹 Good luck this season 🎥 🏆

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you! Same to you.

[@NpisVwjNeejYias]

thanks for reviewing all these mechanical broadheads. I know which one I'll be using for this fall.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Thanks a lot for viewing it! We just sent it through 18gauge steel without an issue at all! Perfect condition!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you

[@nathanlester5054]

Nice design with some great features. Looks like you were correct in your assumptions prior to the testing. I agree with you in that locking blades would definitely help the performance and going to a blade design with more mass will help .

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Nathan.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades and tip are .039" 420 ss

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Ballistics gel doesn't represent tissue and flesh well at all because it's meant to impede motion. Using a Ravin crossbow sending the Clovis show what happens when it truly hits an animal, massive entrance/exit and helical cut through the animal as evidenced by all of the big game we've taken with it! All have had perfect pass throughs!

[@nathanlester5054]

@@triplepointoutdoors I believe adding more width to the blade would help; not adding gauge thickness. The blades are plenty thick as they have been designed. I am not bashing your head, just offering suggestions to improve them. I really like the design concept but broken blades in an animal cause no danage.

[@TheSpeyfisher]

Thanks John! I see your concern. They should have come up with a locking of the blades!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, that would help a lot.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Locking of the blades is a plus and minus. When you lock them, you get possible deflection and excess drag on bone. All heads take moving through a medium to deploy, it's just that with gel, it stops the arrow so quickly that it can never represent flesh and tissue. We proved that with our Ravin sending it through gel and it deploys and cuts a perfect helical path! All of our data, pics and video are on our Facebook page!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We were interested in the steel impact so we tested today in the shop. Shot a Clovis through 18gauge steel, perfect hole, leading tip was perfect except maybe a slight tip curl, cutting blades were perfect. On a rear deploy gator style head, as well as one that locks, or a slip cam head, forward motion is what deploys the cutting blades. We've had complete pass through on every animal taken, and with phenomenal entrance and exit holes. Heads that lock can cause deflection, excess drag on bone, or have the tip setback too close to the wing blades, causing deflection. The ClovisTM simply performs, and all data and slow motion videos are on our Facebook page and social media! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Absolutely! Thanks for testing our Clovis; we just don't see any of the steel results that you did!

[@trob205]

But Lusk’s did break, so saying the one head you shot didn’t break doesn’t nullify his test. His was also proved with video evidence. Also when you guys say you got full pass throughs with full entrance and exit holes, does that mean the extra penetration was cause by the blade being closed through the soft media and the opposite side reopening the blades? Looks like a very intriguing design and wonder if there’s a slight flaw in the head that keeps the closed in the soft media or if John’s test is has an oddity that creates this result.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@trob205 From our data, ballistics gel DOES NOT respond like animal tissue. To date, 100% of game taken with the Clovis has had huge entrance/exit holes with hearts cut in half. The issue is the speed of bow that he is using. Every rear deploy gator style head, and there are many on the market, responds the same way in gel..but not in animals because tissue in animals doesn't self seal behind the head. That's the issue, he needs to shoot them all out of a high speed crossbow to parallel the effect in an animal! With regard to breaking, I'm going to attribute it to all the tests he did before the steel weakening the blades, because we never got one to break at all last night....he should have 2 more new heads though so he can go straight to the steel and see!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@trob205 What we've talked with him about is that the gel doesn't parallel real animal tissue unless shot with a crossbow with sufficient speed to show that, and that's what we've found with our real world testing. Full pass through, full expansion, and full 2" entrance and exit cuts blowing through game; all of which is available on our Facebook page in vids and pics!

[@razorrebel]

Love your videos, John. Any plans to test the new Slick Trick Torch? I’m very intrigued by it.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. I reached out to Slick Trick and they said they'd send me some to test.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We also want to thank Mr.John Lusk for the review! Unbelievable accuracy, great sharpness, heavy and robust construction, great penetration, great cut path when shot with an appropriate bow into gel, and durability! We appreciate the challenge and would do it at any point with our Clovis!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you for the comment.

[@littlewoody5539]

Nice looking head .

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching.

[@leonardcavaretta905]

Hope you can test the Crimson Talon Battle Axe soon. Really looks like a great head.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I've tested it already, earlier this year. Just search on KZbin: LUSK CRIMSON TALON and it will come up.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We would love to re-test our head with John being present because we are not finding ANY damage at all in pass through of the 18gauge steel! The tip is fine, and cutting blades are in perfect shape; so something was odd with his test. We will put the Clovis up against any mechanical or fixed blade, as evidenced by our big game animals taken with it! Complete pass throughs!

[@rutnut3659]

I think that would be fair. And for what it’s worth, points to you all for defending your head!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@rutnut3659 Appreciated, we're science and data driven only...and every test we've done, the biggest being on actual large game animals; have shown absolutely exceptional performance, and we wouldn't have anything less! Bring it on!

[@rutnut3659]

@@triplepointoutdoors - can’t wait for the Lusk / TriplePoint Outdoors battle Royale! Good stuff!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@rutnut3659 Absolutely love it! We're ready and willing! Sending it since 2022!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@rutnut3659 We appreciate that, we're science and data driven. Ballistic gel just doesn't react like animal tissue unless you use a high speed crossbow because it impedes the arrows too much; but with a speedy bow...you see results like we do in big game animals!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We just rolled out completely solid cutting blades for the Clovis, all media is available on our Facebook page!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Good to hear! Thank you for sharing that.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thanks!

