LVL Up Expo - Liquid' Nairo (ZSS) Vs. 2GG | VoiD (Sheik) SSB4 Grand Finals

[@reikostorm]

such an insane set, the level of play was so incredibly high that they both were just losing stocks in mere seconds from one conversion or read. the meta continues to evolve.

[@hitchhikrsguide7522]

Games should really be 3 stocks imo

[@reikostorm]

Jay B 3 stocks would be nice to have but when you are fighting a defensive character like sonic, rosalina etc games can really drag out and its not fun. its unfortunate but its better to have shorter games for sake of the players and tournament schedules.

[@etikalovesminecraft7844]

+iStorm Blaze dabuz vs ranai that would be so long with 3 stocks

[@patrickharris1340]

3 stocks can't exist because Villager vs defensive Rosa exists

[@etikalovesminecraft7844]

+Patrick Harris tournaments would just take longer in general

[@juliancabadas5465]

Great sportsmanship by these two at the end, talking it out and talk about the mistakes and how to improve. I love people like that when I went to Genesis, they were super helpful and I had a blasting fighting them. This is what smash is about.

[@pur3demon0wn]

I like how people say both Sheik and ZSS were dead after their respective nerfs and yet they're still in grand finals

[@Fruitman1997]

Yet still no Bayonetta in GF's. Sure, Bayo's arguably still one of, if not the best character in the game, but her not being commonly in GF's speaks a lot about her.

[@ICKFEARLESS]

ZSS is still top 3 and shiek is top 5. so theyre not completely dead even though they got a good nerf... but come on. the level of play of nairo and void are fucking insane. i bet they could pick up a random character and in a week of practice, dominate for glory players or even some rookie tournament players. theyre gods at this game.

[@pur3demon0wn]

chuy visente For Glory doesn't really count because as long as you know the neutral game, you can pick literally almost any character with very little experience and beat 65-75% of the people on for Glory. But this is why I don't take Tier Lists to heart (or even look at them at this point) because it all depends on the player rather than the character, though finding your character does help. Also "OpenSource" Tier lists can fluctuate a lot, especially with updates and big tournaments swaying the results.

[@ICKFEARLESS]

PureDemon couldnt agree more.. ready for patch 1.1.6 coming out this month?

[@welkingunther4298]

+bowserboy3 Because none of the good players use her. Just wait until people besides Pink Fresh play her consistently.

[@MrMillionDub]

So...Bayonetta's not here.

[@YungGemini]

When stop players besides 9b start using her, we can start crying.

[@iEnjoyApplesauceVeryMuch]

+C Dub Exactly

[@Balthazar2242]

+C Dub She's obviously taken over the meta and broken the game. Just watch this set! Wait...

[@silverun280]

+Marisa Nya what a surprise to see you there, you have good taste in music and games too :3

[@welkingunther4298]

+Steven Bowser Wow, when top players don't play bayonetta, she's not winning tournaments? When crap players play bayonetta, they aren't in grand finals? Wew

[@bugenhagenish]

void's sheik is a work of art

[@Ninjanugets123]

this set literally rekindles my hope for smash 4's competitive scene lol

[@danielrossner3109]

Zamus/Sheik is probably Smash 4's equivalent to Fox/Falco. Nairo and Void are the most explosive characters in Smash 4 and are largely THE reason I watch the game next to ESAM and iStudying, some of the hypest play I've ever seen come out of this game. Both of these, and some players like the ones I mentioned, never let up and make their characters look so fucking QUICK.

[@eveningninja9824]

That was great. Love both Nairo and Void. Such great players

[@Dante7XD]

My two favorite players to watch. They both played so well

[@LtFred]

My two favorite smash players in the Smash 4 scene were duking it out. Freaking loved this set so much!

[@DctrBread]

damn dude. game 5 in 10 minutes? this game is a TO's wet dream

[@Rodaxoleaux]

That third game was terrifying. jesus christ void

[@warnadokasper4778]

I remember when we said Smash 4 was slow, but with the right players and characters its very fast.

[@Goofzillers]

+Sage Hane They most likely changed ledge mechanics because of 8 player. For those that do enjoy 8 player (or even 5, 6, or 7) I think it would make it considerably less fun if the ledge mechanics were the same as Brawl. So instead of making 2 separate ledge mechanics for the game, they made one.

[@boombaam9897]

+Sage Hane I actually like the ledge mechanic, its not so brain dead like the other smash games. You actually got more options in trumping and you don't take easy stocks like before also more competitive the ledge mechanic than the others as well

[@boombaam9897]

+Sage Hane my opinion though

[@megamanX20X]

+warnado kasper PLAYERS make the game slow, not JUST the game itself. Even Brawl was a fast paced game when people like Nairo play it, and of course vice versa with people who play slow.

[@bandie8224]

+Blade Tempest It's also the mechanics and the physics that also determine the pace of the game.

[@zholt7806]

Good God these matches were spectacular. I wish every character was played this thoroughly

[@absoul112]

Happy new patch everyone.

