M4 Mac Mini Teardown Reveals BIG Surprises!

[@snazzy]

Sorry about the editing error at 6:45. We tried to get this up ASAP and had a bit of a goof in our QC. If you’re scared, close your eyes and it will be over soon.

[@qmng]

Yeah just think that your left eye is blessed :)

[@quintonostler4154]

Oh I thought it was the youtube app again

[@PandaMoniumHUN]

Is that a threat?

[@brandon_nope]

I thought it was a stylistic choice

[@Progan666]

I thought it was cool for a few seconds, kind of like an attention grabbing gimmick. Maybe you could experiment with this, but it shouldn't last longer than a few seconds.

[@EyesOfByes]

Fun fact: dosdude1 already swapped the nandchips to 1TB (2x512GB) on the Mac Mini. He published his video a few hours ago :)

[@robertp457]

I'd like to know how much those nandchips are.

[@TheZazatv]

@@robertp457 he said that for 2 512gb nans he payed around 160$

[@affieuk]

@@robertp457 He paid $90 for 2 x 512 and $160 for 2 x 1TB, so it's cheaper to get an NVMe and an external drive.

[@EthanCain]

@@robertp457 like, $99 or $75 on Aliexpress. Plus the tools and skills needed. Still cheaper than direct from apple.

[@4GuitarTrance]

@@robertp457 The 2 dosdude1 used were around $90.00 USD.

[@BettMagnett]

I usually have pretty much no interest in Apple products these days. But that $499 price tag for 16 gigs and M4 is still so mighty tempting for me.

[@guessundheit6494]

Don't. You will have to buy all new software, all of it overpriced, and NOTHING from previous macincrap generations will work. Windoze sucks, but at least you can still run old software from 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. Macincrap? You can't even run stuff made five years ago. It's constant forced purchasing and money sucking.

[@Madwonk]

I picked up a (used) 2018 Mac mini about a year ago. I primarily run Linux and rebooting into windows is a pain so it's a nice Unix-y box to sit on my desk that can run proprietary apps when necessary. Honestly, when it eventually dies I'll probably upgrade to a used M4, they seem to have made good decisions with how they designed it!

[@snazzy]

You literally cannot build a faster PC of any size for $600. And that’s wild to say as a Mac user.

[@guessundheit6494]

@@snazzy You missed the point. Buy macincrap, and you're locked into an ecosystem with a single vendor and forced purchase of new hardware in a few years. Buy PC, and you can use windoze, Linux, and other OSes. And the only that forces "upgrades" can still run 10 or 20 year old software. Use Linux, and the PC will STILL have support in 15+ years.

[@a_macaulay]

@@guessundheit6494 You can run linux natively on the arm macs now.

[@fluffycritter]

Apple probably didn't think they needed to put a moisture sensor on the wireless board, and yet...

[@snazzy]

Haha!

[@ahgflyguy]

Probably wouldn’t have been cost-effective to put a large capacitor there on every unit, just for Quin.

[@jiroyamada7983]

Perhaps in case of office fire sprinklers causing water damage to computers?

[@mattkim96]

This involved more tasting of hardware components and suction cups than I expected from a Mac mini review. Not a lot, but more than anticipated.

[@snazzy]

I guess you could say I’m a bit of a Mac mini connoisseur.

[@mattkim96]

@ very true. I love mkbhd and dave2d too, they know a lot about the Mac mini as well. But they don’t know what it *tastes* like. So Snazzy Labs is just a bit more comprehensive, props

[@friedcatfood]

@@snazzy sommaclier

[@soberhippie]

Maybe, just hear me out, the side that everyone thinks is the bottom, is, in fact, the top. And the power button is very conveniently located

[@snazzy]

There you go! Haha

[@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher]

Apple accidentally put the apple logo on the wrong side 😂

[@superhavi]

Some of the most popular accessories sold for the old Mac mini are a vesa mount and a holder to mount it under the table. A power button on the bottom makes total sense for those applications.

[@hirez1972]

if you do that and squint, you have yourself a Mac Mini Trashcan!

[@peter65zzfdfh]

@@superhavion the bottom. At the back? That’s a reach.

