Mărășești | A bizarre warship in the Black Sea

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[@iuliandragomir1]

Detective can you find some other "big problems" from your armchair?

[@ChillGuy1.1]

YOO U ARE THE FIRST ENGLISH KZbinR TO SAY THE NICOLAIE CEAUȘESCU PERFECT!

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@ChillGuy1.1 You are crazy! Learn English first!

[@ChillGuy1.1]

@@iuliandragomir1 My bad brother. Yooo you are the first youtuber to say Nicolae Ceaușescu's name right and English aint my first language.

[@ThePeterMann]

You dont learn if you never build anything. So good effort Romania.

[@EmilNicolaiePerhinschi]

That was the point of building it. Romania is now building warships for other countries.

[@VladVlad-ul1io]

@@EmilNicolaiePerhinschi really???

[@agradina]

u are so smart.thats from the cycle winter is not like summer .

[@Brukner841]

@@VladVlad-ul1io Dutch these days mostly

[@veneps]

@@VladVlad-ul1io yes, Damen shipyard being one of them

[@gheoman]

The capability of a nation to build and use a warship is very important and demonstrates power to it's neighbours. When Mărășești were leaving the Romanian shore for a training mission the other countries navy forces arround the Black Sea were in alert state, no one afforded not to consider that. Romanian Navy is quite experienced, in ww2 the first "Moskva" ship was sunk near our shores, we had, 3 submarines and 3 destroyers(one named also Mărășești). In Galați shipyard we had built 2 U-boat submarines under German licence and plans, for Romanian Navy Forces, so here we have experienced engineers. Germany delivered for this job, parts and sub-anssemblies. Of course some warship builders from UK or other European builders can laugh but they really don't enjoy competition, they only have a "superior" bad attitude as always, as similarly US disrespect Chinesse Navy for example.

[@tonyterracotta2165]

that's super cool what are your sources? I want to read more about our navy during ww2 :D

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

May I correct you. Romania has never built any submarines for the German Kreigsmarine and its own submarines were built in Italy.

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

May I correct you. Romania has never built any submarines for the German Kreigsmarine and its own submarines were built in Italy.

[@gheoman]

@@georgevladimirovich7190 Yes the 2 submarines named Rechinul(The Shark) and Marsuinul wasn't built for German Navy but for Romanian Navy, they were assembled in Galati shipyard using plans and parts from Germany by Romanian Engineers. These two served very little for Romania when were finished at the end of wwII, 1944-45 being taken as new(say stolen better) by USSR as spoils of war for Romanians fighting against them. The 2 submarines were very modern for that days, much more then soviet ones, so they inspired to build their new fleet. Still in that year in service Rechinul saved many German and Romanian lives during evacuation from Crimea peninsula.

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

​@@gheoman You know something but not quite everything. During the 2nd world war Romania had three regular size submarines and five midget submarines made in Italy. Delfinul (the Dolphin) was built entirely in Italy where it was commissioned under the command of Bibi Costachescu, whom I had the honor to have him as a Math Teacher when enrolled as an officer cadet at the Marine Institute in Constanta. The other two submarines, Rechinul (the Shark) and Marsuinul (The Porpoise) were bult in Romania but thier late entry into service prevented them from any action. The evacuation from Crimea was supported by the Romanian navy surface vessels protecting large convoys of merchant ships. My father was in command of such ship. There is no indication that Rechinul or Marsuinul participated in this operation. Finally, having technology confiscated as "spoils of war" is not considered stealing. The victorious parties regardless the country are doing this since it is their prerogative. No finally, USSR looked at the Romanian technology which is normal, but they had their own based on which they developed an impressive navy in the Black Sea, in the Baltic as well as later during the cold war. I know the Romanian mentality towards Russia but maybe the time has came to pay attention to what Napoleon himself recommended; Know the qualities of your enemy if you want to win.

[@1zanglang]

For all the people who can't understand why this warship exists: Ceaușescu and his government realized almost 6 decades ago, what Turkey realized 2 decades ago: that it was necessary to develop indigenous defense industry and build own military systems. Turkey, did it admirably. We quite failed. Romania did what it was possible while caught in the middle of the Cold War. Even if it was a member of the Warsaw Treaty, Romania had a different international policy, than the other members. And after the USSR intervention in Czechoslovakia, in 1968, denounced and opposed by Romania, USSR considered us as potential enemies like the nations from NATO. We were allies only on paper.

[@iuliandragomir1]

This warship exist to have some mighty navy in Black Sea. Instead Russians fishing vessels!

[@1zanglang]

@@iuliandragomir1 Iulică, ia, zi pe românește, ca să înțeleg și eu ce vrei să spui.

