The times that I have been "called out" for showing my shoulders/cleavage/etc., it has not felt loving. It felt like they were blaming me for their sin, and expecting me to hide the parts of me I was trying so hard to love. Definitely made me feel more like an object than a child of God. You two are so wise. Thank you for this! :)
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
'Decent behaviour should never be enforced' -you
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
InB4 the cascade of assumptions about me anon, a perfect stranger.
@brittneythompson20412 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry, “Christians” could be so judgmental
@taraleasure3 жыл бұрын
I know Logan personally. He and his fiancé are very good friends to me and my husband. I've never known anyone to have such a bold, evangelistic heart. I fully believe his intentions were pure- that his heart was to help the women know they're loved by the One True God, but unfortunately it didn't come across that way, and I don't agree with his approach either. It wasn't loving, necessary or wise. It grieves my heart to see how the enemy has used the situation to let Logan, Mariah, and their families experience so much hate and false accusations from people that don't know them or the situation at all. However, I share a similar belief about swimwear- not just the fact that a woman is choosing to wear a bikini or a man is choosing to wear a speedo, but intentions of the heart matter. You can't say to someone 'You caused me to stumble,' because lust is a willing intention. However, I believe it's a two-way street, and I can only control my side of the street: if I am truly loving others, am I doing my part to help another man not to stumble into sin. Are you choosing to wear what you're wearing to get attention or as an expression of confidence. I think that's what Jesus did when he did "call out" people like the woman at the well- he looked at their hearts, not their sin itself.
@ruth_anne3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You guys addressed this topic with grace and nuance. I was called out when I was I Bible college by one of my guy friends. It was back when layering shirts was popular. I was wearing a tank over a long sleeve, neither of which were tight. As I sat down the strap of my tank fell down over my shoulder and this guy reacted very strongly as if I was purposely letting my shirt fall off seductively. I was mortified because I was fully covered at all times had no desire to “cause my brother to lust.” Another guy friend was kind and called him out for me. I still remember this incident with pain 10+ years later with pain. God has been teaching me that the onus of the lust in the eyes of those who lust and not to live in anxiety that what I am wearing is cause someone else to sin. P.S. Also read Gregoire’s book and it was so healing for me.
@Awakenministries3 жыл бұрын
How is there not more comments about how cute Ellie is? I love what you're saying but seeing her smile in the camera just warmed my heart :)
@heidi57813 жыл бұрын
Im 20 now, but I remember when I was about 12 my dad was staring at my chest because my shirt was too tight and he told my mum, to ask me to please change my top it was too revealing. I remember feeling very uncomfortable when he looked at me, he was taught that woman are responsible for hiding their bodies from men to avoid lust, not the other way around. And I had to hide my body from my own siblings for the same reasons. This video is very refreshing and sheds light on the topic. Thank you for talking about this 😊
@TiffanyDawn3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, how awful!! I am so sorry you experienced that! This message of "women are responsible for men's lust" has GOT to change. It's not true and is so damaging to women!!
@valorandstrength28293 жыл бұрын
Ew! I’m so sorry you went through that.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps he was trying to decide if what you're wearing was wrong, and he wasn't staring at you for the reason you claim.
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*There are two types of modesty: Spiritual and physical* *The Spiritual aspect is true 1000% and is made perfectly clear all throughout the Bible. It shows in the way we act and treat one another. It's what we carry in our hearts and minds and spirits. This is what God cares about and what we should be striving towards.* *Physical modesty is a lie. It's nothing but a man made ideology designed to manipulate and control one another due to our lust for power. It's based on ignorance and our lack of understanding of what our bodies truly represent. This has no basis in the Bible or science.*
@cheyenne8323 жыл бұрын
this topic hits so close to home cause a few years back, when i was maybe 15? , a woman in church told me i dressed like a "hoe"?? it was so uncalled for because i was 15, and i was wearing a regular t-shirt and shorts. it made me feel so bad about myself and for the longest time, even till today, im insecure about the way i dress and look, and i also developed anxiety about going to church cause i was afraid people were judging me.
@LV99guy3 жыл бұрын
This story breaks my heart. I will pray for you
@aramintawilliams52053 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe she used that type of language with a teenager.
@Virma263 жыл бұрын
You are loved by the Lord and he knows your heart
@lisab.64863 жыл бұрын
There are so many unwise things said in churches that don't come from God that have such big effects on people's lifes.
