M3 Max Macbook Pro: Not Worth Upgrading

[@tonytech5520]

This is the first video I've watched about the new M3 Macbook Pro that doesn't start with the so cliché , unboxing, teardown, synthetic benchmarks, and thermals. It goes straight to the things that really matter to the end user, and I appreciate that.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

which is forcing apple products on others because they are so amazing :)

[@star_man]

They deliberately pad the video to get more runtime to increase the money they earn. It's annoying.

[@samwbh6951]

100% M3 is not worth it.

[@patrickhussain7163]

​@@samwbh6951what's your experience?

[@DirtyCuttinScoundrel]

lol unless ur editing for paramount or Netflix sure.

[@RealityStudioLLC888]

The reason the M3 Max was twice as fast at encoding in Premiere Pro than your M1 Pro is because their "Max" products have double the video encoders of the "Pro" products. I initially had bought an M1 Pro (also switched from Windows) and ended up switching it again an M2 Max because I saw double the encoding time. I suspect if you had an M1 Max the encoding time would not be as huge of a difference as you saw compared to the M3 Max.

[@shiladitya_biswas]

Thanks for this really small but very crucial nugget of information. I didn’t know they have dedicated number of codecs for different chip type.

[@graxxor]

M1 Max was thermally limited in laptops and didn’t perform Much better than the Pro in many cases after a few minutes of heating up.

[@ryanw8664]

I tested exporting video files on two M1 Macs when they first came out - a Pro and Max variant. To my great surprise, the Max was not faster so I kept the Pro for better battery life. Maybe things have changed now.

[@RealityStudioLLC888]

Interesting, for me the render speed doubled from 51fps on the M1 Pro to 102fps on the M2 Max, that's on Davinci Resolve. @@ryanw8664

[@kpbendeguz]

@@graxxor Only the 14". The 16" M1 Max with some fan speed adjustment (setting the fans to speed up faster at lower temperatures than default) never throttles.

[@GuitarZero2Hero]

This is the video I needed to see! Thanks for this great video! I already have an M1 Max and this has put my FOMO to rest. Happy to wait the extra few minutes on an export

[@vblack7372]

Couldn't have said it better

[@poggybitz513]

Thank you for teaching me guitar. You're a legend.

[@GuitarZero2Hero]

@@poggybitz513 thank you!

[@mozza7189]

I remember watching your videos when you first bought the Mac. I was watching lots of reviews at the time as I wanted to move from Windows to a MacBook Pro. I did eventually buy one and I can honestly say it’s the best experience I have ever had. My old Windows laptop took forever to load, the Mac takes seconds.

[@hassanahmed1755]

I think I will do the same as you. I really hated Windows OS. And everything about Windows. My only reason for using this garbage machine was the price and upgradeable option. But ISO if just more logical and more organised and just more simple, beautiful, and joy to work with. To the limit, you can do things blindly once you get adopted to the system. You know where everything is. Windows updates are just one of those painful journeys you hate to go through. Every time, they issue new update. I am way past that. I am happy to pay apple more for that alone, never the less the fact all their hardware is home grown and well optimised to work togeather.

[@samwbh6951]

Intel is slow 🐌 so i use mbp 1 till arm chips get released in Windows then I'll jump ship to win. I like win ui better.

[@mikkelkristiansen3694]

“I really like this darker finish, I just feel like it looks so much better, I’m kidding” 😂😂😂

[@Sintsoij]

He got me with that one 😂

[@sebastianreiprich3747]

For a brief moment he got me with that one 😂

[@irfanyaqub9643]

Give old one to me. 🤓😅

[@dheeraj3945]

If this guy didn't buy it just for being black, I guess the colour has nothing to do with it 😂

[@shred3005]

Actually I dropped by the local Apple Store and that new black does look good and doesn’t show the finger prints.

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

Yeah, this was a cool and different approach to these new machines. I totally agree with the M1's trouncing Photoshop. I have never encountered a problem. FCPX is a different story though, same with Chrome with lots of tabs open.

[@stadtjer689]

Which M1 is that?

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

@@stadtjer689 M1 Pro MacBook 16"

[@AstroTwist]

6:23 😅😅😅

[@JRskatrPvP]

Chrome with lots of tab open is like I’m using a toaster.. granted I’m using a M1 MacBook Air but still, I feel like it shouldn’t be running that slowly….

[@adventure9606]

I don't have FCP however photoshop with 17 chrome tabs open does not slow down for me, 16inch M1 Pro.