[@DuZori]

It was a succes of its generation. This was the first project if its kinde made by our industry. It wasnt a serial product. It was a demonstration of what that industry is capable to do. It had multiple functions: a real working product to be shown to other potential partners for future projects, a real life test for the industry to see where it real is, a real test platform to provide data for next versions. After 2 or 3 generations you can say it is ok or not. How was the first american destroyer? How was the first american sub or jet? How was the first english frigate or first sub or first jet? Did they stop there? Were those a faild products? If they would stop on first version, then yes. As first product designed and made in that period It was more than a success. It is until nou a fail project just because the next generation of engineers, leaders etc didnt continues to develop, improve and implement the next iteration.

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@1zanglang Da si tu translate !

[@1zanglang]

@@iuliandragomir1 Aha... Engleză, nu știi, nici cu limba română nu ești prieten...

[@johnr3599]

Nice video. The history of this ship must be understood in a wider context in which Romania tried to distance itself from the Soviet Union during that period. The Romanian communist leaders created a national defense industry that produced armaments, tanks, planes and warships with domestic resources. On the other hand, Romania has a tradition in the construction of civilian ships. At the end of the 80s, Romania had a commercial fleet of over 300 ships, being the fourth largest in Europe and the 9th in the world. Commercial ships were built in Romanian shipyards. These shipyards also produced small-class (corvettes) and medium-class military ships, such as the Muntenia / Marasesti. Nowadays, the Marasesti Frigate is operational and has performed missions in the Mediterranean Sea and the Gulf of Aden.

[@ares1634]

To start something is half done thing. Marasesti was a good base to learn from mistakes and build a Romanian navy on it. Should mention also the over 300 commercial vessels and oil tankers built in Romania, during Ceausescu. The 4th commercial fleet in the world, sent to scrap by the soviet agents who came to power after revolution.

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

Why always the Soviet agents? The destruction of the Romanian merchant fleet was done by the Romanians themselves. Traian Basescu, whom I know personally, has never been a Soviet agent (rather an agent of the Romanian state security) however he participated in the demise of the Romanian merchant fleet.

[@ares1634]

@@georgevladimirovich7190 Why always twist the subject in a soviet way? Basescu was not a soviet agent and he sold nothing. During his time Romania enterted the EU and NATO. Soviet agents were proven to be those who hijacked the Romanian revolution, like Iliescu, Voiculescu, Roman, etc and the reactivated generals, who sold, closed down and destroyed a well developed, independent country. Vasile, Nastase, Tariceanu, Ponta, Dancila later. They all sold whatever Romania had valuable or internationally worthy and competitive, like heavy industries, steel and chemical industries, oil, gas, gold and mining of rare minerals etc. Romania produced more chemicals than all other east European countries combined, except the Soviet Union and few times more steel than today. Anywhere in the civilized world such deeds would equate for high treason.

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@georgevladimirovich7190 You are right! Basescu was also involved! If you know him tell us how he dismissed al the fleet!

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

@@iuliandragomir1 iuliane, povestea este lunga; de fapt prea lunga pentru a fi pivestita aici. Iti pot spune multe despre Basescu. Am fost impreuna si in Institutl de Marina, Mircea ce Batrin.

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@georgevladimirovich7190 Pai chiar ar fi interesant sa aflam si noi ceva amanunte. Nu tot ca stiu ca nu se poate dar macar un pic!

[@georgebadea4138]

It would be very surprising for you to hear that Romania is building army ships for some respectable naval forces as Holland and Danemark but not any for his own national navy.

[@traianmusatescu7191]

yea, Damen shipyards

[@maudcls5610]

We don't have opening to oceans so no point in this for us. We require bolstering the air superiority.

[@bholdr----0]

Even if the result was a bit of a white elephant, Chaucescu's (sp?) insistence on using only domestic design served as more than a vanity project- it helped to develop homegrown talent, skills, and infrastructure that would make the country less dependent on the USSR. Many nations do this, including the US, etc. (think France's domestic nuclear armament and nuclear power industry, for example- and likewise the importance of an independent defense industry, etc )

[@Uturn999]

true.. the French are pissed that they cannot sell their Rafale fighter, where they wish due to having some US made systems onboard... and the US denying the re-sale The most recent situation were a country fudged-up by heavily depending on a 3-rd party would be rusia: Naval engines: imported from Ukraine, Germany post 2014 .. Aviation engines (helicopters and jets) : Ukraine.. Aviation Suites and Components: the World... now they have restarted IL-76 production... Fire Control Systems (land and aviation) were using 3-rd party components... It was cheaper then developing them.. so now they are back removing cobwebs and restarting production of gear from the '70 - 80`s. Oil-GAS : They are highly dependent on Western tech (Siemens turbines, etc)

[@bholdr----0]

@@Uturn999 Good points. I appreciate your detailed post, even if I don't agree 100%. (Maybe 90%? Good examples, btw) For my (minor) counters, I think it is rudimentary that any integrated defense relationship doesn't necessarily require or indicate the dependence of one acto/)party/state upon another, and the leverage that comes with it. A better way to look at such international defense relations is as a symbiotic (if not always equal) partnership... Anyway, Cheers!

