alright, so i posted this video about two years ago now and i just wanted to say that 1. my opinion of luther as a character has totalllyyyy shifted since then lmao,, it's so weird to look back on this and 2. pretty much all of your comments are so great and have so many valid, interesting points and i've loved reading them!! i haven't gotten around to responding to most of them but they really have helped me understand the nuances of so many of the characters and this show as a whole :D thanks everyone
@jepiene4 жыл бұрын
I think Luther is one of the most interesting characters, psychologically speaking. To have such an abusive father and still defend him and trying so hard to be right and tough and the fact he realises in season two that he was wrong about pretty much everything is such a big character growth
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
i totally agree, i love luther's arc in season two! it was so satisfying to see him realize his mistakes and try to fix them, im really glad they redeemed him
@cptnwynn4 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone forgets that Luther was abused by Reginald too. But everyone ignores it because they don't deem it to be "as bad", I've heard a few people say they don't think he was even abused. I liked Luther even in season one, and I like him even more now in season two. I really hope the fandom stops taking characters like Luther at face value. I swear it's like we can't have any sort of nuance in this fandom.
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
yesss, luther was abused too, he just dealt with it in a different way by trying harder and harder to live up to reginald's expectations to the point where he didnt feel like he had a purpose outside of his missions
@bug6753 жыл бұрын
Exactly and as somehow who was abused but not “as bad” according to the fandom it fucking hurt going into the fandom and expecting not everyone to love him but at least acknowledge he went through horrible shit too but seeing everyone invalidate that it made me feel like I also had no right to be traumatized by the abuse I experienced bc it wasn’t “as bad”
@sharahera82993 жыл бұрын
Everyone was abused but luther was the only one to turn out like that
@bluejay54053 жыл бұрын
@@sharahera8299 None of them turned out the same way. None of them were abused in the exact same way either, seeing as Reginald seemed to have specific expectations for each of them. And another thing nobody talks about is that all the characters exhibit toxic behavior as a result of their upbringing in one way or another, but people only ever get mad about Luther.
@galerights89832 жыл бұрын
fuck him for locking up vanya ill never ever forgive him for that
@eurusng39654 жыл бұрын
Luther's self-importance was tuned down significantly to an almost average level in season 2. Luther's physical size was also tuned down significantly in season 2, his body size almost human. Coincidence? i tHiNk NoT-
@tamla98752 жыл бұрын
N why they did that?
@pinkdance23962 жыл бұрын
They made his body look more humane to show that after one year of thinking through his past mistakes he also began accepting his body and feeling more comfortable in it.(While in s1 he tried to cover himself as much as possible in s2 when he fights for jack ruby he doesn't wear a shirt and even lets Allison hold his hand when they meet even though he doesn't wear gloves)With self reflection came and self awareness.
@ereethi4 жыл бұрын
i feel like a lot of people who hate him are just invalidating his trauma. im gonna be honest, he didnt even mention the moon that often (i think) and plus he’s opening up about what happened to him.. surely that’s a good thing???
@Just-astrange-gal4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he was redeemed much in s2, but he’s still more likeable than i am
@vminmotivationalcurve88yea643 жыл бұрын
But well, I hate him for being so clueless.. To be fair, he's the cause of Vanya's outrage..
@Algenie3 жыл бұрын
People don't really understand the point of Luther's character is to showcase how people react differently to trauma. In Luther's case, he tried to cling to the past and what good he saw in his father. That really hits home for me personally, it's kind of upsetting that people despise him for this and try to make it out like he's had it easier than everyone else. Reginald literally only put him as No. 1 and 'liked' him so much because he was easy to manipulate and was loyal whenever Reginald showed him an ounce of humanity, but he was used and abused just like everyone else. I say 'liked' because I really don't believe Reginald liked any of them, including Luther. Luther was just....easy to control.
