M2 Pro Mac mini review - music STRESS test!

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Mark Ellis Reviews

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@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
See part two of this test here ➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZmqdGyJppZ5e9E
@JustinFYI
@JustinFYI Жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, the case is closed... the M2 Pro Mac mini can officially handle "loads and loads and loads of DX7's". And on that note, it's time I go and pick one up now for myself. Thanks as always, Mark!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
It’s the only thing _everyone_ wanted to know.
@robbiemusic
@robbiemusic Жыл бұрын
My issue with adding so many tracks is that you’re not really working the vst. There’s no midi, so it’s not playing/working. The amount of tracks should be less. I did the test with MBP and got up to 150 tracks. Try copying the midi along with the instruments.
@erickborling1302
@erickborling1302 Жыл бұрын
That's funny because the TX-802 and the DX7IIE were eight DX7s in one unit, like 30 years ago, and so was the Mac SE-30. Not much of a test if that's the test.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Жыл бұрын
Dx7 are extremely efficient my 2009 4 core Mac can handle hundreds of them.
@Lilcrump33
@Lilcrump33 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviewswhat about the actual base 8 gig ram and 10 core gpu with 250 gb? Should it be enough?
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT: I am fully aware of the issue with two or three plosives (mic pops) in this video. There are many things to think about when making these videos and that slipped through. Lesson learned, but I don’t need reminding about it every third comment 😉 Enjoy the content!
@vasileiospgr
@vasileiospgr Жыл бұрын
it's nice that you mentioned it cause there's people like me that have DPC Latency issues that causes audio drop outs and glad i've seen your comment before starting looking out for what happened at my pc again 😊
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi Жыл бұрын
all those pops- should've saved this for fathers' day. 😂
@DisconnectedAudio
@DisconnectedAudio Жыл бұрын
As a signed music producer and professional mastering engineer this video was fantastic. I only stumbled across your channel since I started looking to upgrade my studio computer and your content has been great but this video was exactly what I needed. I'd love to know how much swap memory was being used while stress testing. Thanks Mark, please keep going with this type of content.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
That’s lovely feedback - thank you!
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth Жыл бұрын
Memory Pressure is the one to look at interestingly enough rather than the other memory related readouts
@PeterJaquesMusic
@PeterJaquesMusic Жыл бұрын
yes i'm also curious about the memory pressure when you were maxing out
@codenamegrs9278
@codenamegrs9278 Жыл бұрын
yeah , if you could tell us how much swap it used with the 16GB of RAM , that would be Awesome ❤️🔥❤️💪🏻😃
@madness8556
@madness8556 Жыл бұрын
​@@codenamegrs9278 I'd also be interested to know this and whether it's worth the extra money to upgrade to the 1TB SSD?
@2009kortevideos
@2009kortevideos Жыл бұрын
hiya - cool video. would have been nice to see the buffer size. also, when you add only instruments without midi data that doesnt add any cpu usage. keep up the good work!
@TheHealingGrid
@TheHealingGrid Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, you’re the only person that’s tested this machine in the way that I wanted to see. I just ordered one of these m2 pro’s with the upgraded CPU, 32gb RAM + 2tb ssd. You are using similar software to me and I guess I may have over spec’d it. Oh well! Future proofed and all that jazz 🙃🌟
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@johnboychak5063
@johnboychak5063 Жыл бұрын
To borrow one of your phrases, “I have no idea what any of that means” but I appreciate what is a real world example of stressing the M2. Good video!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Haha - thank you!
@Siri_Duffa
@Siri_Duffa Жыл бұрын
It's more than enough for most people. I bought the 2021 14" 10 core,16gb, 1tb model as I just wanted to be "safe" and make sure it met my music production needs. I now realise it was actually an "overkill" purchase in terms of music production ( for me anyway). What some have been able to squeeze out of the M1 and M2 (non pro models) is pretty amazing. How times have changed!
@Zerodivides
@Zerodivides Жыл бұрын
Same😂 I’m thinking that this is also an investment for the future. Will I also edit video or get balls deep into Blender? Or both simultaneously? Only time will tell.