[@jolookstothestars6358]

Hey John it looks like after the cardboard penetration test that one of the blade tips broke off. Could just be a weird angle like the ballistics gel when you measure.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I didn't notice a tip breaking off. With Penetration Test 1, the camera lens on my phone sometimes makes it not line up well with the positioning of the broadhead and the measuring tape. But the measurement I report is accurate. Oh and also, it’s common for heads to kind of bounce backwards due to the elasticity of the gel. If you look closely you can see the cut in the gel extends much further than the final resting point of the head.

[@yourmomma2995]

i thought the same thing.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

1.The ClovisTM doesn't have tabs that hang out of the ferrule to drag in air, our blades are fully hidden inside the ferrule 2.Our leading tip is much further out in front of the wing blades so that a cut is secured before wing blade deployment,in other heads like Sevr the tip is too close to the wings and could...could...cause deflection in angled shots 3.Our single bevel sharpening allows a much stronger, and sharp, edge while inducing rotation to greatly increase penetration and tissue cut 4.Our tip and blades are cut from .039" 420ss which is thicker than most any mechanical 5.The ClovisTM can pivot around bone and the blades will open right back up because there is always pressure on the wing blade stubs to do so 6.Our 7075 ferrule is as strong as titanium in material spec 7.We get instantaneous deployment upon impact 8.The EarthTecTM system holds the cutting blades securely and perfectly closed at the shot and in flight for the most precise short and long range shots compared to any head 9.Our rear ferrule shoulder increases the back of the ferrule by 10% to greatly increase penetration by not allowing tissue to drag on the arrow shaft 10.The rear design also employs the Magnus effect of airflow around the broadhead to self center in flight 11.EVERY big game animal shot with the Clovis has had huge entry/exit holes with hearts cut in half 12.Every game animal shot with the Clovis has expired quickly with large blood loss and recovery 13.Our modular tip system allows hunters to pursue multiple game species by changing the tip for different types of performance 14.We are very proud of our ClovisTM design and can't wait for everyone to watch us perform this fall, and we appreciate all of the huge interest in the head and the design...it came from a love of the sport and huge passion for bow hunting! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

thanks for the comment.

[@justinjones2882]

Well they tried some different stuff and that's cool, I would think a single bevel w light blades would shear them off in the mdf I was surprised they held up. I wish it had opened on the gel to see how much rotation it actually getting. Thanks for the test it was an interesting one.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Justin.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We are getting about 90degrees of rotation out of the normal Clovis, the Helicut gets much more rotation at around 120degrees, but the faster the bow, the more rotational energy! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@justinjones2882]

@@triplepointoutdoors that's really incredible, very cool head.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@justinjones2882 We appreciate that, we've put a lot of time and effort into making the Clovis the very best that we can and hope that everyone chooses a broadhead that fits their hunting needs! You're welcome to check out our ballistics gel tests and videos on our Facebook page! I'll get more tomorrow for everyone, including a slow motion shot through the gel from above to show the helical cut path.

[@DIRTISTERRIBLE]

I really like how the blades close after impact. It gives it Superior penetration. Can wait to put it through a buck of a lifetime.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades don't close if you shoot it in to ballistics gel with a proper bow with enough speed as it would be hitting an animal! We've shown that! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@DIRTISTERRIBLE]

@@triplepointoutdoors you should send lusk another pack and have him retest them bub. What we all witness was horrifying.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@DIRTISTERRIBLE I like that idea, he should have at least 2 more new ones to try, maybe he can add something to the 18gauge part? Also, I don't think it was horrifying since most mechanicals at least bend in mdf and ours did not, and almost all fail to some degree through the 18gauge steel; our head holds up super well to get a 9/10 review!

[@DIRTISTERRIBLE]

@@triplepointoutdoors it did hold up. I think it was more of the blades closing after impact that was worrying. I rarely reuse broad heads anyway so I don't worry about bent blades that much.

[@FDRGREG]

When you find a better mechanical than a Sevr Robusto or any Sevr, I will consider switching. This doesn’t look like the one though to me. Thanks though for keeping us informed on what’s in the market right now.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Sevr's tip to me, is way to close to the wing blades causing potential deflection; that being said...they're still a great company!

[@FDRGREG]

This is my first year shooting them and have not killed anything yet with Sevr. Will keep you in mind and best of luck with your business and broadheads!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@FDRGREG Good luck and enjoy your hunt! They're a great broadhead that we respect!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the comment.

[@davidcarrow4038]

Thanks for another great test, just an observation of mine but why does it seem like your arrows are flying sideways? I understand you maybe off to the side when you shoot but when the arrows hit the target they are pointing away from where the shot came from. You sure that your bow is in tune, I just don't get it. Anyways keep em coming I appreciate your videos.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

With those heavy arrows on the MDF, there is a bit of a kick to the left...and the camera angle accentuates it quite a bit. If I moved the camera, it wouldn't look that extreme.

[@justinjoynt863]

Quality broadheads I use them on bushpigs and it all I'll be using in the future God willing

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Nice

[@rutnut3659]

Interesting head. Too many variables for me. I don’t like the closing up after initial impacts. Great flight @30yards. I thought that screw might fail but it held.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the comment.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We actually eliminated so many variables with the Clovis. Perfect centric flight, perfectly held and secure cutting blades with no other mechanical device, massive impact energy. It's all there! Every game animal has had huge entrance and exit holes that you will never see with a slower compound vs gel...you have to use a higher speed crossbow with gel to see it, but on game animals ANY bow will produce results! Thanks!

[@LeadDispenser45]

Have you seen the Deathswitch expandable by Valkerie all steel .. very high end they arent cheap. I would be curious to how they hold up on your test

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, it's the same head as the Jekyll & Hyde, only all steel. I've tested it.