@bkang3 жыл бұрын
What disgusting language to use, to anyone, let alone a teenager!! Totally inappropriate, inside or outside a church setting. I’m so very sorry you were spoken to in such a disrespectful, derogatory way. You most certainly did not deserve it 😣💔
@sincerebolden67103 жыл бұрын
Today I felt to proud I wore a barlette with overalls and for the first time ever I felt so amazing. I always felt ashame of my body cause I have a big chest. It's hard finding cure things to wear. So it felt nice to come out of my comfort zone. 🥺
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard, my size 28 friend with GGG wears cute things all the time without showing cleavage
@AnnaLauraVisser3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I have been dealing with this over the last couple of weeks. I am exploring my boundaries within modesty and the thought that we as women should dress a certain way so men won't sin. That thought has been bothering me so much and really got me thinking. I find it so hurtful that so many christians will blame women for their sin and that for example wearing a pair of jeans is bothering them. So thank you for this, it really encouraged me!
@GoGoSachiko3 жыл бұрын
If you look at different cultures or clothing throughout history, there are many examples of what is “modest” or “scandalous”. Doesn’t matter if you wear a burlap sack, there will be SOMEONE out there who will catcall or accuse you of being overtly sexual and therefore responsible for someone else’s actions…lack of personal accountability is somehow my fault?? 🤔🤔🤔 nope, I don’t think so! 😂
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Nowhere in the Bible does it say that our bodies cause others to sin, that's a misinterpretation. The Bible is clear that our bodies are made in God's image and, because of that, we're the crown jewel of His creation. That's why there was no shame in nudity but we've lost sight of that but that doesn't mean that truth changes. Hebrews 13:8 tells us that Jesus is the same yesterday and today and tomorrow so if He thought our bodies were shameless yesterday, He still believes this today. Yes we have to cover certain areas of our bodies when we're in public because we'll get arrested for indecent exposure if we don't but clothing isn't God's creation nor was it ever intended by Him so it's not a priority of His. 1 Samuel 16:7 says WE LOOK AT PHYSICAL APPEARANCE WHILE GOD LOOKS AT THE HEART ❤ and that couldn't be any more true. David, Esther, Isaiah and Adam and Eve (before the fall) were all elevated when they embraced their natural beauty (bodies) so our bodies are not shameful "stumbling blocks", they're glorious elevation tools.*
@jlv615603 жыл бұрын
I have to say that if that nine year-old boy was feeling lust, then maybe that has more to do with the way his parents have raised him thus far than it does with what the girls were wearing. And yes, I get that the guy was feeling lust, but again, that means he needs to wrestle with that feeling in himself, not attack the girls for what HE'S feeling. And frankly, if showing up on a beach makes him (or his son) feel lust, and they don't want to feel that, then maybe they should stay away from that beach ("if thine eye offends thee, pluck it out;" not "if thine eye offends thee accost and accuse complete strangers of being 'responsible for' thy feelings"). We have a responsibility to deal with our *own* issues, not put them on someone else because they choose to live differently than we do. Bottom line: "Lust" is usually in the eye of the beholder, not the actions of the person being lusted after.
@accidental_renaissance3 жыл бұрын
You said it perfectly 👏🏻
@jlv615603 жыл бұрын
@@accidental_renaissance Thank you!
@the.sarasaurus3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! And also to add an additional angle I feel like the father probably thought he was "protecting" his son from lust but the truth also is that if he is able to really lust at 9 years of age, that also means that he must be able to take responsibility. You can't say that children can understand and feel lust, but not have to understand and take up the responsibility because they're children. Albeit, I think the father really doesn't understand what "lust" is.
@jlv615603 жыл бұрын
@@the.sarasaurus Good point, and I agree. In effect, the father was using "lust" in order to shame someone else and demonstrate his own "righteousness," not struggling to correct it within himself -- the exact opposite of what Jesus said we should do.
@Marie_Garwood3 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was sitting right there with you guys in your living room for a cozy conversation. ☺️ I LOVED this discussion! Thank you so much for sharing it with us!
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Nowhere in the Bible does it say that our bodies cause others to sin, that's a misinterpretation. The Bible is clear that our bodies are made in God's image and, because of that, we're the crown jewel of His creation. That's why there was no shame in nudity but we've lost sight of that but that doesn't mean that truth changes. Hebrews 13:8 tells us that Jesus is the same yesterday and today and tomorrow so if He thought our bodies were shameless yesterday, He still believes this today. Yes we have to cover certain areas of our bodies when we're in public because we'll get arrested for indecent exposure if we don't but clothing isn't God's creation nor was it ever intended by Him so it's not a priority of His. 1 Samuel 16:7 says WE LOOK AT PHYSICAL APPEARANCE WHILE GOD LOOKS AT THE HEART ❤ and that couldn't be any more true. David, Esther, Isaiah and Adam and Eve (before the fall) were all elevated when they embraced their natural beauty (bodies) so our bodies are not shameful "stumbling blocks", they're glorious elevation tools.*
@brittneythompson20412 жыл бұрын
@@wake4082 thank you for this. The Church today seems to do a lot of body shaming and being judgmental
@austenweathersby70273 жыл бұрын
If I understand I also think the girls were in fact teenagers? Which makes the man’s actions all the more inappropriate-no grown man should ever approach young girls he does not know and comment on what they’re wearing.