@trevfisher
@trevfisher Жыл бұрын
When the M1 came out Present Day Production ran an even harder stress test than this and couldn't make it fall over. They used the basic 8GB and so I bought one. I bought the 2TB and 16GB version, it never breaks a sweat and never falls over. For years I swore I'd never have a Mac, I built my own PC's, this changed my mind. I'm running Reaper (I was a Cubase man since the Atari days but they took two years to release a silicone version). Mac's had the reputation as 'best computers for music' for two decades and it was never true, it is now.
@sonicindustries227
@sonicindustries227 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job Mark. I'm in the market for a couple of M2 mini's and being a heavy NI/Massive X user really wanted to see someone push it with multiple channels with said synth and.. you did exactly that! Outstanding.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was helpful - that’s why I do this stuff 😎
@watchtheskies
@watchtheskies Жыл бұрын
The M2 Pro is no doubt very impressive in this capacity, I noticed that you didn't duplicate the midi data along with those duplicate tracks? it's one thing to count how many virtual instruments and effects you can load into memory and another thing to actually trigger those virtual instruments all together at the same time, that's when the CPU really get stressed!
@KomischerMensch
@KomischerMensch Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thought the same …
@koningskeizer
@koningskeizer Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I’m not sure what the actual test is here. It certainly has no use case in the real world. Sure, it’s still taxing on the machine but this is not how one would produce a track. 😂 Should’ve copied the tracks including midi/audio data and see how for it got then.
@gouhlgambit6296
@gouhlgambit6296 Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this , the true test is duplicating instruments running multiple voices, both in a pure Au and also a rompler style Au like omnishpere , this way your testing both the processor and also the ram. If it handles that well, chuck on a convulsion reverb like space designer and see what it can really handle !
@gouhlgambit6296
@gouhlgambit6296 Жыл бұрын
Then duplicate ad infinitum till it actually breaks
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
...which is something I made abundantly clear in the video ;)
@irensaga561
@irensaga561 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Not enough people are trying out this kind of thing on videos. My M1 Air does a pretty good job of handling my messing about in Cubase, but I’m thinking about taking things up a notch. The Mini Pro might well be what I go for. Cheers
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
What do you want me to do next with this music production series?
@DisconnectedAudio
@DisconnectedAudio Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a similar stress test but in a mastering scenario. Mastering plugins can be extremely CPU intensive - multiple Fabfilter L3 at 32x oversampling, soothe2, Ozone 10, Acustica Audio plugins etc etc. Thanks very much.
@nickdriver8337
@nickdriver8337 Жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested to see how it handles loads of plugins on stacks and busses while mastering on the fly with a long chain of very CPU-heavy plugins with 8x/16x/32x oversampling going on! I have a feeling that your Logic session might have fallen over if all of the instruments were actually outputting audio too. Would love to see these kinds of tests with Logic's CPU meter visible! Thanks for making this video, I'd love to see more of these as I'm currently torn between the M2 Pro Mac mini and Mac Studio for music production, cheers!
@nickdriver8337
@nickdriver8337 Жыл бұрын
@@DisconnectedAudio Right on Matt! Yet to see any videos doing this kind of testing!
@MrChibras
@MrChibras Жыл бұрын
24 bit / 96 kHz and 24 bit /192 kHz stress test
@epicsynthwave
@epicsynthwave Жыл бұрын
Now do the same with large orchestral libraries (Sonuscore, Orchestral Tools, VSL and the likes). To see how well not just the CPU but especially the 16GB RAM cope.
@mramericanmuscle40
@mramericanmuscle40 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to find out before my 14 day return period is up on my m2 pro mac mini. I was thinking of returning it and ordering one with 32gb ram. But from videos I’ve seen this base unit seems to be optimized saving more ram that an m1 wouldn’t. thanks!!!
@Featherlightstudio
@Featherlightstudio Жыл бұрын
Great video! While I REALLY wanted to like the M2 Pro Mini but, I ended up returning it and getting the M1Max Studio instead. There just wasn't enough difference in performance and the heat and fan noise working close to the computer with high track/Plugin counts was way to loud in a working recording studio.
