M3 MacBook Pro VS M3 PRO!

Apple has a new 14" MacBook Pro at a cheaper $1599 price point complete with a 120hz promotion mini-led display, but instead of coming with a "Pro chip" the new base level MacBook Pro comes with an M3 chip so is this base level MacBook Pro worth it as a pro level machine and is it better than the M2 MacBook Pro it replaces?
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[@GregsGadgets]

Sorry there is a mistake in one of the charts at 5:18 - The labels are wrong the first bar is the results from the M3 Pro (14 core GPU) while the second result is from the M3 chip - not the M2 Pro (19 core gpu) The scores are correct, the labels are wrong.

[@s.k.sheikh233]

Hello, I am sahil. My interest in coding, web development. i want to become a good developer but i have no laptop and i am not able to buy it. i am belong to poor family. so please can you give me any good laptop in your treasure. And may I be grateful to you all my life

[@spectrive9739]

I noticed your graph at 5:06 doesn't start from 0, and it makes the increase look better than it actually is.

[@williamg7138]

Not in my country it doesn't lmao

[@dennis_tm]

Not just one of the charts... all the ones I double checked are wrong.

[@bhawanigurung9913]

Is the m3pro 14” alot heavier than m3air 15” to travel with daily or not much?

[@WorksOnMyComputer]

No Mac should ship with 8GB of RAM. Its just not acceptable.

[@stephenkeever6029]

Well done comparison. You answered a lot of my questions.

[@markbernstein8736]

You did the best in focusing more on my decision especially when you said more of base M3 comparing to the new Mac Book Air thank you for making my decision more clear. Thanks again

[@5GRobo]

Whatever you do please get a machine with 16GB of ram. Air 15" 16GB is a great machine, so is the M2 Pro

[@Coolio157]

Great little comparison video

[@tomlewis4748]

The base 16" is configured identically to the 14" with 12-core/18 GB. If you put 1 TB on each, the difference is $300. other than ~28% more screen real estate (and a return to 22-hr from 18-hr), what might the difference in performance be? Obviously, it could easily have better thermals based on being bigger. But is it also a better performer than the 14?

[@justinyadao744]

I'm on the m3 pro and i have used a bunch of opened apps. I left my computer open... and slowly I see the ram useage go down second by second. the dynamic cacheing looks like it see which apps are not being used, it optimizes them, and it for the apps that have some usage on them, it slowly caches things down until you open it up again. But i see this trend where the data is going down when you do not touch your computer and it slowly fills up to where it was as you use it more. Overall alex zilinsky, ran some bench marks ( a software developer) and I can confirm: the SSD speeds are back up to double the speeds on the base model storages. Even for m3/ as for memroy bandwidth, you absolutely will not notice at all. M1 pro and m2 pro series are so fast the data gets chewed through before you saturated and froze the system. You might notice hiccups id you use a 12 bit footage with 3 stacks and have a bench mark open in the background for the consumer chips: but for the pro and max chips: apple has really peaked. All that's left for them to do in my opinion is to bring back the clalm shell design next year since their chips woul dhave so much damn battery. I used my macbook pro for 5 hours now since it left the box and it went down 10%, and that's me hammering the brightness and blasting the new speakers. watching my podcasts are so amazing because I thought I wouldn't notice, but voices are deeper because you can hear the entire low end from the drivers... I'm coing from the last intel macbook ever made. The spaceblack made me pull the trigger. And I changed my mind last minute from the 12 core to the 11 core m3 pro because the 11 core m3 pro has the same and slightly better cpu AND gpu than the top spec m2 pro. And I always see developers praising and hanging onto their m1 pro.... I think that's largely in part due to the damn fast ssd speeds and they brought it back up. RAM is not a problem. And They gave us ray tracing for editing. Resident evil runs a locked and steady 30 fps on an iphone. Haven't downloaded that game because mac isn't supposed to be for gaming, but it has some games and it's very capable. 9/10..... I will be returning it today and swapping it out for more storage because I'd want to hold onto this machine for more than 2 years as initially thought.

[@dailydoseof_lucas]

How’s the MacBook Pro M3 pro real life battery performance? I’m considering between M3 Pro and M3 base model :)

[@jeffhale1189]

Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day!

[@parmeetsingh2430]

great video comparison, thanks alot

[@bryansmith331]

It’s like you were directly speaking to me. 😂 I don’t use pro apps etc. However the screen on the base M3 and the speakers are worth the extra money, even if I don’t use it as intended. My old MacBook Air M2 is being retired.

[@leomastertrading9977]

Thank you for the very helpful video!!

[@sergejkrynycky728]

QUESTION! I’m considering selling my trusty M1 Macbook Air with 16gb ram and getting 14” M3 Pro (either binned or unbinned). What do you think? Would that be a significant upgrade?