[@bob_kazamakis]

25:26 those shields are there because the board was in close proximity to the power supply, which is very noisy and carries mains power, which is a lot stronger of a noise with its higher amplitude

[@snazzy]

Yep! They’re on the opposite side of the logic board too.

[@radellaf]

I just have to wonder why it isn't more like the iMac, with the power supply as a separate brick with DC to the computer.

[@goinginzane]

@@radellafbecause it’s much less elegant of a solution, and they have a little bit of Z-depth to play with unlike the ultra-slim iMac lol its proprietary magnetic power connector is so sweet though

[@Paul_Crosbie]

I have been a tech guy for over 30yrs working with both MAC & Windows and Mr Snazzy I am astonished at your depth of knowledge! It is just so evident in a review like this one where you can go down to the finest details of power supply component suppliers and then explain the basics for those less well informed. Well done I say

[@mathevideos9909]

1:24 Technology Connections intensifies. No, these holes are for manufacturing purposes only.

[@snazzy]

I must continue to believe in folklore, sorry Alec.

[@D_O_S_FILM]

I must buy two of them to make sure

[@contournut5726]

Pretty sure they’re actually for flavor intensification.

[@DeezNuds]

And we knew that with the magic of buying two of them!

[@GrafRucola]

Lel die diagram at that point in the video is of an light bulb e27 or so xD

[@andrecarvalho2833]

I just image the pride that the architecs of these boards must feel when almost everyone praises the beauty of these boards! To them: congratulations on this stellar work!

[@Lord_Reset]

This is such good proof that you can make compact performant hardware while being repairable and semi-modular. This lebel of repairability should be a baseline for orhers to meet or improve on. Thanks for the video as well!

[@thorstenlamm5794]

Probably one of the most entertaining, knowledgeable and fun teardowns I've seen so far. The moment you just threw all the packaging off the table... comedy gold!

[@trimonmusic]

Agreed, please do more of these Quinn!

[@fireyDoughnut6]

Say what you will about Apple, this is an engineering masterpiece. A literal marvel.

[@askeladden450]

The m4 chip and packaging is a masterpiece, but the 16gb unupgradeable ram and 256 gb storage should be illegal. Don't know why people keep ignoring those aspects.

[@PhilJohn1980]

@@askeladden450 eh, is it really? I've got an M2 MBP with 16GB of memory ... on a Windows laptop that would be cutting it fine, but on a Mac I've never run into issues - and that's including running things like IDE's - the memory being so damn fast helps, as does it having fast SSD storage for when stuff DOES need to be paged.

[@iaadsi]

@@PhilJohn1980 Exactly. We use Minis as music workstations (with Roli gear) and the lowest spec is perfectly adequate. Buy once and then it works 10+ years in the studio.

[@alanmay7929]

No it's not! And TSMC is the one that should be congratulated and literally no one even talk about it

[@alanmay7929]

​@@askeladden450there isn't any masterpiece here lol!!

[@kingsamvisuals]

At $500-$600 this thing is just insane. All ee need is a viable SSD swap and we're golden.

[@mpmpm]

In EU always more expensive. The cheapest model is $752

[@ahrrr7690]

@@mpmpmif that true in Poland we finally “winning” after all those years. 2999 PLN for base model

[@timduncan6750]

Now waiting for the reassembly video...

[@drfleka]

He and Jerry just make e-waste. What reassembly?

[@snazzy]

@@drflekaI reassembled it perfectly and it works great, you dingus. Why would I take it apart so meticulously only to not reassemble it?

[@banyar4845]

@@snazzy I'd really enjoy a reassemble video as well. Cheers!

[@_atys]

One Quinn to another: you make great content. I really appreciate how you know what you’re talking about in this teardown. You’re more knowledgeable about the fabrication process than journalists who do nothing but cover Apple devices.

[@snazzy]

Hey, thanks Quinn!

[@HorizonOfHope]

Quinception.

[@rohanlg790]

Honestly, I have never seen any other company design the internal components as beautifully and as meticulously thought out as Apple.

[@bhilgefort]

I used to be a hater, you called me out a few years ago. After a long time I’ve realized my opinions coincided with yours and I can finally apologize! Thanks!

[@snazzy]

Well I’m not always right, for the record haha what did I call you out on? In any case, glad to have you around! Thanks for being snazzy.