@Journeymanlive
@Journeymanlive Жыл бұрын
M2Pro was loud ? I hope you don't get one of the "whining" Mac Studio. It sure runs lower, and should use less fan, but the whining high pitch recuring problem is something Apple screwed up big time. I too worried about that to consider the Studio unfortunatly.
@Featherlightstudio
@Featherlightstudio Жыл бұрын
@@Journeymanlive The Studio is literally silent. As I understand it, the whining fan thing were the early releases only. Several of our partner mix rooms (20+) have them as well and none have reported that problem in the last year.
@Journeymanlive
@Journeymanlive Жыл бұрын
@@Featherlightstudio thanks i never heard about a timeline like this. I'd buy second hand anyway, any idea of the point in time where they adressed it ? They might have just done something to the OS, i dont see them changing the whole design. Although I have read many comments of people having the whining appear later in the life of the machine, pretty scary to me as I do want a completly silent computer ! cheers
@Journeymanlive
@Journeymanlive Жыл бұрын
@@Featherlightstudio here's from another guy at GearSpace: I have a mini pro 12c and had a studio this summer. I find it hard to believe that the mini could be louder than a mac studio. On the studio the fan runs 24/7 even under no load. It is audible if you are in a quiet room and close to the studio. Still much quieter than intel macs, however, and probably not loud enough to be a problem 99% of the time - unless you have the dreaded whine, which mine did. The mini is dead silent even under stress testing. Admittedly, I haven't done gpu stress testing, because it is irrelevant to me, so maybe going full throttle cpu and gpu at the same time kicks the fan on. Working in logic and pro tools I have never heard the fan even with my ear a couple inches away trying to hear it. If it is on, it is at a low rpm and close to inaudible.
@Featherlightstudio
@Featherlightstudio Жыл бұрын
@@Journeymanlive I guess if you never use the GPU it probably is quiet, but what's the point on spending all that money and never doing any video related tasks.
@newmanh
@newmanh Жыл бұрын
''how do we break it??'' that was so hilarious
@halcyo
@halcyo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a REALWORLD stress test (lots of different plugins and VI's)! Everyone else just takes one VI track and they multiply it like 100x. Music tracks obviously are not 100 tracks of the exact same thing.
@enriquesanchez2001
@enriquesanchez2001 Жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT ♥♥♥♥ Thank you, Mark! Just for my Mac M2 Pro last night and I am very excited by your results! ♥
@dejavuking
@dejavuking Жыл бұрын
Hey again this kind of testing is just fantastic it’s absolutely helpful, although I’m yet to get into music production. The methodology is extremely helpful, in that testing an absolutely huge number of music tracks etc literally shows what the ultimate capability of this base pro version is. Now taking this video idea to the next stage, video editing. What I’d find unbelievably helpful and valuable and I hedge a guess that thousands of others will also find helpful. Is doing this but with video editing on davinci resolve and Final Cut,just with video timelines. To be specific having a a bunch of very long 4K, 10 422 long gop and or ALLI H.265 that total an hour or hour and a half, add a bunch titles, multi cams, colour grades and cut points and see if you can bring the base m2 pro Mac mini to a grinding stop, see if you can scrub through the timeline in real time etc etc. I respect max tech etc but they all do timelines of like 1minute and go oh export of 50secs but that’s not helpful if your say thinking of making documentaries like I am with timelines of an hour plus!.sorry waffling comment I take ages to get to the point.
@SiEffen
@SiEffen Жыл бұрын
Great to see a useful music-based review. Thanks!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MakeYourTransition
@MakeYourTransition Жыл бұрын
I've just got the M2 Pro Top Spec Mac Mini with 32GB of RAM...wait til you see some of the Dolby Atmos Mixing session I'll be running on that!
@johnwade7430
@johnwade7430 Жыл бұрын
Most impressive - would love to see you trying out some orchestral templates
@blue_mountains28
@blue_mountains28 Жыл бұрын
Love the music specific based review❤
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Awesome - thank you!
@andrewgarley1400
@andrewgarley1400 Жыл бұрын
Very Impressed, I am surprised that 16g handled that. I got the M2 with 32gb I got fed up with of ram messages on the M1.