[@987dcm]

The bit about Patrick brought me so much joy. “He’s an old grumpy man…” and then his reaction. The best 😂

[@nbmsc]

I love these videos man, you seriously need to keep these type emails going. I watched you two years ago when you first switch from Windows to MAC and because of you I also switch from Windows to MAC.....love this, can't wait what you bring out next

[@jgates]

I look forward to seeing the video with Patrick using the Macbook Pro M1!

[@travel9to5]

Absolutely agree! I made the controversial choice and got myself the M2 Air. Does the job as a video editor very well and I am mostly using 4K ProRes footage from the R5 which is notorious for big file sizes

[@thomastuorto9929]

I was on Apple's website an hour ago. No M2 offered unless refurbished. A phone call or visit to an Apple store might turn a new one up. I just do photography with not to much layer work so... I record some short wildlife/nature vids but never even edited 1. I doubt I need anything more than the MI/M2. I'm thinking Studio for home & Air for traveling/light editing & backing up to 2 external drives

[@weekendintokyo]

Just get a m3 max 14 inch instead of a studio and an air; the m3 max basically has the same performance of the studio and a 14inch m3 max weighs only 300grams more than an air @@thomastuorto9929

[@nelsonZeledon]

I’m thinking of getting g the base max mini m2 for 500$ You think it’ll be good for editing pro res 4K

[@thomastuorto9929]

@@nelsonZeledon enough room on it for your software & video files?

[@nelsonZeledon]

@@thomastuorto9929 I have tons of external storage so not a problem honestly

[@TheRonellCross]

Thanks for the real-world (no BS) insightful video. Premiere is often the least optimized NLE to test a machine on. If you have the time, try comparing the M1/M3 using Resolve, and or, Final Cut.

[@vblack7372]

I have a whole bunch of these M1 vs M3 videos in my watch later, but your perspective here cleared it all up for me.

[@thewatchersofthewood3530]

I am so happy I got my 14" MacBook Pro M1 Max 64GB and 4TB From B&H this year for $2,200 brand new at closeout . Its is such a great computer and would have cost $5,000 from Apple back in the day. I never buy the current computers from Apple anymore, just get the previos one and its such a huge savings.

[@doompod]

Buying a used M1 Max computer is a great option as well. I’m seeing pretty huge discounts. You can get a M1 Max 16” MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM/4TB SSD for $3,000. Apple sells the same model refurbished for $3,600+, and it probably went for around $4,500+ new. I don’t need an M2 or an M3.

[@christophermilson8378]

Love your "no bs" approach and really appreciate your videos!

[@yannisstath]

ive seen many great reviews for the new MacBook pros but this is the one I needed to see. hard and real.

[@FStoppers]

How about you give me half of the $4k I saved you ;)

[@yannisstath]

great idea! but can you just send me a new MacBook Pro instead because you are the best KZbin channel ever?@@FStoppers

[@JimKanaris]

Yup, thanks for keeping it real! I'd love to upgrade my 16" M1 Pro but I can't for the life of me come up with a valid reason to do so; that's how friggen flawless this thing is! As a techie, it's cool to track the innovation but in the real world, where context is important, the improvements are close to negligible if minutes don't feed your number-porn left brain--or your not in the industry where such increments are, I admit, arguably significant. Love this video!

[@Darragh1]

I've been waiting for the 3nm M3 chips since 2020, hence I bought a Lenovo X1 ThinkPad Extreme, sold it this year for €1000 just so I can get new M3 Macbook Pro MAX.

[@JimKanaris]

@@Darragh1 sounds reasonable to me!

[@cuve_ae]

I’m buying a brand new M1 16” (16gb/1tb) next month and am hyped!

[@JimKanaris]

@@cuve_ae Like I said, great machine! Don't let the current hype surrounding the M3 Pro/Max rob you of your excitement. You. will. not. regret. it.

[@cuve_ae]

@@JimKanaris thank you brother, I’m happy for those getting it but my needs and wants are met with the M1 Pro. I have a base M2 MacBook Air and base + cellular M1 iPad Air for school and those things will last me 3-5 years easy and the M1 MBP is a guaranteed decade reliability machine.

[@emilianohasan]

I've found your channel on YT recommandations and I can say that you are a great KZbinr love your channel and the way you presents everything! Thanks man!

[@VonNoir]

Coming from an intel MBP to a M3 Max 14 inch. It's definitely a worthy upgrade. I think the M3 is meant to entice the last of the Intel Mac users who are holding out.