[@phobiarg]

The weird grind on bevels caused that thing to kick off to the side on every impact. That is going to cause a lot of drag on the shaft and hurt penetration. Part of me wonders if they accidentally ground a batch the tips wrong and are now marketing them as a feature. On a side note it may be worth factoring the price per head and "reusability" in the final tally.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I always include the price of a single head in the Vid Description. But I've decided not to add that in as a score, per se, cause everyone's budget is so different.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The grind actually is great because it keeps the edge very sharp, but also very strong. The original Clovis is great for normal compound bows, slower crossbows, etc. because of the impact CUT. The Helicut is our true single bevel grind on opposing sides to give it more helical motion through an animal, along with a severely sharp chisel-type tip to blast through the toughest animals on the planet! Thanks!

[@gavinsmitty23]

Have you tested the new g5 deadmeat v2 head yet? They look like an improvement since the original deadmeat.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I've not. I'd like to though, if someone sends me a pack.

[@patricklalor4299]

I was excited initially with the design of the single bevel head. I thought it might have the advantage of single bevel with the Sevr pivoting blades. The excitement was fleeting when it was revealed the blades don’t lock in open. It caused enough concern I will not shoot a game animal with this head. Close but no cigar.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Appreciate your thoughts, but heads that have blades that lock can cause severe deflection and excess drag going through an animal. Every big game animal taken with the Clovis has had a complete pass through with massive entrance and exit wounds; thanks!

[@patricklalor4299]

@@triplepointoutdoors No disrespect to TriplePoint intended, I’m an avid bow hunter but not an engineer . My concern was from the video I watched. If I have any doubt I will not use a broadhead I have concerns with on a live animal. I have no doubt it will kill . I did look on your website and did not see any video or other information that would have lessened my concern. I look forward to seeing more information that might change my opinion.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@patricklalor4299 Thanks for your interest and we respect the aim to use the most effective broadhead on animals possible! Yes!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

It's not uncommon for gator style heads to have problems opening or staying open in test mediums...but then do very well on game.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@patricklalor4299 We have actual game animals taken, with 100% kill percentage to date, if you look at our Facebook pics and vids

[@triplepointoutdoors]

With regard to the gel test, which I'll address today with all of our tests, data, vids and pics....as well as big game kills. @frank browning I'm going to explain that today on our Facebook page and why everyone who tests gator style heads in gel gets it wrong. The Clovis, like any style rear deploy, deploys beautifully and cuts to a full width when going through animal tissue as evidenced by our hog, deer, ram, and antelope kills. The problem with gel is that it's intended to greatly impede and stop bullets and arrows. It self seals, and wraps around the shaft to drag and stop arrows way faster than in game. I've tested the ClovisTM in gel with my Mathews compound and the ravin crossbow. The problem Mr.Lusk had is that he used a compound. All broadheads stop at around 6-8in and don't have the energy like they do going through animals to see the cut path. You can,however, see the true deploy with a bow with sufficient speed like a ravin or other higher speed crossbow. I have gel tests we've done on our Facebook page...and ill do more today in order to explain, how in gel you really need that speed to do a correct test. When I did it my mathews shows around 8" of penetration, more than any mechanical, but with the ravin it truly shows what it does through an animal. The ClovisTM blows through the entire gel block sticking 2" out the back side and fully deploys through the gel with a 2" cut and it's helical. John needs to use a crossbow for those tests because he's not showing what truly happens in animal tissue...which is VERY different than gel! All of our big game kills have been 100% deployments with huge entrance and exit holes as you would expect. All of the tests done on gel should be using a bow with sufficient speed to show the true cut path, because mechanical or fixed, he's getting that part wrong respectfully! I'll be going over the physics of this today on our Facebook page and we have all of the data and video to explain this important point. The head will pivot around bone because when one blade folds in, the wing butt of the other side is fully out, and under extreme pressure wanting to always fling back open...John didn't realize this point of how the pivoting action works, so I'll explain the physics today with data and results! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@masterski03]

Please tell me you are planning on testing the slick trick torch mechanical broadhead lol ?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep. It's been ordered for a while now.

[@BacklashTV-gu3rc]

Very interested in it... till the typical expandable problems.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@ShaneSimpsonHunting]

This head should have scored a 5 just for the magnetic closures but 0 on everything else. You mentioned that the bevel on opposite sides would cause rotation but on the same side would go straight. Wouldn't it steer (deflect) it in one direction instead? Seemed like a lot of deflection in the targets.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Not at all, the cutting blades cause helical rotation on the original tip, where as the HelicutTM gets more rotation from the true single bevel on both. We've had nothing but great performance! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

When you say it should have scored a “5”-what are you talking about? And why would it get a 0 for flight…sharpness, etc? I score each head on a 100 pt scale. 20 pts for Flight; 20 for Sharpness; 20 for Penetration, 20 for Cut Size and 20 for Durability. Then it is given a corresponding Golden Arrow rating proportional to the cumulative score. There is no way I can just give it a “5”. It’s flight, edge retention, cut size, penetration, durability, all gave it the score it received. It was docked 3 pts total for my concerns about the blades potentially closing prematurely. That’s fair and consistent with my other tests. It earned the score it received. It doesn’t mean there are not concerns; I’ve well noted them. But those concerns do not negate its strengths.

[@ShaneSimpsonHunting]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures I appreciate the testing videos, they're very informative but maybe you should add an "F" category. Imo, when the wound channel is not much bigger than a field point because the blades fold in after impact, that's a big failure. The fact that the blades broke into pieces is another big failure. This head deserves an F and should not even be considered as an option for hunting.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

@@ShaneSimpsonHunting Well, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@allannesss7782]

the old ulmer egde. problem is ... if a blade breaks off it turns into a field point.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

With these that's correct, cause the magnet will close the other blade. But with the Sevr (the improved Ulmer Edge) that can almost never happen cause the blades pivot on a hard impact or they overlap in the back to absorb energy if both blades have a hard impact. No broadhead has held up to the durability tests like the Sevr for that reason.