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
!?!
@courtneylewis24153 жыл бұрын
And to add to that, teenagers, CHILDREN'S, bodies are not inherently sexual, completely regardless of what they're wearing. They shouldn't even be thinking about that, especially not when approached by a grown man 😅
@Rachel-hv5im3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I always say I am part of Mind-Your-Business Ministries. Focusing on you and yours is one of the most freeing things you can do.
@rachelwilliams24603 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a very conservative Christian home. Nothing wrong with being conservative. However modesty was a big deal in our home. My sister and I had to wear skirts all the time so we wouldn’t cause my dad, brothers, and other men to lust after our bodies. Like why are my own dad and brothers looking at us in that way?? Gross! Also, my now husband was able to help me adopt a healthier/biblical view of modesty. It’s a heart issue. Paul was talking about modesty in regards to not flaunting your wealth and status. Not about the number of inches you’re showing/not showing. Women are not responsible for a man lusting. Men need to take responsibility but women also need to make sure they have a pure heart no matter what they’re wearing. Whether you’re wearing a denim skirt OR a bikini, you can be immodest either way depending on your heart. ❤️
@aramintawilliams52053 жыл бұрын
That’s so nasty 🤮 Why would your dad or brother lust after you??
@rachelwilliams24603 жыл бұрын
@@aramintawilliams5205 I don’t know if they ever did lust after us…but we were required to dress in such a way that it wouldn’t cause an issue for them. Very weird.
@esthernelson91833 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I grew up in exactly the same kind of environment, and once even had my dad say he was attracted to me and I was "tempting him". ( By wearing floor length skirts and shirts 2 sizes too big? That was what he forced me to wear, and I had no intention of tempting him!) Ugh!!😕 Needless to say, that was a scary experience,& I moved out a few weeks later. What denomination was your family may I ask? So nice to know I'm not the only one who went through this, but I still feel very sorry for you nonetheless!
@rachelwilliams24603 жыл бұрын
@@esthernelson9183 I’m sorry about your experience too! Growing up in that kind of environment is very damaging in the future. I still have issues overthinking when I wear pants/shorts etc. wondering if I’m drawing attention or causing men to look at me. I grew up non-denominational for the most part. We didn’t attend an actual church part of the time. At one point my dad was preaching to us at home-not a good situation during that time. How about you?
@esthernelson91833 жыл бұрын
@@rachelwilliams2460 It certainly is!! It has messed with my head many times but thankfully by God's grace I've been able to work through a lot of that!! It feels like my whole mental image and my personal standards of what's modest got super messed up by that whole experience. Have you been able to leave a lot of that baggage behind you? My now-fiance has helped me work through a lot, since he saw for himself and knows how damaging all that was that I had to deal with, but God is merciful and gracious!! My parents changed denominations several times while I was growing up; first they were Orthodox Presbyterian, then very conservative Mennonite ( one step away from the Amish literally!!), and then back to OP where they still are today. Do you currently attend church may I ask? Thank you for your sweet and thoughtful response!:)
@rosejanae70233 жыл бұрын
Yes! Christian, especially with the stigma we have today of being hypocritical and judgemental, NEED to be build trust and show that we love the other person before we even consider assisting them on their path to Christ's Heart.
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Lust isn't about the physical aspect, it's about the psychological. Lust is a form of abuse and like all forms of abuse the psychological element is what drives the whole issue. As a survivor of childhood, domestic abuse, I know this almost better than anyone. The reason why people have this false sense of what lust is is because they don't understand that part, we see a mere fraction of what happened during these cases (the sexual assualt) and believe that's all there is to it. Because of this, we assume the victim was responsible for "enticing" the perpetrator, this is ignorance. What we don't see is the priming and grooming and intimidation and breaking down of the victim's psychology in order to make this happen. That part of it is more "fun" for the villain than the actual assualt and that's why all acts of lust (pee...dough...feel ya, raype, incest, prostitution, po...rn, molestation, neck...row...feel ya, zoo-feel ya, homosexuality) are deemed men-tall disorders. This is what I wish more people understood.*
@shalomjackie1923 жыл бұрын
This is so well said! I wish everyone who saw the tiktok video could see this as well!!
@HPTFan3 жыл бұрын
I remember taking life drawing classes when I was in college, there were naked models, and no one didn’t lust after them. It was a hard to learn how to draw the human body. It was fun also. Good point, you both.
