M398 - Upgraded M390? Steel Testing!

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Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

Күн бұрын

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@minimag03
@minimag03 Жыл бұрын
Spyderco should send you their entire catalog each year. Your testing and opinions have sold more than a couple to me!
@jimholliman2822
@jimholliman2822 7 ай бұрын
It was very nice to see you give preference to your family over knife hobby. Thanks for testing M398.
@FoxMacLeod2501
@FoxMacLeod2501 Жыл бұрын
I am just wanted to state how much (a lot much) I appreciate your lack of sponsored host ad reads... I'm always impressed by the genuine, honest work you put into keeping it fair and consistent - and I routinely crack a smile upon hearing the newest video's choice of musical score, too. I am excited to see your upcoming addition to the collective knowledge (as well as to your considerable personal collection of data), by essentially establishing some oxidation testing benchmarks with modern carbon steels. But no pressure, Pete - we both know how expectations can sap the enjoyability from once-beloved activities. If it's next year - or never - I'm good with it. I enjoy what's here, and I try not to fall into the habit of focusing instead on what's just around the corner. I'm just happy with whatever you decide to share, whenever you're inspired to create. We love you, buddy - and congrats, by the way, on being noticed so favorably by Sal Glesser himself! ... Maybe put a word in with him about making more 15V knives - so we aren't stuck with the scalpers if we aren't lucky enough to score one during the minutes of availability before they're all snapped up?
@edsaunders1897
@edsaunders1897 Жыл бұрын
Forget the sisal rope. How many huusk knives can it cut through and still glide through a held sheet of paper?
@LiquidMemes
@LiquidMemes Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@PrinceAsmodeus
@PrinceAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
Japanese steel tho
@davidheath2427
@davidheath2427 Жыл бұрын
10 for 300dollers ,all 10
@gunner4373
@gunner4373 Жыл бұрын
I got through 7
@amitzdullnicker2k
@amitzdullnicker2k Жыл бұрын
Good one! 😂
@armedoptics3523
@armedoptics3523 Жыл бұрын
Spyderco needs tot make an 18/10 pot steel MULE...
@Low-effort-individual
@Low-effort-individual Жыл бұрын
Spydercos maxamet will finally have a worthy challenger
@jayr526
@jayr526 Жыл бұрын
Too late. Husk breast them to it.
@jwdory
@jwdory 22 күн бұрын
On the bright side, you could use the Husk knife for scale material or perhaps toilet paper if you run out.😮
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Жыл бұрын
Haha! All good Pete! I made those kinda goofy scales myself (so as not to kill your hand)! It turned out my first batch of mules I sent you had a bad wire edge (lack of sharpening knowledge at that time) and no hand-destruction happened. I should have put those scales on the MagnaCut Mule of recent, probably would have hurt your hand less than that janky paracord wrap. I just had no idea it was gonna cut 1500 times. Feel free to get through all your Mule testing first bro, I can wait a couple extra weeks for the knives to come back. Great video.
@twatmunro
@twatmunro Жыл бұрын
Very pleased that Spyderco have started working with you. Although their knives tend not to be my style aesthetically, they're by far my favourite company in the knife making game -- because of the attention they pay to the community.
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police Жыл бұрын
i used to like them but their constant price hikes turned me off, it's getting really crazy!🤑
@smashlee6181
@smashlee6181 Жыл бұрын
@@KZbin-Censorship-Police they are still a steal compared to companies like benchmade though
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 Жыл бұрын
@@KZbin-Censorship-Police *SURVEY SAYS BENCHMADE!* Hmmmm not sure what happened there.... (I don't entirely disagree but it's partly the way of the world at the moment and they're far from the worst offender).
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police Жыл бұрын
@@jameshealy4594 yeah, bm is still the king of overpricing but spyderco is getting really close. especially their seki made knives; some of the grivory / vg-10 models are in the ~200 range, meanwhile i can get a us-made hogue rsk1 in g10 and 20cv for $170. benchmade and spyderco are the apple and samsung of the knife world, you simply pay 30% more for the name. the only reasons why i prefer spydie over bm are 1: spyderco does a lot of crazy & cool steels and 2: their knives come without bad grinds and funky fit'n'finish (at least those from the us and taichung plants). speaking of overpriced: the s35vn models from cold steel are ridiculous too since the company was bought by gsm.