[@theJesai]

i think that's a bot haha. it's a super generic reply.

[@xrafter]

​@theJesai No bot I know have that old of an account. Unless his account got hacked.

[@snazzy]

@@theJesainah, they’ve left 5 relevant comments and have been a public subscriber for 8 years so they’re legit I think haha

[@theJesai]

@@snazzy ah lol!

[@ChristianArnold5107]

Interesting that the PSU has transformers that pass through the board too. Apple's engineering has always amazed me, even if I'm not the type of person that buys their products

[@Chris-cf2kp]

There's something about this that feels like it resurrects the analog, straightforward, user-friendly, and hands-on DIY approach that was in computing when 'mac' was just 'macintosh'

[@Dr904]

People complain about the power button placement. But honestly, I much rather have the button in a slightly inconvenient place, rather than at a place where I easily can press it by accident.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

It’s supposed to discourage people from turning power on/off Just like Apple discourages people from data hoarding by artificially making ssd storage upgrades expensive. Why? It’s so you use icloud storage more.

[@radellaf]

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu You can turn it on/off from the keyboard. Only need the button for a bad crash and maybe initial turn-on before the keyboard is paired. That said, the only time I turn my mac off is if it crashes badly enough to need a hard power-off, which is extremely rare. It became common with a 7 year old intel imac, unfortunately, not sure if it was HW or SW.

[@timbeaton5045]

Just got my Mac mini Pro yesterday.... been setting it up.Looking forward to making music with it!

[@ItsJustFelix]

I love how he let his intrusive thoughts win and put the coin battery board in his mouth

[@megatryn]

14:19 When you put tiny screws at the end of the table and ignore that you got screw storage and sorting in the removable lid of the screwdriver kit right next to you.

[@snazzy]

It works great, yes, but I like to keep the screws by the components in clusters. Makes it easier!

[@jimi-w]

@@snazzy When I did repairs in my Apple Store days (2010-2011) we used to use what were basically fishing tackle boxes. I’d chuck an Excel^H^H^H^H^H Numbers spreadsheet up on the display in front of me with the right amount of boxes so I could label what each screw type was as I’d go.

[@SkaterStimm]

I worked in a tech shop for a long time and people would always get mad at me for not using a screw tray, and laying them out on my mat. My argument is that it is so easy to flip a screw tray, and have all the screws fly through the room. I never lost a screw (only if I dropped it) and I have indeed seen my coworkers flip their screw trays. I will die on my high horse about that.

[@jimi-w]

@@SkaterStimm I liked doing that too! But sometimes there were just too many screws of different types, and if I wasn’t using a tray I liked to have them lined up like they were in an invisible chassis

[@SkaterStimm]

@@jimi-w I have learned about magnet mats that allow you to place screws in the pattern that you took them off in. I think these are ideal.

[@seanmelvin5115]

Wow thank you for bringing more than just an open it up and show parts. It is truly appreciated that you actually know the components and explain them good on you.

[@tommihommi1]

there's a lot of EMC shielding measures that make assembly much more complex. Not just the copper tape for the cages on the board, also the way all the ports are mounted clearly is for shielding. I wonder if they target more strict standards than the normal consumer electronics standards.

[@snazzy]

Almost certainly.

[@game-tea]

I don't think they target more strict standards, they're just scrutinized very thoroughly by the involved regulatory bodies.

[@BullseyeBob77]

Did it survive reassembly?

[@Pancho_was_here]

5:45 whats that battery for?

[@davidwebca]

I think it’s a battery for the PRAM

[@12thpls]

“It provides power to the CMOS chip, which stores important system information such as the date, time, and hardware settings in the CMOS memory”

[@sohiearth]

What happened at 6:47?

[@snazzy]

Sorry, little error on our end. We tried to get this up ASAP and must have missed this on the watch-through.

[@LEGnewTube]

@@snazzyhaha I thought KZbin had glitched for a moment. It had happened to me.

[@chepulis]

@@snazzy To redeem yourself make a visual joke about it in the next video.

[@sohiearth]

I appreciate the swiftness!