@nukenoly8751
@nukenoly8751 Жыл бұрын
I ran a similar test on my base MacBook Air M1 running Logic and had a hard time killing it. Believe the hype. For music production any silicon Mac will do
@DanielEscudeiroCE
@DanielEscudeiroCE Жыл бұрын
Incredible! Could you do this with VSt like Symphonic libraries?
@paul_smith66
@paul_smith66 Жыл бұрын
Cool video. You've added loads of midi tracks but they are empty tracks. So just having the tracks there does put load on the system but there is way more load when they are trying to play something back simultaneously. Don't get me wrong, it's very impressive, but I'd like to have seen how it coped with actual playback material on those tracks and playing back simultaneiously. That's the real test.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul. Lots more on the way in this series 😉
@jumpbackgeno
@jumpbackgeno Ай бұрын
Holy cow! I'm about ready not trade out my i9 27in iMac for a M2 Ultra but that might be super overkill haha thanks for doing this
@guitaranswerguy
@guitaranswerguy Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I'm about ready to upgrade my old Intel-based iMac... and thought I'd need to drop a ton of cash on a new Mac Studio (for rock/metal music) and am happy to see that I absolutely do NOT. I do run a few Spitfire, 8DIO, and Native Instruments plugins on any given project, but it doesn't seem like that'll be a problem for a Mac Mini.
@JamesWilliam70
@JamesWilliam70 Жыл бұрын
The main test after populating with multiple tracks would be to record notes from your midi keyboard or record an external instrument into an audio channel and check its latency to see if it still records on beat. My Mac Pro 14 m1 pro can handle allot of plugins + a few external elecktron boxes in overbridge mode pushing 16+ audio record streams at the same time on beat. only one plugin ruins the whole experience and that's the isotope ozone 10 plugin suite which adds latency timing issues when recording new tracks.
@TheWhills
@TheWhills Жыл бұрын
Ya im wondering if I will be able to record using Gojira Archetype
@samueljbooth9124
@samueljbooth9124 2 ай бұрын
Please get a pop shield . Or using a compress with a hi pass filter built into it
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews 2 ай бұрын
You're late to the party, mate - we've been through this.
@sonicstoryteller
@sonicstoryteller 5 ай бұрын
Use virtual string instruments and a 140 piece orchestra playing different instruments that will be a test for it as a media composer that would be invaluable cheers great channel 👍
@Krell666
@Krell666 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing audio testing on a new Mac!
@paulduncan2112
@paulduncan2112 Жыл бұрын
How about playing with sustain all 88 keys from some heavy duty VST synth, with unison maxed out. Then replicate that track as many times as you can . At what point do clicks and stutters start appearing? (Personally I'm interested to see how far you can push Spire (synth) on that machine).
@JoshuaHults
@JoshuaHults Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is very good to see, I just purchased m2 MacBook Pro with 32gb memory and 1tb hd mostly for music production. To be fair it's the 10 core not 12 core, but don't think it will matter At All after seeing this.
@owenspottiswoode5936
@owenspottiswoode5936 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review, Mark - I've been on the fence between this and the Mac Studio for music production. Although every other reviewer is saying the latter is better value if you upgrade the mini from the base model at all, instinctively I feel like the higher single core clock speed of the M2 pro might be more important for music production (and to be fair, most KZbinrs tend to focus on video editing, where the Studio probably does have the edge). On that note: do you ever use large orchestral templates where memory might be an issue, and if so can you offer any insight? While I'd feel a little nervous with anything less than 32gb, I've heard the memory swapping is pretty good so maybe I don't need to be and I can get away without paying through the nose to up the stock 16gb?
@clayxavier
@clayxavier Жыл бұрын
A lot of orchestral plugins won’t even load if you don’t have enough RAM, I would say no mater what get 32 MINIMUM
@AlbertPalmer
@AlbertPalmer Жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see the pressure on the system with iStat menus or similar. Fun experiment!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
That’s a fair shout!