[@mtaylor1237]

What new patch? You mean the maintenance?

[@jaimearocho167]

+absoul112 What Patch?

[@etikalovesminecraft7844]

+Lordbeerus123 wut?

[@absoul112]

a new patch for smash 4 was confirmed today. it will drop at some point this month. I will admit, I saw people talking about it on amino and thought it would be today but it was just an announcement.

[@jaimearocho167]

absoul112 Really? Like not kidding?

[@zholt7806]

Also when Nairo hit the two ducks, he was staling U-air to either make it better for combos or to make other moves more fresh. Or both I suppose

[@geraldsaccount]

dear vgbc, i just wanted to say that i like this way of uploading best

[@Theminimo98]

Game 2 and 3... My god I love void and nairo they're so aggressive and fun to watch

[@Aakos94]

+Mo Hamud Seriously these guys have the most entertaining play styles. So cool to watch them battle

[@justinianga]

This is actually one of my favorite sets in Smash 4 so far. Amazing stuff from both players. Though as an aside, looks like that patch really changed up what we see in grands :p

[@domdaldegan2621]

Its incredible how incredible top players have become in Sm4sh

[@sfhanims]

Their movement is like silk. Very inspiring set

[@Mad_T3]

This triggers Nairo's ZeRo flashbacks.

[@13geeky]

This set was so entertaining to watch, Nairo is so aggressive

[@DKMRFCBrlz]

Let's get this right... Nairo is equal in smash 4 as Mang0 in melee

[@johntitor1619]

True. Both play a reckless, yet effective style.

[@BlazingFireOMEGA]

A grand finals without Bayonneta? Am I missing something?

[@mike-xm2jt]

Did you watch pound?

[@ShiivGaming]

Most U.S. majors haven't had a bayo in grands since the character came out. She's OP but not too OP to sweep most top players.

[@hitchhikrsguide7522]

Bayo is stupid but in majors they know how to deal with her

[@cdose]

+Jay B mad?no need to call her stupid

[@EKirby18]

+Is This The Krusty Krab She is silly, but not broken

[@youfee2393]

Does that sound like ace to any else?

[@miguelkh950]

Really good stuff from both players, close set.

[@jovani6044]

love this. so much. good qualtiy smadh content.

[@FullOfSomething]

why zero scerd?

[@supersonicstep]

he has a hand injury

[@michaeldinh2449]

Void could have eaisily won but the plot armor is too strong

[@gameandflogchannel]

+Michael Dinh perfect description for this set lol

[@TheWagn156]

That was quite possibly the hypest set of smash 4 ive ever seen. Maybe second to nairo's win over zero at mlg. Wish void would have reset it to see them play more, but my boy got that W tho. Congrats Nairo.

[@ryansvicee]

Why isn't this game 3 stocks?

[@mehgamer467]

because fast matches like this are very uncommon. Like this grand finals was ridiculously fast. You have to remember in a tournament with 100 or more players 3 stocks just makes things far too long.

[@mehgamer467]

+MehGamer for pools.

[@yourownprivateidaho8262]

what a fantastic set

[@Vashzaymar]

I like how when they go to zss land nairo demolishes void but when they go to sheikville void 2 stocks nairo and makes it look easy

[@pez4]

And still people don't want 3 stocks? this is too fast!!

[@timmeat32]

Not gonna read through all the comments to see if it's been covered, but it's time for 3 stocks to be the norm

[@mehgamer467]

so you want super long pools? Just because these matches were fast (and had VERY aggresive characters who are fast) doesn't mean pool matches where 100 players or more will be. For locals? Sure 3 stocks wouldn't be bad depending on player count. Nationals? Not at all.

[@ShiivGaming]

We 3 stocks now boys?

[@jediknightfalcon]

3 stocks anyone? no time increase?

[@CReaToRxPR]

Void's extended vanish's are godly

[@mikanalyse]

ZSS/Sheik matchup looks like an awesome DBZ fight though.

[@revenant7709]

pre and post patch. best MU in the game like Fox v Falco in melee xD

[@HBKFAN1414]

God damn why isn't Void sponsored yet???

[@arnold2822]

11 minute grand finals, we really need 3 stocks

[@Chris-dy1cb]

+Fluffy Shark 3 stock matches are hell for pools. games take way too long.

[@HakaishinUri]

that Ness in the background though 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@matildabreence7685]

ZeRo's gotta come back cuz VoiD's sheik is looking like the best right now

[@Sutidamuskun]

game 3, nairo got SHIT ON LMAO

[@iEnjoyApplesauceVeryMuch]

+Suti~Tooti who is lmao, this poor guy?

[@ShinobiEspionage]

+ComputerEaterOne you, I like you

[@Sutidamuskun]

ComputerEaterOne yup, it's my middle name :]

[@heavylobster4339]

+Suti~Tooti Don't let Sheik take you to Smashville.