[@louies6914]

@@Uturn999 Dassault Rafale is going to be sold to Serbia, a country known for its pro-Russian attitude, so what the hell are you talking about?

[@Kannot2023]

A small country cannot support development of own weapons.

[@bholdr----0]

@@Kannot2023 Well... As far as national self defense capacity and the efficacy of doctrine... Yes and no. Almost any country can produce small arms, often even light armored vehicles (think MRAPs, etc), and even capable warships (India, Pakistan, etc.).. and it is in their interest to maintain such capabilities (see, for example Of course, the independent ability to field things like top-end fighter jets, carrier(s) with nuclear propulsion, and SSNs and SSBNs are out of the question for all but the FOUR nations who had/have the ability and will to design and build such great power systems independently of allies, etc (and Russia and China are still decades behind the US (and the USSR that was), who used to be tier-two, though competitive for their purposes and capabilities... which is why China still uses Russian engine designs in almost all of their military aircraft!) The fourth is France, btw., which is the ONLY European nation capable of building modern fighters without international dependencies (meaning from the US), right? (Safran, etc)... Such is almost, or likely, more difficult than even their completely independent nukes and ICBMS to procure and credibly maintain. (See: Tejas, Lavi, Gripen (Sweden, for example is not capable of designing and producing too-emd turbojets- China, too, though the CCP is catching up), and so on... ...And the foregoing is not even mentioning the US' massive advantage in capital (the most important and dangerous) ships! (And I am NOT talking about Carriers, which are NOT capital ships!) The bottom line is that every nation with a pretence of sovereignty must have a domestic arms industry to some degree, both to be able to supply themselves and to afford such, insofar as they are able to... (Though France has always been ready to bite the cost bullet to continue to have an independent top-tier set of capital ships- The closest (non-russian) equivalent to the US) is the French second strike MAD deterrent, especially considering their.... Non-standard doctrine!! (The 'warning shot' doctrine! Look it up, it is scary AF, but makes a little t of sense for nations with less than 599-ish warheads... Yikes!)

[@voiculiviu9130]

At 6:52 , the draught of the vessel is not 7.0m but that's actually the moulded depth. Draught as per information available is abt. 3.60m. F111 Marasesti is NOT decommissioned. She is still in active service as of August 2024.

[@minhmeo9506]

Romanian parents: we already have Sovremenny-class destroyer at home. Sovremenny-class destroyer at home:

[@habahan4257]

🤣🤣

[@claudiuparvulescu2007]

​@@habahan4257 I bet, you don't know nothing about this ship. 😂😂😂😂

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@claudiuparvulescu2007 Nope! He is a russian troll who is going fishing in Black Sea!

[@donbosco4746]

We are very proud and very hospitable people! During Communist times we build Ships Planes Locomotives and Trucks and Cars! We also built Tanks and Rockets launchers! We have Latin blood! We are surrounded by Slavic people! We have Serbia Bulgaria and Poland as friends! We also have some Slavic blood in us do to mix ! All we need is Peace and prosperity for our Nation!

[@decemvre]

All this pointless criticism and this ship is still in better condition than the Moskva. Also, Russia has failed to launch an invasion from the Black Sea against Ukraine so some of your assumptions are also bullsht.

[@cbalano]

First time viewer of this channel. I am not sure where the reporter takes his information from, but I was impressed with the accurate summary of the Romanian history and constraints (I am Romanian native). Subscribed.

[@BuGBurnout]

Love the MacGyvered diacritics xD And thank you for the history lesson

[@mosesracal6758]

In a war, the Romanian Navy will just be sitting targets for the USSR yes, but in a standoff? Having a "powerful" ship in the vicinity will be enough to keep the Romanians in the game as diplomatic talks happen in the background. Especially now as the Black Sea is becoming an even more hostile space due to the war, just having a "powerful" naval presence will be enough to make the Russians play nice in the Black Sea. I live in the Philippines and we now experience first hand the failings of not having a "powerful" navy to deter does to one''s national sovereignty if one starts bullying - we have a Mutual Defense Treaty with the US since our independence. We thought that was surely enough to deter any foreign powers to invade our territory. We dont even share a land border with anyone. What's the result? We are now powerless against the PLAN. Romania did good in securing a powerful navy for itself - how it did so, maybe is just the problem.