@ainaraza84
@ainaraza84 Жыл бұрын
It is a good video, the only thing which is still worries me with the basic Mini M2 Pro is the 16Gb RAM. I would like to know if this would be enough with Orchestral tools like Spitfire plugins and mastering tool like Ozone from Izotope (it uses lot's of RAM) or Reverb like Liquidsonics Seventh Heaven Pro. With my current Mac mini 2018 i7 (6 cores) and 32GB it struggles to handle it even with not so many tracks, buffer 128 or 256 and 88.2Khz sample rate
@tomgadd
@tomgadd Жыл бұрын
You need to use a pop filter or use a low cut, or take the flat setting in sm7b. I hear pops over and over.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Please read the comments section.
@butdoesitchug
@butdoesitchug Жыл бұрын
Love the review mate, really helpful.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@fdschuler7863
@fdschuler7863 Жыл бұрын
You need to load multiple instances of Kontakt. Then load large libraries into each. That's what I'm wanting to test.
@JoshuaHults
@JoshuaHults Жыл бұрын
Dude my 2013 iMac with 4 core intel i7 with slow 16gb memory could easily run 20 tracks of huge orchestral libraries, this m2 will be based on geek bench at least 5x more capable. Like guys stop thinking you need a super computer, you don't. When I put my plug-ins on a fast external ssd it gave me like 50% better performance. The m2 comes with stupid fast memory bandwidth, and if you upgrade to 1tb and above the read and write speeds on ssd will be fast too for swap memory. If you literally could manage to still cripple the machine, just increase buffer size, and then in preferences set it to use all the cores and close out any background application. You can also use the freeze track option which frees up cpu, or bounce in place.
@PM-432
@PM-432 Жыл бұрын
The vidéo, I was waiting for !!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ZekeMagnar
@ZekeMagnar Жыл бұрын
What a cool and informative video. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
What a lovely comment - makes it all worth it. Thank you!
@ZekeMagnar
@ZekeMagnar Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews Anytime. Keep up the great work.
@mikec2660
@mikec2660 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would do with kontakt instruments ? like big spitfire libraries !
@nickszabodrums
@nickszabodrums Жыл бұрын
Please someone reply. I need an answer too!
@taucetus3657
@taucetus3657 Жыл бұрын
@@nickszabodrums Get the base model M1 max with 64GB RAM, the base model CPU and GPU because music software mainly relies on single core CPU performance and having extra overhead memory is always a plus for the long term. That system should sort you out for the next few years.
@erichtisnado1536
@erichtisnado1536 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's pretty freaking impressive.
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth Жыл бұрын
Logic isnt the best optimised actually I run bitwig and it's noticably snappier under heavy load and that's with a smaller buffer size I've heard reaper is similar so that's something others have noticed.
@Timsin2
@Timsin2 Жыл бұрын
Your videos almost have me convinced to sell my M1 Mac mini and go up to the M2 pro, to make my coding ‘go faster’ - by the end of this video I’ll probably be convinced!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Haha - what was the verdict?
@Timsin2
@Timsin2 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews you have a winner! And the resale on the M1 mini is pretty good too for the 16gb 512gb model ;)
@dmcgilvrey
@dmcgilvrey Жыл бұрын
Don’t you need to add Mitty to the tracks to show the stress on the computer? Duplicating blank tracks for the plug-in it’s not drying any power from those plug-ins. They might loading to ram, but there’s nothing being pulled from the CPU against them. I could be wrong, and somebody may have already said something, but great video
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
There’s lots more I could have done here. It’s a good start, though 😉 Thanks for the kind words!
@fisch723
@fisch723 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Mark. Same here. Great job and very helpful but having a lot of instrument tracks is only useful when we see what happens when they’re trying to play MIDI. Play some big chords on, say, Omnisphere or Massive X and duplicate that until it breaks. That would give a better real world example. Thanks!
@mickelachlan
@mickelachlan Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you Mark but please use a popfilter/popstopper or a different angle of your Shure SM7b.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. And trust me, no one is more aware of that slight issue on this one than me 😉
@nicholasbinder5593
@nicholasbinder5593 Жыл бұрын
good video. would have loved to see stats though (cpu, memory, swap memory) plus… what was your buffer size during the test?