[@karlbautista2675]

Similar specs upgrade of base m3 gets you very close to the m3 pro, with the pro getting another thunderbolt port and multiple display support, additional cores, and space black color. The most significant upgrade being the space black

[@5GRobo]

2GB of more ram, CPU and GPU are 50% faster, SSD is faster, extra cooling system, quieter, extra TB port, extra monitor support for $200 more. In the PC world with no apple tax, either the CPU and GPU upgrade alone would cost $200. The base M3 in a Pro body is a terrible deal!

[@shameermulji]

@@5GRobo with only 8GB at $1,599, I agree. If it had 16GB RAM for that price, then I would say it's a great value but as it stands now, it shouldn't exist in the lineup.

[@Wilbur-em1hw]

So you consider a color an upgrade. Wow the bar is low. No wonder this company crossed a trillion dollars. Yall would buy anything it puts out.

[@5GRobo]

@@shameermulji 100%

[@PeresD]

You weren’t paying attention. To the back of the class for you.

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. I agree, the best buyer for the base model M3 Pro would be the people wanting a more capable machine than the M2 Air and 13” MacBook Pro. If they’re not shopping between those basic models, they should go the base M3 Pro chip.

[@ShaunSeahSG]

This is exactly the reason I went with the M3 Pro coming from a 13” M1 MBP

[@5GRobo]

A machine with 8GB of ram is not a more capable machine for everyday use. CPU is not the bottleneck, RAM is.

[@sharonb.9128]

@@5GRobo more ports, better display, better speakers and faster chip=more capable to me.

[@5GRobo]

@@sharonb.9128 Screen is smaller than the 15" Air and speakers are comparable to the 15". The extra port is just an HDMI and card reader, which you could get with an Anker hub. A 15" Air with 16GB will perform much better while multi tasking, but of course the real deal is the M2 Pro. It beats your base M3 in everything except battery life, which was already lasting all day and it costs the same or less.

[@timcochran6122]

I am not crazy about 8GB of RAM but I am coming from 13" Intel MBP to 14" MBP M3. My work flow doesn't seem affected by the smaller RAM plus I got a great deal on this model at Costco. My previous MBP used to run hot all the time and the battery was awful. This new one is super quiet and runs cool.

[@liquidluck5689]

This convinced me to stick with the base model. I don’t use pro applications. My use case is M365, KZbin and other simple processes. Thank you!!

[@larrymalpaya]

Very nice Thank you....I watched this video on the base model m3...and fr most people out there including me, this is more than enough for regular daily tasks (btw I I switched from the M1 Pro and saw a big difference )

[@YouSydneyTube]

Is there a difference in the SSD speeds when you upgrade the SSD for both models? How do they compare to baseline and to each other at 1TB, 2TB? It would be interesting to see whether there is any difference with the M3 Max variant ssd speeds as well…

[@Jack_Meadows]

From what I saw on a different video, m3 base was averaging 3k+ Mb a second, the m3pro averaged about 4.5k, and the 1tb version as around 6k+. All dual nand though, which is great.

[@713XxxX]

Great video 👍🏻 lots of good information.

[@Discovermax]

how does the m3 base model comprares to the base model macbook pro 14 m1 pro since you can get it refurbished for less than that value?

[@michaelgordon2860]

Any thoughts on the $2000 space black m3 macbook pro vs the Studio Mac M2 Max? I already have a 4k monitor and don't edit that much or leave my house for work. I would like to edit more but even that would be basic editing and no graphics work. I also have a friend who works for Apple so I get a 15% discount. Should I get the M3 to just future-proof even though its less cores all around and memory?

[@LordAlucar01]

thank you it means so much to know how much fps it can do so i can compare it to previous silicon to see the gains of pro against max, right now i own m1 imac 24 inch with 16gb ram and it struggles to keep with my daily task, and today i made the decision to commit to m3 macbook pro 14.2 inch space black reason being is the cheapest pro laptop to get and it takes me few months to get it from 0, compared to max chip which i want but sadly it cost twice the price of pro meaning in waiting time above a year meeaning that next macs will come out by the time i buy a max,thefore i will just commit to the cheapest pro chip this year and learn the laptop but from your video i love the way it looks and shows great results so im sure i will be happy selling my imac for it, it is still brand new i got it less than half year ago but im sick of white basels and light colour and i was hesitating to get pro because it had only grey and silver, while i do belive i will miss 24 inch display of 4.5k resulution it can be solved in time by getting xdrr apple display of 32 inch which is a 6k display with mini led if i prefer size of display, same goes for external add ons like keyboard mice or bluetooth speakers, which could sound like mac studio zone but it is different, it is very expensive and lacks in every aspect aside from power rest.

[@cmgerner]

What is the best value if I come from a M1 16gb Mac Mini that is struggling with my video editing workflow? I don’t know if ai should get M3 Pro (base), M3 Pro (upgraded), M3 MAX (base) or M2 Pro refurbished

[@briansteph]

I'm upgrading from the 2020 M1 MBP...which i believe is 8 core CPU and 8 core GPU. I use Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro (though, not simultaneously), and edit SLOG from my Sony A7 IV in FCP, with some basic color grading/LUTs. My current machine handles this pretty well, but there are certainly some times where it can struggle a bit. Though the base M3 is impressive, my gut tells me that the MBP with the M3 PRO chip (12 core CPU / 18 core GPU) is the move for me and should be plenty of computer, but the Max is tempting as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

[@papercut1987]

wait few months and get a refurbished M3 Max?