[@adorp]

crazy how Dosdude had already upgraded the storage and uploaded the video by the time this video got released

[@DctrGizmo]

This has to be the most in depth tear down video I've ever seen! Quinn even took apart the LED indicator light 😂

[@antonybasta1591]

00:00 Introduction 00:00:57 Unfamiliar Power Cable Mystery 00:01:41 Tearing Into the Mac Mini 00:02:37 Disassembling with Caution 00:03:37 Disassembling the Mac Mini 00:04:27 Machine Airflow and Battery Design 00:05:03 Unveiling Gadget Secrets 00:05:59 Delicate Connections Revealed 00:06:53 Dismantling the Network Board 00:07:53 Tastes and Technologies 00:08:30 Exploring the Airflow Design 00:09:16 Optimizing Airflow Dynamics 00:10:02 Apple's Repairability Shift 00:11:00 Proprietary SSD Shenanigans 00:12:13 Exploring Technological Marvels 00:12:51 Reimagining Sound Engineering 00:13:51 Dissecting Technology Challenges 00:14:56 Disassembling with Care 00:16:06 Navigating Tight Spaces 00:17:22 Dissecting the Power Supply 00:18:12 Exploring Circuit Depths 00:19:15 Unveiling Green Technology 00:20:32 Sustainable Innovation Unveiled 00:21:16 Dismantling the Logic Board 00:22:21 Precision in Assembly 00:23:18 Disassembling the Machine 00:24:02 Uncovering Hidden Details 00:24:56 Unveiling Hidden Functions 00:25:33 Disassembling the Shield 00:26:11 Universal HDMI Upgrade 00:26:54 Exploring the Circuitry 00:27:37 Exploring the Mac Mini

[@nallemanstankarochfunderin5962]

Say What You Want about Apple, but they’re definitely an engineering firm at it’s finest. Even if sometimes their engineering is used to counteracting repairability, they’re masters of their craft. What a beautifully designed and put together machine. And what an incredible video you put together to present it all. Thank you Snazzy master, this was truly enjoyable.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

7:57 is be the best things I've seen in a video in a while! I appreciate the bit of levity!

[@fredfunn5413]

Your video from two years ago where you shrank the previous gen Mac Mini into a Mac Nano is my favorite tech video on the entire KZbin. Now with this M4 Mac Mini, we have Apple's official Mac Nano. The new Mac Mini is fan-cooled, and the cooling system makes the machine taller than its predecessor. Would you think it a good idea to shorten the M4 Mac Mini by swapping the fan system out with a passive cooling system such as a thick slab of copper? Would passive cooling be adequate for the M4 chip? It would be super cool if you could make the already super small Mac Mini even Mini-er, again! Please, please, just consider this idea. Thanks a lot.

[@DrVimto]

i wonder if someone will try to make a smaller case system with it, & even more cooler running.

[@markdaga1711]

I use a sheet of printer paper (even printing out a "schematic" when I can) and I pierce the screws into the paper roughly in the shape of where they go in the system (or again, if I have a schematic, exactly where they go). I haven't lost a screw in 15 years.

[@OkammakO]

Leftover cardboard box bits from evil giant online retailers are also great for this. The double layer of paper helps punch them through easier.

[@mattadata2]

What are the 3 wires going from power supply to logic board? 12.6V DC Pos and Neg, but what is 3rd wire? Planning on making my M4 mac mini DC powered and skipping the built in power supply.

[@Rock_turtle]

There’s just something so beautiful about fitting all those components and features into a small package.

[@messicomps344]

what she said

[@alanmay7929]

No! We're not in 2009 anymore lol!!! When Intel was making those tiny NUK years ago you never said anything.

[@Oxygen.O2]

@@alanmay7929are you talking about those underpowered PC twice the size of this Mac Mini, and with the huge external power supply, you know those noisy machines without any TB port, those ones? Lol

[@bzzerc]

I have a BeeLink Ser9 and have on order the new base model m4 mac mini and both are the same exact size and equivalent in power for both widows and mac users on one desk and i love it.

[@anothernumber9753]

0:50 found him. the nazzy labs guy is the real life ned flanders.

[@petrzurek5713]

Great video. Can you actually use iPad as a screen for Mac Mini (macOS), and Magic Keyboard (the iPad one) as a keyboard for Mac Mini (macOS)?

[@theJesai]

your videos are an instant click. the teardown was super interesting :)

[@snazzy]

Glad you liked it!