@kaneclements7761
@kaneclements7761 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. This is brilliant. How powerful is this machine. I’m a photographer not a musician so the apps I use will manage memory differently to Logic. However I have come away from this with confidence that the base M2 Pro will monster editing any high resolution images with pixel enhancement etc.etc. I have some images that are over half a Gb. That is, this is a great practical test and shows the things that specs sheets can’t.
@stefanoricci9978
@stefanoricci9978 Жыл бұрын
This has thrown a spanner in the works i was convinced i was going to go for a Studio now im now so sure lol DDo you run any extra usb hubs from the back of tha Machine, issue i have is i dont think there are enough ports on the mini
@alexanderskjold9511
@alexanderskjold9511 Жыл бұрын
How about the heat of the box? Is it noisy or is there not even a fan inside it? :D great video man!
@rishabhbose29
@rishabhbose29 Жыл бұрын
This is the kinda of review I have been waiting for. But should have pushed this guy a little more. Like I want to know what was the Memory usage with all the VSTs and Plugs that were here. Also what was the Bounce time with all of these on without doing a bounce in place and committing the VSTs to an audio file. That would be hugely helpful mate. P.S.- Forgot to ask. Did you close this Logic session and tried opening it again with everything maxed out. How much time did it take to boot up ???
@digitalmarketinghumans
@digitalmarketinghumans Жыл бұрын
That is insane head room. M2 pro Mac mini 🤯
@ekoboydj
@ekoboydj Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and even better the second part. Im going with this compiter as my 2018 mini i7/32gbram is struggling. However budget is tight to go with the 512 ssd and will go with the 256. You think is bad choice since the internet says its slower than 512. Working mostly with audio..
@icysasakimusic
@icysasakimusic Жыл бұрын
You need to load and play the tracks 251 tracks playing at the same time. Not just loading plug ins and not playing all of them together
@c4n0
@c4n0 Жыл бұрын
i would like to see someone trying high end audio hardware, im planning upgrading my Digidesign TDM system to an Avid Carbon or UA Apollo, i have both m1 and m2 mac minis but havent found anyone talking about what latency is introduced by apple silicone
@trebleboost7
@trebleboost7 Жыл бұрын
I am very curious about this too, but with more prosumer multichannel interfaces (my current is Tascam Celesonic with an MAudio Profire feeding ADAT for 18 total channels+. Might be trying 96K/24-bit going forward as well. Interface is USB 3.0. (I am currently Intel based, but have proof of concept to Aurio pro on Ipad, and GB on I phone (44.1/24)
@Bashanvibe
@Bashanvibe Жыл бұрын
This is the move I need to update badly!!! I’m still on 2012
@youngreddprotx
@youngreddprotx Жыл бұрын
Nice! Would have been good to see the CPU meter while the tracks play....
@youngreddprotx
@youngreddprotx Жыл бұрын
I just bought this Mac today. Loaded 50 alchemy tracks with MIDi info and got the system overload. It will crash if you copy the MIDI information to the instrument tracks
@markquavertune2003
@markquavertune2003 Ай бұрын
A fellow Massive X user ! I don't use any of the stock or expansion presets .Just like to do do my own . What type of audio interface if any do you use with it ?
@adrianmorris8747
@adrianmorris8747 Жыл бұрын
Am intrigued on how this Mac handles recording audio, latency, how many audio tracks before it stutters etc.
@Bthelick
@Bthelick Жыл бұрын
A streaming large samples test should work to break it, given that the SSD in the M2 is half the speed of the M1 haha.
@AlonAbraham1
@AlonAbraham1 Жыл бұрын
You just convinced me that i don’t need more than the base m2pro🎉
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@AlonAbraham1
@AlonAbraham1 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews thank you:)
@LindaLooUK
@LindaLooUK Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, may I suggest you get yourself a pop filter for your mic. 😘
@jayg339
@jayg339 Жыл бұрын
It looks like he has the shure sm7b microphone, which doesn’t really need a pop filter(the mic itself is targeted towards podcasting/speaking without needing a pop filter).
@winwiz1959
@winwiz1959 Жыл бұрын
Yes completely agree
@glennmckenzie1096
@glennmckenzie1096 Жыл бұрын
@@jayg339 Sadly there's a lot of popping occurring anyway. Partly it's down to where the mic is aimed - 'p's shoot directly out the front of the mouth so placing it a bit lower often is enough.