[@cv-cq9ry]

Hey, I've just purchased Final Cut Pro educational pkg from Apple. Never used it before. My 2016 Macbook pro just died and I have to get another laptop. How much RAM do you presently have or need to operate Final Cut Pro on a Macbook Pro? What would you suggest?

[@stevengray6055]

Greg -- have you had any success Disabling Time-Dithering on the various MacBook Pro models? It's really hard on the eyes.

[@techap_]

Thanks for the videos and updates on new M3 chips but why is no one comparing 16” MBP M2 MAX, 32GB, 1TB ssd, 12CPU/38GPU with 16” MBP M3 PRO, 36GB, 1TB ssd, 12CPU/18GPU Those results would tell a lot about new chip...

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

The M1 Air 2021 is plenty for me! 😊

[@rumbecker5085]

If it could drive two external displays I would have bought it on day one, besides that it is perfect.

[@cebrium]

Would it make a significant difference if you upgrade the RAM to 24Gb or even just 16Gb for the base model?

[@pocophone2010]

No choice for upgrade. That's why customers are against Apple's policy

[@xxx4651]

m3 pro macbook pro starts with 18gb of ram.

[@cburgos2]

I went with MBP M3 w/16 gb and opted for more battery for a marginal difference and $200 savings.

[@kevinranders]

I just picked up the M3Pro yesterday. This is my first macbook and am moving away from windows laptops. Still have a desktop windows rig that I built for gaming but am enjoying this macbook very much so far.

[@-Burb]

I’m in the same exact situation moving from Windows to Mac but keeping a gaming desktop, probably gonna get myself one of these M3 Pro MBP, how are you liking it?

[@kevinranders]

@@-Burb Man I am loving it. It just works across ally my apple devices (apple watch, ipad, airpod pros, etc) seamlessly. For browsing and consumer media, I haven't been on my gaming PC since purchasing.

[@bhawanigurung9913]

Is it portable or too heavy?

[@kevinranders]

@@bhawanigurung9913 I find it easily portable.

[@imeann...]

Idk why it took so long for me to find your channel, but you make great content!

[@MadScientist7]

Good information

[@husseinmasri901]

when you showed the specs you showed 11 CPU cores and 14 GPU cores for M3 Pro version as well as Geekbench (binned version) but when comparing GFX bench you showed M3 Pro to M2 Pro you showed 18 cores rather than 14. Are you using to models (binned and unbinned) or is it an error or am I just confused?

[@GregsGadgets]

Sorry that is in error it should be 14 core M3 Pro and M3.

[@fototipsandinfo9437]

I'm a Photographer, and use Photoshop and Lightroom, right now I'm using a Dell workstation. I have a 3070 graphics card in it. I also like to play with AI Stable diffusion. Do you think the Base M3 will work for me if I change over to Apple?

[@andyshotx]

10:01 I still cannot decide whether to have M3 at 16gb ram or M3 Pro base... There are no videos explaining which one is better ;-;

[@sid4579]

Obviously the M3 Pro is better lol, if you can afford it, then go for it

[@inu-translatethegamer5986]

What about battery, I'm considering if M3 Pro which have similar bench result compared to M2 Pro would really have that higher eff, and longer batt life, or it just apple bllsht and just go for M3 Max

[@Frankm513]

Can you do video editing and use obs and other tool with the base line M3 pro ?

[@maxcolvin9209]

Great 70’s hair Greg. Lol

[@alexlukas2817]

Battery life differance would be interesting

[@michaellurie9138]

GFX Bench Bar graph is labeled with an m2 MacBook Pro 19 core, when it should be labeled m3. Just a heads up.

[@GregsGadgets]

Yeah sorry filled out the wrong labels for that chart.

[@otter_lurks]

4:42, is this calculation correct? 40% does not align with the graph shown. Also, just browsing the web, the number I saw for Geekbench 6 SC for the M2 was 2592 and for the M3 3084, which is 19% . Still a good improvement but not 40%

[@joshbarnettrealestate]

Thank you!

[@dluu25]

Can you do a battery test between these two?

[@daniloeburneo1259]

Amazing Content. but i'd like to see the vs of M3 base vs M2 PRO. That's the huge question!

[@5GRobo]

It's not a huge question and the answer is simple. Go for the M2 Pro

[@jelle9880]

I am looking to upgrade my 2017 Macbook Pro 13. As programmer the base model should be sufficient but... Seriously my 6 year old base model already had 8GB RAM. 😐😬

[@5GRobo]

Don't get the base with 8GB if ram. What's is this 2006? Get the M2 pro for a great deal or go with M3 Pro.