[@TheWerewolfJesus]

The punch holes in outlet prongs are mostly for alignment during manufacturing. When you're making plugs, you don't want one prong to stick out further than the other, so sliding them both over a rod keeps them level.

[@ashiq_r]

4:13, I have a bunch in mind, 1. magnetic bottom plate for magnetic bottom dock (using a hidden clipper inside that to bring power button to side of the dock), possibly stackable docks, tb4/5 is more than capable 2. add copper for better thermals, 3. m4 chip thermal paste has potential to be improved (possibly liquid metal). ... and so on.

[@YoongCheongSin]

Do you put the tear down back together and use as normal or is it scrapped?

[@unruler]

Removable SSD is great but in Apple world removable doesn't mean replaceable.

[@nelzo1703]

Someone will make something eventually. Like those third party upgrade kits for the old PPC Macs.

[@unruler]

@nelzo1703 Nope, don't you think Apple thought about it and will allow third party cut into their business of memory upselling? There is a pairing chip on that removable module. All you can do is desolder nand chips and solder another ones with more capacity. Apple could stop that too if they wanted, but they know that very few people will do that (you need to be a repair specialist to do that).

[@nelzo1703]

​@@unruler It seems these are similar to the Mac Studio and it's already been shown that aftermarket nands soldered to custom boards works. As far as I know there aren't any custom boards with pre-soldered nands on the market yet, but with the Mini being a much larger market than the Studio maybe the demand will support it.

[@dalousk]

Please can you be the first on KZbin to compare the first ever 2005 Mac mini and that one. I can’t think of nobody else to do that! Love your channel and content, keep up the good work!

[@wasir3703]

Would you also please do a teardown of m4 pro macbooks. Want to see how that thing looks from the inside Edit: As an electrical engineer, its always a pleasure to see you go in depth in your teardown videos and dive into topics of bus bars, capacitor manufacturers, voltage regulators and high speed design considerations. You really are the Vsauce of Tech Videos. Hopefully, more people notice your genuine enthusiasm and support you.

[@fujinshu]

The M4 MacBook Pros are literally the same from the inside, it seems, as previous generations.

[@Hruk78]

An absolute marvel of engineering! Hats off to Apple!

[@mitchell8765]

One of the few channels I have on notifications for every new video. Great as always, look forward to seeing the take on its performance.

[@snazzy]

Wow, thank you!

[@Ziad.G]

This studio is beautiful

[@ChimpyChamp]

Looks like the EU pressure for repairable devices is starting to be seen in consumer devices.

[@helloukw]

Too bad its not to the extent of user replaceable ssd, or even better ssd and ram. Side node, I know the ssd can be replaced, but its only by them, for repairing, or if you want to go dosdude route.

[@PositiveLiveliness]

10:06 wow what acting, you already knew it had the removable. 😂🤣

[@Cheez1000]

id ditch my desktop today if Apple let us put standard M.2 drives in.

[@whatcouldgowrong7914]

Use an NVMe thunderbolt enclosure… solved

[@Renuclous]

@@whatcouldgowrong7914this. I’d agree on anything remotely mobile, but since the Mac mini is made to be stationary on a desktop and Thunderbolt enclosures and NASs exist I don’t care personally. If you don’t have either it is hefty additional cost tho I admit.

[@robertp457]

@@whatcouldgowrong7914 And how much does that cost and how much is the drive to put in it? Why doesn't Apple just let people replace the drive with their own or I don't know not charge 2TB money for an additional 256gb drive? It's effing greedy. Cheapest quality enclosure I found was $100 and the 2TB drive will cost me $150 that's $250 to upgrade the storage on a $600 computer. People shouldn't have to do that on a computer with a modular SSD.

[@SPDTDL]

@@whatcouldgowrong7914Exactly

[@pookiepats]

@@whatcouldgowrong7914doy

[@dh3302]

Great teardown video....now let's see the reassembly! 😏

[@jannesvandenboogaert6689]

*plays video in -1 playback speed*

[@manosioa]

I loved you’re teardown. I freaked out when you tasted the little board. You’re crazy and snazzy 😂

[@lonerandy]

Can someone explain to me what he means @ 22:22 when he says Apple accounts of the excepted energy usage of ownership of the machine and how it is factored into the price??