@crazyape22222 жыл бұрын
I mean his dad littlerly sent him on the moon so nobody especially him would have to see what he did to him. Everyone else either died or got to live life the way they wanted. He just wanted everything he went through to be worth something the only one who didn'twas 5 because he warped out of his time then got an amazing job for his skills and mindset. And everyone hates luther for what he did with vanya. Yeah it was fucked up but like... littlerly nobody can tell me they wouldn't have done the same thing. He wasn't just thinking he was important. He was trying to save the damn world he went about it the wrong way but only one person ONLY one disagreed with what he thought was the best option. And honestly especially after knowing what she did to their sister it's a serious surprise he didn't kill her when he had the chance and genuinely would've saved the timeline. If allison did save vanya her way the end of the world would still happen because something else would set her off eventually. If he killed vanya yeah everyone would be understandably upset with him but like. He would've saved THE FUCKING WORLD.
@el_torr4 жыл бұрын
i may not like luther that much compared to klaus and five, but he has his moments that are very iconic.
@erikbolkeny3112 Жыл бұрын
I honestly fucking love Luther, the way this big burly man just stumbles around, going with the flow, drifting from place to place is just fucking hilarious, he might be my favorite character in the entire show. I didn't know people hated him this much :(
@GennaG Жыл бұрын
lmao yessss,, my opinion of him has changed a lot since i posted this video tbh :) he's pretty much just a sweet, dumb himbo,, it's hard to remember why so many people collectively despised him when just season 1 was out lol
@dreamydood_4 жыл бұрын
I'm indifferent about Luther. He isn't a bad character or person- he has done VERY fucked up things but people have to realize he was abused too and he did sorta think he was doing everything for the greater good. Even though, ya know that shit helped start the end of the world. I'm ✨uncomfy✨ with him being in love with Allison but it's not horrible. I'm really happy they did his character some justice in season two and that he apologised to Vanya.
@alexisstarr66624 жыл бұрын
I feel as if Luther had grown, I mean when (warning spoilers) Five went to go see if past self, Luther was totally helping, Luther is better now. Also can we just talk about the fudge nutter scene, I just want a while video of that scene. Since people do this all the time : First 😂
@mementomori4817 Жыл бұрын
I feel like people forget that Luther is a very deep character with motivations that are way more complex than "I think i'm right all the time and I want to hurt my siblings". Because he was the last one to escape the abuse, it's still very much fresh and during the first seasons he has not even had the time to process the fact that he was abused. He doesn't even realise! Reginald was very strict on him, most of the times he was taught that he had to be the leader, the strong one, the one who never faltered, to disregard his feelings (think about the body dysmorphia) for the 'greater good'. And he has never lost that aspect. He did not want to hurt his siblings (he could have very easily killed them in those moments mind you), he was convinced that wat he did was for the greater good; saving the entire world. People often forgive the other characters for making mistakes: alison being quite the bitch in s3, victor for ending the world multiple times, klaus for being a whiny little shit 80% of the time, diego for his hero-complex that has put the others in danger multiple times, and five for being a straight up arsehole that insults people whenever he gets the chance. They get forgiven because 'they love their siblings'. Meanwhile Luther, the one who is arguably most traumatised (after five) because he was the one to last escape and he is the one stuck in a body that he hates and did not choose for, becomes the scapegoat for many people even though he's such a sweetheart. Even his own siblings constantly insult and belittle him! And yet he would still do anything to protect them, how can you not love the guy?
@ophelia67034 жыл бұрын
Luther is adorable, he is my favorite character. I understand why some people hate him, but honestly he was a great and awesome character.
@jaidarichardson40243 жыл бұрын
I always liked Luther, and honestly the way he acts makes the characters more interesting. People get mad about his actions but honestly wouldn't be boring if they all acted and reacted to things the same, he's a odd man out on somethings and it just makes all of their dynamics more interesting
@gritzpy66854 жыл бұрын
Him being out of breath from getting in the car is hilarious.