[@iuliandragomir1]

USSR? Long time ago. Now they have "submarine Navy" and a few fishing boats!

[@elacme626]

USSR? what year are you living in dude? 😆

[@mosesracal6758]

@@elacme626 In the context of when the cruiser was built - that was the main threat and the reason why it was built

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@elacme626 In the year of Putin! Is not the same ? Russia= USSR just changing the flag!

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

@@iuliandragomir1 You sound like the ones from 1990's when barking that Russia is finished. Never be so sure.

[@piergaay]

Any country with a harbour of coast where one can land needs a navy. Sure Romania did realise ths as well. The succes of a navy ship depends very much on what it did do could do and what effect it did have. Even as a symbol it still can be a succes as the spirit of marines (which are all the sailors in a navy) is enhanced by it.

[@johnpaulsteeler]

Ceaușescu, even though he was a megalomaniac, was no fool. During the mid-1980s, he ordered priority to coastal radars, missile defense systems, and coastal air force readiness. Romania back then used to have even a submarine, the "Delfinul" (the dolphin) purchased from the former Soviet Republic of Ukraine, even though Romania lacked access to the latest naval technology. A missile testing site from that time was built in Topraisar, Constanța County, located not far from the U.S. (NATO) base (playground) and rebuilt in the late 2000s

[@razvananghel7492]

Romanian here, this ship is not as bad as this guy makes it out to be. It's been heavily modernized over time and today is a decent ship. Nothing crazy, thats true but not that bad either. It's an ocean going ship... as in truly can cross the Atlantic while fully armed and with a helicopter on deck, not a lot of modern frigs or corvettes can do that. I do believe we should stop spending money on it anymore and focus the funds in acquiring new ships but thats a different story

[@mosesracal6758]

Imagine you cant fire a on stable sea conditions AND its a cruiser - literally designed for BLUE WATER OFFENSIVE ACTIONS. (Dont even get me started on not having Anti-Ship radar in the first place). Its like buying a missile but you cant fire it because the guidance system is busted up and your expected to fight in CQC.

[@razvananghel7492]

@@mosesracal6758 all the ship's problems have been fixed long ago. And it's now fitted with state-of-the-art radars and being part of the AEGIS defense system. "Marasesti" is a very good anti-submarine and radar platform. Imagine being so dumb believing what this nobody who made the video has to say on YT while knowing fck all. But go ahead believe that, nobody cares anyway and its for the best if you think this ship sucks.

[@iuliandragomir1]

In the meantime Romania has build warships for others! I wander why we can't build our ships in Constanta Galati and Mangalia. I know the answer. Damen! The bug who destroyed our naval construction sites for profit! Thank's Holland! BTW in Black Sea now Marasesti is the biggest, Russians have only sailboats!

[@philippepanayotov9632]

Greetings from Bulgaria! Romania and Bulgaria were building a lot of stuff back in the days. ROMAN trucks, Dacia, and the Supersonic wind tunnel (capable of 3.0 Mach), are stunning for me. Respect!

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

Russia has only sailboats? Go and chase them, see what happens.

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

@@philippepanayotov9632 Bulgaria was able to build many things during those times, including large merchant ships plus it had the most developed computers industry supported by Teodor Jivkov himself.

[@traianmusatescu7191]

dont be silly now.

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@traianmusatescu7191 Why?

[@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995]

Romania should form a partnership in the naval area with Yugoslavia due to the experience and work done on the Orao/Vutuer fighter Number one weapon detective

[@DanSlotea]

Yugoslavia is gone for decades. What are you on?

[@gheoman]

@@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995 What "experience" has, Serbia (Yougoslavia doesn't exists anymore), in building warships? since they are only a small continental nation without sea border?

[@ardanard-jh5fg]

@@gheoman Uiti ca pe timpul Iugoslaviei aveau iesire la mare. Si n-a trecut asa de mult timp de atunci.

[@gheoman]

@@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995 Serbian hates NATO, and is close to Russia, how can we collaborate?

[@matovicmmilan]

@@gheoman The Serbs hate America & its NATO blind followers for a clear reason, but not Romania, on the contrary - we like the Romanian people and we're proud to have a long-lasting friendly relations with you. One of the most important things for us is - freedom, including the freedom of making decisions for us on our own. The Americans openly dictate both the foreign and internal politics of their NATO "allies". This is a clear subjugation and such relationship is pathological. We are also proud of our centuries-long friendship with the Russians but we've never allowed them to dictate our politics & they've always respected it.

[@serbang277]

Not sure what your native language is, but your pronounciation is very good!