[@TheThaiLife]

Yea, it's hard to be immune to the marketing barrage we experience from creators and benchmarks. But I guess the thing is that the overhead on my laptop, even with 32 GB unified memory is like 60-70% typically. The M3 is like 20-100% faster than my 9-month M2 Max but I have to remind myself, the current bottleneck of my work is me. Not the current machine. I can be exporting a multi-layer Sony A7IV HVEC 4K footage, downsampled from 7K, with noise removal on one screen. Editing RAW 33 megapixel photos in lightroom on another screen while the video export is going and having a 3rd screen with non-stuttering KZbin. I'm not even bothering to close the Word docs, chrome tabs (usually like 20+ as I'm a technical recruiter) or anything. So like, I'd love to have a new one but for what?

[@ROAMitRALPH]

The M1 Pro was my first Mac too, only thing I was upset about was the fact I didn’t switch from Windows years ago

[@latinstuff1]

well yeah lol written from another M1 pro ;)

[@CheckTime]

I just bought a new 14 M1Max 64GB/2TB with an incredible discount for just $2300, and I'm really happy about it.

[@EthanSkinner-vb9ww]

4 months later was it still worth it?

[@CheckTime]

@@EthanSkinner-vb9ww Hi. Absolutely yes, the computer does not degrade its performance at all due to lack of RAM. Right now 51gb of memory is loaded and this is normal daily value, 0 bytes of swap. I don't have to think about system resources, I just work.

[@EthanSkinner-vb9ww]

@@CheckTime good insight thanks

[@MikeJobsonUK]

I just bought the M3 Max with 48Gb RAM... reason is my M1 Pro only had 16Gb of RAM which was not nearly enough for me with my workload. The memory swap issue is real with only 16Gb. That and I also upped from 14" to 16" but should be super happy with the new one. If I got 32Gb with the M1 Pro in the first place I imagine I wouldn't be upgrading.

[@taylorhickman84]

I made the mistake of going w/ 8 gb ram when purchasing my M1 13" years ago. It's fast enough for much of my photo editing, but learning that the mac utilizes the SSD to supplement the RAM, now I fear the SSD is not long for this world.

[@Domineon]

I have an M1 Max 32Gb and am considering upgrading only because I switched to Dual 4k monitors. I'm sitting at 23 GB with a few safari tabs, and KZbin is 1.3 GB.

[@Calikid24]

Same I went with the M3 Max 36gb, On my M1 Pro I was always using swap and my battery health was 70%. I couldn't justify the extra 500$ for the 48gb though. I got a decent trade in value for my Mac over 1K so I'm hoping this new one last me longer than 2 years cause I don't want to upgrade for 3-5 years at least.

[@psysword]

Same here. M1 pro with 16 gb is struggling balls with music and videos if I toss in a few plugins on 5k raw footage and 192 khz audio. So I'm thinking of m3 max 14/30 cores with 96 gb ram vs 16/40 with 48 gb ram. What's your suggestion? Thanks.

[@Calikid24]

I Feel like the sweet spot would be the 16/40 with 64gb ram option it would also be more cost elective like $100+ less than the 16/30 96gb@@psysword

[@Clemme]

Nice video man! I'm using the M1 Pro 10/16 as my main editing computer and Im always editing in ProRes. I rely on a lot of third-party plugins in FCP, and most of the time, it's snappy. The only thing I regret is opting for 16GB of RAM instead of 32GB. However, after installing CleanMyMacX and running the 'free up memory' option before editing, it has become super snappy again. The biggest problem Apple faces is that they've made the M1 Pro/M1 Max so good that it doesn't really make sense to upgrade to M2/M3 Pro/Max in most situations. Only if you're exporting all the time, but who does that? Not the majority of users, I'd assume. The single-core performance of the M1 Pro/Max is still insane, and single-core performance remains one of the most important aspects for a smooth workflow in FCPX.

[@ruleofones]

This is THE single most useful video on the internet regarding this product. I’m sure once it’s been a few weeks more videos like this may exist, but this right now is exactly what I needed. I have a 16” M1 pro and this smacked the luster right off that shiny object. Plus, explaining the objective reason why you upgraded adds to the utility of this video.

[@matadormartin]

Before the M1 Pro I was constantly tempted to upgrade, but I've used it since launch and it's hard to think of anything that really justified buying a newer model. I guess maybe when I use Resolve to de-noise very occasionally, or how long it might take to stabilise a shot, but realistically that is not really changing my life. Time to sit on this laptop for as long as I can.