[@microfx]

I just learned those Necco Candies were probably an after-war product when they has plenty of machines to press bullets for the war and then had the idea to continue making money by pressing candy instead

[@snazzy]

Mmm wartime treats

[@tastenheber]

I wonder if the PSU’s input voltage is compatible from 110-240V or if they use different hardware for units sold in different countries?

[@bluekeybo]

6:45 what's going on with the camera lol

[@Technocrat.]

DosDode upgraded that SSD in new mac mini to 1TB

[@MalcolmREBORN]

Sorry, I didn’t understand. Why exactly was there a battery inside? Can anyone enlighten me?

[@PraneyKumar]

It's for the internal clock.

[@snazzy]

It retains clock information and basic firmware flags when the machine is unplugged from the wall.

[@acubley]

Keeps the clock and settings current when powered off.

[@juanmacias5922]

Clock.

[@evo4gplus]

Every motherboard in a Desktop PC has those too.

[@Melchirobin]

Wish I knew you were making a tear down video before I watched Max Techs tear down. Your energy and explanation of everything that you understand is so entertaining. Also was there a sponsor for the video or was it just the LTT screwdriver, if it was amazing integration.

[@snazzy]

No sponsor. Was just pleased with the screwdriver! Thanks!

[@Melchirobin]

@ Amazing video then. I know I have been critical of sponsors in the past but I don’t mind them. I just disliked the effort the team put into vacuum reviews when your talent is this. I love your style of videos no one else in the tech sphere comes even close. Hope you all continue to do what you’re doing.

[@cinebenjamin]

​@@Melchirobinit just so happens that we love robot vacuums so when they pay us to make videos we don't mind putting effort into it. I also don't like not trying even for an addy vacuum video. Sorry Quinn...

[@Melchirobin]

@@cinebenjamin If you guys enjoy it more power to you and keep on doing it. I will personally skip over those but if the team enjoys it amazing. I have heard of being forced into sponsorships with golden handcuffs so I assumed it was one of those types of content, which is my mistake. I incorrectly assumed that you all just did for the money and did not care about the product that much. That all being said just be a bit more realistic with the claims of this is what I use here or the best vacuum statements. It felt like (I could be wrong) that there were three vacuum videos that came out within a year which were all the best. The tone of the video (so not said in words) made it seem like it was a worthwhile upgrade compared to the previous vacuum tested. When these vacuums cost over a thousand dollars sometimes and every one is worth upgrading for it becomes a bit disingenuous in my opinion. Again this is just my opinion from someone who loves watching the tech videos but not the vacuum ones so take it with a grain of salt and keep doing what ur doing.

[@juanmacias5922]

12:03 watching his upgrade video before yours yours is hilarious LMFAO

[@redacted3610]

This thing is an engineering marvel. Bravo Apple Engineers.

[@hisownfool1]

I enjoyed this video a lot, even if watching you "tear down" a brand new Mac mini was anxiety-provoking at times. It doesn't help that I just got mine yesterday and imagined you doing it to mine.

[@chadstern4954]

Can someone explain what the watch battery is for? The internal clock?

[@snazzy]

Correct.

[@MrMurmandramas]

Apple's inner component design is a thing of beauty.

[@coffeewithjayce]

I want to see you put that all together now 🙂 did tearing the copper shield have any effect on the minis operation?

[@snazzy]

I put it all back together. It’s working like a charm!

[@LouieTech]

pls don't fire your editor and camera man for 6:45 he does great work and humans make mistakes

[@snazzy]

Bad news. He’s already 💀.

[@cinebenjamin]

​💀☠️👻

[@arisenadananjaya]

10:07 does it locked tho? like previous mac

[@thelegendaryfk7922]

0:36 that's what she said.

[@enchantedrockview]

😎

[@TechCrunchPK]

😂😂

[@CodexAdrian]

The Mac Mini was also my first computer I purchased with my own money! Im super excited to get one of these, they look awesome!