@twatmunro
@twatmunro Жыл бұрын
@@KZbin-Censorship-Police -- Yes, it's really the range of steels, their close ties to the community that I like them for. I agree that they're massively overpriced now -- especially outside the USA. If you think they're expensive, try buying one on the UK or Australia. I keep wanting to pick up a Delica in K390, but here in the UK they sell for about $200 -- for a plastic handled knife? GTFO!
@quickslashgib5800
@quickslashgib5800 5 ай бұрын
Spymyto just ordered. Half the price of the Slysz Bowie. Micarta on one side, titanium on the other. Peak stainless.
@franka9760
@franka9760 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back with an edge retention test! You da man, Pete!
@petric334
@petric334 Жыл бұрын
Still loving the innovative use of the green screen as a..green..colored screen. It's a meta commentary on the unsuccessful attempted conquest of technology over our osb roots. I appreciate your videos over the years, hope all is well down there.
@DuhYaThink
@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын
More bricky !! Thanks for doing some testing this steel,have been waiting for someone to do it.
@nandayane
@nandayane Жыл бұрын
It’s good to see a test of this one!
@samuelrichardsonmcgravyber4559
@samuelrichardsonmcgravyber4559 Жыл бұрын
I was very interested to see how M398 would perform. Thanks for the video Pete. Good stuff 👍
@Jeffrose_
@Jeffrose_ Жыл бұрын
I love your simple approach to knife testing. I cut rope and boxes most often. You give me the best idea of what to expect from my knives. 😊
@ryewaldman2214
@ryewaldman2214 Жыл бұрын
steel testing time is the best time! Also, friend, zip your fly!
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 Жыл бұрын
This video was the precursor to the announcement of his only fans page lmao
@edsaunders1897
@edsaunders1897 Жыл бұрын
Dicks out for the boys!
@geraldkoth654
@geraldkoth654 Жыл бұрын
Steeltoes did some testing and got around 550 with a blunt edge. Then he did this. Today's testing with a 10-11 dps super vitrified triple b stone at 1k achieved 720 cuts in my testing today. Surprised not many gave this steel a fair shake when it dropped 4 months ago. The Mules are 64 HRC
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure the mules are 64? Seems too high, especially for the result's here. Who is steeltoes, which platform is he on? I dont see any channel's on KZbin with that name.
@TheBootyWrangler
@TheBootyWrangler Жыл бұрын
@@tacticalcenter8658 oh you’re looking for his KZbin handle, IronCock
@davidshaffer8569
@davidshaffer8569 Жыл бұрын
I always find your videos helpful and entertaining. Thanks
@MrLlama999
@MrLlama999 11 ай бұрын
5:52 Nice
@cameron3525
@cameron3525 Жыл бұрын
Eight years of carpal tunnel, got a love it
@vibeslide
@vibeslide Жыл бұрын
I guess by this time Pete has developed muscles from all the cutting no other human has.
@bokusimondesu
@bokusimondesu Жыл бұрын
Still steel testing. Love it! 😊
@daniel.rosina
@daniel.rosina Жыл бұрын
Great job, Pete! And thank you for that!
@49giants3
@49giants3 Жыл бұрын
Good ol times when I see a sisal rope test on your channel Pete ! Thanks for another great video
@W49Boowie
@W49Boowie Жыл бұрын
Love the green background, it works really goes really with you white tshirt Pete, 👌🏻👍🏻! Great test and a very relaxing video review to watch. I recently purchased a Magnacut bladed knife. On the factory edge it developed one micro chip after whittling Oak for approximately 25 minutes, no rolls, just the tiniest chip, virtually invisible. M390 on the other hand chipped out a little worse, a larger chip, no rolls, and this was after approximately whittling the same Oak chair leg! lol! Well I felt that I might not removing the right angles from the chair leg might be in contravention of the Geneva convention even though I agree with your " Tactical " advice about getting a few good hits in the old angles! Great vid, well done, and keep that unevenly over developed right arm of yours in optimum condition with regular maintenance mate! Best wishes to you and all of your family and loved ones Pete, 👌🏻👍🏻!
@profesorEDC
@profesorEDC Жыл бұрын
Never miss one of your videos they are just great Pete, thanks for the effort. And hey congrats on that mule sent from Sal himself, that is just priceless and awesome, it speaks a lot about the quality of person Sal is, next you'll be designing your own knife, which I'd definitely buy.😁👌👍
@domeromer
@domeromer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Pete.
@blades8284
@blades8284 Жыл бұрын
I love Spyderco knives. Thanks!
@Dblnickle
@Dblnickle Жыл бұрын
Great video like your reviews and blade steel testing
@49giants3
@49giants3 Жыл бұрын
What a great father!! We luv ya Pete !!
