Wide frets and narrow frets can impact the tuning and intonation of a guitar. Here is a tip to consider when selecting fret wire for your next guitar project.
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@pallecla4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the width of the frets can affect the intonation. However, how hard you press the strings, can affect it even more.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
That'll be covered in the next Luthier's Quick Tip (already in the can).
@nicolashrv4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that is not caused because the fret gets worn, but because of the minimal fret height, is like doing a bending down to the fretboard, and it will happen no matter how round or flat a fret is.
@pallecla4 жыл бұрын
@@nicolashrv Exactly my point. The effect fret wear has on intonation is minimal compared to the effect caused by pressing the strings too hard.
@nicolashrv4 жыл бұрын
@@pallecla the fret wear has the same effect as having the strings too high in first place.
@pallecla4 жыл бұрын
@@nicolashrv That must be some seriously high frets we are talking about, if you compare them with too high action...
@AnubhabDas4 жыл бұрын
Really love your videos sir!! U r very helpful person. Love from India!
@keesketsers5866 Жыл бұрын
I prefer jumbo frets, simple reason is slides. Tall narrow frets catch my fingertips with fast slides reducing my speed considerably. I don't care about the intonation difference.....I can't hear it at all, I'm not sensitive to that in the slightest. Almost all of my string breaks were on tall narrow frets, don't know why but that is absolutely clear to me.
@mikeivey84714 жыл бұрын
Great info as always !! Thank you !!
@0000song00003 жыл бұрын
i just realized i prefer narrow frets, after buying a classical guitar with tall narrow ones. they are a charm :)
@TheNeonRabbit Жыл бұрын
To hear the difference when a worn fret is off by 1/64th of an inch you're going to need more than a "trained ear". That's gonna require super powers.
@123spleegeАй бұрын
totally, this comparison is a bit ridiculous.
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev7843 жыл бұрын
That’s why I had all my guitars stainless steel frets refreted (and no tonal differences in my case as the job was done with highly polish process and perfect set up)
@ssabp83132 жыл бұрын
@ no talk What kind of guitar did you put the stainless steel threads ill still frets on what were they medium smoke is medium's small jumbo and what about the tonal changes ?
@jouniranta-puska46993 жыл бұрын
I would think that the wider frets would also wear down more slowly because of more material in the fret, negating any difference.
@danialm81223 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir, good information
@donaldharris88263 жыл бұрын
Fret measurements effect: tuning, intonation, tone, tembre, sustain and playing articulation ! ! ! Peace & Play 🎸 On . . . 👍🤘🎸😎 DDH 8-24-2020.
@MrJimmyWalsh4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting and educational. But watching this I just want to see what's going on with that steampunk copper aluminum beauty right there
@trajtemberg4 жыл бұрын
This is a great point, but I can't tell A from B, so i'll be fine. Stainless jumbos feel awesome and that is what i care the most.
@michael_caz_nyc4 жыл бұрын
Love the stainless steel Frets on my Suhr. . . also the Locking tuners.
@TexanUSMC80892 жыл бұрын
All locking tuners do is help you change strings faster.
@dogman5680Ай бұрын
@@TexanUSMC8089 only if you’re not using a whammy bar. In which case the wraps around the post tend to get caught on each other when returning to pitch. This is especially true of the wound strings. Locking tuners allow for less -sometimes none-wraps, significantly helping tuning stability. Guaranteed.
@redhorsereincarnated50402 жыл бұрын
I bought a Les Paul in 1985. It was a few years old. The frets were wide and short and I loved it. I was 18 and it was the first electric guitar I ever played, having only touched an acoustic a couple of times before that. So I didn't really no anything about frets. Not longer after my brother bought a 4001 bass. The word that came mind was craggy. I loved that bass but it was so hard to play. Then he bought a Strat. The frets were so tall and narrow compared to my Paul. I felt like I had to work a lot harder. I had to dig in a little. There's other factors to that, ofc, but the frets really made a difference. It was a good learning experience. Then he got a 70s Mustang bass. The frets were kind of flat and wide like my Paul. It plays like butter. So smooth. I still have that bass.