[@tipturkey1283]

Got my base model m4 mini yesterday and its remarkable how capable it is, talking about it from the perspective of a PCMR/IT guy with a top end daily driver, and how for a system with only an iGPU it can handle modest to moderate games at 1440p60. Blown away it could handle No Mans Sky at 4k high settings around ~45-50fps, using the new Apple Metal upscaler in the "quality" preset. With the Education store sale price of only 800 Aussie dollars, it's a no brainer for kids and family members that aren't big gamers and need a very robust, reliable, easy to use, machine

[@perkulant4629]

“Robust” Apple makes interesting design choices that lead to failures you wouldn’t see usually in other main board designs.

[@tipturkey1283]

@@perkulant4629 i was mainly talking about operating system stability, my point is, i see more end users with 10 year old macbooks than i do 5 year old windows laptops and from personal support experience, MacOS is pretty bullet proof compared to windows and better for less technically inclined users that generally turn to you for help. yes i know a dusty hinge can kill a macbook lol

[@tipturkey1283]

@@perkulant4629 Robust in the sense of OS stability, not board design; when you are recommending a product to a less savvy family member or friend, it's important that the wheels won't continually fall off. Unfortunately, especially these days, Windows has only gotten progressively more bloated and jank over time and keeping on top of frequent restarts and annual re-installs is recommended to get the best out of it whereas MasOS seems to "just work" as 'cringe' as that slogan is. When users are generally hopeless at ever restarting their machines or doing any maintenance or troubleshooting, I wish I could just deploy macs everywhere. I realize that a bit of dust in just the right spot can kill a MacBook but, in a mac mini, there isn't a lot that can go wrong; I've had mac minis deployed at sites where they are all still working 6-8+ years later and we are only interested in phasing them out due to being slow by modern standards. Had a number of users still cling on to 10+yo macbooks for various reasons, often just because they like the reliability of MacOS.

[@testowykana1763]

If there are 3rd party SSSs for the M4 Mini in the future, I think I"m gonna buy it :) What a lovely machine!

[@ankit22sharma]

Apparently a lot of countries have not given WiFi 7 the spectrum approval (including big markets such as India). That may be a reason why, otherwise it could not have been sold here

[@snazzy]

The iPhone 16 has WiFi 7, so what do they do with that?

[@orionarclight]

It's not an issue. manufacturers just disable it in software depending on region just like on phones

[@andrewtfluck]

WiFi 7 doesn't add any additional spectrum requirements, it uses the same spectrum as 6E. The one huge difference with WiFi 7 is MLO which allows for aggregate connections over 2.4, 5, and 6Ghz. But again, no new spectrum being used from my understanding.

[@ankit22sharma]

@@andrewtfluck true but from what I understand in India, WiFi 6e routers started to sell before spectrum approval. Some companies (telcos mostly) created a ruckus about this. I don’t see them listed now. Also I’ve heard stories about how devices could still be WiFi 6e since 6Ghz was not mandatorily required. iPads were for example running basically WiFi 6 in India via software config. For WiFi 7 I believe 6Ghz is mandatorily required so it may cause an issue. This is the same reason the PS5 pro has not launched in India yet.

[@ankit22sharma]

@@snazzy I am seriously confused about this as well. This may be a software lock, however I can't find any official confirmation of this as well. However I do know for a fact that Sony has stated that they are not launching the PS5 pro in India specifically because of 6GHz spectrum requirements in Wifi 7.

[@96Zazza]

Are there any differences between the M4 and M4pro Mac mini inside?

[@LacayoDe]

Unpopular opinion. US AC outlets suck

[@snazzy]

That’s actually quite a popular opinion. A wrong one, but a popular one.

[@radellaf]

It's nice that they are so small, but, yes, I think that's a pretty wide belief. If nothing else, it's WAY too easy to touch the metal when plugging it in. The UK 2-pin ones are what I think are the best. The HUGE round 3-pin plugs are just comically big.

[@bandombeviews6035]

What advantages do US plugs have over EU ones? British plugs are massive, even if they are safe.

[@radellaf]

@@bandombeviews6035 For some things, US are probably a disadvantage. For little USB wall chargers, though? The wide-spaced, long, round pins in most other countries look kind of ridiculously big vs the little charger. The wall outlets or power strips with individual switches (is that UK only?) are also a great safety idea, but absolutely massive. I'm not sure how much safer 110VAC is vs 220, which could be part of it. A better, smaller, plug would be easy to make but it's too late to change a standard like that.