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of random layering. Have fun with the new setup. 😊
@MatthiasKnorrMusic
@MatthiasKnorrMusic Жыл бұрын
So if the Mini is capable of handling so many tracks I'm really looking forward now to the MacStudio M2 Max I ordered a few days ago. I'm upgrading from a Mac Mini late 2012 i7. The only downside of this is that I might have to get rid of my old Interface now (Firewire only) and get new ones. 😕
@NYJhono
@NYJhono Жыл бұрын
uuuugh i wish you had couple of acustica plugins in there tooo! good review nonetheless
@stevem-h3562
@stevem-h3562 2 ай бұрын
hmmmm.... very seriously considering one of these to replace a couple of old cheesegraters..... very interesting.
@briangreenwood5533
@briangreenwood5533 Жыл бұрын
Came across your channel and your review is exactly the content I was looking for about music production👌, a big additional question is Im also seeking a new curved monitor as im moving away from my 27" iMac, what are using and could you suggest any models. ?
@John-uk3wz
@John-uk3wz Жыл бұрын
I pretty regularly put my mid tier M1 iMac through an orchestra’s worth of instruments from East West plus many plugins and it doesn’t break a sweat, so I’m not surprised at all by these findings! You’re right of course, that test is completely unrealistic, but I think worth it to find the ceiling (is there even a real ceiling, in effect?).
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
There's some very smart memory management going on, I think, although there must be a ceiling somewhere!
@John-uk3wz
@John-uk3wz Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews oh absolutely I just mean that 99+% of users will not find it, which is beyond incredible for a machine of that price. Thanks for making this video and putting that on full display! Keep up the great work.
@conrow1157
@conrow1157 Жыл бұрын
Keep in my mind that you also do screen recording btw…amazing
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Yep - I totally forgot to mention that. And there’s a whole bunch of apps running in the background, too.
@jasonshrestha
@jasonshrestha 3 ай бұрын
i am more interested in the latency, with the lowest buffer of 32 samples. I want to be able to play synth plugins with birtually no delay. how low can it go ?
@neilmacmusic
@neilmacmusic Жыл бұрын
excellent video! (many ‘plosive boofs from your mic placement-recommend mic’ing from above ) I use my M1 2020 for music production also and it’s been going great but am considering leaping to the M2 Pro👍 Also as a sound post production bod of some 40 years i also use it for mixing tv shows too with Pro Tools Ultimate and a plethora of plugins and VI’s
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! As for the plosives - that was indeed a mic placement error on my part, very annoying (although miking from above with an SM7b won’t quite work 😉).
@neilmacmusic
@neilmacmusic Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews Absolutely! i would suggest aiming it slightly to your left (to cam) and ideally another 10cm away from you with more gain to suit but you will lose that nice bassy proximity effect …:) i have watched a few youtubes on how to convert a shure sm57 into an sm7b 😮🙈 smaller footprint and it seems to work well Thanks again for the video- i am now happy to jump from M1 to M2 Pro👍
@P.A9165
@P.A9165 Жыл бұрын
really interesting test and video. i'm going to upgrade my home studio computer, and is it a good idea to buy M2 pro 16gb ( is it really enough? ) instead of 32 gb of RAM M2 pro ,... or waiting for the new Imac with M3 chips ?
@TheBluuHouse
@TheBluuHouse Жыл бұрын
Great video and thank you!!! Everyone is focusing on video creation that we music guys are left out. But In your opinion would you recommend 32GB RAM over 16GB when the Mac Mini memory swap on the SSD HD?
@fisch723
@fisch723 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Why not show the CPU meter while you do it?
@jamwithjason3112
@jamwithjason3112 3 ай бұрын
What is the latency time when u use 32 sample buffer ? Does it work ?
@srinip
@srinip Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I wonder if a DAW like Cubase would be any harder on the computer than Logic...?
@KomischerMensch
@KomischerMensch Жыл бұрын
One Question - did u add a midi file to all those tracks u added? Because if not, this doesn’t really count as a cpu stresstest… the loaded plugins have to process something to be active…. Otherwise like the video ^^
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the memory and scratch SSD core pressure stats.