@TexanUSMC80892 жыл бұрын
Scale length and string diameter can come into play the same way you're describing. Shorter scale will be easier to play.
@monitorlizard9971 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this statement whole heartedly. Im just now researching specifics for my kiesel order. Ive played a lot of guitars and have owned a few prestige higher end models that played better than anything else I could find in stores. my gothic gibson sg was my 2nd guitar, my first real guitar that i learned the most on for the first 3-5 years of playing and its what I learned to shred on. I was 17 18 and could play faster on that guitar than i ever could in my life. Even when i matured as a guitarist and later started playing prestige ibanez shreddy types, my playing slowed down considerably as I got better, but i still always preferred my gibsons fretboard as i could just fly so much faster on that thing. What i remember most about my gibby is how low and wide the frets were to the board and also a very flat radius and on top of that the 24.75" scale for even faster noting. Speed and having a guitar that has superb playability for speed is under rated imo because from my experience being able tonaccess notes far easier and faster means just more control over all. I can choose to play as fast as i need or as slow as i need but the frets and super low action always make most situations while playing much easier.
@redhorsereincarnated5040 Жыл бұрын
@@monitorlizard9971 Interesting stuff. I actually haven't played much electric guitar in the last 30 years. I mostly doodle on acoustic. None of the electric guitars I've played since my Paul, which isn't many, had the same type of frets. It was almost like playing a fretless with a little help. Sometimes I wonder if I'm remembering it correctly, though. I recently watched some videos on fret types and they didn't talk at all about low wide frets.
@monitorlizard9971 Жыл бұрын
@@redhorsereincarnated5040 yeah i feel you on my memory being a blur after so long. It was a while ago, my gibsons frets were somehow superior to every single gibson id try out in guitar centers during that time. Im really not sure why that was. Other gibsons frets seemed bulky and slowed me down. But my gibby had insanely low and flat action and the frets themselves were just as low and flat. Idl why... But like i said all other gibsons in store did not feel the same as this. Maybe it was because I wore the frets down so they were super low? Idk. my gibson was a 2000-2003 model brand new. Websites say gibson uses medium jumbo as a standard though. So I am assuming this has got to be it. It is also the standard size kiesel has on their builder, and kiesel is quite known for being the shred metal top g american standard instruments atm with popularity growing as we speak. So i would assume medium jumbo. I researched the specs on my sg and i cant find the specific fret sizes for that build. But I did read on some forums that gibson has used quite a few different fret sizes over the years and people even measure and realize that their older gibsons frets play so well because after heavy use and wearing it in much like a form fitted baseball glove, the frets will "wear down comfortably" to being flatter with the board and more comfortable to play on. Limits of my knowledge on frets for the moment. Shrugs
@monitorlizard9971 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact i actually found my gothic sg in a used guitar store one day and was shocked. It was the same exact guitar with the same exact superb playability except, they had filed the frets down suuuuuuuuper low even further to where there was barely any fret at all. It was so easy to play that it was actually a tad harder to play and felt really weird playi g on almost flush frets with like less than 1mm of string gap. If that makes any sense. Definitely great for legato. But it was just crazy finding this guitar and seeing even lower frets than mine and my guitar was already way easier to play than anyone elses and this one with the frets filed down was even more so ridiculous. Even my JS and S series prestige ibanezes i would later get made in japan didnt fret or fly quite like my old gibby. I do say the 24.75" gibson scale versus the standard 25.5" scale is a huge game changer too though. But also the fret wire used. I wish i knew more about the exact finer details and specifics on fret wire.
@budgetguitaristcom4 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan of jumbo frets, but I have to say that I'm liking the tall thin frets these days.