[@Sutidamuskun]

HeavyLobster43 basically lmao

[@brandonjuno]

Nairo punishes air dodges much better than Void in this set. I think this cost Void game 4 -- maybe it's the adrenaline, or he thinks he can catch Nairo off guard, but he missed a few opportunities to close it out. Well done to both, though. Great set.

[@DineAuZor]

I love so much these players

[@philipplambing9464]

That ZZS combo where Nairo carried him off into the blastzone on duckhunt could have been easily aVioded (the puns) by DIing anywhere but not towards the tree. Could have gobe to set 2 without that tbh.

[@riotv6]

EASILY AVOIDED HAHAHA

[@jafo687]

+Zi How do you know hes very familiar with the matchup? He said in the interview that this tournament was the first time hes played a good ZSS.

[@Zm4rf]

5 games which last 10 minutes... maybe it's time for 3 stocks?

[@ABCDjjw]

VOID'S OUR BOID!

[@haystax864]

did anyone else notice the kid dressed as Ness in the background lol?

[@cjalcasid8730]

First tourney I watched without bayonetta on grand finals

[@tripleknockout]

NAIRO MAH BOI CRUSHIN THESE CHUMPS! to be fair though, Void was on key.

[@morzanthegod3186]

nairo's air dodges are on point. lol

[@OwlsNeck]

Fuck, I knew it was over for VoiD after the first stock on Duck Hunt. Bad counterpick. Great play by both of them though.

[@Luceloupgarou]

LPT Never take Nairo to Duck Hunt holy shit. That is the most optimal ZSS stage ever.

[@illuminaticonfirmed9189]

+Luceloupgarou Nah that was just some horrible DI from Void ... Duck Hunt is no where as good as BF , Dreamland or Town and City

[@ultimate699]

+Illuminati Confirmed VoiD's DI was actually pretty bad this whole set.

[@illuminaticonfirmed9189]

So is most players against ZSS, even prepatch you shouldn't die without rage...... and the iconic ZeRo vs Nairo match at MLG ended with ZeRo having horrible DI

[@revenant7709]

their DI abilities are better than yours dude. Any top ZsS player would destroy your ass in seconds im sure. sometimes is hard to DI against ZsS because she is fast af. If top players sometimes struggles...what would you do better xD ?

[@ultimate699]

Are you assuming my DI isn't as good as theirs?

[@Free4Game]

why is the crowd so lame?

[@theblueraptor5637]

Notice how people are shitting on Sheik and saying that Bayo is the best, yet when has a Bayo won major instead of a Sheik?

[@YungGemini]

I believe VoiD could beat Nairo. Also this set was fantastic.

[@AsianSwagger3]

Does Void plays LoL?

[@illuminaticonfirmed9189]

+GsD_Ahjussi He has said he plays LoL but not sure how often

[@sensei7687]

void my respect bruhhhhh

[@JohnnyPeraltaa]

They complained about Bayo's combo game..... here is Sheik hitting you with forward tilt, forward air and bouncing fish fifty billion times...........

[@TheImpossibleMan]

10:53 Esam's opinions suck

[@revenant7709]

indeed

[@johnleemcmulln2168]

lol TKBreezy that niche baltimore reference haha.

[@nickjohnson4300]

I'm in the background 😊

[@MoufCity]

D1 seemed off this whole top 8.. wheres the homie EE

[@Feelin_DanDy]

4:54-5:17 Disgusting

[@RP-tatari-]

Or beautiful depending on who you ask

[@SaberToob]

VoiD looks like young Muhammad Ali 😂

[@ReidMontgomery95]

G R E A T E S T S E T E V E R

[@irisofrosebloom8741]

"Smash 4 doesn't have kill combos"

[@1001011011010]

"Smash 4 doesn't have combos."

[@jello788]

''smash 4 is not true smash''

[@revenant7709]

Best and most hyped MU in melee: Fox v Falco In smash 4: ZsS v Sheik!! much better than Mario v Diddy or Cloud v Rosalina, those are boring af xD

[@michelangelo8011]

BAN duck hunt stage anyone? -.-

[@userfratedits]

Nairooooooo!!!!!!!

[@jovani6044]

D1 AND TK BREEZY 👍👌

[@TrizollinTehWorld]

Void looks like swiftnade lol sick match

[@ericgeeohate4874]

#speithchocked

[@milton5546]

D1 says so much, and so little at the same time

[@UltimateBlaze40]

first niggga.

[@fence2090]

2nd

[@anklebreaker6959]

4th

[@frederik9195]

5nd

[@yooey]

+LazarusXD 5th, since ur 5nd.

[@MBValentine]

second comment that isn't on another comment

[@hitchhikrsguide7522]

Wow this commentary sucks At least D1 can be good sometimes but there was like no energy here

[@MrTwurtlez]

Grand finals and no one is hype for anything lmao smash 4 is a terrible competitive game

[@SendFoodz]

nairo deserved to win, but void showed how much of a force he is. its like the ending of Creed lmao