[@LordBagdanoff]

Can you do a comparison with the M3 pro 11 core CPU and 12 core CPU

[@iamsantiagomora]

I’m considering between the MacBook Air 15in, M2, 16GB Unified Memory, and 516GB SSD Storage and the MacBook Pro 14in, M3, 16GB Unified Memory, and 516GB SSD Storage. It would be a personal laptop, which would be used for college and other personal purposes such as watching videos or playing games. What would you all recommend I get? (I also do have some what if a budget, but I just want something that will last me a few years and is powerful enough)

[@stevewright1539]

If you want the ports, Mini-LED display and updated chip, this is a great alternative to the Air. I may have gone with this over the Air.

[@juanarizapelaez5138]

this entry Macbook Pro M3 makes me think..... is gonna be an Air with M3 only without 120Hz???

[@5GRobo]

Ports? It just has an HDMI out and a card reader...That's all. Get an Anker hub and it will do more plus charge your laptop with one single cable. The screen is smaller than the 15" Air and it's not like it's OLED, so I'd prefer the bigger screen. The Air 15" with 16GB of ram is a better machine for everyday use as a laptop. CPU is not the bottleneck for most people, RAM is. For desktop replacement, you either get the M2 Pro for cheaper or you get the M3 Pro base mode.

[@phxntomplanet]

⁠@@5GRoboif I’m worried about screen size I’m getting the 16” lol

[@5GRobo]

@phxntomplanet but the 16" is not exactly a laptop. It's like a portable workstation with a folding screen. 15" Air can be used on your lap like any laptop, and it's a pleasure to hold in the hands, even better than 14" pro.

[@phxntomplanet]

@@5GRobo that's like saying the 13 inch laptop is too small because it can't be used on your lap unless or legs are close together so its not a laptop.. its an extremely unintelligent answer and its wrong.

[@007abinavsenthilmurugan5]

Hello your review are spot on

[@GregsGadgets]

Glad you enjoyed

[@bhawanigurung9913]

@@GregsGadgetsdo u suggest space black or silver ?

[@vcanato]

You help su so much, thanks. Sadly the link don't work for me (UK) they open M2 devices =/

[@paolaayala2266]

do you reccomend upgrading the specs on the m3 pro?🧐

[@dxxm7955]

16 gb of unified memory for sure and for storage you can get and external memory

[@MarionSerrano]

Your charts are really confusing. The bar is not the same ratio as improvement.

[@abgminhartanah]

How about memory swap between RAM & SSD? is it better from M2 Air?

[@codylutes9655]

I was really thinking about going 14 inch base Pro but decided to pick up the 15 inch Air base model a few days ago. I had a pro from 10 years ago so it was time to upgrade. I might upgrade to the M3 Air if they release that but definitely not going another 10 years without updating it lol

[@5GRobo]

Great job. The 15" is a nicer to use for everyday use. I just hope you upgraded the RAM.

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

Don’t forget about the color. Hope you skipped the midnight one too.

[@haggaikathewela8910]

Pardon me but a blonde question…. Does an 8 core 10GPU 16gb m3 pro still constitute a base and or does it come with only one fan or 2….

[@Quraishy]

Is that a mistake at slide 5:40 it’s suppose to be M3?

[@clemencecharlotte4821]

Hi, i really want to buy a m3 iMac but do you know if the 256gb ssd is slower like on the m2 macs ?

[@andyH_England]

The 256GB is single nand so will be slower, but anyone buying a base iMac is probably not looking at performance. If you need performance I would get a Mac Studio or Mac Mini.

[@cburgos2]

I went with MBP M3 w/16 gb and opted for more battery for a marginal difference vs MBP M3pro and $200 savings.

[@lmallard3788]

I’m glad you showed the cooling fans. It too Apple customer service too many hrs to tell me.

[@CelestialMage.]

For memory what’s better memory that I Can use for University Architectural Engineering Major⁉️

[@johannmadrid8864]

I’m looking to upgrade from MacBook Air 2017intel for college.. I just do normal browsing, Netflix and a little bit of Lightroom classic editing, not photoshop. I was thinking of MacBook Pro m3 with 16gb 512gb. Or just get a m3 pro at this point?

[@oceanelucas6469]

good question, especially seeing the battery life... but most people say the M3Pro is worth it.

[@johannmadrid8864]

yeah I do like the 22hr battery life but they said 8gb is too low @@oceanelucas6469

[@rileyhance318]

people looking at the base m3 model should look at a last gen m2 pro model which can still be found new on sale at 1600 usd. comes with double the cooling, double the ram, 40% more gpu performance and can connect to 2 displays instead of one

[@5GRobo]

so a few understand this

I'd like to see a comparison between the base M3 and the base Mac Mini Pro. They should play the same role in the lineup - the machine in the middle, sitting between base M2/Air and "properly pro" models like Mac Studio/full-fat MacBook Pro...

[@BiggNewt]

They would be very similar performance between the two. Consider the M3 base to be a m2 pro with slightly faster single core speeds.