@user-be9ey4jb3c3 жыл бұрын
Narrow tall stainless steel are the best.
@ellg52782 жыл бұрын
Stainless steel are the way to go. Don’t worry about the size with stainless steel
@sampledude88466 ай бұрын
It probably does affect the intonation, but it can be for the better depending on which fret it is. What is more important is to have a good tone, and the crown really affects that.
@cugir3214 жыл бұрын
You can always correct a wide fret's intonation with a regular file.....crown them sharper. You can put a thinner crown on your frets with a regular file. I like wider (110) higher(.050) frets or higher. They give you more metal to work with.....especially leveling.
@TylrVncnt3 жыл бұрын
This thin crown is quickly worn thru tho
@chrisking66952 жыл бұрын
@@TylrVncnt Your logic is off. A wide feet with a thin crown ia the same as a thin fret with a thin crown. I'd the crown ia the sake size on both fears the intonation is the same. And if the material is the same the thin crown will ware the same way on both frets.
@jonathanhandsmusic2 жыл бұрын
I’ve gone recently for 6150, narrow tall, but just for one guitar. The rest I deal with as the cost is prohibitive for my vintage guitars. Good info for sure.
@michaelwoods9005 Жыл бұрын
6150 is medium jumbo. 6105 is narrow tall.
@tonepilot3 жыл бұрын
It is true. I put deep dents in Fender fretwire after about three years.
@shawnadams16934 жыл бұрын
Stainless refret with 6100s, now I’m set for life (especially since I just bought a new Suhr that also has stainless frets).
@eltigre89783 жыл бұрын
no way.....way too high! Too big in general.
@MontyCantsin56 ай бұрын
@eltigre8978: Too big? It’s all down to personal preference.
@williamrome22573 ай бұрын
I like Evo Gold for all mine, that I build How do they compare in this mix.🥑🍋
@fatfro13 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion. I thought it didn't matter how wide your frets are (in terms of intonation) because when they are dressed correctly, whether wide or narrow, they will have the same amount of contact area. BUT, now that I hear you talk about frets as they wear, I can see how wider frets (as they wear) can give more intonation problems than narrow frets. On another note, what brand of fret wire do you use? Thanks for another great video.
@mattstolzenfeld48334 жыл бұрын
Extra jumbo player here. Thank you for providing me a brand-spanking new excuse for my lackluster playing.
@bobaldo23393 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, low-wide frets are the easiest kind to slide barre chords up the neck. We all loved the Gibson "fretless wonder" back in the day.
@EDKguy3 жыл бұрын
My guitar teacher had one when I was a kid... It was awesome buttery goodness
@robertclarkguitar4 жыл бұрын
Awe man. Yes. I have worn frets like your graph. I need crowned. I've had issues sliding up and my fingers grab the outside of the fret. I'm also hearing that slight off tune at times.
@robertclarkguitar4 жыл бұрын
Mine are narrow tall. Well classic vibe 60s.
@lazywarrenlewis4 жыл бұрын
Finger pressure differs from individual to individual and I noticed that is much greater intonation factor to be considered when fine tuning guitar
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
I'll touch on that next week.
@lgp49603 жыл бұрын
When you say wide frets, same as jumbo frets...?
@simenandreasknudsen9272 Жыл бұрын
I am looking for that nice fretbuzz or rasp when you dig in a little on a bass guitar. I have noticed this is much easier on some basses than others. Of course its a about the action being low or high, but I guess it has to be something about the frets as well. If they are wide/narrow etc. What kind of frets should I go for to get the Marcus miller rasp tone when digging in on with fingerstyle. I don't mean slap bass btw, but a similar sound just with digging in with fingers. Thanks
@HighlineGuitars Жыл бұрын
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@pavlepaja7642 Жыл бұрын
Why Gibson Ls custom has so low profile frets ? It doesn't have round ones pr maybe it waas used one i looked...🤔
@jeremywalker666 Жыл бұрын
While the topic is something to ponder when determining fret size, it's an *important note that any guitar with standard fretwork is far from perfectly tuned. The difference in the contact point of used and unused is not important when the note is already off pitch. However, this would apply to true temperament fretted guitars, for they have perfect pitch with every note, but nobody's ears can truly detect the difference when it's that miniscule.