@calistajudd19324 жыл бұрын
Luther was pretty good in season 2, he did work with Jack Ruby and in a StripClub. He felt miserable and happy at the same time when he found out that Allison got married. He tried making up with Vanya even if she didn’t remember anything . He was pretty dumb when he met both of the 5s. I’m still pretty pissed of that he closed of Vanya’s airway so that she passed out, but the love of his life got her throat slit by her
@bug6753 жыл бұрын
Also let’s not forget that Luther was conditioned by his abuser(Reginald) to put aside his own feelings and life for the “greater good” and we can see he didn’t want to hurt Vanya but he felt he /had too/ to save the world
@blakelowe13004 жыл бұрын
Look, if you have to say technically... you're already off to a bad start.
@emmaholmes77454 жыл бұрын
Crab dance ✌️😽
@kendalljames69224 жыл бұрын
luther was just dumb to me in season 1 but i feel like he got better in season 2. he helped five and was there for diego. he really was there for his family so i liked that. i honestly feel bad for Luther because like nobody realized how hard it was for Luther to find out that there was no point for him to be on the moon because he really trusted his dad and stood up for him. yeah he did talk about it a lot which was annoying but it was super hard for him. in conclusion he not my favorite but he’s likable
@skupp6972 жыл бұрын
aside from the horrible thing Luther did at Viktor (Vanya) I think people hate him for unnecessary things. Like he constantly referring back to him being on the moon for 2 years. Yes 5 had it worse. But that doesn’t mean his trauma is not important, I mean imagine being isolated from everything and everyone for 2 years to find out it was for nothing. That would break you as well.
@Hannah-gz5xy3 жыл бұрын
I love how out of an entire season you managers to find 4 minutes of slightly likeable clips of him
@anyamendez30992 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE the whole cast! They did an amazing job with the umbrella acadamy from the actors to story line to choice of music..everything. ❤
@BornToBeWyld3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've got no beef with any of the characters - Luther included. I mean, yes, he fucked up - but the dude was probably given a superiority complex by his father. Him and Diego probably were put under more pressure by Reginald, growing up. I mean, all of them were put under way more pressure than a child should be, but being One and Two, both of them probably faced the most. You're not gonna know exactly how to act as an adult when you were given a skewed upbringing. And as for Luther potentially being seen as selfish; he does care for his siblings. He probably just hasn't figured out yet how to come out of his own head.
@trapanese96072 жыл бұрын
just finished s3 and came back to see luther’s growth and s3 luther is the best he’s creeping into being my fav character
@GRA5S2 жыл бұрын
He's always been my favorite. I didn't like how they reduced his character to a comic relief in season 2 instead of focusing on his actual redemption arc but I guess it's better than how he was treated in season 1. Having watched season 3 and finding out that him being on the moon wasn't useless and he was actually unknowingly guarding the most important "thing" to his father was bittersweet. Now he knows he was sent to the moon not because his father set him aside all those years ago but he actually had a purpose. Also having someone marvel at the fact that he lived in the moon is a big win for him. So glad Sloane seemed to be genuine and not just another Allison.
@augustinensang31094 жыл бұрын
Luther is one of the best characters in TUA. Please do a season 2 version.
@numberone26762 жыл бұрын
I love Luther honestly😭 He's not even that bad a guy. No one really blames Allison for manipulating her daughter and many other people just so she could become famous. Or Klaus’ drug addiction even though it constantly harms himself and those around him too. Literally all the siblings have done things with mistakes.. well maybe except Ben but we’ll see for sure in Season 3 I guess.
@parasiticsfx3 жыл бұрын
I do like the fact that in season two the family started to really fight back at luther and Alison saying that the romance stuff they had is suoer wierd lol
@BessieHeroing2 жыл бұрын
Luther is so funny in season three- he might be my favourite this season
@JJBinks-bd6vx4 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed him in season two, Idk he was kinda dumb, but adorable xD
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
yeah, same, he's pretty stupid but in an endearing way lol
@JJBinks-bd6vx4 жыл бұрын
Genna G yeah😂 also thanks for the heart❤️
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
ofc!