[@5GRobo]

Negligible difference in CPU/GPU if it's the M2 Mini, but half the RAM, so it's not even worth considering.

[@saab_9]

What does it mean, a better Battery life ?

[@RyanREAX]

Video editing with 10 bit 4:2:2 4k 120 fps, which model? I still have an m1 pro and its...okay..

[@Avm371998]

Would you recommend the macbook air 15inch m2 16gb ram version or the macbook pro m3 with only 8gb ram? They're about the same price...

[@5GRobo]

Absolutely. The CPU is not the bottleneck for everyday use the RAM is. Plus you get a bigger screen, which does make a difference. Also look for the M2 Pro, they can be had for a good price now and they come with 16GB of ram and performance is in line with the M3 Pro.

[@Avm371998]

@@5GRobo thanks for your advice. Yeah i think the m2 air 16gb ram might be better. The m2 pro is like 400 bucks more here in belgium

[@5GRobo]

@@Avm371998 You will love it!

[@simasas9358]

should I get m3 macbook pro base for 2K euros or m3 pro base for 2.6K euros?

[@notsoproguy6755]

You should make a video on entry level 14inch macbook pro m3 pro vs m1 pro

[@5GRobo]

Not needed. The M3 is a terrible machine. Get an M2 Pro or go for M3 Pro

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

I opted for the M3 Pro 16" , why? For me it's the sweet spot between battery life and performance. The M3 Max burns through too much battery for my taste. I do compile code a lot but nowadays the incremental Rust-based compilers are really really efficient and fast.

[@5GRobo]

There shouldn't be too much difference in battery for a given task. M3 Max consumes more, but it finishes faster. The difference is only 2 less E-cores, so shouldn't be that noticeable.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@5GRobo That was certainly not the case for my 14 m1 pro vs M1 max

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

If money wasn’t a problem than I’d of gotten the 16” one. Probably gonna have to get the 14” M3 pro $2000 one.

[@5GRobo]

@@abdurrahmankhan129 Look for a refurbed 16" M2 Pro.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@abdurrahmankhan129 14 is an amazing portable size

[@seray-bx9lm]

finally get some rough mind expecting mapping ideas how this m3 pro version macbk once greg initial test out!😆👨🏻‍💻🧠

[@riley5409]

Would you return a 14” M2 Pro w/ 1TB storage for the M3 or M3 Pro? I have two more days to return it if needed and am unsure of what to do. If I were to get the M3 Pro I would get the option with the lesser cores, as it costs similar to my current M2 Pro.

[@5GRobo]

For the M3 hell no!!! Keep the M2 Pro, unless you can return it and buy one the same for cheaper. If you want the M3 Max, then it makes sense, otherwise keep it. You already have the good machine.

[@abdurrahmankhan129]

I’d think about the M3 pro chip. It’s up to you. If the M2 is cheaper than keep it. Unless you want that space black.

[@BGP_yt]

Black color❤

[@riley5409]

@@5GRobo I was thinking about the M3 Pro w/ a 1TB storage. It has one more CPU core but two less GPU cores. It would be the same price as I paid for my M2 Pro w/ a 1TB storage. Thoughts?

[@5GRobo]

@@riley5409 That extra core of M3 Pro doesn't count, because M3 Pro has one less P-core and 2 more E-cores, which cancel each other out, so they both perform about the same. The less GPU cores also doesn't count because each core is faster. You will get 2GB of ram and a more efficient machine with the M3 Pro, so for the same price, of course return the M2 Pro and get the M3 Pro, but if you got a good deal on M2 Pro on discount, then it's not worth the upgrade unless the 2GB of ram means something to you. It would to me.

[@reddove17]

Please do not start the plot axes from arbitrary values, eg @ 5:06 where it starts from 500 instead of 0 and seems as if the performance doubles, trying to make the differences appear bigger than they actually are, it is a really bad practice.

[@d.av.s2798]

I’m thinking about trading my M1 MacBook Air base model, M2 MacBook Air base model and my M1 iPad Pro since I currently don’t use them very often and I think I need to condense the amount of Apple Stuff I currently own. I want to trade those three devices to get the base model 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro. Do you think that’s a good idea? I’m a sucker for new stuff and honestly I barely use those other devices. What are your thoughts about it Greg? Cheers!

[@5GRobo]

Yes, the base M3 Pro is a good machine, although not as good of a deal as an M2 Pro unbinned chip, which can be had cheaper and it's much faster. The M3 Max binned is the real deal this year.