@sparrowhawk812 жыл бұрын
ok so....sorry if youve already got a video addressing this, but why do people want wider frets? im probably going to go google it and see what discussions i find, but it sounds like there are a lot of upsides to narrow/medium frets but...why wide?
@mailvilla Жыл бұрын
04/02/2023: I am a beginner bedroom player. I just bought an Eart T-380 with HH splitable pickups. This guitar sound good to me, and has a lot of features for an inexpensive $400.00 guitar to include stainless steel frets. I have as bad habit of notching fret wires no matter what size, so I though steel would be great for me. But, they are very small, narrow, and highly polished rounded tops, and highly polished rounded ends. The action for 10-46 is very low with no buzzing. They feel OK for me, but will they last is my question to you?
@HighlineGuitars Жыл бұрын
I have no idea. Only you can answer that question.
@alimete924 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, what's your opinions on True Temperament frets? I've seen some builders using them and gluing a fret SEEMS like it ought to have some strength issues besides crowning (for later) problems. I haven't used them myself but it makes me wonder about it.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
Goofy. Weird. Unnecessary. Expensive. Inflexible. Five words that sum up why they never caught on.
@mbaraka922 жыл бұрын
Well, you talk about perfect intonation in your video, and the effect on it caused by slight fret changes. Fine. But however, that effect is smaller than the rise of (different per string and position) tension of a string being pushed down to the fret, which was never part of the equation. TT just solved that, as goofy as it looks. Also, before hating them, people should dive into the physics of intervals and harmony, which is the reason why a perfectly tuned guitar will never be able to play two chords perfectly where one has it‘s major third on the B string and one the perfect fifth… Anyway, this is why (where I guess we have the point where we totally meet) I say that tuning a normally fretted guitar is searching for the best compromise where no one can hear that every interval is slightly off, but none too far. And also, a good guitarist has to learn intonation by micro-bending and light touch ok the fret that can be pushed when a few more cents are needed.
@mbaraka922 жыл бұрын
@@Maschine_Elf Well, fret wear makes playing the guitar harder and makes it necessary to put the strings a little higher, which THEN results in worse intonation. I just got my main guitar PLEKed and I'm stunned how easy that guitar plays now and how flat I can have my strings without outfretting any note. (not trying to over-praise this machine, a good luthier is able to get 99% the same result)
@mbaraka922 жыл бұрын
@@Maschine_Elf oh, that is a good point!
@levijessegonzalez36293 жыл бұрын
how long will evo gold last? how long will stainless steel last? Average play time 7-10 hours a week on the instrument
@HighlineGuitars3 жыл бұрын
Ask Jescar.
@s.d.g.global4582Ай бұрын
Stainless steel? Or is there something better?
@DavidRavenMoon4 жыл бұрын
If the contact point shifted towards the tuners, then the string would buzz on the fret. The only time you would have this problem is with extremely worn frets that need a re crowning. Big frets last longer, and tall narrow frets feel like speed bumps. I refretted my Parker P-38 with super jumbo frets for this reason. The guitar plays much nicer now.
@pagisubuh3 жыл бұрын
good tip. Guitar in general it is not solid accurate pitch in my personal opinion. you was right about nickel fret. 6 hours a day of play...one year gone!
@deadass39542 жыл бұрын
Well dam I should refret my guitars cause I play hard and know the frets are worn but never thought this was why it sounded off 😬 time to learn to do a new skill
@8odycount3 жыл бұрын
My workhorse is a mim Strat, on which I killed the frets within 2 or 3 years. I relevelled the frets and had to take away a big amount, so they were evenly flat again. So I am thinking about getting new frets. But I am not sure which frets I should take. I mainly play blues lead and rhythm. Now I have narrow frets. Any suggestions?
