M4 Mac mini Teardown - UPGRADABLE Storage, Powerful, and TINY

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@jackmcslay
@jackmcslay Ай бұрын
I don't care if you can swap the SSD, if you can only use a proprietary SSD which Apple themselves does not sell separately, it cannot seriously be considered upgradeable
@0xbenedikt
@0xbenedikt Ай бұрын
Microsoft doesn’t sell SSDs either. It’s only a question of time when one of the storage manufacturers starts selling these as upgrade modules.
@WybremGaming
@WybremGaming Ай бұрын
someone already hacked together a custom board and nands and it works. its only a matter of time before a big company starts mass production
@diamond_h0us
@diamond_h0us Ай бұрын
@@WybremGaming They used Nands scavenged from another Mac. Still need to see someone do it with off the shelf ones.
@WybremGaming
@WybremGaming Ай бұрын
@@diamond_h0us no they bought new nands from a supplier.
@a.zeppeli4454
@a.zeppeli4454 Ай бұрын
​​@@0xbenediktdoes microsoft use proprietary nand modules?
@hrznn
@hrznn Ай бұрын
As others have said, the SSDs aren't sold separately, BUT people are already soldering larger NANDs onto them, so I expect Aliexpress to sell cheap high capacity SSDs in the near future, as well as local repair shops maybe offering similar services. And harvesting these modules from broken Mac Minis will be a big business as well.
@mingm
@mingm Ай бұрын
i dont think so, m1 mac studio also has removable SSD and has been around since 2022. there's still no 3rd party SSD modules available. you still need to treat those as they were soldered ssd
@MariusVirgilConstantin
@MariusVirgilConstantin Ай бұрын
@@mingm Mac Studio is more expensive and it was no demand for 3rd party SSD like the demand that this little Mac mini will have for just 600 dollars.
@shyha
@shyha Ай бұрын
​@@MariusVirgilConstantin good point. It will be very high demand because this M4 base model is a selling hit.
@salmiakki5638
@salmiakki5638 Ай бұрын
@@mingm there is a french company who has done a crowdfunding to sell nand modules for the mac studio. they are saying the are now looking into making modules for the M4 mini aswell. altough i'm not a backer, i don't know if they delivered or not (they do seem a seruious company tho)
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland Ай бұрын
@@salmiakki5638 That's great what's the company called?
@717pixels9
@717pixels9 Ай бұрын
Theoretically upgradable, if Apple desides to sell those storage units separately.
@honggao9610
@honggao9610 Ай бұрын
Or the OEM factory sells QC failed board to the market…….
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 Ай бұрын
Yeah, you know darn well they will NEVER.
@aiexzs
@aiexzs Ай бұрын
or until some random guy in brazil or russia or china makes an entire repo bypassing the drm
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 Ай бұрын
there is a dude that makes modules for the Studio. I guess he is going to make for the mini. In reality, there is little reason besides failure to change it if you have the pro. The first generation of Thunderbolt 5 storage is doing 6GB/s yes gigabytes.
@blueskye8470
@blueskye8470 Ай бұрын
​@@JamesR624 Wrong. They do sell replacement parts for their newer Macs. Might not yet be available since it just released but you can find all the parts for the Mac Studio for example and repair manuals on their website.
@TH-lu9du
@TH-lu9du Ай бұрын
Storage is probably meant to be replaced for Certified Apple Refurbished program, not for the user to evade Apple's spec upgrade charge. That's for external storage
@blueskye8470
@blueskye8470 Ай бұрын
Nope. Apple has a self repair program. Users can replace individual parts, like the storage themselves. Just don't expect the modules to be better value for the money when you buy them as repair parts.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
@RunForPeace-hk1cu Ай бұрын
@@blueskye8470 you're supposed to get replacement parts from Apple ... good try though.
@ExperienceCN
@ExperienceCN Ай бұрын
Property Storage isn’t a plus. Not feasible for normal consumers. In china you can even upgrade your iPhone storage for cheap. They do it on the street. ifixit should upgrade their game.
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh Ай бұрын
@@ExperienceCN Any links? it would be interesting to see
@colindoyle9876
@colindoyle9876 Ай бұрын
Apple will only sell you the exact same storage
@NiGHTSaturn
@NiGHTSaturn Ай бұрын
I have a little feeling that OWC might want to work on a replacement SSD. They’ve already done a lot of great upgrade parts for older Mac models.
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
OWC and maybe Transcend, who also did this in the past.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Ай бұрын
OWC is a great company.
@Kattakam
@Kattakam Ай бұрын
Yes, agree- mac mini looks sweet but true that you must make sure you get the ram amounts while buying it
@shapelessed
@shapelessed Ай бұрын
That right there. I use a MacBook on the go because it's the only laptop out there that's fast enough and silent, but for heavy stuff I'm sticking with my rusty PC that even though slower, lets me upgrade just the thing I need when I need...