[@charliebeaver6771]

So what are the single holes in the wing blades for?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

They're for the set screws to go in to keep the blades closed in practice. And another set of holes is to give less weight to that portion so the blades close properly.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Actually the single holes in the wing blade are a design feature to make sure that there is ALWAYS more mass of metal on the cutting blade side, so at any bow speed, the natural position for the cutting blades is to stay against the magnet, with the magnet securing them perfectly until impact! It's a design for a reason!

[@joelaskey2121]

Hey John can you by any chance move your camera slowly to the angles that show 8”? From that angle it looked a lot less. Looked like the edge of the Gell was aligned before 2” on the Stanley tape. Please don’t think I’m being critic,I trust your vid’s and have gotten success with my choices from your reviews. Which I thank you. But last couple videos I’m having trouble. Thank you John Lusk for all you do! “J.Lusk dead by dusk” You need to invent your own Broadhead bro. With your knowledge about them,If you make one ?…I’ll never look back! #injohnluskwetrust

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Joe. The challenge is the positioning of the camera lens (iPhone) and the tape and arrow...depending on how close it is to the camera. But most of the difference with this one is that often times broadheads penetrate to a certain point then the gel forces them back a bit, as it can be kind of elastic. So I measure all the way to where the tip penetrated, not just its final resting point. If you look closely, you can see the cut extending about an inch or inch and a quarter further than the broadhead's final position.

[@Chad.Maness]

John my friend…. I’m surprised this scored so high. I honestly feel like this head is way too inconsistent and is more than likely going to fail. It’s unethical to use a head like this on an animal. They need to pull these from the shelves until they can figure out how to get the blades to lock open. The magnet is cool and the tip & blade thickness are all positives, but the blades closing is a major fail. 👎🏻

[@bennypapino3670]

I wish they'd pull every mechanical from the shelves

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the comment Chad. I share that same concern...but I have to be consistent in my testing and let the scores speak for themselves. I subtracted a couple points just due to the possibility of the blades closing, as I wrote in the Vid Description. But it still scored well due to its other strengths.

[@paytenblevins3401]

They need to pull grim reapers off the shelf for sure then too

[@Chad.Maness]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures I totally get it! At first I was thinking this head had some real potential! (I don’t shoot mechanicals but…) Then the magnets, although a great concept, ultimately became a major flaw bc the blades don’t lock open. If they would just fix that, this head would be legit. As always I appreciate you and I look forward to every video you post! 🐐

[@wolvesnight]

So many companies have copied the original R.M. Gators. Now those were the real deal.. personally these heads here no thanx

[@robertculpepper1508]

Is it because the bevels are both on the same side the reason the arrow kicks so hard to the side on impact? Side deflection wastes all of your arrows energy.

[@ceciltrimble3213]

This is what I’m thinking!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Naw, it was for 2 reasons. One is the heavy arrows I was using for that--they're a lot easier to get out of the MDF. But also, the positioning of the camera accentuated the kick quite a bit.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The bevels never kick it at all, the regular Clovis bevels are designed for impact cut and strength, the Helicut for impact strength of a chisel tip along with rotation, and the Turkeyfoote for small game hits! Thanks!

[@ceciltrimble3213]

How is it that bevels on opposite sides impart rotation into the arrow but bevels on the same side don’t impart any force at all? I’m no understanding the physics of this.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@ceciltrimble3213 In our regular Clovis the cutting blades are the only thing that cause rotation because the tip doesn't.....but in the HelicutTM both the tips and blades are single bevel and cause rotation together....hope that helps!

[@douglasvaughn9530]

A tip that causes deflection, a long slotted aluminum ferrule, long skinny blades that aren't sharp and close after impact. What's not to like? Lol

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@brokenarrow6491]

If they change a few things on the design of that head it might be a good broadhead.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, it still scored well...but locking blades would be a big improvement.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Locking blades can cause severe deflection and excess bone drag. The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@nsns3743]

Very interesting broadhead, I think it needs some time to work out the kinks.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah...locking blades would be a big help.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! Locking blades can cause deflection and excess bone drag, where ours can pivot and do perfectly fine through real animal tissue and muscle. We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@joshuaspaeth4570]

I don't think I could trust it performing properly when it counts. What do you think John?

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks! We've taken lots of big game already with it and had nothing but perfect pass through kills!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I can only comment based on my testing. But I will say, it's not uncommon for gator style heads to have trouble deploying or staying open in many mediums...but then do very well on game.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

You can take a look at our game animals taken with the Clovis so far, a 100% kill and recovery rate with huge entry/exits

[@lifeatfulldraw7163]

Did u get them from TriplePoint?

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

All of our testing through 18gauge steel today was phenomenal! Zero tip change, cutting blades were perfect...only 1 small bend on the left cutting blade of the 3rd head through steel! Bring on any test we can do, Clovis will perform! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep.