[@roberthuff3122]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 💸 *A comparison between the old M1 Pro and the newly upgraded M3 Max MacBook Pro.* - The introduction of the two laptops in question and identification of the costs. - Remarks on why an upgrade seems unnecessary due to the existing M1 Pro performing very well. 01:09 🖥️ *Practical comparison of real-life usage, not abstract benchmarks.* - Emphasis on the importance of daily usage experience over numerical performance benchmarks. - Commentary on how the old M1 Pro handles multi-tasking and heavy applications like Photoshop, Premiere, and Chrome flawlessly. 03:55 🔄 *Performance in exporting videos or images and rendering effects.* - Comparison of both laptops' speed in exporting Adobe Premiere videos and raw files from Lightroom. - Observation that the new M3 Max can be significantly faster but argues whether the extra speed is really necessary or noticeable in daily use. 05:44 🎁 *Upgrade Decision: Based more on external factors than performance itself.* - Rationalization for the purchase of the new M3 Max, which includes future workstation plans and the intent to pass on the M1 Pro computer to a business partner who is a Windows user. 07:06 😠 *An upcoming humorous project of a Windows-user forced to use Mac.* - Description of a planned challenge where the business partner, a Windows-user, will be forced to use a Mac device for a week. - Anticipation of hilarity due to partner's lack of ability to adjust to new software or hardware. 08:54 📷 *Contest promotion for photographers using Tamron lenses.* - Promotion of a portrait photography contest with the winning prize being Tamron’s camera lens and other attractive prizes for the runners-up. Made with HARPA AI

[@Bushidounohana]

Great perspective and real talk on necessity of upgrading. Also, very interested to see Patrick’s experience!

[@lightexplorer]

Dude I absolutely love your videos. Keep on killing it man.

[@akhimohamed]

I'm a game developer and I use the M1 Pro, which handles the workload efficiently. Initially, I hesitated about upgrading to the M3 Pro, but after watching this video, my concerns were resolved.

[@vitusyu9583]

Your review is the most candid and personal sharing, in my point of view.

[@EliteAtlantaHomes]

You didn’t clarify your computer specs which would’ve been super helpful. I have the M1 MacBook Pro pro chip 16gb ram 512 storage and can’t play back 4k footage smoothly once I add a speed ramp and motion blur to a clip.

[@compaadres88]

We need more people like you. For what I need it’s perfect.

[@tomphillips8739]

Good review as usual, a REAL review not hyperbole. Great advice and examples.

[@pmjon8420]

A really refreshing take. I'd being going back and forth about upgrading but this has just made me realise I really don't need to ...... Yet! Thanks man

[@NatJSBelza]

As always, great insight man! In my case, though the upgrade from a 2019 mbp 16" with intel chip to this new computer will be so much worth every penny. I've got a chance to use a base M1 mbp 13" recently in my work and the difference is night and day in a very good way. Every way, except the of course the smaller screen. But if the base M1 impressed me so much, improved my productivity and mobility, what more with these latest machines. At 6:23 though, I wasn't prepared for that. The pause, the anticipation, and the first reason made me crack. Good times man.😅

[@The-Tall-Photographer]

I so love you guys. I’ve been following you for years and it’s great to see you still get on. I’m using an M1 16in btw and I love the thing.

[@bruceatkinson6438]

You just saved me some money. I had an M3 Max in my cart and this video popped up in my recommended. I’m going to keep my M1 Pro. My worst case use is similar to your examples.

[@animegeek6118]

Finally someone with real information instead of BS synthetic benchmarks that mean nothing to like 90% of people. I’m just getting into photography so any real use information about what I need to editing photos is helpful.

[@iammojojoartist]

Totally Agreed! I will stick to M1 Pro, never realised that yes it's an expensive machine till date. Can easily sustain for the next 2 years down the line.

[@MarbsMusic]

I loved the comment about the new color! Very real review which I think many people miss! I remember watching your videos about switching and I was in a similar situation so they were all very real. Can't wait to see how your friends experience goes!

[@brandonedling]

Subscribed because this is the sanest, most rational, down-to-earth tech review I’ve ever watched. Is a couple minutes worth spending $6k? Maybe, for a select few. But for normal people? Go grab a cup of coffee or take a bio break. It’s called work/life balance.

[@arturoehr]

Finally someone not talking like previous models are unusable, great content btw!

[@morrisgetman9827]

Yaaaay!!! Bravo! Patrick, we’re very excited to see your video! Do it, you won’t regret it, I promise! Love you guys.

[@CwazyWabbits]

Finally retiring my 2015 MBP, it's got slow enough to be frustrating with 50mp photos and has developed a fault causing random crashes. Hopefully an M3 will last me just as long!

[@FStoppers]

You’re about to have your mind blown

[@clintmallon]

This video is freaking awesome!! Totally my style. You just got another subscriber so thank you for putting this together.