@chloevincent46153 жыл бұрын
Yess! In highschool the girls were told to watch how we sit (we had to wear skirts) because it "was distracting the male teachers". Which is just so messed up! Thank for tackling difficult issues and for doing it with love. You're looking so good Tiffany, so full of energy and peace💛
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
So you weren't keeping your knees together? Gross
@lukedornon9603 жыл бұрын
Christians often find it convenient not to confront each other's sins to avoid conflict, but that should never be done in a 'call out' context. Scripture is clear that we confront our brother's sin in private and it only becomes public when he refuses to repent.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
Correct and we are to call it out Not be spineless and afraid to offend them.
@heididueck31473 жыл бұрын
That story of your friend is college almost made me cry! So much wisdom there, I think. Sheila Gregoire's posts on modesty and her book that you mentioned have been so healing for me!! I would sooo recommend them!
@heididueck31473 жыл бұрын
*in college
@MissNina673 жыл бұрын
Totally agree and I would like to add that it is totally inappropriate and in some cases downright sexual harassment to tell strangers that they are causing you to or other people after them. It is so hypocritical when people claim that they are against bikinis or other types of clothing because it sexualizes and objectifies women, when by lusting after them that is exactly what you are doing. I have never felt sexualized of objectified by my way of clothing, but I do feel this way when people are looking at me in a lustful way, let alone telling me that I cause them to lust.
@jazminestryder3 жыл бұрын
Omg I have so many videos to catch up on
@lochtessmonsterxoxo3 жыл бұрын
YESSSS! It's okay to notice someone is attractive or even to think to yourself "hey, they're attractive." There's more to lust than just noticing. I used to think I was such a lustful person when almost every time it was basic, normal, healthy attraction.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
That's the beginning of lust
@bradysmith42452 жыл бұрын
Have you ever read the Jason staples article?
@shamaiahdesilva28553 жыл бұрын
Hiii, first of all i'm a teenager who from Sri Lanka comes from this culture where you do not show your body and that is wrong to do so. So i will admit that i have judged many for going against this and even like my favorite pop stars and groups for doing so, not realizing they could be facing personal shame in their body and trying to embrace it was just uncovering a layer of that shame. I do agree so much more with what is being spoken about and honestly thank you so so much for helping me see it that way. I also do want to be able to wear comfortable clothing on a regular basis, not in the turn of impressing or makin someone lust, but trying to feel beautiful. i'm not a makeup or body art type of person, so all i can do is wear something that i feel good in, and until recently i never felt like this because 1) I've grown up with the idea of not wearing such clothes 2) i was so worried about the judgement that i used to give people and that it would come to me and most of all, 3) that God would not want me to so i refrained from all this for a long time and started off from home and felt like it was ok, and yes truth of the matter is people do use it in a way to tempt, but i wish the world could see just another girl walking on the street just trying to feel confident with herself, i see so many tiktoks about Sri Lankan girls being judged and at this point i was so confused with which was right or wrong now i actually feel like i don't need to feel uncomfortable wearing something i like and i speak for all the girls in Sri Lanka and the world small note though is that i know people can also feel extremely beautiful even with their body covered, there have been some types of clothing i really do not get, but being fully covered itself in an outfit of your choice is also highly recommended as i know that God accepts us, as long as we have good intentions. I love either baggy clothing or pants and a cute top and honestly i know anyone can love themselves with no intention in clouding someone's judgement
@jazminestryder3 жыл бұрын
That's so powerful hearing your story about wearing a bikini Tiffany... I don't know if I'll ever have the true courage to wear an actual bikini. I always feel the need to cover up because I'm afraid of people staring lol
@Booksarebetterthanreallife Жыл бұрын
I was called out once at a high school dance by the pastor of the church (a man) in front of all my peers that my dress was too short. Keep in mind my dress was at my knees AND I had thick black leggings underneath because I was already terrified of getting in trouble. I went in the bathroom and cried and never went to another dance again. Ironically, I began dressing more revealing after that because I was so discouraged and angry. I had tried my best to “follow the rules” and still it wasn’t good enough. Looking back I can see how the problem was clearly NOT me, and this older man looking at me in a sexual way and humiliating me in front of my friends was soooo wrong. I’ve now come to see that immodesty and lust are both heart issues. Modesty is so subjective too and what is inappropriate to some people may be normal to others. I now just dress in a way that I find most comfortable, what makes me feel beautiful and what is appropriate for the setting im in.
@zoel5879 Жыл бұрын
How you got from "feel afraid of that he is seeing other girls and rather look at them as on me" to "I'm not afraid of that anymore"? I struggle with this
@SomewhereInTheMaidenverse3 жыл бұрын
I had to rewatch this video because I was too fixated on that beautiful angel, Eliana! What a precious gift she is! ❤️ I think your relationship is precious and I love how you communicate with one another. This message is very much needed. God changes hearts and convicts us; people don’t. I remember dating a guy in my 20s whose best friend smoked. I actually blurted out in front of this guy, “God didn’t convict him of that yet?” I was totally out of line (immature, too). I think of that often when I see people behaving or acting in a way that seems wrong to me. It’s really takes discipline to keep our mouths shut. Maybe people were praying for him and God had that all worked out already. It wasn’t my place.