[@ciprianganea759]

Marasesti is more than that. First of all, it is a training center and a testing platform. The Romanian navy has met with the Russian or Ottoman navy before and the numbers prove that the Romanians kept them away from the shore with strategists, skillful maneuvers, adaptability, resilience, tenacity and wisdom: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Navy_during_World_War_II Unfortunately, most of the stories with the Ottomans or with the central powers in WW1 are in Romanian and I'm too lazy to translate them, but the balance of forces is similar and the results the same (in 1877, with one motorboat and two sloops, the Romanians managed to get the Ottomans out of on the Danube sinking two ironclads of almost 500 tons each and in WW1 with a motorboat, the same used 36 years earlier, the Romanian navy managed to force the fluvial fleet of the central powers to retreat upstream in Hungary).

[@akmon3490]

It's not about the size , it's how you use it , as long as they fight you on your terms they are at a disadvantage, just like how during WW2 the Japanese had a shim with an oversized turret destroyed cause they got tricked into an unfavorable position and sunk

[@Nethertar]

The best warship is the one that leaves a nice summer feeling into your heart. - a romanian

[@WildBillCox13]

Interesting. Well worth a like.

[@iuliandragomir1]

Armament: - 4 instalaţii lansare rachete navă - navă; - 2 instalaţii tragere artileristice navale, calibru 76,2 mm; - 4 instalaţii tragere artileristice antiaeriene, calibru 30 mm; - 2 instalaţie lansare torpile antisubmarin, calibru 533 mm; - 2 instalaţii lansare proiectile bruiaj pasiv; - 2 instalaţie lansare bombe antisubmarine; - 8 sisteme radar. So is almost well equiped. Old but strong enough!

[@frednoname3714]

THX !! Very good vid ! The ship is like Roumania you said very well ! Hardly fallait hunder Ottomans, and USSR and even ROME ...it was DACIA where Rome bought gold jewellery due to ppl skills and gold, very catholic ( LAST catholic from rome empire, think didn't even attached to Constentinople) AND they are NOT SLAVISH !!! They stayed "ROMAN" so even Staline could hardly do something there. Caucescu was hawfull but an Angel compared to Enver HOXHA in Albania ...closiest ultra Stalinist facile Italy.... So the ship us as bizarre as Roumania ! Thx for living everything BRAVO !

[@matovicmmilan]

Good.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

I misread it as Maserati and I was thinking :"Damn, these people have good taste."

[@robertnegotei3495]

I am romanian, personally I think we don't need frigates, a few corvettes and subs maybe but our main focus should be mobile ground and air based anti ship missiles

[@mariamihailescu928]

Submarines, yes, we need submarines to protect the offshore oil rigs.

[@frankchan4272]

Back then when the Soviet had a serious fleet in the Black Sea, but now under the Russian flag it is barely able to defend itself forget projecting power. The Ukrainian, a country that doesn’t have a functioning navy, sunk & damaged several Russian naval ships.

[@Idontreallyknow-i7t]

Oh really? 👀

[@John.S.Patton]

What is woth you people who keep saying ukraine doesn't have a navy? I bet you have TDS.

[@shaun469]

So only a navy can sink a navy?

[@puzzled012]

you do not need navy to project power in Black Sea. you need airforce and/or missiles, that is it!

[@Idontreallyknow-i7t]

@@puzzled012 what about hypersonic missiles? *sounds of crickets*

[@yarmud]

Nice

[@luci75d76]

Was a great ship with a great power projection. In the video was saying was not so bright because it did not have the know how. But was done at high standards because they reverse engineer many things what the west have , the ship use to have best radio penetration and communication devices. All home made but copy of western thing. Many things from western countries are in fact on this ship as technology since it’s inception time bust was copy and even enhance in capability by the Romanian engineers. For some items even much better than the west have. Anti submarine detection systems was the best in Black Sea. Even the Russians did not have the technology at that time that’s why the ship has lateral torpedo launchers ….you did good in the video but not so precise some informations. The ship in fact was much better than you describe it in your video

[@AlexNovakim]

Cool video, I didn't know all that stuff about marasesti! I still wish you would link your sources tho

[@habahan4257]

I love the channel. Only you make videos about such little-known systems. Thanks

[@entropy_of_principles]

I don't understand why the creator of this channel consider that was a bad ideea, it's a very true force in the Black Sea area, we have also a lot of oil rigs in the sector whom have to be protected, maybe not be upgraded at some time with a long range anti-air and anti-ship missiles, but is areal true force, can maintain a real capability to be as mother ship to a naval group, have a quite good radar and a electronic equipment, also have a good infrared long range camera for navigate in harsh conditions. ..it's only a matter of a little upgrade.

[@napraznicul]

It's simple, he believe was a bad idea because his "empire country" needs to sell own obsolete ships to a new slave country which are led by puppetts installed by their special services... that's why.