@johnathanbeats
@johnathanbeats Жыл бұрын
I make music in logic, and use a m1 mini 16 ram with out any issue. I think i may wait a few more years to upgrade.
@BendingUnit1000
@BendingUnit1000 Жыл бұрын
Really cool Video! Very informative... But please, get a few inches farther away from the Sm7b, the Plosives are killing me... 🙂
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Check the other comments, dude - no one was more aware of this than me after the fact 😉 Thank you for the very kind words, though!
@elliotbulley1849
@elliotbulley1849 Жыл бұрын
Run activity monitor and open the graphs while you work
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
“Please”?!
@elliotbulley1849
@elliotbulley1849 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkEllisReviews with a 🍒 on top 😅
@trebleboost7
@trebleboost7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Real World test! I have been waiting for something like this. Wonderful demonstration of ITB performance. I would think that OTB audio tracking - multichannel, along with ITB would work well too? Especially with Presonus Studio One Pro, version 5?
@ninjalightning2631
@ninjalightning2631 3 ай бұрын
Base model is 8GB ram 256 disc space
@teedzay
@teedzay Жыл бұрын
Are there a lot of trouble with M2, or should I settle with M1 Max?
@bigstonez1125
@bigstonez1125 Жыл бұрын
Dear god…your voice! I’d listen to you reading food nutrition labels
@hakonberg8003
@hakonberg8003 10 ай бұрын
I dont get it....creating empty dx7 tracks stresses the memory but not pure execution .. ? What's the point?? My 2012 mac can easily do that, it's just a question of having enough ram
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews 10 ай бұрын
Empty DX7 is a brilliant name for a band. Thank you.
@reyhprodbeats4605
@reyhprodbeats4605 Жыл бұрын
Hey mark, amazing video.. Would it be possible to do some stressing videos using some instances of uvi falcon and halion 7 and some Acustica Audio fxs like JAM? Thanks in advance
@chumza7498
@chumza7498 Жыл бұрын
Great video just wanted to no are you running omnisphere Arturia through Rosseta?
@juddrizzo
@juddrizzo 10 ай бұрын
Oh!!!! One more super important thing… I am only interested in music production. I’m trying to put this particular machine together solely for music production.
@blackmirror2992
@blackmirror2992 4 ай бұрын
Is 16GB ram enough?
@asirus
@asirus Жыл бұрын
Hilarious and informative! 👍🏽
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Keyboardnut99
@Keyboardnut99 Жыл бұрын
Great to see a logic the video the M series machines are beasts for audio but it does rely on the software developers optimising the software. I have found Roland cloud to be awful!
@alexandremagno267
@alexandremagno267 4 ай бұрын
It seems that you are duplicating tracks with no Audio or Midi DATA on them. It would be great to see if you duplicate actually tracks with DATA on them. This is where problems starts to happen.
@therealprofessorp6237
@therealprofessorp6237 Жыл бұрын
I want to see a real stress test with a constant load in the background using Parallels. Any stress test should show Activity Monitor with emphasis on balloon memory. I am currently on the fence with a mac mini m2 pro 32gb/1tb/10c vs mac mini m2 pro 32gb/1tb/12c vs mac studio m1 max 1tb for that use case. the difference is in the performance cores but it doesn't seem like anyone is testing that. my use case has my productivity split between mac and pc side and figure this is a way to have only one machine.
@MrPipmeister
@MrPipmeister Жыл бұрын
Not real world test though. Putting it to task for music production you need to start using sample libraries- see how it runs with something like Spitfire Audio, many of the NI complete, East West Hollywood Strings
@juddrizzo
@juddrizzo 10 ай бұрын
So, right now… I’m thinking about waiting for the M3 Mac mini. I have seen some testing on the M3 versus the M3 pro compared to other models in the MacBook. I was thinking about getting an M2 Mac Mini w 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB hard drive. But … I think I’ll wait for the M3 Mac mini to come out and see what the story is. What do you think? Please advise? (Advice is welcome from anyone on here.)
@frazerweb
@frazerweb Жыл бұрын
What will the M4 mini pro will be capable of, I wonder...
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