[@DocRock]

The M3 speed increases on all the software you mentioned won’t show right away just like the M1. You friends at Adobe needs to update their software to catch up completely. So while everybody is saying you’re keeping it real… ya not really cause it will get faster. Also this upgrade is for the stragglers still on Intel and those of us with budgets or leases. Apple doesn’t expect normal usage people to swap two year old computers.

[@jackdominiak445]

I think the rendering differences are huge especially for 3D designers, which I suspect is the next niche market Apple wants to get hold of with these M3's, however you're absolutely spot on, you have to have bigger reasons to upgrade than just speed bumps to small parts of your work flow. Personally, I wanted a better, bigger screen, better speakers, better web cam & snappier browsing experience, than what I had on my 13" M1 MacBook Pro. I went for the M3 with 16gb of RAM, couldn't be happier. Good Video BTW, full of common sense 👏

[@octny]

16gb or 18gb Ram?

[@supermolo100]

Since the beginning of the 90s, I used to build my own PCs I used to say that I would never switch to Mac but Windows 8 came out then I switch to Mac and never look back. I’ve been a happy camper since then.

[@Samtagri]

8:18 the pure joy on Lee’s face makes me laugh out loud.

[@BrotherO4]

So did he ever make that video? No links in the description to his channel

[@TrevorDennis100]

This video is six months old, but I can't find a follow up with how Patrick got on. Did the idea die before it started? Is Patrick's content on a different channel? I loved the series of videos Lee has done on his Macbook, and they are probably what decided me to try a Mac. I'd already come to the conclusion that an MBP would be 30% lighter with double the battery life of the MS Surface Studio I was looking at. My M2 Pro with 1Tb drive might be here tomorrow, and I can't wait. Strangely, it is learning the new OS that I am most looking forward to.

[@Samtagri]

6:27 lollllll!!!! Lee’s sense of humor is really down my ally lolllllllll!!!!!!

[@kerimdemir1712]

I like his reaction. I would love to see him ending up loving the Mac =) Can't wait

[@NavyBluesandShoes]

I just got a 14in M3 Max MacBook Pro. This was a huge upgrade from the 2016 intel MacBook 15 in.

[@aaronjonellhall1937]

The most honest review I've watched of a MacBook Pro

[@remikus]

Lee, for long time I rather watch you giving honest, no BS review then those openings and stats with percentage how much new is faster than older one. Who cares? You have always healthy approach to the tech and thank you for doing it. 👍🏻

[@TheVoiceofReason4ya]

This. My m1 Pro 16'' base will be good for likely 10 years like most macs. Love the outro/intro reactions for the next video.

[@8800handsomecurt]

I am watching this on my MacBook 16-inch M1 Pro. This thing is plenty of power! Great review!

[@Kirkster131]

On an i9 MBP from 2019…. Been waiting on a huge bump to upgrade. This looks like a good time to buy a new one.

[@barrakelmahmoud]

I'm stoked for the upcoming video of Patricks report! looking forward to it.

[@mkleng]

Hey buddy, colours aside 😂 … do you mean.. that I am quite safe buying the iMac M1 for my 9 year old boy for his homework and learning to code? I’ll probably learn alongside him as well (Scratch Jr!! 😂) .. Apart from that, I’ll probably also use it to organise and manage holiday photos and videos on Apple Photos (Lightroom is a wee bit too much for me). Any advice?? 🙏

[@rydmike]

Lol, thanks for a fun and insightful video. That twist with forcing your friend to use the MacBook M1 Pro will be hilarious to follow. Like you I switched from lifetime on Windows to a MacBook Pro M1 about the same time you did. Watched your original experience of that and had all the same frustrations. A lot of the things on macOS still drives me bonkers, like poor multi monitor and windows snapping UX, some parts in the file manager (finder), mouse scroll wheel, cmd vs ctrl, but you configure it a bit, add some free open source fixes, and most of it gets ok or better. The app menus on top of the screen still drives me nuts on 4k screens at native res, they are often so far away from the app window that it becomes really bad ux, makes no sense. Still the hardware is outstanding and it just works through my tasks effortlessly, silently, cool and at same speed on battery when needed. I code btw, so almost no photo/video editing. Like you, I use 2x 4k external monitors, plus the laptop screen, all are mounted on arms. No issues, everything is smooth, whatever I do, plus 100 browser tabs. When I started using it, macOS would randomly swap the placement of the identical 4k monitors, took a year of frustration, but they have silently fixed it, I think so, since I have not seen that issue in months. I see no reason to upgrade from a M1 Pro with 32GB of ram at the moment, other than yes more screens, but I am pretty ok with current 2 monitor setup too. Looking forward to seeing what you do with more monitors and how you set it up.