@fadelfarinsqi4304
@fadelfarinsqi4304 Ай бұрын
@@shapelessed Do you prefer having slow PC with mighty RAM running LLM or a pricier mac with big RAM and run LLM on it?
@shapelessed
@shapelessed Ай бұрын
@fadelfarinsqi4304 I prefer paying 1X for memory. Not 8x. On a Mac I would either have to quantize the LLM or not run at all, on a PC I can get effectively 128GB of memory for the same price as 32 on a Mac. It's slower, but what good serves me faster memory if there isn't enough of it.
@luipaardprint
@luipaardprint Ай бұрын
@@shapelessedto be fair 99.9 % of people do not need 128 gigs of ram.
@shapelessed
@shapelessed Ай бұрын
@@luipaardprint To be fair it wasn't my point. Enough memory is more important in 99.9% of cases than faster memory.
@Gaspar314
@Gaspar314 Ай бұрын
It wouldn’t take long for third parties to sell SSD upgrades. Sweet!
@OleksandrDunets
@OleksandrDunets Ай бұрын
What's the point of a removable storage if it can't be replaced with a storage from another manufacturer?
@GamingParadise630
@GamingParadise630 Ай бұрын
If SSD crashes then it can be replaced by Apple part and the mac mini can be used again
@detoga
@detoga Ай бұрын
well maybe not officially it's still easier to upgrade. And Apple can repair it better.
@OleksandrDunets
@OleksandrDunets Ай бұрын
@ No way - before that happens, you'll already update your mini twice to a newer version
@detoga
@detoga Ай бұрын
@@OleksandrDunets I'm still using an old 2009 iMac
@aiexzs
@aiexzs Ай бұрын
@@detoga why though
@bmiller949
@bmiller949 Ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the ease of changing the CMOS battery. The other items are above my paygrade and I will pay someone else to swap out.
@rdyt0
@rdyt0 Ай бұрын
With the Mac mini, you're basically paying for RAMs and SSD, the rest are complimentary.
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike Ай бұрын
I prefer to look at it a different way. If you buy the base model, you're letting everyone who pays for one or more of the $200 upgrades pay the Apple tax for you!
@rdyt0
@rdyt0 Ай бұрын
​@@EnglishMike Buying 2x base models(16G+256G) is actually cheaper than buying 1x upgraded model with twice the RAM and SSD, 32G+512G). This would be considered tax evasion from your perspective, right?
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike Ай бұрын
​@@rdyt0 Nice, though perhaps it's more a tax loophole than tax evasion...
@RealWorldReview
@RealWorldReview Ай бұрын
Are there any plans to check the M4 iMac to see if it got the same SSD treatment?
@thecanmanification
@thecanmanification Ай бұрын
So many people not understanding why the ssd change is a genuine improvement for repairability. The fact that it’s not soldered directly to the board and the memory controller is now on its own daughterboard means that if either component breaks it’s a much cheaper/easier repair than it was before.
@pinkysweets
@pinkysweets Ай бұрын
almost nothing changes, apple does not sell replacement, you still need to solder new BLANK nand chip onto that board, and that board has drm. the only thing changed is doing soldering work on that removable board is easier than the main board
@PaoYong
@PaoYong Ай бұрын
Upgradeability aside the engineering of this thing is pretty beautiful. Not a little bit of space wasted.
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace Ай бұрын
The storage being replaceable is a standard bar to meet. That being said, the ports being replaceable deserves recognition. Way to go, Apple.
@Benlucky13
@Benlucky13 Ай бұрын
if anyone was curious like I was what size the 'chonky' torx mentioned at 4:05 actually is, it's a t25
@tim3172
@tim3172 Ай бұрын
These zoomers (and people who lower themselves to talk like zoomers) really should have an adult review their supposedly-factual video to make sure it contains actual information.
@applehugger
@applehugger Ай бұрын
I chuckled at that. The German cars I work on use T60 torx for things like the driveshaft flex disc and belt tensioners! T30 and T45 are also very common.
@D.u.d.e.r
@D.u.d.e.r Ай бұрын
Beautifully teared down, thx iFixit👍Apple should make these M.2-like modular storage modules swappable and widely accessible for the future upgrade and also not crazy expensive! SoC and RAM r soldered in and very little can be done with that due to performance benefits, however SSD storage should be fully upgradeable.
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike Ай бұрын
They should, but we all know they won't.
@fritzp9916
@fritzp9916 Ай бұрын
They could and should just use standard M.2 drives, but they won't because their pricing depends on the storage not being replaceable by a 3rd party SSD.
@peporgan
@peporgan Ай бұрын
Why does he say it’s upgradable storage? It’s not. Apple will never sell those modules separately.