[@SuperGamerYoBros]

I think you’re right, if someone just wants some of the features from the MacBook pros, but actually doesn’t do any type of pro workflows consistently, or has no ambitions to do any of those workflows then yes the M3 MacBook Pro makes sense. However, this device has no headroom to grow. You didn’t really show any multitasking and any type of multitasking that includes a combination of certain pro level application and maybe more normal applications, and web browsing completely bottlenecks the a 8 GB of ram. The ram pressure is just way higher when you’re multitasking. And if you’re interested in doing any type of pro application that uses GPU performance like blender, you can actually just crash the software if it’s not the only software that you’re running at at the time. So you know I think that in general, if you’re somewhere in between a pro level user and a normal user, the main question to ask yourself is what task do you plan to be doing with this MacBook Pro That would be considered a pro level application? if it’s just video editing with Final Cut Pro, you’re fine to get just a normal MacBook Pro. However, if you want to use multiple Adobe applications at the same time, potentially, da Vinci, resolve, or blender then you might want to look at M3 pro MacBook Pro. I think at a $200 difference after you upgrade to 16 GB of ram it really becomes a hard sell to not move up to the M3 Pro. I think multiple creators and myself could agree on one thing which is I don’t really think this device should be specked up to the 16 GB, if you need that just go to the M2 Pro or M3 pro MacBook Pro. In the battery life debate I do believe is important, but the battery life issues that the 14 inch M2 MacBook Pro had have been significantly mitigated due to the E core and P core allocation on the M3 Pro MacBook Pro 14 inch. Right now that makes the baseline M3 MacBook Pro have about 20% longer battery life over the M3 pro MacBook Pro. I do not think that that’s insignificant, but I think the real world experience of that extra 20% might not be as noticeable as it seems. Like realistically at the end of the day, that’s the difference between having 8% battery leftover versus 12% battery. What I would actually like to see even though this is a harder test is does the M3 have better standby time then the M3 pro MacBook Pro. Because if the M3 can essentially hold its battery longer while not in use in addition to being able to last longer, that would be a really big shifter for me. However if it’s about the same that 20% difference I think you actually get a good trade for that 20%. You actually get a pro level laptop that’s still last incredibly long time, but I feel like if the M3 is going to be a battery champ vs the M3 Pro it’s gotta be like really good not just slightly better than the M3 pro.

[@crosscyl]

I agree! I'd love to see a comparison between the regular M3 24GB and the M3 Pro base, and particularly, how well the battery does. Base M3 with upgraded memory becomes a far better value proposition for a semi-pro user if the battery life is the differentiator

[@jockwar]

I’m only a basic user no fancy stuff so as U say the base M3 sounds good enough for me 👍

[@sgoody1]

Great video - but your point about 8GB Unified Memory on the base model is important - I think most people agree 8GB is not enough (or at least doesn't future proof it) - so once you upgrade that to 16GB, and upgrade to 1TB memory SSD - you are comparing £2099 to £2299 for the M3Pro chip with 1 TB ssd (and you get extras eg more CPU & GPU and an extra port - and "Space Black" rather than "Space Grey"). Just too many choices!! Maybe I should just wait for an M4 chip!!!

[@minuszero332]

In Canada it's a $300 difference if you upgrade the base M3 to 16GB, much more difficult to decide.

[@5GRobo]

It's so easy to decide. for $300 more you get 2GB of more ram, CPU and GPU are 50% faster, SSD is faster, extra cooling system, quieter, extra TB port, extra monitor support. In the PC world with no apple tax, either the CPU and GPU upgrade alone would cost $300. The base M3 in a Pro body is a terrible deal. please don't buy it. If you want a great deal, get a refurbed M2 Pro for less money than the base M3 or go all the way for the M3 Pro base.

[@Hahahaha-qd2oi]

@@5GRobo what about the refurbished m2 pro 10 core cpu 16 core gpu vs m3 pro 11 core cpu 14 core gpu? I am unsure which to get. Its a 500 CAD difference.

[@5GRobo]

@Hahahaha-qd2oi I need to know the RAM and storage for both. These are the same price in the US.

[@Hahahaha-qd2oi]

@@5GRobo both 512 ssd. m2 pro is 16 gb ram and m3 pro is 18 gb ram.

[@5GRobo]

@@Hahahaha-qd2oi $500 more for only 2GB more RAM and better battery life. Everything else is the same including CPU & GPU performance.

[@JonnieR]

Actually based level M3 is not necessarily a PRO performance, its just a PRO hardware. Pro performance starts with the M3 Pro.

[@wazitSomethingISaid]

got the 16 inch base model m3 pro but its too big..... but i like it... its just not as portable as i would like...... now i dunno if i should get get the base model m3 or pay 500 extra for the pro chip

[@City-Hiker]

Mac Connection selling 16GB Ram, 512GB Hard drive for $1499 only. Which is $300 discount.

[@TheHobbyistChannel]

Was the two screens that got me to pro, needed two man

[@MH-pn9od]

M3 pro is a little bit too expensive atm, and I don’t like the M3. Now the question is should I get a M1 Pro or M2 pro. Requirements are 1 tb and 16 GB unified.

[@Jesperrescue]

I got myself an MacBook Pro M3-pro chip (just the base 11core/14core version). When I use it for light tasks the battery life is amazing. taking notes and browsing during lectures resulted in a 7 hour use time with 86% battery left. I wonder if those 18 hours displayed when you buy the computer is for quiet heady duty work. If I use it for light tasks the battery would last days. right now just using it for light tasks like programming and Matlab occasionally. the future will be more heavy duty 3d modeling and engineering simulating programs. Conclusion. MacBook 14" M3-Pro is a quite amazing machine, I would not take into account the battery life difference between 18 and 22 hours. even this one has more than anyone could utilize. don't buy the base model unless you're on a budget

[@LordBagdanoff]

What’s your ram?