[@mosesracal6758]

Its a bad idea simply because it was too expensive to develop for the role it was supposed to do. Cruisers are usually for Blue-Water Navies. The Romanian Navy will barely even go to the Mediterranean, much less go to either the Atlantic or Indian Ocean. Money wouldve been better spent if the dictator spent it on more destroyers and shore batteries.

[@entropy_of_principles]

@@mosesracal6758 ....and how soviet ruzzyian keep in this "shalow" water the moskva cruiser ( ?!!l) which brave Ukrainians sunk it ? ...moskva was very big... maybe you have to go to the library again to learn much more before posting stoopid things

[@ShrekMeBe]

How could I say this politely to the russian accented narrator?! The navy was not created in case of a NATO invasion but from something coming from the sea. Guess who was there :D

[@entropy_of_principles]

@@ShrekMeBe exactly, but this guy is prone to "believe" in aliens, maybe too many videos make him brainless

[@CosminPanaete]

Thanks!

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your support

[@4xRomania]

the first dutch full electric ship was newly build at galati , its a RORO , soon tanks and warships will be build in house I know I used to work as an engineer in Constanta shipyard and abroad on commercial vessels

[@costelbanasu6447]

she was built due to Warsaw pact. Same reason we bought the submarine from Russia . Diesel , as Romania was against nuclear tech. Useless as sea bottom is too high for a proper submarine use. Our defense strategy was based on totally different factors , but we were forced by Soviet . Marasesti was a cruiser , I was there when Ceausescu cut the ribbon. Most turrets and other weapons were taken from submarine hunters . The rocket pens were made of cardboard , to look good for Ceausescu 🙂

[@costelbanasu6447]

and more ! You see... Romania used to export food for around 60 million people in USSR. It was a barter trade , in exchange for various USSR products. But , at certain moment , URSS started to ask money for technology , was no longer willing to barter for food products. Ceausescu was already engaged to pay back all the external debts to West. So , money started to be scarce. He got the idea of why to buy from URSS instead of building by internal forces. The outcome ...is what you say !

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

Ref: "Diesel , as Romania was against nuclear tech. " - BS For a fleet operating along the near coastal shores, no country will invest in a nuclear powered submarine. In addition to this, nuclear powered vessels are allowed to transit through Bosporus according to the Montreuil convention.

[@costelbanasu6447]

@@georgevladimirovich7190 against nuclear tech in weapons . We had and have other applications for nuclear tech. But , during one of last Communist Congress , Ceasuescu was little bit exalted and said ... Romania can produce everything including nuclear bombs if we want ! I think this was the beginning of the end for him !

[@georgevladimirovich7190]

@@costelbanasu6447 Here we are talking about nuclear powered ships; not nuclear power bombs. The end of President Ceushescu came for several reasons. His ideas of nuclear bombs was only one of them.

[@lxlx3458]

Better than nothing...

[@boborenebobo]

"has very charming lines" kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJzFlq2apcx_hbs best part of whole video! Well, I think in Black Sea now Marasesti is the biggest ship ...

[@comentedonakeyboard]

The Romanian Economy allready suffered, severely, before Caucescu was overthrown.

[@DuZori]

Now we are eaven worse. We lost the human resource, lost time, lost the facilities and plus we have 180 billions external debts. We will never be able to create such a projects. We will be able just buy on credit.

[@MB-fo1yh]

@@DuZori We already had issues at the start of 90s. Universities that were supposed to create new engineers had lab equipment from 60s (still used in 2000). Factories were already 20-30 years behind the west. Teaching methodologies and most teachers in technical universities were oriented toward theory not practical applications. You cannot create generations of engineers based on theory only. The fall of communism just exposed huge issues and continuing to elect the same communists since 1990 until today just kept the same mafia in power, just making things more visible. We have freedom, but the same communists are still in power by the choice of the people.

[@DuZori]

@@MB-fo1yh now universities are worse than 89. They dont have any equipment 😂😂😂. Today our universities have a lower rank in the international hierarchy than was befor 89. Worse than this, quality of the teachers and students is inferior comparing with period before 89. Regarding factories this is partialy true partialy false. But this was not an obstacle for other countries. Now we dont have eaven those factories behind 10 years.

[@MB-fo1yh]

@@DuZori Sorry, but technical universities are now equipped. Compared to what was in the early 2000s today is luxury. Teachers and teaching is another problem: during 90s and early 2000 Abramburica (one the commies elected and praised by people) made sure to destroy education system and to keep it inline with the communist party line. Don't blame democracy and west for our bad understanding of freedom and desire to keep communist leadership (ie steal like in communist times and try to live like in the west).