[@FStoppers]

Sounds like we are the same person

[@oliverlison]

I am trying to transistion from Windows to MacOS for 3 Months now. I did not have a lot of time because I was on many business trips. MacOS drives me nuts for the most simple operations.

[@adamkennylau7950]

Same here, windows user converted to Mac. BUT what I want to know is why a career creator like yourself is sticking to a 14 inch and not the 16 incher? Wouldn't the extra screen real estate improve your editing experience? Can u make a video about that? Much appreciated.

[@adamkrauss303]

Probably because he uses his two 4K monitors when doing major edits most of the time.

[@jackdominiak445]

Mobility, he has 2 huge monitors for his heavy work loads

[@siewkimng1085]

Lool gonna love the update to this series!

[@fshtank]

Thank you ! Real life experience is what counts. Not the 1/3 of a second I save doing a process that’s already 20x faster than what I was using before.

[@BarryCoombs1]

Thanks for a real world review. I’ll be coming from a 2017 Intel I5 so any of the M powered MacBook Pros will be big upgrade for me. LR exports from my new R5 & R3 Canon’s are taking an absolute age compared to my old 1Dx Mk1 files. Not sure why as the file sizes aren’t massively different but my old MacBook Pro really struggles with them.

[@MarioMajercak]

I have M1 Pro with 16 gb ram and 500gb ssd and to be onest it struggle with Raw Photos from my R5 and when i export 4K videos to final cut it strugles too so i will upgrade to 38 gb ram M3Pro Mac definetly

[@BarryCoombs1]

@@MarioMajercak Good to know that even though R5 RAW files are big things. Is it the RAM holding it back as I don't fancy paying for an upgrade on RAM if it's not needed. I'd expect the new machines to fly whichever RAM is in there or am I expecting too much?

[@JElster666]

Thanks for bringing the “real world” back from fantasy….. so easy to get caught up in all the hype for upgrade after upgrade, but in the cold light of day….. always best to use your head and save $$$$ than go with your rose coloured spectacles!! 😀 Loved the video and the style of presentation!! 👍

[@stephenelliott7071]

I agree, but that's why Apple kept mainly attacking the Intel-based Macbook Pro systems - to get people to upgrade! Now that is a big upgrade, rather than M1 or M2 systems.

[@DigiDriftZone]

It would be great to see a comparison of the 14 core vs 16 core M3 Max, I can't seen to find any!

[@man-bagdammit2297]

I was a lifelong Windows user from Windows 95 on… I used Windows 3.1 sporadically. I switched to MacOS in 2015 with a 5K iMac and i will never go back to Windows. Compared to MacOS, Windows is bloatware and a troubleshooting pain in the ass…. I got so sick of it. I am not a creator, so i dont need anything close to an M3 MAX laptop, however i upgraded to an M2 MacBook Air (16 GB) in the summer and it’s fantastic. I’ll get 2 or 3 years use out of it then hand it down to my son who will be going to University.

[@nickrabauliman9164]

First personally owned Mac that I got coming off from Windows based laptops, was the 2020 MacBook Air M1 base model which I got in 2021. Still use it as my daily driver until this day. I don't do any video editing and or rendering, or much photo editing to be honest, with the minimal stuff that I do use it for has been great, and I don't feel that I will upgrade from my M1 for a long time. Awesome video!

[@chrismc753]

So when is the follow up to this video???

[@damianbereza6901]

Looking forward to see Patrick with M1. Great video with a real opinion of photographer

[@VeitLehmann]

That's exactly what people need to hear, thank you! The only good reason for many to upgrade from an M1 Pro or better is to flood the market with refurbished/used MBPs for other people to buy. If you want to switch to Mac, the best time is now - but by getting a refurbished one. Even the Intel ones are a great option if you are on a budget, the market is flooded with them because so many people upgraded. Just ask yourself honestly what you need (how much power, storage, which size, battery life etc.) and get just that.

[@gedog77]

You are part of why I now just have a Mac.

[@talhashah]

6:24 is why I love this channel.

[@johnnygarlics3540]

I've got a late 2019 MBP with an i9 and 32gb of RAM and 1 TB storage which cost about $3800. I'm seriously considering buing the $3,999 M3 Max config that shows up on the Apple store with 48GB unified and 1TB. Worth it for me?

[@chadmullins7553]

I have an Intel Mac 2018 i7 and had no issues with FCP or PS when I started with it. However, over the past year and half, things have been changing and this computer is not keeping up. Point is, the new M3 is designed for what's coming, not what's already here. The M1 is designed for what's now, because the technology caught up to it. If someone is upgrading from an Intel Mac, than the M3 max would be there best bet. If you have an M1, than it would be okay to wait until there is an M4 or 5 chip.