@JohnC29
@JohnC29 Жыл бұрын
I hope you aren't demonotized for using a red marker on the blade.
@CHUCKIT
@CHUCKIT Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I got my m398 mule. It is my food prep knife.
@Jaqenhgar222
@Jaqenhgar222 Жыл бұрын
Dude, have you ever seen a mule, they aren't ugly, they can be really cute.
@ibanez7412
@ibanez7412 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete!
@BrandonMeyer1641
@BrandonMeyer1641 Жыл бұрын
I live down the road from spyderco and still haven’t taken the time to have a visit
@tomdowser
@tomdowser Жыл бұрын
Pete...thanks mate. Tsprof tip zero to the clamp holding arm then place on top of rod holding stone with stone at halfway point on edge. Center clamp attachment would be very helpful. 15 bucks on gritomatic. Dont buy the tsprof one for a 100 bucks or whatever they reaming us for currently. Cheers mate.
@Hectorszenshopedc
@Hectorszenshopedc Жыл бұрын
GOLD . PURE GOLD. GOLDEN MAN...❤😂 M 398 HAS CROSS MY SCOPE. I was just testing m390 in the Fara MKM.. Sleeper
@lord.needham
@lord.needham Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete.
@Greg_M308
@Greg_M308 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks!😊
@aceman1126
@aceman1126 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Been digging mine since I got it. Still very sharp after random uses over 4 months or so. Idk how strong it is and I would be scared to hard use it but as far as reasonable uses it's great and like I said VERY sharp still. Impressed, especially for the decent price here stateside. Only complaint is the spyderco leather sheath... kinda sucks and fits oddly. I'm gonna either make my own or commission a kydex one soon Edit: forgot to ❤❤❤❤ for chocobo music
@dmarcellus
@dmarcellus 2 ай бұрын
I love Mule Team knives. I have several.
@standardcitizen5948
@standardcitizen5948 Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping you test one of those 15v Sydercos one day.
@Elmax17.5dps
@Elmax17.5dps Ай бұрын
Well done friend
@c62west
@c62west Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@stevenarmstrong6622
@stevenarmstrong6622 Ай бұрын
I didnt expected the ff8 battle music :D
@michaelm5203
@michaelm5203 Жыл бұрын
showing the edge reflection over the "how to care for your husk" lol
@onesuchasi
@onesuchasi Жыл бұрын
I considered purchasing the M398 mule from the Spyderco factory but seeing the toughness of M398 is lower than M390 I decided hold off on buying it. However, I am looking forward to the “AEB-L” mule from Spyderco.
@onesuchasi
@onesuchasi Жыл бұрын
Excellent review of the M398 steel by the way - I trust your opinions and recommendations more than anyone else on KZbin. 🫡
@TinyIslandMaine
@TinyIslandMaine Жыл бұрын
I agree on the low toughness. I ended up w/ the spy27 and love it. May grab an aeb-l.
@nandayane
@nandayane Жыл бұрын
I got the M398 mule, so far no complaints. There are so many amazing ones coming in, t15, AEB-L, 15V. Crimeny
@michaelmyyears4743
@michaelmyyears4743 Жыл бұрын
M390 was the super steel for 2015 there is a new one where they added titanium
@magiccarpet3.5
@magiccarpet3.5 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video, I think m398 is another great steel. However living on a boat means its vanax or magnacut for me. Im Still offering sanctuary for one of your poor long suffering magnacut mules pete. Cheers
@Rhubarb2
@Rhubarb2 Жыл бұрын
Bloody great!
@kush662
@kush662 Жыл бұрын
Can you please do a steel testing with damasteel?! And of course would love to see corrosion testing with damasteel too! Great vids
@acid6urns
@acid6urns 8 ай бұрын
damasteel would perform exactly the same as cpm154 or rwl34. because it is those steels just with pmc27 (basically power metal 12c27) so maybe just tougher rwl34.
@MF_UNDERTOW
@MF_UNDERTOW Жыл бұрын
Next we need of video of breeding chocobos
@nandayane
@nandayane Жыл бұрын
Did Pete just say Sal hooked him up? As in Spyderco’s Sal?
@benjofpv
@benjofpv Жыл бұрын
AEB-L coming out in 2 weeks, rest up that wrist!
@ninemimesleft
@ninemimesleft Жыл бұрын
An aeb-l mule? I'd love to see the whole enuff series done in aeb-l. Isn't gonna win any edge retention prizes but it's tough and sharpens like a dream.