@HighlineGuitars3 жыл бұрын
Go to a guitar store and play all of the guitars until you find the frets you like. Research the guitar to find out what about the frets it has and bingo, you’ll know what to get.
@8odycount3 жыл бұрын
@@HighlineGuitars that's a good idea :) thanks!
@Amorimsoueu Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! I know it's kinda of an obvious question but if a guitarist uses to much strength to press the frets then he shouldn't use jumbo frets, right? Just subscribed to your channel, cheers from Brazil!
@HighlineGuitars Жыл бұрын
If you want to use jumbo frets, you have to accept the possibility of intonation problems.
@ff-qf1th3 жыл бұрын
wait... who presses down on the TOP of the fret?? I always press down above the fret so the string is tighter against the fret. am I doing it wrong??
@HighlineGuitars3 жыл бұрын
No, you’re not doing it wrong. You’re just failing to grasp the topic. No matter where you press the strings with your fingers, you are pressing them DOWN and their first point of contact is the top center of the frets.
@jamminshaman59352 жыл бұрын
Roughly how many re-frets can you get away with before needing to replace the neck entirely?
@HighlineGuitars2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, it's the same as the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop. In other words, it's one of the great mysteries in life. But in all seriousness, I'd say 3-4.
@DarkoPorsche3 ай бұрын
Can you explain if a shop write 24 X-jumbo fret or just jumbo fret. Is there a diffenrence?
@HighlineGuitars3 ай бұрын
What?
@Magik13694 күн бұрын
I love the Jumbos. My fingers don't hit them when I am sliding up and down the neck like the skinny frets. The Jumbos are also slinkier and easier to bend notes. Also, I believe the Jumbos sound better and harmonics come off them easier.
@GuitarJeff4 жыл бұрын
The biggest reason i like wide frets vs narrow is feel. I get much smoother slides and it just feels better. Even though my finger tips are mainly dead callous and numb, going up and down the strings on wide frets is like going down a regular road. Where tall narrow fell like hitting rumble strips on the road. Some people I am sure like it. Which again is all a matter of the guitarist taste. I prefer rosewood fingerboards or ebony, vs maple, or unfinished wood vs finished wood. Its a feel thing.
@williamthrasher85404 жыл бұрын
Another factor to consider is the wider frets will ware slower than the narrow frets because there is less material for the strings to wear off, therefore wearing the frets down quicker.
@0000song00003 жыл бұрын
yes, but refret is cheaper now and the material is WAY more durable than it used to :)
@TexanUSMC80892 жыл бұрын
If you're wearing frets down that often then put on stainless ones.
@identifiesas65.wheresmyche953 ай бұрын
Okay so narrower frets may be better for intonation... So why are wider frets so popular? Whats the benefit? Slightly slower wear if you dont recrown as it wears? If its crowned to a fine point anyway I dont really understand why they're so well liked?
@HighlineGuitars3 ай бұрын
For the same reason high output pickups are so popular. It's the illusion that bigger is better.
@chopperdeath Жыл бұрын
I want a neck that has wider frets for the first 14-16 frets and then more narrow frets after that but the same height. Anyone?
@chopperdeath Жыл бұрын
For more room for my fingers high up on the scale.
@doovie101 Жыл бұрын
Which are easier to level and recrown?
@HighlineGuitars Жыл бұрын
They’re both the same.
@CarlSmithAviationBroker6 ай бұрын
Some artists want to swap out regular frets on their bass for Mandolin frets. Why?
@HighlineGuitars6 ай бұрын
🤷♂️
@THRobinson4 жыл бұрын
Need to start planning after 12-18 months, means planning 3.5yrs in advanced for most people... That some seriously slow planning. :) So, for narrow frets intonating longer than wide frets, I guess the trade off is that they don't last as long? Because narrow frets have less metal to wear down than wide? So either the frets go out of intonation faster or wear down faster, either case you're recrowning or replacing them at the same time.