[@louies6914]

@@DuZori you are just telling partial truth. We managed to build Piranha 5 locally, the armored monocoque is welded at Damen, the UT30 Mk2 is made with components from ELMET Bacau and A/E International Bacau, electrooptic systems from Pro Optica and Electro Optic Systems Magurele with final integration at Elbit Magurele and Uzina Mecanica Bucuresti.

[@dorian33]

Bizarre or not untill Romania start a new navy program is usefull in case of conflict . However i don"t see not even a nato frigate in Black sea to help us in case , except turkish ones . We tried to build new corvetes but naval group did not decide to start his job . Next leap renounce to big ship and build fast small ones . We already have 15-20 1994 fast ships .

[@mariamihailescu928]

Turcii sunt cu fundul în două luntre, că să folosesc o analogie acvatică

[@sugipulaboule9]

Pay CASH EVERYWHERE you go people, NEVER use the plastic or your toy

[@GalațiGlobal]

Ai licență? Daca nu ai sau nu ai bani ieși depe KZbin cu vrăjeală ăsta său stai liniștit că belele o sa ai... Pt că copii citesc în română și pt nu își dau seama că tu habar nu știi despre ce spui... Sau vorbește cu Siri că SRI te ascultăaaaaa

[@dipimage1935]

You can also add ONE submarine

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Trust me there were more then a few plans to move the damn thing a another super port in Brittaiin to to rebuild it from scratch in 2004, hell we would trade it in for several Liberity class frigates,

[@mihaiasavoaie8096]

A kynda-class, soviet light cruiser.

[@MihaiAz]

Very good video ❤

[@romyhezser7630]

I strongly disagree with the "gentleman" who have made this video......Any country who has an opening to a sea or ocean and has territorial waters should also have the ability to defend it, and if you have a navy fleet you also need warships!!!

[@contyoutufication]

for the future Romania will not be able to compete or fight against a bigger russian fleet and as a nation in my opinion we should copy the us plan for taiwan... the porcupine strategy wiith coastal anti ship defence, anti air and and long range water surface drones like ukraine has... that coastal anti ship strategy was good also when ussr tried to invade through black sea and was defeated during ww2... as a result, when russians entered romania through land they killed the soldiers of the naval force as a revenge... romania as a naval force should rely more on having many stealthy submarines than surface ships for naval projection... that is just my opinion...

[@olariudan]

I think you know the make better ships .But in a fight Mărășești can mxke difrences .We hava a very old submarine Delfin , was scary for Russia

[@deceneudeceneu8908]

Sadly we romania make at galati war sphip for norway etc but our treitor guvern psd better do not buy anithing, like development tr

[@tomyjunyor]

Care este singura tara din lume care a platit dadoriI

[@gheoman]

You should make a similar presentation movie for our jet project IAR93 Vultur(Eagle), IAR95, IAR99 Soim (Hawk) and last IAR99SM, (modernized variant 2024), kzbin.info/www/bejne/mISZgaSEhJ18edU

[@WeaponDetective]

We already have an IAR-93 video. We hope you will enjoy it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6fGXqxueLSghLM

[@dragosserban3879]

1:02 Statement not true. Romania had major investments within late 19th century, most of them French and British build warships.

[@tavg4941]

Nava a fost foarte buna.. dar la o aplicatie in mediterana i a suparat pe francezi care nu au putut performa ...

[@traianmusatescu7191]

ba tagv de unde iesiti toti soscarii

[@iuliandragomir1]

La ce aplicatie te referi?

[@chiwide100]

A fost bună... dar trăgea într-o parte... când trăgea 👀

[@iuliandragomir1]

@@chiwide100 Ha ha! alt hater!

[@tavg4941]

@@iuliandragomir1 la aplicația din Mediterana în care marina noastră a fost invitată să participe cu forțele NATO

[@nuperaa6617]

What mighty Russian fleet?

[@darius_alex2043]

The Soviet one. During that time the Black Sea fleet wasn’t the shit it now is.

[@HypHipHop]

I stopped counting how many times you said the word Romania. Get better at writing your text or do something else but not documentary .

[@solooverland3666]

Can you believe this documentary about a Romanian ship, politics, economy and technology not once mentioning giraffes, hamburgers, the color yellow, or Australia???