[@joncox2682]

Damn 85 all I seen it do well was flight

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, it scored what it scored based on each of the tests. I outline them all in the Video Description.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@Akeela.4]

I see a lot of comments complaining about your score for this head. I see your replies and understand the scoring. But perhaps for 2023 when there are obvious flaws (like blades failing to open and stay open) you could doc extra points. You have a score guide line. You could add to that with negative points for things just like this, blades breaking, bending, Feral bending etc. Just set it up so they take off of the final score. Failure top open could be -1 full golden arrow, where as something less severe such as a bent blade would be -0.5 golden arrows. Ranking this head with 9 golden arrows is deceiving. Even if you didn't round up I think 8 is deceiving. But to rank it as a 9 in my opinion puts it right up there (on paper) with other heads that have performed exceptionally well. Something I'd say is safe to say this one doesnt.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I appreciate the comment. I actually did dock this head a total of 3 Bonus Points for the blades not opening. It’s outlined in the score sheet. (It’s also outlined there that 85 pts receives 9 Golden Arrows. Golden Arrows are not subjective; they’re awarded based on a pre determined scale of the 100 point scoring system). And even those Bonus Points, both positive and negative, are consistent with my other tests. I have to be as consistent as possible. At the same time, while I can see the blades closing as a potential issue in a hunting situation, I’ve not even hunted with it. There are other mechanical opening heads that have not opened or stayed opened in testing but then people swear how effective they are in the field. So I have to be careful making claims about what “will” happen in the field vs what “might” happen in the field. I do my best to create tests that will predict how a head performs in the field, but unless I’ve shot a head thru actual animals, I really can’t say 100% what will happen. I remained true to my scoring system, consistent in my bonus points, took 3 points away for the weaker areas of concern-yet due to the other strengths of this head, it still scored fairly well. So I added a verbal concern about that area both in the intro and in the conclusion. The fact that some think the score is “too high” is largely, if not wholly, due to the weaknesses revealed in my testing. I gave this a lot of careful thought and stand by my approach. However, it does also cause me to consider scoring in the future and how I might be able to add some process in 2023 that would be more helpful. But that’s not clear to me at this point. This is the first head that has scored well yet has a design issue that “may” make that scoring seem overrated. Again, that’s why the extra verbal cautions in my commentary in addition to the score. Thank you for the concern and suggestion, Ricky. I really do appreciate it.

[@Akeela.4]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures i appreciate the reply! And look forward to your next video! :)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@Akeela.4]

@@triplepointoutdoors I only shoot fixed heads, but I am still interested in seeing how all heads perform. Maybe you guys could send John a new pack? Perhaps it was just some sort of flaw in the package he recieved? Would be cool to see a retest to see if it matches your tests, or his tests :)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@Akeela.4 I totally agree with that, and would love to be with John as he is testing so we all are on the same page, the steel test DOES NOT line up with what we found today! The cutting blades were perfect and we will have all of the vids and pics on our Facebook page! Thanks!

[@wesr1490]

Like everyone else I'm a bit surprised by the score as well. I think it definitely has some potential. But the blades weren't open in the gell test. I've seen better penetration in the cardboard. Not the sharpest out of the box and didn't even make it through the steel plate once without breaking. This is one circumstance where I'd have to just ignore the score and take a hard pass.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Thanks for your interest, but in our test today the Clovis passed straight through the 18gauge steel plate in our shop on the first shot! Head was fine, leading tip was great, and the cutting blades perfect! We aren't sure what happened on John's test, but with our steel the Clovis blasts right through with no worries! .039" tip and blades all day!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It earned the score it got...and I expressed the concerns I had. It's not uncommon for gator style blades to not open in gel; I often dock them 1 point for that, as they get extra penetration due to the smaller cut.

[@chadsmith2941]

I mean its hard to knock the Rage broadheads for failures, then turn around and score this broadhead soo high. I love your videos and I know you always try to give the small companies with new ideas a fair shake. But that broadhead failed at everything other than being a fancy field point.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, I had to be consistent with the scoring. I don't know what else I could've done in the scoring. The Trypan broke a blade twice in cardboard and on the first shot thru MDF...this one proved much more durable than that. But I still docked it a couple points for the blades closing...and I noted that concern in both the intro and the conclusion. The blessing or the curse of the scoring system is that it's consistent.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We will put our Clovis up against any head on the market. The reason that is seemed like the blades stayed closed is because ballistics gel is intended to STOP heads and bullets! If you shoot the Clovis out of a compound versus a high speed crossbow, you get vastly different results as we will show on our Facebook page by doing it! Slower compound bows don't show good results in ballistics gel because it stops the head too soon. Our Ravin testing showed the Clovis blasting through the entire gel block and out the other side; further than any mechanical tested! Furthermore, you can see the deployment of the blades and the helical path beautifully through the gel block with the Ravin because it has the speed to show it in gel...compounds don't in gel, but they do on game!

[@indianapublicland7429]

@@triplepointoutdoors Wow u guys just gonna promoting this till your blue in the face. Don't hold your breath when they don't sell. I but 100 packs if they out preform the sevr. Not in a million years !

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@indianapublicland7429 We'd love to go head to head! Our sales have been great and we base everything off of the science and engineering! Every big game animal that we've put it through has had a pass through with perfect performance and strength!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@indianapublicland7429 Sevr makes a great head! We happen to as well! Thanks!

[@MrShysterme]

the magnet will cause malfunction in areas of iron rich soils same thing happens to releases with magnets the iron dust finds its way and sticks

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Rare earth magnets are small, but extremely strong with no loss in magnetic force over time. Furthermore, they will never be effected by iron in soil at all! Thanks!

[@MrShysterme]

​@@triplepointoutdoors the iron in the soil will stick to the magnet and you'll have a coating of dirt inside your broadhead on that magnet some Carter releases suffer from the same thing, this is a known issue with that release it has nothing to do with the magnet losing strength in certain locations, you should never have magnets around working parts on outdoor gear for this reason

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@MrShysterme I mean, it will most likely make a pass through and into dirt..you're right, but a quick wash with a hose or in water at all cleans it right up for the next shot!