@stripeysins71964 жыл бұрын
himbo energy in season 2
@eggsmcbenedict3 жыл бұрын
Luther has always been my favorite lol
@NoNo-eh2cu Жыл бұрын
He’s my angel, my pookie, my babygirl, my insanely fucked up gf
@bartreck36464 жыл бұрын
Yesssss I’ve been waiting for an umbrella academy episode
@disgustingbrat19272 жыл бұрын
I’ve always that Luther gave of a cute vibe in a lot of the scenes so he still remains one of my faves
@kimisundberg9007 Жыл бұрын
Luther is my ❤
@ocsmichaelanthony4 жыл бұрын
Jumpscare at 0:48
@tmyers_04274 жыл бұрын
Lol
@saraamos35304 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think I watch your channel too much 🤣
@aka_inni85104 жыл бұрын
*SPOILERS* me : well I’ll just watch it anyway Also me when I finished the video : *damn it*
@Elizabeth-il5ps4 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Luther lol
@abraham2172 Жыл бұрын
Luther always tried his best to protect his family and tried to do the right thing, even if he was terribly wrong about Vanya (which he noticed and apologized for in season 2). His dad probably brainwashed him all those years to think Reginald is always right, its only natural he adopted the way Reginald saw Vanya. He clearly cared a lot about his siblings though.
@jnae29174 жыл бұрын
dude i just started watching umbrella academy (im on s2 ep1) and i seriously love klaus so much, he is my spirit animal
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
yaaassss, klaus is amazing
@xx.berry54 жыл бұрын
I thought the title said Hitler and i was like into 30 seconds already and i was thinking what the fuck is happening OMG LMAOOOO
@kelpochicken4 жыл бұрын
The umbrella academy being in L a U v for ( ) minutes straight (Scenes when they are being in L a U v with she played in the background, it would be so romantic lmao)
@briellegerman64292 жыл бұрын
I love reading all these comments regarding on Luthers trauma understandable like it takes a lot of time in a lot of stuff that he’s gone through defending his father and like thinking his father never lies his father is always true he’s just doing everything with the kindness of his heart truly I just think Luther has a mentality of a child in the sense what he still has at Hope and not even once having the sense of reality what’s going on with him throughout the season one and season two he has literally been freaking clueless the entire time in regards to blaming Vanya on causing the apocalypse however the case may be all I’m going to say is is that he was the one that basically cause apocalypse he just turned on the bomb like someone else in his family was traumatized and he didn’t have no regard for their feelings and again their family do it was not healthy it still baffles me of how much Luther did it with want to listen to any of his family members when they said to take her out of the cage in season one he started the apocalypse and they have been fucking with history they been messing with time and so many people are dying because of them and the corporation
@balloonwithglasses4 жыл бұрын
I’m ok with Luther, I don’t hate him
@elizabethhirst9419 Жыл бұрын
In Season 1, I would not accept a hug from Luther.
@riolewis1042 жыл бұрын
I like him tbh
@thejamester144 жыл бұрын
i liked luther in season 2
@LuneAnimations2 жыл бұрын
in season one luthor was ok but at the end bit i kinda hate him, mostly because of what he did to vanya. The first doomsday was kinda his fault. If he stopped and tried to talk to vanya rather than attack her, none of that would have happened.
@lucask35632 жыл бұрын
What’s the moon look like when five looked up at the sky at night after the apocalypse while he was living there for so long?