[@georgealin2177]

RABLA

[@RomanianReaver]

Dumb takes on the naval side of things. Yeah the Romanian navy couldn't do dick against the full might of the soviet navy but in world war 3, if it happened, having some ships is very useful as, as the Romanians showed in both world wars and the Ukrainians have shown in the current naval fuckery in the Black Sea, ingenuity and capability to use limited resources can often have them return much more than they should be doing. In my view buying obsolete 2nd rate western ships, tanks and planes is the single stupidest investment the Romanian Navy, Army and Airforce has done since they opted not to develop further the Mig-29 Sniper or the TR-125 because it makes us dependent on western support to have what to shoot back and as Ukraine, funnily enough again, shows: Doing so gets your people killed. In my view the Mig-29 Sniper should've had a couple of examples set aside for reverse engineering and developing our own infrastructure to repair, support and, even, build new Mig-29s or improved derivatives, the TR-125 should've been taken, manufactured and improved with Polish and Czech knowhow over time (maybe nicking some ideas from the Kharkov insane design bureau too) and The Marasesti should've been upgraded in terms of weaponry (swap the 2x 76s with some otomelaras, get better Russian missiles for the anti-ship functions, look into improving the CIWS via domestic gunnery improvements as well and maybe scrap the heli deck for a VLS installation for air defense and take all those steps and knowledge derived from them into newer ships and improving existing ones). And yeah, I am nationalistic in view here because, to be frank, because the moment you slave your military, fundamentally, to one nation or another's expertise you're surrendering part of your national independence for the ease of buying someone else's hand me downs and honestly... it's one of the few things Israel has done right since it was created even if their military's quite literally fucked without western support in terms of ammunition because they can, at least, build the things using said ammo 0 to 100%.

[@mosesracal6758]

The Ukranian Navy fights without a ship. He is not criticizing the Romanian Navy, its the existence of this cruiser thats the problem. The Romanian Navy has no real need for a ship designed for blue water operations when it is supposed to only protect a coastline that is inside what is basically a lake. Its like building a large heavy tank force when your country is situated in rugged mountains and hills with barely any infrastructure. THAT is the problem.

[@RomanianReaver]

@@mosesracal6758 Actually the Ukrainians still have ships they just tend to use them as motherships for drones, fuckup nr 1, fuckup nr 2 the shittier logic you just used to argue the Marasesti isn't worthwhile by arguing "why have blue water capabilities" when multiple parts of the black sea count AS BLUE WATER. Get out of here as you sound like a simp which is sad considering this YTer's a dude.

[@entropy_of_principles]

...I'm unsubacribe from this bullshits spreading here, this maker of video not telling to the audience very important thing, the military naval history behind Marasesti, Romania have a very very long tradition of building military and commercial vessels, how you can describe a subject without a history behind ? ...what tells this ? ...an incomplete or weak documentation or lazy work. ...

[@WeaponDetective]

Bye

[@entropy_of_principles]

@@WeaponDetective ....weak video, and weak documentary

[@garethjones4742]

​@@entropy_of_principlesweak comment.

[@entropy_of_principles]

@@garethjones4742 ...you did not like ? ...because you are biased with this garbage channel unfortunatelly for you and him, me personal if I made a short documentary I'll be more specific, also presented the history behind and unsuccesful attemps, but here is a comedy of errrors , a lazy video, a small wash brain, it was this "weak" for you mister ?

[@entropy_of_principles]

@@garethjones4742 ...like you....weak and insignificant

[@alexeidragunov4534]

Its now useless better spend the navy on air power

[@ThePilot4ever]

The name of the ship was likely written by a pen with too much ink in it

[@tepesvoda464]

It is the name of a major WWI battle, when the Romanians won the only allied victory in 1917.

[@mihaisabin2363]

​@@tepesvoda464 nit only the name of the battle, but also the place of the battle. That name is a Romanian pride as is the Thermophile for Greeks.

[@DanSlotea]

Likely you have no knowledge to make this comment 😂😂

[@entropy_of_principles]

..and in the past we have built submarines, a german license, and many destroyers, and more vessels, why you did not mention them ? ..what kind of research do if a guy like me have to complete your documentary ? ....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian-built_warships_of_World_War_II

[@WeaponDetective]

We are talking about the time around when the Marasesti was created. Since many vessels built in WWII had already been decommissioned in this period, we did not mention them. They were irrelevant. As we say, at that time the biggest surface combatant of the Romanian Navy was the Poti-class.

[@entropy_of_principles]

​@@WeaponDetective ....is relevant because show to the audience the history behind, a good creator come with this important thing, otherwise is just bullshit(s) video. ...as your wife, when you marry her, you have to know her "history"..., if doesn't matter to you, then you are an idiot, anything is connected to the past have its importance.

[@MrQ454]

those submarines were Dutch license. Also he is wrong about naval industry in Romania, which was developed enough in time of Ceausescu. Now there is at least the Damen Shipyards Galati which build military navies. Of course Romania need ships if there are oil and gas resources to defend. He don't know too much history in WW2 Romanian navy was very important for Germans.

[@MrQ454]

@@WeaponDetective No,. Tetal I class and build in Romania. And the civil ship construction was developed then.