[@MrShysterme]

@@triplepointoutdoors you're the maker, so you are doing damage control, so i have to believe you are usually not like this it isn't from a pass through, if the same thing happens to a release with a strong magnet having a strong magnet in that environment at all will cause all incidental iron-rich dust to make a beeline into your broadhead and stick to the magnet

[@TheSpeyfisher]

Trying to beat out a SEVR broadheads. Almost identical in many ways BUT the blades collapse so to speak as it's penetrating!!!! Not good at all. It's funny how SEVR has taken the retractable broadheads by storm and others are trying to go around it which relates to SEVRs success. Really don't care about magnets holding the blades. I care if it's doing its job! Don't want to track a animal along ways. Thanks again for a NON- PREJUDICAL VIDEO FROM YOU!!!! YOU SHOW RESULTS AND THATS WHAT MATTERS!!!!! GOD BLESS

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. I'm pretty sure the blades would not close on an animal...but I had to show what happened in my tests.

[@donaldbowling8620]

Uhhhh nope. Ty John. 👊🏻

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching.

[@waynestevenson9613]

Clovis😆they shud have called the other two, Cletus and Marcel! I think the score was too high! It needs to lock open upon impact! Def not a Sevr! No danger of me changing!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, the scoring is based on the performance in each of the tests. I can't change that. I even docked it 2 points for the blades potential to close. You can see it all outlined in the Vid Description.

[@yourmomma2995]

or just "closed" broadhead.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We're super proud of the performance of our Clovis! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@chrisfitch2905]

think I will pass on this one. To many other heads that do way better to bother with one I don't trust to stay open. Great job once again

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@CoastalHighCountry]

This is the first review of yours where I don't agree with the final score. I realize it's all scoring system based but I think we can all agree that this isn't an 85-score worthy broadhead.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the comment. Michael. I have to stick to the scoring system I have in place; that's what keeps it from being too subjective. I did dock it 3 pts for the blades closing in some of the testing. And I voiced the concerns in both the introduction and the conclusion. Not much more I can do than that. It's really hard to say that the blades would close in an animal. Gel and cardboard have their limitations in replicating animal tissue--and gator style heads like these have a tendency to close up. Same thing happens with Rage NC, Deadmeat, Truglo and many others. The magnet may create a bigger problem with them closing, but I can't say for sure--hence, I stick to the scoring system and voice the concern.

[@jeffcopenhaver2217]

Way too much going on with this one. I’ll stick to my IW’s and TOTA’s. Great review as always!👍🏻

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

It's probably the most simple mechanical broadhead on the market, and we will go head to head with anyone through animals! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@hoosierdaddy3705]

Not a fan of the blade design. With the ability to re-close like that could be a problem. A little tweaking could make it a winner.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, locking blades open would help.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades will never stay closed in the animal after impact, the other side wing blade but is always exposed, so it always is going to have pressure to want to open! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@Richard-wz9uh]

No go. If you choose a mechanical go with a Sevr. I swore off mechanicals after a not so great experience with the Sevr last year. With the modern fixed blades, IMO there really is no need for a mechanical on big game anymore. If your setup is properly tuned there shouldn’t be an accuracy difference.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@layneco9545]

Just another example why I shoot fixed blades.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

I shot fixed blades before designing the Clovis and love them, but accuracy is not great usually! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Everything is a tradeoff in broadhead design. :)

[@mikenutto396]

Interesting head needs work in the blade department. When a company has to come on to defend itself , it's time to go back to the drawing board. The exist hole is more important then the entrance. The head is interesting in design, I think we have all seen heads do much better ,in endurance , and opening ,and staying open

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We just sent it through 18gauge steel tonight 5x with no issue! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, everything is a tradeoff; it all depends on what you're looking for.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Our blades held perfectly through 3 mdf shots, most mechanicals bend or break at that pt

[@mikenutto396]

@@triplepointoutdoors prove it ! Do a video, you can't come on a video sight and say oh we did this,without a video. Just saying!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@mikenutto396 We did! 5x through 18gauge steel...all on I Live video and pics on our Facebook page! Thanks!

[@tripplebeards3427]

Sevr knock off with a crappy cut on contact bladed tip. Every cut On contact tip style broad head I’ve use always brakes. It’s the weakest point of the broad head. They always bend over and brake of bone is hit.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@tripplebeards3427]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures I think you have talked me into trying a Sevr 2.0 next year. Rage just sent me two packs of NC hypodermic Xbow packs beciase the red collars didn’t open on several deer I’ve shot. Might sell or trade the unopened rages for Sevr2.0’s. Got a whole season away to get the trade to someone worked out. Lol

[@greekmaster1001]

85 is waaaaay too high They need to hit the drawing board They need to get rid of the magnet Plus this test shows you how all other expandables are extremely tough compared to this one going through the steel

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, I can't just "give it a lower score." The way the scoring is set up, it gets the score it gets based on the performance. However, I do have some subjectivity when it comes to the Bonus Scores. I docked it 2 points for the blades closing. That's more than I've ever docked a head for a single weak feature. But like I always say..."you check out the scores in the areas that matter to you the most." :)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@greekmaster1001]

@@triplepointoutdoors OK cool maybe send another set to John Maybe it was a bad batch

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@greekmaster1001 I agree, he should have 2 more!

[@Bowhunt_the_Public]

For a brand new broadhead company , that didn’t fair well to his test compared to other mechanicals , there’s a lot of defending going on. A broadhead that cost twice as much as any other mech on the market shouldn’t have to do any explaining IMO

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We only are citing our own data, and we are 100% USA made here in Ohio and proud of it! Thank you!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

9/10 makes us very happy, most mechanicals fail or bend in mdf board

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I think it did very well in the tests; only concern is the closing with that magnet. Hard to tell if that's going to be an issue in animals or not; most gator style heads have the same issue.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures We've seen great entry/exit holes in every test and animal the Clovis has gone through to date, and we thank you for reviewing our broadhead!