@onpsxmember4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is any upside in those pyramid shaped frets then. I guess there is a reason they aren't popular.
@MsDenver2Күн бұрын
Why don’t manufacturers put stainless steel frets on so we keep the intonation and longer life?
@HighlineGuitarsКүн бұрын
@@MsDenver2 Cost.
@danielbarbieri819926 күн бұрын
I'm a bit heavy with my left hand, that is why I fret all my guitars with 6130 instead of 6150. It is worse when you press heavily a tall narrow fret than a worn short wide fret. You do not need super hears to hear it. Obviously stainless steel frets will last more. But they sound different and do not please to everybody. Then we talk about re fret or re shaping worn frets. Imo re shaping is a waste of time. The best is to put new frets. I will not explain why, but thrust me. I've done a lot of fret re shaping...
@lovingpeace97153 жыл бұрын
I spent all this money on having my guitar refretted and setup and then the producer goes and puts a Eventide H3000 on my tracks :D
@ldfox114 жыл бұрын
A professional guitarist uses up fret material much faster than the casual player. If you play for fun in your bedroom, maybe a total of an hour or two a week, then your frets will last a very long time. He wasn't talking to you about needing new frets on every couple of years, so calm down, your frets are fine.
@cugir3214 жыл бұрын
Chinese frets don't last long.....very soft......a couple years with a bedroom player.
@ldfox114 жыл бұрын
@@cugir321 All my guitars have Korean frets but I recently bought a Sheraton II made in China, I guess I'll find out.
@curtpozzi55274 жыл бұрын
If you have regular nickel alloy frets, do not use cobalt treated strings. Those strings are meant for stainless steel frets. You will wear regular frets quicker.
@jasonleblanc-comeau97052 жыл бұрын
My frets say otherwise
@kensmechanicalaffair Жыл бұрын
Not about wear for me.
@albertobarbatotoledo31553 ай бұрын
Man... I agree that when the point of contact wears down it sharpens the note a little bit... but all strait fret instruments are a little bit out of tune anyway... so... I dont think it matters a lot for tunning... and if someone says that can hear the diference but didnt heard before that even the perfetcly leveled and dressed frets are out of tunning because its gonna be anyway with strait frets... well its bullsh1t... if you read this comment and think I am incorrect go search about true temperament guitar... its not a perfect solution but looking at it you will be more aware of the real intonation problems of all freted inatruments
@supernoobsmith5718Ай бұрын
Best tone comes from a wider contact patch, a worn in fret. Bad for intonation, but great tone. NOWADAYS with steel frets, this should be accounted for and built into the fret and fret placement. A very old idea I first thought of the first time I had fretwork done and was dissatisfied with the change in tone and feel. Gibson knows/knew that a flat contact patch makes for a great playing and feeling guitar, have you ever heard of traintrack or schoolbus frets. Gibson did them for YEARS and millions of guitars.
@onlywhenprovoked4 жыл бұрын
I have a quicker tip. Perfect pitch is scientifically impossible to achieve on straight frets. If you have an ear that good, look into those wacky shaped true temperament fretboards. But I get your poiint. If its starting to sound extra sour, it might be time for a recrown. But you'll probably start wearing strings out quick in those spots long before you hear it.
@ragnaroksangel3 жыл бұрын
That's not what the term "perfect pitch" relates to in any way, but okay
@trevorgleave5168 Жыл бұрын
Yep exactly I'm going back to the garage
@heavymetalhero082 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm going stainless Steel. Fix these problems and extend the lifespan of my fretboards. No brainer IMO
@paulcowart31743 жыл бұрын
Healthy vibrato can negate that effect to a point Open chord's would be affected the most one would think
@zippy-zappa-zeppo-zorba-etc4 жыл бұрын
Damn! I got some really worn frets on my favorite guitar. Gotta recrown the frets asap.