@carriestaal18943 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for your channel! It is so encouraging, I share a lot of the same views It makes me feel better. I grew up in a pure culture so I often feel guilty for things I don’t feel I should you have helped me so so much thank you!!
@annabromley23313 жыл бұрын
Wow! I haven't heard people talk about this topic from this point of view. Thanks
@BethThereseReacts3 жыл бұрын
I agree! I still love your advice in one of your other videos, Tiffany: instead of viewing it as a black & white rulebook, think about what clothing is appropriate for the setting
@cfrost873 жыл бұрын
what we wear is very much so based on our environment--- What we wear at the beach is different than what we wear for everyday.
@courtneylewis24153 жыл бұрын
I realised recently that I have several outfits that I'm completely comfortable wearing in front of my husband, parents, friends, extended family, on the beach, shopping, in clubs and in front of strangers but NOT in church, and that's a humongous problem 😅😅😅 I love the mindset that "my naked body is not inherently sexual" - so any part of my skin, a leg or shoulder or belly, none of that is inherently sexual or there for anyone else, and it's something I'm trying to teach myself because the purity culture I was raised in damaged my self esteem and confidence in my own body and beauty. It's a tricky journey and church is not helping, if I'm completely honest! Church feels like the most dangerous and judgemental place when it comes to clothes and while I can't change that, it's an interesting commentary.
@abigailstanley84553 жыл бұрын
Love this video! You approached it so well. ❤️
@miras8493 жыл бұрын
This applies to basically anything, but people don't really like being called out.
@je399813 жыл бұрын
There will always be temptation around us; what matters the most is the work that we're doing within ourselves. For instance, there is a specific area that I have to drive through when I need to go to work or shop; there's Mcdonald's, Chipotle, Chick-fil-a, and you name it ! I can't haunt each company down and file a lawsuit because I can resist the temptation to go to the drive-thru and order a meal. There will always be temptation; how we handle the being tempted will determine whether we're willing to flee from temptation or fall into it.
@aramintawilliams52053 жыл бұрын
Well I guess I was calling for people to lust for me when I went to Miami this past weekend.🤷🏾♀️ On the strip people walked around in their bikinis all the time and guys were shirtless it’s normal there. It’s a cultural difference.
@makdaberhane77172 жыл бұрын
An immoral and unchristian culture
@vilyda3 жыл бұрын
My Christian family always joke about how I run around practically naked in the summer. But it's just that. A joke. And honestly, given that my parents have seen me break down crying for feeling ugly while trying on prom dresses when I was younger, I think they are more so relieved that I am willing to wear whatever I want these days and no longer try to survive on a protein bar and a smoothie per day. Same thing happened with one of my brothers and my dad was like "honestly I'm just glad he doesn't feel like he has to wear a shirt in the pool like I use to." I think if people have seen genuine body struggles, they feel less judgemental on what other people wear.
@gnubaum97683 жыл бұрын
completely apart from any of the modesty, aesthetic or attention reasons for or against bikinis there's the practical situation that bikinis accommodate way more shapes and sizes than one piece bathing suits. many women are a different size in tops and bottoms. an one piece bathing suits don't take into account that torsos come in different lengths too
@rebeccaelda3 жыл бұрын
Love these points, and totally agree. Especially in our culture now, I feel Christians are quite harsh in their approach to calling people out for their sin when they don’t know them. Also.. your baby is so adorable 😍
@theoriginalme26763 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you both and this video thank you very much God bless!!!!
@EmmazingGal3 жыл бұрын
Slightly off topic but I feel like displacing hurt can come from both ends. If someone is angry at the person who corrected them then, the angry person is displacing their unresolved issues and fustations about themselves onto the person who is pointing out what they see and don't know. Instead of getting defensive a better solutions is to explain to the other person what they are going through so that the other person may sympathize along with them instead of judging. Too many people only care when they've been wronged ie getting defensive. More people need to put their feelings aside for a moment to help someone they see that may be in greater discomfort.
@marinegirl48603 жыл бұрын
Sorry but he is in the wrong. It’s not his place to go around telling women what they can and cannot wear to the beach. They are not his family even say this stuff to them. Even family members like sisters, nieces, cousins, aunts and grown daughters living outside the home he has no right to suggest any of this.
@RS-xs7vl3 жыл бұрын
No... you do not call out strangers period. That’s a learning moment for your child about modesty...or how you react when you need to protect yourself from sin. If someone asks your opinion, fine. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut. God will lead you if you need to speak to someone.