[@charliebeaver6771]

I just went to their website. $70ish and $80ish plus for 3 heads? NOPE

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, I always include the price of the head in the Video Description/Score Sheet.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We appreciate any archer choosing a broadhead that works for them!

[@justinkelly2880]

Looks like they copied the design from Serv with some modifications to make it their own.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, they definitely borrowed some of the strengths...but they may want to borrow the locking blades as well.

[@yourmomma2995]

sever copied the locking screw from the ulmer edge broadhead.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Our design engineering is very, very different from Sevr in many ways!

[@codyrice7325]

Man does sevr know about this.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Not sure what patents Sevr has on some of the features.

[@austinphillips9966]

Yeah sevr is still stuck in Stone Age with rubber bands 😂😂

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Vastly different than Sevr in all ways!

[@lukeonderko8696]

If the blades locked open I'd buy a pack

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Blades locking open can cause severe deflection and excess bone drag!The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

That would be an improvement, in my opinion.

[@timbow50]

Nope! Blades don’t lock so they can collapse.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep. That’s a concern.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@rogerramjet7567]

Don’t need to see the results. Compare it to the iron will. It’s a joke. 😂

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, a mech and a fixed each have their advantages. Sure the IW is much more durable and will penetrate better...but this or most mechs will fly much better and have a much larger cut. Everything is a tradeoff.

[@brandonyoung7760]

8"?? You really need to video that part or something because it definitely looks like a solid 6 ½". Knockoff generic Sevr.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

If you look closely, you’ll see the cut in the gel that extends an inch and a half in front of the broadhead. It’s kind of hard to see on a phone. Sometimes it can’t be seen on film. But it’s common for a head to impact the gel to a certain point, then due to the elasticity of the gel, it springs backward a bit. So the head did penetrate 8”, then bounced backward 1.5”. Again, you can see it if you look closely. At the same time, it was docked 1 point in the bonus section, for the blades not opening in this test and another 2 pts for the blades potentially closing too readily.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@chadwoodward2402]

I can't fathom why these companies are still putting cut outs or holes in their blades. They are painfully obvious weak points. The rage blades now have those scallop cuts on the back of the blade that bend backwards or break. These companies need to stop removing important material from the blades.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Our blades are .039" thick, and yes...we could remove the holes in the blades and it still would shoot just like a field point very easily! We just like the practice function with our 2 set screws

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Everything is a tradeoff...to get one feature, you may jeopardize another.

[@chadwoodward2402]

@@triplepointoutdoors the practice screw seems likea good idea in theory but if it's sacrificing strength then I don't see how it's worth it. What about selling a pinned practice head with the broadheads. Then you can practice with an identical head and add strength to the real one by eliminating the extra hole.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@chadwoodward2402 The strength is there, our mechanical is one of the only that made it through 3 mdf layers with 3 shots and no breakage or bending. The steel broke the blades from being stressed before, but doesn't happen on a new head per our tests on Facebook that are available. The Clovis flies just like any field point, and is THE most accurate mechanical head on the market...so we definitely can remove any of those holes, but it's not really weak there because the wing butts double cover those holes on impact, leaving you with about a .080" thickness in those areas! Some of the strongest mechanical blades on the market, and our tip is a tank! Thanks!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@chadwoodward2402 Many, many, many, if not most....mechanicals fail somehow through the 3 mdf layers....the Clovis didn't! And a fresh Clovis will plow right through 18gauge steel good to go! All data, videos, and pics of the testing are on our Facebook, KZbin, or Instagram! Thanks!

[@michaelvstheworld3680]

Interesting. Looks like an Ironwill and Sevr had a bastard child. I will pass.

[@indianapublicland7429]

Without the reliability of either!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@indianapublicland7429 Definitely disagree! Shot it through 18gauge steel today, perfect shape!

[@michaelvstheworld3680]

@@triplepointoutdoors it was the unexpected that happened. The stuff that is not suppose to happen, but does. I am sure your product will do the job. I once killed a doe with a field point to prove a point. Also, I pass on every mechanical so do not take it personal. I have only ever shot fixed blades and always will.

[@Toe_Knee_69]

$80 for a 3 pack of these? Yikes

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We want everyone to buy the broadhead that work for them, watch over the course of this year and see how many animals the Clovis takes efficiently!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, everyone is on different budgets :)

[@triplepointoutdoors]

100% USA made

[@dustinquinn3343]

Hahaha they gave a flimsy mechanical the name of one of the most durable iconic hunting points known to man. That head is not worthy of the name not even close.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We're super proud of our Clovis and will go up against any head! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@frankbrowning328]

IMO a complete failure. 0 stars. Unreliable blade depolyment makes for a complete failure. Sure lots of cool features but it would be like buying a muscle car that didnt start most of the time regardless of repairs

[@triplepointoutdoors]

The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@frankbrowning328]