@yaxantonio3719 Жыл бұрын
Some differences with Luther in the comics Though Luther loses his human body in his seemingly 20s, a newspaper clipping in a panel in the comics sees that Luther was still a kid when his ape transformation happened And it was due to a failed mission to mars His father also used the body of a martian ape to save Luther in contrast of his more earth gorilla body Luther's codename is spaceboy because he is the first kid to go to space in the comics
@Kaneeeeee-f4d2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I just finished season 2 and I don't understand why the fans hates Luther that much like he seems really cool and I like his character the fandom is kinda toxic
@hatter78244 жыл бұрын
i woulda locked up Vanya too...
@izzfizz97214 жыл бұрын
Ring ring Vanya protection squad at ur door
@jepiene4 жыл бұрын
Okay maybe but not by pretending to care for her and suffocating her in the process
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
@@jepiene yeah, he shouldn't of done that. i kinda get why he locked her up, though, because he had no idea that it was an accident, or that she was being manipulated by harold. he only knew that she could be dangerous and that she hurt allison. she could have been setting up a trap, for all he knew. but even then, he should've talked to her and gotten her point of view after putting her in the room. idk if that made any sense, im not good at putting things into words lol
@disabledhart4 жыл бұрын
That scene was insanely triggering for me as someone who's been in solitary confinement when I was in a psych ward. If you go to someone for help and they lock you up, don't even try to listen to you, that's seriously messed up. I see a lot of myself in Vanya, just because you only look at the surface and see she's "dangerous" doesn't mean Luther was in the right for betraying her trust like that.
@PrincessX-ke8tj4 ай бұрын
Luther be my bestest boi, and i honestly have a theory that Allison used her powers to get him interested in her, which means he got abused and traumatized twice by people meant to be his family. That's got to mess with you.
@mikmastayt69404 жыл бұрын
Blinks in stupid*
@vivianareyes40424 жыл бұрын
uhh MA'AM LUTHER IS THE MOST UNPROBLEMATIC KING.
@agnes22254 жыл бұрын
NOOO THATS THE BEN AND KLAUS DUO COME ON
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
i think the most unproblematic, most wholesome character in tua is probably agnes, the donut lady, i love her so much-
@oops_i_did_it_again43834 жыл бұрын
Dolores is the most unproblematic They all need 💫Therapy💫
@一二02 жыл бұрын
Lol he’s my favorite
@primereactzgaming52892 жыл бұрын
Am I trippin or does Luther looks like Philip Rivers
@graphitepants65223 жыл бұрын
I think that if they made him juust a tad less hatable in the first season, I would’ve really liked him. I wanted to so much, since I love his character in the comics
@michelleplucinski23272 жыл бұрын
I never hated Luther❤️
@Shoob-k5u2 жыл бұрын
People will forever hate Luther for choking Klaus but Viktor blew up the moon bc he was bullied as a kid and that’s ok. Let’s be real none of the Hargreeves are great people or siblings so let’s at least be fair
@childeater42254 жыл бұрын
didn't he also kiss his *sister?*
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
i feel like they werent really raised as siblings, and they're not related by blood but like, everyone else in the academy thinks of each other as siblings and call each other brother/sister, except those two, so like idek anymore-
@SaviMatteo28104 жыл бұрын
I never really liked Luther, but DIEGO on the other hand- I don’t like either of them The only ones I care about are Klaus and Five-
@owend90504 жыл бұрын
no idea what umbrella academy is so yeah (is that bad? idk)
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
the umbrella academy is a show on netflix, its pretty good :)
@owend90504 жыл бұрын
@@GennaG thanks I might watch it
@ajoke56114 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who dislikes Diego??
@GennaG4 жыл бұрын
i have mixed feelings about diego, he's annoyingly hotheaded and unnecessarily rude to the other members of the academy, especially vanya, throughout season one. also in season one, he constantly annoyed detective patch even though they were no longer dating and she made it obvious she didnt really want anything to do with him. but occasionally he's not so bad??? idk
@LulMackLive2 жыл бұрын
I never disliked a character in a show so much
@mariababkina50344 жыл бұрын
I just don’t like how he’s kinda abusive towards his sibling.