@jocelynjones83243 жыл бұрын
The way you dress does make a statement good or bad before you open your mouth. I don’t disagree with the gentlemen he may have good intentions because he knows how men think.So you shouldn’t want to draw the wrong attention from the wrong person.
@ashleydowney12223 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@reeyynnaa3 жыл бұрын
Okay but the baby hiccup at 2:10 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@KayAlexandria2833 жыл бұрын
I have definitely been called out in public by strangers in the summer time because I wear short shorts, the irony of it all was that every time it’s happened it’s always by women who wear super long skirts and a cardigan in the summer and start by asking “You know God loves you right?”, or “Don’t forget to pray” and in my head I’m like “I just got done talking to Him!” 😂 A lot of times they think they’re doing it out of love just because they have good intentions but in reality they’re really judging and tearing people down unknowingly, who could very well be fellow brothers and sisters in Christ but simply don’t dress like them and are being themselves- having nothing to do with wanting attention or rebelling against God 🤷🏽♀️
@GoGoSachiko3 жыл бұрын
My mom and I had a woman in our church come up to us and push her new “weight loss supplement” she started and wanted us to buy from her…she would also say weird comments on our FB sometimes like “oohhh time for a walk!” Or “use that gym!” 😒😒😒 it made my mom and I very upset and really kind of bitter towards her. She and her husband had a missionary outreach and spoke about all these great things God was doing and encouraged the church to support missions but then turn around and tell us or any other “bigger women” that we should REALLY consider this weight loss supplement. As if God loved us less and her more because of a dress size or number on a scale?? Insane!! Obviously it would be easier to be smaller but to be AT CHURCH and peddling your wares during morning greetings 🙄🙄 no thanks…with love! 😬😬
@bkang3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh!! How incredibly rude…..I’m so sorry you experienced this!! I don’t think it’s appropriate language or behaviour, in church or anywhere really!! And I don’t think there’s any ‘of course’ about it - who’s to say how big is ‘too big’ you know?? We are made to be all different shapes and sizes. You’re perfect EXACTLY as you are. Anyone who tries to make you feel any less than that, just because you have a different body type to them, well…..the fault lies with them, not with you. I hope you and your Mom were able to blot her out of your minds eventually……we are all worthy of love, acceptance and respect, no matter what. Simply because we are people!! Sending you much love 😘💖 xxx
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Read your Bible and you'll see it says that God created us nude with no shame. This was because in God's ideal world, we embrace our bodies as a physical reflection of God's spirit. God is an artist and we're His art 🎨 therefore, when you embrace yourself, you embrace Him. The reason Adam and Eve immediately hated themselves after they sinned and covered themselves is because they, in sinning, turned away from God and therefore turned away from themselves since their bodies reflected God. God didn't give them clothes because He chose to and He was "covering us in His glory"; that entire context was telling us about how we fell out of His glory. Clothing only came into play when shame, brokenness, evil, and sin did meaning that it's a symbol of these things and the broken bond between God and man. Being ashamed of your image is being ashamed of God's and He didn't create us to be ashamed of His masterpiece and bury it down to where nobody can see it, He created us to display our art in a museum and be happy when someone gazes upon our beauty. That's why people like David, Esther and Isaiah all got elevated when they did this but Vashti, Micah and Isaiah's critics, who bashed them for it, got kicked to the curve. That's also why people today, who flaunt their bodies, make it big while people who bash them fade into nothing.*
@emmyhope263 жыл бұрын
By the logic that lust is about what skin you show, breast feeding mothers would be a prime target. Yet, I haven’t personally had any experiences with people lusting over those mothers. It’s definitely not just about skin and body parts. 💕
@ellaescoto49553 жыл бұрын
ONE OF THE CUTEST BABBBBBBYY EVERRRRR
@janaehassman24653 жыл бұрын
I really like that you talk about how calling others out needs to be in love. I would love if you could do a video on how/when/in what context do we Biblically call someone out in love because sometimes the most loving thing to do is pray for the person, pray that God would reveal our own hearts and motivations, and move on. Other times God calls us to call others out for sin.
@rachaelm70843 жыл бұрын
I agreed with everything you guys said.
@lloydsparks35943 жыл бұрын
CUTIE CUTIE CUTIE
@topollomotjolopane23143 жыл бұрын
I think modesty is broad. Also as it comes to approaching the how people dress, I think there are a lot of factors and layers to it.