[@VeitLehmann]

Since the introduction of Apple silicon, it's the time of refurbished/preowned MacBooks in my opinion. M1 (Pro) is more than enough for most people, and even the old Intel models are getting really attractive now since their prices have fallen so much. I just bought a 16" i9 because I need to connect 2 external screens, want a big screen and good speakers, and I want to run x64 VMs. For most people, I'd recommend an M1/M2 MacBook Air, and if you need more than one external display, an M1 MBP. I think for most people, M1 Pro or M2 Pro is a better buy than an M3 (Pro) MBP. The M3 Max MBP made a huge leap, that's where going for the new one can really make sense.

[@grzymsiu]

Well, i am still on intel 13 inch and i am an indie dev, so my apps are not so large and complicated, but still need to run docker etc. 8gb of ram is not even a joke in this times, especially that is shared with graphics, Next thing is that crappy single fan, and only one monitor support. If i am not mistaken even 2 port old 13 inch intel MBP could run 2 external monitors. So... ram upgrade is a must. It is 18 hundred bucks. For 200 bucks more you have better cooling, better cpu and gpu, support for 2 monitors which you could consider pro feature maybe 20 years ago, and 2 gigs of ram. If i will buy a new one it will be probably m3 pro model.

[@BiggyLittles]

Should I get a m3 or used m2 pro? It’s on sale for 1600 from Apple.

[@5GRobo]

M2 Pro beats M3 in everything except battery life, which was already lasting all day, so answer is very clear.

[@MarionSerrano]

Also your tests with GPU is not the binned model M3 Pro.

[@rafestratton8019]

Yeah its quite confusing. The CPU test says 11 core which comes with a 14 core GPU but the graphics one is an 18 core GPU which means the CPU must be 12 core. So which M3 Pro chip did you use!?

[@GregsGadgets]

I used the binned M3 Pro, the chart is a typo, sorry for the confusion.

[@yay4meluigi]

8GB of memory on a MacBook “Pro” at the end of 2023 is inexcusable. It’s nice to hear that it’s a moderately performant machine though.

[@City-Hiker]

That’s why there are many resellers offer 16GB Memory Ram MacBook Pro with $200 -$300 discount. Let’s say Mac Connection, Insight Enterprises, CDW are offering $1499-$1599.

[@ST14_109]

Just get refurbished 16 gb ram for 70 dollar discount it’s pretty much new or get m2 pro for same price with far better performanxe

[@TiesiogJazokas]

Just got used macbook pro M1 13.3" 16gb 1tb for 1k €. Happy

[@dawgcanjumphigh]

If I were to buy the new 14" MacBook Pro, I'd upgrade the RAM, max that out and max out the storage, 512GB of storage isn't enough. I do run most of my work and save them on external drives, but, more storage is just better. That cost will go up to $2,599 for it. That's for the regular M3 one they sell now. I already have the 2021 14" MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip with 1TB of storage, of course I spent big on this, it does the job for me, so don't expect me to upgrade. I think Apple is targeting people with old intel MacBooks to do the upgrade.

[@MrZerg0403]

What is the size of ssd in the test?

[@GregsGadgets]

512gb

[@nurdarar2158]

How good is the binned m3 max chip?

[@5GRobo]

For CPU? It's the real deal. Great value

[@tipoomaster]

Someone from Apple just claimed their 8GB is analagous to 16GB on a Windows PC (lmao). I think you should put that to the test. Not using an Intel mac with a chip designed 10 years ago, using a hyper modern competitor from AMD or Intel, 16GB vs 8 on a mac, through heavy data sets that exceed 8GB, not just swapping around a few small programs that swap could mask ok.

[@oliverlison]

How can 8GB equal to 16GB? The file size is often equal to each other. A 30MB jpg image remains a 30MB jpg image and needs to be put somewhere with all the other stuff that is going on.

[@caryg4638]

@@oliverlisonThanks to the unified memory, they use the swap of the SSD for RAM shortage. You will lose long-term reliability, but, effectively, the RAM doesn't matter in that case because the unified memory is handling it just like a 16 GB RAM machine would.

[@tipoomaster]

@@oliverlison Believe me I know it's cap. If I'm performing an operation on hundreds of thousands of rows of data, they have to be somewhere physically fast, they don't exist in aether. Anything that swaps to SSD has access times in ms, not RAM's ns, one millisecond is 1000000 nanoseconds if anyone needs the reminder so I'm not exaggerating when I say several orders of magnitude slower. Despite techtubers also only looking at peak sequential read speeds you almost never hit real world except in single big file transfer. If you need RAM, you need RAM, there's no way around it. Unified is just faster when you share data from CPU to GPU or the other way because of no pool swapping, but otherwise the physicality of RAM remains.