@@triplepointoutdoors That's good but the other big problem is blade deployment and having the blades remain open while in the test media. The blades cannot cut to their full cut width if they are not in a completly open state.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@frankbrowning328 I'm going to explain that today on our Facebook page and why everyone who tests gator style heads in gel gets it wrong. The Clovis, like any style rear deploy, deploys beautifully and cuts to a full width when going through animal tissue as evidenced by our hog, deer, ram, and antelope kills. The problem with gel is that it's intended to greatly impede and stop bullets and arrows. It self seals, and wraps around the shaft to drag and stop arrows way faster than in game. I've tested the ClovisTM in gel with my Mathews compound and the ravin crossbow. The problem Mr.Lusk had is that he used a compound. All briadheads stop at around 6-8in and don't have the energy like they do going through animals to see the cut path. You can,however, see the true deploy with a bow with sufficient speed like a ravin or other higher speed crossbow. I have gel tests we've done on our Facebook page...and ill do more today in order to explain, how in gel you really need that speed to do a correct test. When I did it my mathews shows around 8" of penetration, more than any mechanical, but with the ravin it truly shows what it does through an animal. The ClovisTM blows through the entire gel block sticking 2" out the back side and fully deploys through the gel with a 2" cut and it's helical. John needs to use a crossbow for those tests because he's not showing what truly happens in animal tissue...which is VERY different than gel! All of our big game kills have been 100% deployments with huge entrance and exit holes as you would expect. All of the tests done on gel should be using a bow with sufficient speed to show the true cut path, because mechanical or fixed, he's getting that part wrong respectfully! I'll be going over the physics of this today on our Facebook page and we have all of the data and video to explain this important point. The head will pivot around bone because when one blade folds in, the wing butt of the other side is fully out, and under extreme pressure wanting to always fling back open...John didn't realize this point of how the pivoting action works, so I'll explain the physics today with data and results! Thanks!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Frank. I will say, it's not uncommon for gator style blades to not deploy or close prematurely in test mediums...only to do very well on game. Not sure if that is the case with these or not; time and field tests will make it clear.

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

It’s a sver wanna be

[@triplepointoutdoors]

Vastly different!

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

@@triplepointoutdoors the fact you answer your own comments on other channels. Respect. But other than the tip and bevel oh and lack of the blades securing when opening help me to see the difference. I honestly want to know. I teach an exploring hunting and fishing class. I was showing them the difference in mechanical and fixed this video came up and in 4 classes at 25 students a piece at least half of them said the same thing after we watched his review of the sver.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@groundrootsoutdoors627 Thanks so much; let me start! The ferrule is longer so that the leading tip is much further than the wing blades so there is no change of deflection, The leading tip, and cutting blades, all have several variations of single bevel sharpening for severe edge sharpness and strength. The tip and cutting blades are all out of .039" thick SS. The cutting blade hole is designed so that more weight always remains on the cutting blade side so that regardless of speed, it wants to stay against the magnet in flight. The cutting blades have a large 40degree bevel to induce helical rotation in the head. The wing butts do not extend beyond the cutting blades and are curved to gain the maximum surface area of cutting. The set screw holes allow us to put them in opposite the main screw to keep centricity and security in flight. The magnet sits in the center back of the ferrule with a round through hole to secure the cutting blades with NO retention device or o-ring. The ferrule itself is machined out of 7075 al alloy. The rear of the ferule has a 10% flare to greatly increase penetration while also inducing the magnus effect in flight to self center the broadhead for extreme efficiency. Our leading tip system is modular depending on what game the hunter is seeking, etc, etc.

[@groundrootsoutdoors627]

@@triplepointoutdoors ok that’s a bit more in-depth thank you. So how do I get a set of these heads I wanna do some shooting with these.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@groundrootsoutdoors627 www.triplepointoutdoors.com Appreciate the interest!

[@indianapublicland7429]

Junk

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching.

[@triplepointoutdoors]

We'll put the Clovis up against ANY mechanical head or fixed for that matter! The blades are thick .039" 420 SS and when we did the 18gauge steel test today in the shop, the blades were untouched and fine! We don't know what happened with John's tests, but we are definitely NOT seeing any damage at all in steel! I'll test it all day long in front of people to see the head go right through steel if you want, and all of the data is available on our social media on Facebook, Insta, KZbin, etc.Thanks!

[@indianapublicland7429]

@@triplepointoutdoors I know John probably rigged the test come on man ! 🙄

[@triplepointoutdoors]

@@indianapublicland7429 We definitely aren't saying that, we'd just like him to shoot the other new broadheads that we sent him into the steel to see what happens! We've seen none of these results!

[@triplepointoutdoors]

In regard to the gel tests: @frank browning I'm going to explain that today on our Facebook page and why everyone who tests gator style heads in gel gets it wrong. The Clovis, like any style rear deploy, deploys beautifully and cuts to a full width when going through animal tissue as evidenced by our hog, deer, ram, and antelope kills. The problem with gel is that it's intended to greatly impede and stop bullets and arrows. It self seals, and wraps around the shaft to drag and stop arrows way faster than in game. I've tested the ClovisTM in gel with my Mathews compound and the ravin crossbow. The problem Mr.Lusk had is that he used a compound. All briadheads stop at around 6-8in and don't have the energy like they do going through animals to see the cut path. You can,however, see the true deploy with a bow with sufficient speed like a ravin or other higher speed crossbow. I have gel tests we've done on our Facebook page...and ill do more today in order to explain, how in gel you really need that speed to do a correct test. When I did it my mathews shows around 8" of penetration, more than any mechanical, but with the ravin it truly shows what it does through an animal. The ClovisTM blows through the entire gel block sticking 2" out the back side and fully deploys through the gel with a 2" cut and it's helical. John needs to use a crossbow for those tests because he's not showing what truly happens in animal tissue...which is VERY different than gel! All of our big game kills have been 100% deployments with huge entrance and exit holes as you would expect. All of the tests done on gel should be using a bow with sufficient speed to show the true cut path, because mechanical or fixed, he's getting that part wrong respectfully! I'll be going over the physics of this today on our Facebook page and we have all of the data and video to explain this important point. The head will pivot around bone because when one blade folds in, the wing butt of the other side is fully out, and under extreme pressure wanting to always fling back open...John didn't realize this point of how the pivoting action works, so I'll explain the physics today with data and results! Thanks!

[@appallokelley3207]

I’m glad I didn’t buy these

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Some people have really liked them. I have never tried them on an animal.