[@jalil0b]

Is it still working after putting it back together?

[@turtleinashirt]

“Am I dumb?” “Sparta!!” All indications point to yes.

[@helloukw]

So, were the Spartans dumb?

[@TanurjyotiBala066]

Did you put it back together?

[@snazzy]

I sure did! Works as good as new!

[@3018744s]

How often I use the power button you ask? EVERY TIME I want to use my Mac because I power it down after I’m done. And saying „I like it“ to a power button on the under side is of course your personal opinion but man, really?

[@snazzy]

Why on earth do you power it down? It draws like 3 watts at idle.

[@3018744s]

@ Because 3W > 0W 😄 Not everyone is using these 24/7. I use my computer every other day for maybe an hour. Often less than this. And considering the price of this Mac, chances are good people with that use case would buy a computer like this.

[@robertp457]

@@snazzy Electricity is expensive where I live and every watt matters. Leaving everything on in my house idling uses 200 watts which costs me .20 an hour. That's 146 a month just from idling electronics.

[@Hortifox_the_gardener]

@@snazzy ... very American way to look at things. Meanwhile I have switched power cords on almost every device and the only exception I will make is a future OLED TV for pixel repair.

[@silvrfruit]

@@robertp457 Where do you live 😮? That’s about 4 times what I pay and I thought my electricity was expensive.

[@SuperWookie01]

How did you reinstall that ripped copper shielding? Is it all back together and working?

[@PatrickKohan91]

I would put the Mini on one of it's sides so the power button is not on the bottom, but the side of it. Would that negatively affect cooling? Speaking of: how is the power supply cooled? It seems the mainboard is shielding off any airflow from it.

[@AmmarRaadAly]

You’re the first youtuber to use his taste buds in the unboxing XD I love it and i love you

[@terminalterminus]

So when do we get to see the M4 Mac Mini Re-assembly video? And does it still work? ;)

[@olbtube]

@Snazzy Any chance those internals will fit in a 2015 macbook pro 15" 🙂?

[@bcarr1122]

What capacitors does Apple use in the Mac Studio?

[@kuroexmachina]

how did the lead and cadmine trace taste when you put that board in your mouth?

[@frankcellini9363]

What an extraordinary piece of design... I doubt it gets any better than this. Very snazzy!

[@Hackslooi0128]

what is the battery's usage in the Mac mini?

[@kenrobertson9995]

That was awesome, thanks! Best line was about the "Special goop" :-D I certainly won't be tearing down mine...when I get it! (Mac Mini m1 ... still runs great but the temptation to upgrade is very strong!)

[@snazzy]

😂 thank YOU! And I don’t blame you for being tempted, but the M1 Mac mini is one of the best machines of all time. Definitely gonna tide you over for years to come!

[@kelrune]

Is that SSD with out DRAM on it. almost looks like no controller either. unless thats on the M4 SOC.

[@snazzy]

Controller is indeed on SoC

[@InspectorGadget2014]

You mention the Mac Mini from 2018 having an i9 for their top-model but I believe you meant instead the core i7? (3.2GHz, 6 cores). I have that model and my only big issue is the cooling, that is really, really bad.I'm thinking of replacing the thermal-paste.

[@indask8]

10:34 Also I think the ram was replaceable on every 2018 models, not only the high end one, I have an i5 and upgraded it to 32GB.

[@InspectorGadget2014]

@@indask8 I think you are correct. I also replaced & upgraded the ram memory. (to, in my case, the maximum 64GB) The only hurdle left for me to take is replacing the thermal paste.

[@benedeklippai0203]

Fun fact: 22:07 that copper is a shielding from the psu

[@logicool2793]

That was a great watch! I was waiting for you to upload the video because I saw all your tweets of the components beforehand

[@tallpaul9475]

I may not be into Apple computers and products, but your channel makes them interesting and entertaining.

[@pocoapoco2]

Does it look like there's enough room somewhere on the aluminum shell to relocate the power button to some location that's more useful? Of course I could always use the thing upside down.

[@mufeedcm]

what kind of degree do you, have, which class should i take to understand these,

[@snazzy]

Business Management 😂

[@mufeedcm]

@@snazzy ha, that's a pretty good carrer change, the reason i asked was because i am curruntly learning electronicd engineering,