[@lawrence5371]

I am so looking forward to his review. Thanks for doing this.

[@JPX8]

'old grumpy partner', lol - I had to like this video!

[@RC944jim]

Thank for being honest and not looking for a free Mac! 👍👍👍

[@Khajakkodian]

Let's go, Patric, you can do it. You won't regret it.

[@neglectedloves]

This is absolutely on point! Thank you for proving me right 🙏🏻

[@j340_official]

I have an M1 Max and yes M3 Max has much better multicore performance. And I am glad to see apple continue to increase performance. But the cost of the new machine is too high and the trade in values of the older machines are too low to make it worth an upgrade. And while the chip performance is better, many things on the new machine remain the same as on the old ones. For example, the chassis is the same, the speakers are the same, the screen is the same (and with the Vivid app, I can increase the SDR brightness of my M1 Max well above 500 nits), macOS is the same, thunderbolt 4 speeds are the same, wifi/bluetooth radios are the same, little to no fan noise is the same, storage speeds are roughly the same, lack of AAA games is the same, no native Windows on ARM (bootcamp) is the same. I am only going to upgrade when thunderbolt 5 arrives with double the PCIe bandwidth along the wire. Until then, I'm happy to see Apple keep the pedal to the metal, all aboard the 3 nanometer express. If Apple offered an upgrade program where I could keep my chassis, screen, speakers, and storage, and upgrade the logic board to the new M3 Max, I would look into doing that. Why pay for a new chassis, screen, speakers, fans, etc when the ones I have work perfectly fine??? But as we know, Apple offers no such thing.

[@mrjamesmay3548]

Ha the fact your business partner doesn’t look that old, does that mean I’m old 😂

[@TyroneLT]

Pragmatically you shouldn't have to update a laptop after 2 years. Especially the M1 Max. For that amount of money it should last 4-5 years. If on the other hand you're upgrading from a vanilla M1 device or even an Intel device, the M3 becomes a worthwhile upgrade......depending on what you're doing. And that's the key. What are you actually using it for.

[@rafadydkiemmacha7543]

For that kind of money it should last like 8 years minimum. MacBook Air should last 5 years.

[@milworks]

This a true, I have a M1 Max 64gb, it works fine I do hit bottle necks running some of my development workflows using vm’s but no deal breakers. I didn’t even look at the m2. The main reason I’m going to upgrade to M3 is that I can double my ram and ad a few more cores. That will make a huge difference to my workflows.

[@rafadydkiemmacha7543]

@@milworks you're happy that your extremely expensive computer from 2 years ago "works fine"? Wow, what Apple did to their customers.

[@milworks]

@@rafadydkiemmacha7543 I’m in a highly resource and compute intensive field so yes. ThereI have been years where I had expensive pc builds and they still were not fine. So this is not about Apple but the demands of my use case. I’ve spent way more in inflation adjusted dollars buying and building machines to handle my workload. The M series chips have been good. But every library I add, every ml model, every vm os upgrade demands more and more resources so yes working fine is more than good enough. Also I get compensated fine too so it works out.

[@irensaga561]

@@rafadydkiemmacha7543My MacBook Air is approaching three years old, and it is still absolutely flying :-)

[@KaoukabiJaouad]

i have to correct one claim at 5:40 about Apple and 3D rendering, no actually if you're in that industry PC is king hands down, the 4080 mobile have double the performance of the max out 40GPU M3 Max, 3D work is one of the niche areas where PC are still kings and of course gaming and all the apps that use OpenCL or CUDA, on other stuff, common day to day tasks, and 3D editing Apple is undisputed.

[@ayocam07]

I have M1 Pro 14 inch MBP I am very happy with my purchase! No need to get the M3 Models.

[@jordanbellotti109]

Patrick looks so disturbed about using the Mac. Hilarious!

[@matthazard]

Preach brother! My methodology is not upgrading until the computer gets in the way of doing work. If it's laggy making things or editing, that's a problem. Renders and encoding are what they are, for the most part, a few extra minutes aren't the end of the world. I have a base spec M1 Max 16", I was shocked how it replaced an iMac Pro with 128 GB of RAM.

[@Theofficialavonraw]

thanks for the advice. really feel confident now about my future MacBook purchases liked and subscribed.

[@AndyBelgiumVlog]

Happy to see that I'm not the only person who loves Apple after 30 years of Windows. Can not wait to see the video from your business partner, what Patrick thinks about it. Love the video also from when you went back to Windows for your wifes laptop. I had the same experience when I had to fix some computer issues from friends. They refuse Mac and gave me a hard time fixing their Windows computer. 😆

[@kironafly6605]

A very good pragmatic review. Thanks!