[@tipoomaster]

@@caryg4638 Apple Silicon didn't invent swap and unified RAM has nothing to do with it, you're just throwing a bunch of different concepts together as an explanation... If I'm performing an operation on hundreds of thousands of rows of data, they have to be somewhere physically fast, they don't exist in aether. Anything that swaps to SSD has access times in ms, not RAM's ns, one millisecond is 1000000 nanoseconds if anyone needs the reminder so I'm not exaggerating when I say several orders of magnitude slower. Despite techtubers also only looking at peak sequential read speeds you almost never hit real world except in single big file transfer. If you need RAM, you need RAM, there's no way around it. Unified is just faster when you share data from CPU to GPU or the other way because of no pool swapping, but otherwise the physicality of RAM remains.

[@5GRobo]

It's not and these youtubers are not smart enough to see through the BS

[@christlinah]

Tbh the Space Black color alone makes the M3 Pro the better choice IMO :D

[@Aviation_tech441]

If you were to ask me I would buy the 15 inch MacBook Air M2 As that is already more powerful then most windows

[@JEMustang]

M3 gets super hot during load, why they only put 1 fan in it I have no idea. Will for sure get the Pro.

[@brandonlong2796]

M3 pro vs m2 pro… quite interesting in performance

[@_shreyash_anand]

It will be interesting to see the upcoming M3 Air because that is of course, fanless. Probably gonna throttle a lot

[@GregsGadgets]

Yours is getting hot?

[@5GRobo]

Why did you buy a machine with 8GB of ram in 2023? It makes no sense!

[@brandonlong2796]

@@5GRobo because they wanted to. You going to buy them a computer ?

[@Niccaman]

Finally someone mentioned the battery benefits of the base M3. 25% boost over the M3 Pro is no joke, right!?

[@5GRobo]

It was already lasting all day anyway, so unless you're a survivalist or really need that extra a few hours, then it's not a selling point.

[@OviLazar]

@@5GRobo It might be for those of us who want to keep these laptops long-term and are worried about battery degradation.

[@5GRobo]

@@OviLazar The battery can be changed in the future, but the RAM can't and the apps will keep getting bigger and bigger and they will only use more RAM. 8gb of RAM is not enough today, let alone for the long term.

[@OviLazar]

@@5GRobo Agreeed, but i was definitely thinking about the 166 gb upgrade...

[@5GRobo]

@@OviLazar Then for $200 more you get 50% more CPU, 50% more GPU, faster SSD, 2GB extra ram, extra cooling, extra TB port, extra display support. You'll get your money back once you sell it used in a few years and then get a new one with a new battery.

[@timothythorpe4667]

give back the touch bar still have the option not have it

[@BizzleByron]

I value efficiency over power and was really tempted to upgrade my M1 to the M3. That 8gb of ram is a real deal breaker though.

[@5GRobo]

Yes, and by the time you add the extra ram, you'd be out of your mind not to order the M3 Pro for so much more performance and features.

[@andre7184]

Not sure about that regarding the video, 16gb plus 1to Hard Drive still better deal for most of the people using a MacBook Pro for editing video and gaming!!if you don't planned to plug 2 external screen....what else do you need in real world????@@5GRobo

[@5GRobo]

@andre7184 Value for money, which also translates to a better resell value. The real Pro is a much faster machine with double the cooling, which also makes less noise. Faster SSD, the extra port, 2gb more ram and of course the extra display support. The CPU upgrade alone is worth $200 in the PC world, where there is no Apple tax, so all the other stuff are free. Even if I didn't need all the extra features, which I need all of them, I'd still go for the M3 Pro for $200 more, because I will get most if not all of it back when it's time to resell. If you order it in the new color, you'll get the $200 back in full in a couple of years.

[@pimentovski2011]

Just found a deal for the M3 with 24GB of ram and 2TB for the price of ... base M3 model. I know all about the M3pro chip advantage... but the M3 will do !

[@5GRobo]

@@pimentovski2011 Well, if that's a real deal and you're not being scammed, then I don't need to tell you that's too good to be true!

[@TheFuxxoWorksGarage]

also, Pro version comes with two fans, instead of one in regular M3

[@andre7184]

Is it a deal breaker??

[@razor2049]

@@andre7184 yes

[@razor2049]

Is it confirmed That the pro Haus 2. i waiting for News about That. I dont buy a one Fan MacBook

[@TheFuxxoWorksGarage]

@@andre7184 nope, not for me it isnt :-D i am a MAX buyer anyway.. but if was in market for M3, i wouldnt care anyway..

[@sammyjammy6647]

Having only 8 GB of ram in 512 SSD is not future proofing that machine. Better to get the unbinned M3 pro with two fans, 12 core cpu, 18 core gpu, 18gb ram, and 1TB for the $2399 price point.

[@bryans8656]

I'm sure glad I didn't purchase one of the M2 MBPs when they released.