@Courtney-qz5si3 жыл бұрын
How on earth is wearing the equivalent to underwear in public in any way a courageous act? I'm a fit 27yo Christian woman who does not wear bikinis because it is exactly the same as wearing your knickers and bra in public; something I'd never do. It is not an act of bravery to bare your body for all to see. It is immodest and insensitive. So disappointing to see Christian people excusing this when we are called to be holy, modest, and chaste. The modern 'body positive' mindset has brainwashed you. Your body belongs to God, and in marriage you and your spouse give your bodies to each other. They are not for public consumption. Unsubscribed.
@Goat.Cheese3 жыл бұрын
Bye! You wont be missed lol
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
One simple point : Just like visual ads are disturbing the peace of mind via sight in lots of places where mercantilism should be absent, the fact that we/people can't escape the sight of almost naked human bodies (attractive or not and often covered with tattoos) behaving more or less stupidly around any body of water will be seen as an obvious lack of care in the future. And Charity is very basic. Again, lots of people don't care about Christianity and the fact that Christianity 'made' the best things out of European peoples. But Christians mocking Christian Charity is always surprising to me... I remember swimming in the river with my parents not so long ago. The common understanding was that people should bring towels and maybe a medium size bag + a good silent attitude with them. Nothing more. So that everyone can profit from Nature's beauty with minimal care of people being around. Courtesy, respect, manners, consideration, education, intelligence, call it what you want. 2021, people bring tents, chairs, beds, barbecues, 'music' at 150db, their nasty looking selves, dogs, toys & balls and floating whatever, 'prayer carpets', smoking pipes, giant umbrellas, huge bags, etc to the same places. To me it's the simple difference between heaven and war. Good people stop going to beautiful places at convenient times = the half-beasts/bad people 'win'. Simple as that. I hate to 'lose'. +
@VictoriaM6893 жыл бұрын
It was tramtic for me wearing certain things to please mens eye.
@meganbailey40923 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Eliana is so cute 😍. I noticed you discussed the samaritan woman in the Bible and mentioned her immorality. I have done some further reading and honestly I don’t believe the woman was immoral at all. It is now truly one of my favorite Bible stories now. Here the articles names and titles: “was the samaritan woman really immoral?” By Dr. Eli Lizorkin-Eyzenberg at the Israel Institute of Biblical studies and the second article is called “the Samaritan woman of sychar (john 4)” by marg mowczko. Very good articles (in my opinion). 😉
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
If she wasn't immoral, why so many men? Even Jesus called that out
@meganbailey40923 жыл бұрын
Sharkgirl7 The articles discuss that topic as well. 🙂
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
@@meganbailey4092 ah so not biblical and blasphemous got it
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Nowhere in the Bible does it say that our bodies cause others to sin, that's a misinterpretation. The Bible is clear that our bodies are made in God's image and, because of that, we're the crown jewel of His creation. That's why there was no shame in nudity but we've lost sight of that but that doesn't mean that truth changes. Hebrews 13:8 tells us that Jesus is the same yesterday and today and tomorrow so if He thought our bodies were shameless yesterday, He still believes this today. Yes we have to cover certain areas of our bodies when we're in public because we'll get arrested for indecent exposure if we don't but clothing isn't God's creation nor was it ever intended by Him so it's not a priority of His. 1 Samuel 16:7 says WE LOOK AT PHYSICAL APPEARANCE WHILE GOD LOOKS AT THE HEART ❤ and that couldn't be any more true. David, Esther, Isaiah and Adam and Eve (before the fall) were all elevated when they embraced their natural beauty (bodies) so our bodies are not shameful "stumbling blocks", they're glorious elevation tools.*
@hannaferry97942 ай бұрын
Modesty IS a heart issue. But is modesty only about your motivations? Does our personal comfort equal modesty? If we feel comfortable in a thong bikini does that make it modest to wear? Do the circumstances and cultural standards really dictate what's modest? Is every culture always modest in God's eyes? God looks at the heart, but does that mean he doesn't care what we wear? Paul did command women to be modest and not focus on the latest fashions or clothing so much as our soul and relationship with God. We should dress in a way that befits a woman that worships God. I'm glad Paul didn't give specifications to hemline length or necklines, since that would definitely make some people get legalistic, but does that mean it doesn't matter? How much of modesty is about what you wear? Yes it's an issue of the heart, but isn't what we wear supposed to reflect our heart and desires? It doesn't always, but we should try to reflect it outwardly. On another note, I think that we should take into consideration how what we're wearing may affect our ability to witness effectively. If we're in a bikini, is a non-christian going to focus on our exposed flesh or on our words? While I do not think all people struggle with lust, and not all men specifically are these uncontrolled lustful creatures that some might portray them as, we should be aware of what we're putting out into the world. But also nobody is responsible for anyone else's sin. And we are not called to convict others of our own convictions. The holy Spirit will work differently on everyone. And we are not the holy Spirit. But why did God give Adam and eve clothing that would last? To cover their flesh or to draw attention to it? They used leaves but God gave them a tunic-like skin to cover them. So clothes are to cover. Just hashing this out for myself here. I've never looked into modesty so much as this year. Learning to not judge others for where they are in their walk with God is extremely important.