[@natelehota]

You're right about there being nothing wrong with using refurbished machine or older-ish computers. However, I don't think most modern machines have an issue playing back normal footage. Many wedding video and other video editors in general, use stuff like denoise or other effects on the clips. When you add those, it significantly slows playback down, almost to the point of stopping in some cases, and significantly exports down. Next time you do a comparison like this, can you please include difficult footage? I know you're not Linus, so if not, NBD, I'll still watch, but I think it would be a more fair comparison.

[@FStoppers]

The two tests I did were replicas of what I do every single day. I do plan on more complex tests when I get back next week

[@doolar]

Nice one, I got my first own Mac back in 96 maybe? I've used and worked with PC:s too all my life, but there's something about MacOS and Macs when it comes to user friendliness, pro or consumer. Personally I've always kept a Mac. And there's never ever - at least not under my soon to be 30 years as a Mac owner - been a better time than now. Mac's never been this good, especially after Apple Silicon.

[@SACC_]

Damn, can’t wait for that video

[@frazerweb]

When I was a graphic designer years ago, we learnt to work efficiently, due to the constraints in the technology at that time. Software was less bloated and processing power was limited in those days, and the costs was eye watering. It's fascinating how people now are pushing there m2 ultras to the limit, justifying the need a future m3 ultra upgrade. I wonder what are they're creating, or more to the point how they are working. I would imagine working with video, you'd need the largest hard drive ideally 8tb and plenty of ram, ideally 128gb. I can totally understand a pro buying the maxed out m3 max laptop, but not a youtubers, as HD video content is good enough for KZbin, and that can be done on an M1 with ease. If I had the money I'd buy a 16 m3 max with 8tb storage and 128gb ram but I'll settle with my 13mbp M1

[@langhamp8912]

I've only worked with data, such as healthcare or survey data, but such data can come in disturbingly gigantic amounts. 25 years ago, you basically did data manipulation from a thin workstation piped to a server; the data and runs stayed on the workstation, the major reason being than a single core processor jammed up during the entire run. The dual-core was a revelation because you could actually do other stuff while one core was jammed up, but that still meant you would kick off a run and then go make yourself a cup of coffee. Then about ten years ago, we started to have unit testing on everything, and a suite of unit tests could easily take 20-30 minutes so everything was moved to workstations which reduced times. Then quad cores, 16 cores, and ESPECIALLY SSD memory came out, and everything came down to minutes. You still had to use workstations, though, because no laptop could run these data manipulation programs for any length of time without overheating. However it didn't take long because laptop CPU's and memory were faster than the workstation of just a few years previously. And then the M1 came out. I actually went out and bought a MacBook M1 Air, the lowest spec model, with my own money just to see what the deal was. And it'll run a full suite of unit tests on 60 meg files in about 1/3 to 3 seconds, just ridiculously fast, and that would have taken 10-15 minutes on the older Intel quads of a decade past. It'll do all this stuff while being completely cool, noiseless, no stuttering, and still not need to be plugged into a charger. Right now, for my MBA base model, I've got a wireless mouse/keyboard and a wired 4K monitor setup, with its lid closed, and its user interface performance greatly exceeds the fastest and most expensive workstations I've ever used. And it does it while lasting 10 hours and being entirely silent. Sure, there's faster Intel/AMD machines but can they work so hard with so little effort?

[@jackdominiak445]

I'm in no way a pro user, however I've just upgraded to the standard M3 with 16gb of RAM, from a 13" M1 MBP, my main reasons were; bigger better screen, better mic's, better camera, all of that is much better and I'm definitely happy, however what impressed me the most, is how much snappier it is when browsing, the speedometer score on my old M1 was 436, it's now 599 😳 and you can actually tell the difference, will it change my life? No....has it changed my user experience for the better? Yes ....was it worth upgrading? Definitely 😊

[@StelmachsWorld]

4:14 It's because the M1 Pro has a single encoding/decoding engine as opposed to 2 on the M3 max.

[@hellozzh]

when I throw dehancer in my davinci resolve work on some simple fx3 422 10 bit h 264 files, it's struggling to play back , if I even add grain or more layers, mac simply stops working, I dont know, I still feel PC is more safe for video editing, instead of mac, especially with a lot of color grading and vfx stuffs. maybe put the new m3 test with dehancer, see if it's still ok, if dehancer works fine on m3, then Iwill definantly get one for my work, love mac size and battery, cant really running around with a PC.