@onpsxmember4 жыл бұрын
And polish them to reduce wear.
@muckeelton2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, but I think the diagrams don’t indicate how a string looks when it touches the fret. You would be pushing it down onto the fretboard, so wouldn’t there be a sharper angle on the tuner side? You don’t press on top of the fret - you press up against it, or in between frets, depending on your technique.
@HighlineGuitars2 жыл бұрын
If you could draw some new illustrations that show what you are describing, that would be great.
@muckeelton2 жыл бұрын
@@HighlineGuitars how do I add a drawing or photo? I googled it, but there is no camera icon next to my reply....
@womplestilskin Жыл бұрын
@@HighlineGuitars the wider fret would have a wider (worn) contact area so even with the same fingers pressure, the PSI of the contact area is less and therefore also has slower wear. In other words, only some sort of mechanical testing or advanced physical modelling would be able to say for sure which changes the intonation more over time.
@ZARCULIA3 жыл бұрын
My guitars will ALWAYS, be flattened out quick, i get G string dents that are massive dents in tje first 2 months of a brand new crowning. And my frets look like plateaus quickly also . I totally agree with all your feedback, but i also, know, guitars are an imperfect instrument , and even intonating a guitar, is based on the players finger pressure. You can compensate for heavy fret hand pressure pushing things sharp . I also know, anytime i play a guitar with a buzz feiten nut , its almost sterile, how in tune it is . Its not my thing . I prefer a vintage 62 real strat , with all its flaws .
@hkguitar19842 жыл бұрын
Are you using stainless steel strings? Stainless steel strings are harder than most Nickel Silver Fret wire, as such the frets take a beating in short order. Try switching to vintage Pure Nickel guitar string, they might slow down your fret wear issues.
@J.C...11 ай бұрын
Man I couldn't imagine needing to refret all 6 of my guitars in 3 years.
@adambrandt18584 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you dont press the string down on the fret you press in the middle of the two frets so that picture isnt right the string would be going up from the fretboard and over the fret. And i doubt youd be able to notice the difference with your ears or a tuner.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
Proper technique requires you to press the string down not on the center of the fret nor between two frets, but right next to the fret.
@ldfox114 жыл бұрын
Why do a lot of players say they love fat frets?
@pedronchoxgrc193 жыл бұрын
Because you don't need to press to hard.
@BBGuitars4 жыл бұрын
Given it is going to take microtonal frets, blueprinted to a specific set up, to achieve perfect intonation, this is kind of a moot point!
@lowalkoroc4 жыл бұрын
Eh it's negligible. The guitar is flawed and doesn't have perfect intonation on each fret anyways unless you have True Temperment fretwire system. Either perfectly crowned or flat, it will not be perfectly intune either way.
@Barabyk4 жыл бұрын
True, considering inconsistent downpressure of fretting hand being a factor that shifts pitch up slightly anyway.
@curtpozzi55274 жыл бұрын
Throw some vibrato into the equation while we're at it.
@WolfgangKeim14 жыл бұрын
To have perfect intonation for all notes with normal straight frets on a guitar ist a myth.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
That is correct and is the reason we need to do all we can with what we have.
@johnnypk19634 жыл бұрын
A compensated nut will largely dispel that myth.
@cugir3214 жыл бұрын
@@johnnypk1963 When the frets wear the compensated nut is not valid as much anymore.
@kodykindhart56443 жыл бұрын
Check true temper frets
@miguellemos60338 ай бұрын
The diagram is wrong! The string on the left sife of fret should be going down as the finger presses down the string.
@HighlineGuitars8 ай бұрын
No, the diagram is not wrong. Since I am a left handed player, the diagram is how it will look to me when I look down at the side of the fretboard.