@tabsings3 жыл бұрын
This argument that you should dress 'modestly" so men don't lust is stupid, it's like saying leave your phone at home so it doesn't get stolen. Either way, it's not our responsibility. And maybe if this man said the girls were causing him and his 9 years old son to lust he should question the education he's given his son... kids don't lust they're only just beginning to discover the human body.
@ashleydowney12223 жыл бұрын
Guys and women are going to lust regardless of what they are taught. And kids do lust. Going through puberty definitely changes a person's hormones. The guy's son might have been going through puberty. I remember when my neighbor's twin sons groped me once and they were going through puberty. And they were nine. Although when I told their parents about it. They didn't believe me.
@lindstheteacher16113 жыл бұрын
Jesus said it.
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Lust isn't about the physical aspect, it's about the psychological. Lust is a form of abuse and like all forms of abuse the psychological element is what drives the whole issue. As a survivor of childhood, domestic abuse, I know this almost better than anyone. The reason why people have this false sense of what lust is is because they don't understand that part, we see a mere fraction of what happened during these cases (the sexual assualt) and believe that's all there is to it. Because of this, we assume the victim was responsible for "enticing" the perpetrator, this is ignorance. What we don't see is the priming and grooming and intimidation and breaking down of the victim's psychology in order to make this happen. That part of it is more "fun" for the villain than the actual assualt and that's why all acts of lust (pee...dough...feel ya, raype, incest, prostitution, po...rn, molestation, neck...row...feel ya, zoo-feel ya, homosexuality) are deemed men-tall disorders. This is what I wish more people understood.*
@The_xyfghdddffffff3 жыл бұрын
Your baby is adorable😍😍😍
@mikeregan88944 ай бұрын
First off this man had no right to call these ladies out. Sounds like has serious lust problem. I,m 69 and have seen it all , America has some really jacked thoughts about nudity. Maybe if we didn’t put so emphasis on the nude body , perhaps we would a healthier world.
@kevienadixon16643 жыл бұрын
Hey Tiffany…do you have an email? As a Christian woman I have been struggling to believe that God loves me and I need to talk to someone…
@GentlemenJack1093 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that Gods job to call people out on that stuff?
@katie_l3 жыл бұрын
Yes, in a gentle manner. I don’t think you should call out strangers, only close friends or family members.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
Yes but no one wants to offend anymore
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*There are two types of modesty: Spiritual and physical* *The Spiritual aspect is true 1000% and is made perfectly clear all throughout the Bible. It shows in the way we act and treat one another. It's what we carry in our hearts and minds and spirits. This is what God cares about and what we should be striving towards.* *Physical modesty is a lie. It's nothing but a man made ideology designed to manipulate and control one another due to our lust for power. It's based on ignorance and our lack of understanding of what our bodies truly represent. This has no basis in the Bible or science.*
@claramaria11713 жыл бұрын
Off topic, but Eliana is so cute 😍
@TiffanyDawn3 жыл бұрын
Awww thank you!!! I know I'm biased, but I totally agree 😂😍
@chimiko133 жыл бұрын
💓💓💓
@tomdg13 Жыл бұрын
Biblically speaking, you should help him by gouging his eyes out.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
Stop deleting my comments.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
And your husband actually defending her should be ashamed. He's part of the weak man culture. We are losing all our strong men.
@niematansolamenteazucaralg22593 жыл бұрын
“Strong men?” Strong men don’t harass ppl on the street.
@sharkgirlloveschewba3 жыл бұрын
@@niematansolamenteazucaralg2259 I didn't say that man was strong. I'm focusing on the fact that a man is supporting a woman using her body for the wrong reasons because he doesn't want to "offend" her
@wake40823 жыл бұрын
*Lust isn't about the physical aspect, it's about the psychological. Lust is a form of abuse and like all forms of abuse the psychological element is what drives the whole issue. As a survivor of childhood, domestic abuse, I know this almost better than anyone. The reason why people have this false sense of what lust is is because they don't understand that part, we see a mere fraction of what happened during these cases (the sexual assualt) and believe that's all there is to it. Because of this, we assume the victim was responsible for "enticing" the perpetrator, this is ignorance. What we don't see is the priming and grooming and intimidation and breaking down of the victim's psychology in order to make this happen. That part of it is more "fun" for the villain than the actual assualt and that's why all acts of lust (pee...dough...feel ya, raype, incest, prostitution, po...rn, molestation, neck...row...feel ya, zoo-feel ya, homosexuality) are deemed men-tall disorders. This is what I wish more people understood.*