@benjofpv
@benjofpv Жыл бұрын
@@ninemimesleft Yea it comes out the 18th in mule form
@larrydunn4626
@larrydunn4626 Жыл бұрын
shall we consider that an analog to 14c28n?
@blbmonster64pfc
@blbmonster64pfc Жыл бұрын
miss the "To The Max" videos. Would love to see a 15dps run!
@stevenlachance8576
@stevenlachance8576 Жыл бұрын
Be nice to be able to fiddle a little w the steel recipe and hardness. The m398 w a percent niobium-for fine grain and a little nitrogen for same -might improve toughness. We need a ready bake oven for steel dated reference
@JohnDoe-bw3tz
@JohnDoe-bw3tz Жыл бұрын
Zipper, Pete.... zipper!
@mikemckenzy
@mikemckenzy Жыл бұрын
Two questions: what do u do with all the rope cuttings? Have you ever cut yourself during rope cutting tests? Repetitive motion injury aside, you always look very focused, therefore very safe. Thanks for the excellent infotainment!
@wtcamer
@wtcamer Жыл бұрын
Love the FF battle music xD. Wish they would do another retro FF. Oh and Chocobo music xD. 2 good. Also seeing how tough that rope is b4 you go to super speed. That looks exhausting...
@TheBeater2382
@TheBeater2382 Жыл бұрын
Pretty fucking cool Spyderco sending you knives👍🏻👍🏻
@amounifnd
@amounifnd Жыл бұрын
Bunnings or wherever you buy your rope from must love you lol.
@DuhYaThink
@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын
The Rex76 mule has tested 69.3 hrc. 😮 which is crazy
@_BLANK_BLANK
@_BLANK_BLANK Жыл бұрын
So. The hardness of the carbides isn't going to be what would cause toughness issues at the edge. The volume of the carbides (the ammount a given steel has), and the size of the carbides (like d2, vs cpm d2), are going to be the real factors that play into the toughness. Which is why the non stainless (or semistainless, as i like to call them) tool steels are the overall best performers with a toughness/wear resistance balance. And its the reason magnacut is such a big deal, it was able to get an only mc type carbide microstructure, while also being a stainless steel. Therefore having a lower carbide volume, and raising the toughness. But still having good wear resistance because the carbides are harder.
@Jspg119
@Jspg119 Жыл бұрын
Kind of surprised you've never done m2 steel
@pirminzemp2731
@pirminzemp2731 Жыл бұрын
Interesting M398 Greetings from Switzerland Pirmin 🇨🇭
@conductorcammon
@conductorcammon Жыл бұрын
Go team!
@bernie3075
@bernie3075 Жыл бұрын
"The only people that are going are either huge collectors or giant nerds" and scalpers
@piperkennard1039
@piperkennard1039 Жыл бұрын
Spyderco rocks brother 💯🤜🤛👍
@mikemckenzy
@mikemckenzy Жыл бұрын
“Fluff off and jagoff“ 😂
@t.j.speakman7723
@t.j.speakman7723 Жыл бұрын
Nice, vey nice.
@_brianm
@_brianm Жыл бұрын
FF battle music so good for this
@Jerome.Du.Quartier
@Jerome.Du.Quartier 7 ай бұрын
When they say it is nog tough, does this matter in a folder or is is tough enough for day to day use?
@couteaux_courtois
@couteaux_courtois Жыл бұрын
Good morning. do you know the brand casstrom? their sleipner combined with a true scandi grind are great for the outdoors.
@silvia2408
@silvia2408 Жыл бұрын
Nice, been waiting for this 🕸️🤜🔪🤛🕸️
@EastCoastMan603
@EastCoastMan603 Жыл бұрын
Australia man wins AGAIN…jeez. Anyway you could do an “it’s dangerous to go alone. Take this!” With a Japan inspired huusk knife ?
@groundless1238
@groundless1238 Жыл бұрын
You look super good! You need to post your excercise routine, very curious
@CedricAda
@CedricAda Жыл бұрын
might roll it into my next edc overview type vid
@anthonycampos7417
@anthonycampos7417 Жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, what ever happened to the other half of your testing cutting board? I know how and when it broke but I was thinking maybe you can get the other half to someone so they can continue on your style of knife edge testing on the same brand of rope for similar-ish results. Just an idea
@mattheww9656
@mattheww9656 Жыл бұрын
“Whacked off almost immediately”. I hear ya
@TheBootyWrangler
@TheBootyWrangler Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a minecraft character is digging in the background
@ncsEsper
@ncsEsper Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete. Spyderco lost my interest several years ago. Their innovation is about as exciting as a trip to the gas station. Your vids remain excellent.