@prestigeroseguitars82453 жыл бұрын
Of course what you're saying is correct. As frets wear, they will decrease the distance from intonation and cause a variance in the natural tone. In reality, the distance of so minute that it becomes irrelevant. The player will make more of a tonal variance based off of how much pressure is exerted on the string with his fingers.
@KoRNeRd Жыл бұрын
BS. Just pressing the fret at a slight angle or pressing with a bit more force would cause much greater intonation differences. On top of all that guitars do not have perfect intonation, you can get closer with temperment frets. Still, the problems above remain.
@JohnFraserFindlay2 жыл бұрын
im a stickler unfortunately LOL!
@thelastgreyhawk2161 Жыл бұрын
More reason to believe jumbo frets (specifically nickel ones) are just the worst
@globalnomad40743 жыл бұрын
Vibrato FIXES EVERYTHING , except that squelchy wet fart,,, you need a well design cork
@billville1113 жыл бұрын
True temperament frets - and then watch this video again
@HighlineGuitars3 жыл бұрын
I have experience with TT frets. And I also know why they never really caught on.
@bocote31193 жыл бұрын
@@HighlineGuitars Would be great if you can explain this on a future video
@HighlineGuitars3 жыл бұрын
@@bocote3119 No need for a video. They never caught on because they are way too expensive and no one can work on them.
@icecreamforcrowhurst8 ай бұрын
If you have a perfectly trained ear and are a stickler for intonation guitar is probably not a good choice for you. Switch to viola instead lol
@adambrandt18584 жыл бұрын
Dude if anything the smaller frets are going to wear down faster.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
Dude, the shift in intonation will still be less with narrow frets than it will be with wider frets.
@zeusapollo86883 жыл бұрын
@@HighlineGuitars mandolin frets
@johnnypk19634 жыл бұрын
I agree w the concept but your illustration is flawed slightly imho. When u fret a note, your finger goes in back of the note being played. So on a worn flat fret the note would be made slightly FLAT, as point of contact would be on the nut side of fret center. Not the bridge side as show in the illustration which would make the note sharp.
@pallecla4 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@HighlineGuitars4 жыл бұрын
That's what the illustration shows. The point of contact on the worn fret is on the nut or tuner side.
@bigdaddyfilmmaker4 ай бұрын
2 thumbs down on this video. Trained ear? Really? C’mon. Plus fix your diagram as nobody frets a note on the wrong side.
@HighlineGuitars4 ай бұрын
In order to give a video two thumbs down, you need to click the thumbs down icon again.
@NicanorVillanueva. Жыл бұрын
imagine replacing frets once per year
@TheMrMRsmoke Жыл бұрын
4:00 luthier attempt to secure more income by telling people to “plan” and budget for a refret
@HighlineGuitars Жыл бұрын
I don’t do refrets.
@ZARCULIA3 жыл бұрын
Totally dislike the tone of stainless frets. I would rather re fret every year , 6100 jumbos , than get stainless.
@squirelova18158 ай бұрын
Aha! So being tone deaf is a clear advantage, just as the man admitted! Who's laughing now?
@Not-Only-Reaper-Tutorials3 жыл бұрын
the G string is a bad student
@Lowclef Жыл бұрын
The instant you play a single note on your guitar you should be planning on replacing every single part of your instrument. If you even touch it, you should be aware that it will begin to sound like trash within 30-45 seconds. So refretting is pretty much a necessity after the first day you buy it new. So just be aware of that. 🤡
@StankoAx7 ай бұрын
Lmao, what a missleading title.
@HighlineGuitars7 ай бұрын
How is it misleading?
@StankoAx7 ай бұрын
I watched the video again, my mistake. You did mention the different wire and the impact.
@HighlineGuitars7 ай бұрын
@@StankoAx No worries! I do the same thing. Maybe KZbin should allow comments only after the viewer has watched the whole video. Twice!
@norbertofrancomartel68922 жыл бұрын
The waste of the frets change the harmonic shinning but the entination you becominng more popist than the pope.