@acid6urns
@acid6urns 8 ай бұрын
i beg to differ. they still release new models and always release new variations of their popular models, and are one of the only makers who have a line of knives entirely dedicated to being rust proof for usage in salt water.
@ninemimesleft
@ninemimesleft Жыл бұрын
I really wish they'd redesign the mule and get rid of the hump on the back. The ergonomics would be so much better (IMHO)
@snhw
@snhw Жыл бұрын
Witch sharpening tool is this
@DullPoints
@DullPoints Жыл бұрын
Babe, wake up! New knife steel just dropped!!
@gullwhisperer7042
@gullwhisperer7042 Жыл бұрын
@CedricAda When are you (if ever) going to test some AR-RPM9? Curious how it compares to standard 9cr.
@doransponsel4813
@doransponsel4813 2 ай бұрын
It's exactly the same. Larrin put out a good video recently at knife steel nerds on ar rpm 9 or asf7 as he calls it lol
@etherealicer
@etherealicer Жыл бұрын
But how does it compare to a Huusk knife?
@williamdabill
@williamdabill Жыл бұрын
Do i review on a fallkniven Modern Bowie
@javiersoria9065
@javiersoria9065 Жыл бұрын
hi, which would be your choice, Magnacut, M390 or M398? Can you put them in order #1 the best and #3 the one you prefer the least? Thank you
@Fuckoffgoogle25
@Fuckoffgoogle25 Жыл бұрын
why did magnacut get twice as many cuts as cruwear pm2?
@myeyesarewaiting
@myeyesarewaiting Жыл бұрын
Very telling that magnacut with less chromium is more rust resistant, and does a similar amount of cuts with less carbon and vanadium.
@PrinceAsmodeus
@PrinceAsmodeus Жыл бұрын
They keep adding numbers to the steel and the price tag. And we keep buying them. We all know most super steel knives are used merely to cut open the packaging of your new super steel knife. It's madness.
@samuraiS30v
@samuraiS30v Жыл бұрын
Have u tested D3V?
@longshanks5531
@longshanks5531 9 ай бұрын
M398 reminds me of S90v
@mcm4point2o
@mcm4point2o Жыл бұрын
i wonder how much it takes to own exclusive bladesteel/sprint run rights for a certain Spyderco steel. If I were a smaller knife store owner trying to grow, this would be a no-brainer investment for sho. all of your sprint runs literally sell out within a half hour, and your brand becomes a collector's watch-list, Spyder-affiliated name in the market. hmm
@D00MTR33
@D00MTR33 Жыл бұрын
I've been impressed with m398. Got a custom in it at 64hrc and ground to 0.007 and it's performed better than any stainless steel I've tried yet in holding an edge without needing a touch up. It even beat out Elmax at 64-65 by Cultrotech though some of that might be to blade shape. I still haven't used s125v yet (sold the only knife I had in it before much use but it was the hardest knife ever to sharpen) or s90v (my favorite high carbide stainless) with a custom heat treatment to see where it ranks. Going of tests it's about the same as s125v at the same hardness but slightly different feeling. Will be interested to see how it does with Gabe. M398 and magnacut are both pretty new to me but I've been enjoying both and they're really moving up my favorite steels lists.
@sswwooppee
@sswwooppee Жыл бұрын
But... how does it compare to a Huusk knife?
@barrybueler3356
@barrybueler3356 Жыл бұрын
The local home improvement store must see u coming for that rope when u pull in the parking lot 😂. Hook me up with one of those mules my friend trade ya though the shipping probably won’t be cheap because I’m in Merica🇺🇸
@davidheath2427
@davidheath2427 Жыл бұрын
Pete is trying to get a new demographic. Mule and zipper . Naughty man
@edsaunders1897
@edsaunders1897 Жыл бұрын
Just teasing the audience about his upcoming only fans announcement
@jayr526
@jayr526 Жыл бұрын
If I could cut as fast as you do I am sure that I would lose count early into the cutting.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 Жыл бұрын
Given how much higher the content of all the "nice" additives is in M398 than in Magnacut (Cr, Mo, V, W), M398 is probably a lot more expensive than Magnacut.
@PerryNeium
@PerryNeium Жыл бұрын
I always want to go back and plan final fantasy after watching these. Love the channnel and all the great content!! Fuck Husk Japan
@aaronb.4830
@aaronb.4830 Жыл бұрын
Man now I want to play FF7.
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