@spiritualastralsoul
@spiritualastralsoul Ай бұрын
Clickbait! Like most videos on YT nowadays
@davidschaub7965
@davidschaub7965 Ай бұрын
It *could* be upgradable by third parties, if you have a second Mac around :)
@lenajk2004
@lenajk2004 Ай бұрын
if previous generation (2012-2015) macs are anything to go by, then 3rd party companies will have replacements available asap.
@chloedegurechaff1941
@chloedegurechaff1941 Ай бұрын
Because like we've done in the past. all it takes is someone to figure out the pin out of that connector, and make a little adapter for m.2 sdd, similarly to the trashcan pro
@GimmeTOKYO
@GimmeTOKYO Ай бұрын
Just because Apple may not sell upgrade modules in the future doesn’t mean third-parties won’t.
@twigmuzik5550
@twigmuzik5550 Ай бұрын
Where can i find the ssd to buy ? I’ve watched many videos but no one is telling where to find the ssd to buy
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
YOU CANNOT FIND IT OR BUY IT, except you somehow steal another mac mini m4 user ssds or given by them
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Ай бұрын
There are shady companies that will solder higher capacities to your drive for you. But then you're without your computer for a couple weeks because you have to send it to them. There is a company, forget their name, that did an Indigogo campaign for Mac Studio drives. Not sure what came of it. This is going to be a very popular computer. In a year or 2 there will almost certainly be dozens of sellers on AliExpress for replacement drives. Most of them will work, but much slower than first party. A small handfull will be good.
@arnav_1290r
@arnav_1290r 22 күн бұрын
Can we put m.2 ssds in there?​@@arc8218
@pocoapoco2
@pocoapoco2 Ай бұрын
I think the copper sheet is as much for noise reduction and signal integrity as it is for thermal management.
@adamfewings1273
@adamfewings1273 Ай бұрын
But can you physically swap the nand chips from the pro model to not the pro model? (Via hot air/soldering)
@linglingstar
@linglingstar Ай бұрын
yes
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
I think you may need a nand programmer though and the right initiation file
@linglingstar
@linglingstar Ай бұрын
@@valdir7426 no Idea how it works but I saw I think from DosDude that it needs to be a complete blank NAND chip. So you can't take one from an NVME SSD for example and just solder it on there. It has to be factory blank because the controller is on the M4 SoC and not no the stick that apple is using there. Only other option would be a NAND from another apple silicon product. I'm sure several youtubers will be trying this out soon
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@linglingstar or just buy a blank nand from the manufacturer; that's pretty much what dosdude did (he did use a programmer at some point but maybe for another machine?)
@jmoney211
@jmoney211 15 күн бұрын
They realize that the ram is soldered because it's unified memory, right?
@Maubald
@Maubald Ай бұрын
What’s the purpose of the lithium battery at 1:34? Thanks in advance :)
@readeral
@readeral Ай бұрын
It's for the RTC (real time clock). Helps the computer retain the time and also other UEFI settings. All sub-OS level stuff you don't have to worry about.
@kediloaf
@kediloaf Ай бұрын
@@readeral Do all computers rely on a similar battery solution to handle these low level functions? And how are customers supposed to know when it needs replacing?
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@kediloaf yes every desktop computer has a button battery, mac or pc. You know it needs replacing when the date and time suddenly reset on your computer when you have cut the power to it.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын
Beautiful teardown 🥹🔥
@mysterychemical
@mysterychemical Ай бұрын
5:28 And upgradibility score of 1.
@arwincapati287
@arwincapati287 Ай бұрын
can the power button be modified and placed in the apple logo?
@colindoyle9876
@colindoyle9876 Ай бұрын
Settings > Energy > Power ON after power failure .
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
@@colindoyle9876 Will sooner or later corrupt your memory. Just keep the Mac in standby and suffer the minimal extra current consumption of around 1€/year.
@JeanBaptisteChabi
@JeanBaptisteChabi Ай бұрын
Everyone on KZbin talk about 3d printing solving problem as if a 3d printer is something you found on avery backyard 😂
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
there's probably a community place where you can do that somewhere near you. I know I have that; I just pay a small fee monthly and that's it.
@johnnyqd6861
@johnnyqd6861 Ай бұрын
@@valdir7426A lot of libraries have 3D printers available. I tend to save any little prints I’m interested in on an SD card, find out the libraries printing hours, and print them in one big batch every six months or so
@NiranjanNanda
@NiranjanNanda Ай бұрын
i think shutterfly or costco should start provide 3d-printing as a service 😀 or maybe FedEx/UPS in their kiosks 😀
@JoshuaLotion
@JoshuaLotion Ай бұрын
At this point it almost is. Online printing services are everywhere (even in my 3rd world ass country), and I doubt u dont know a single person without one.
@BaconFaceMcGee
@BaconFaceMcGee Ай бұрын
I’m stunned that Apple used removable storage!
@maxschmidt666
@maxschmidt666 Ай бұрын
Until the end of 2012: Macbook Pro: -No glued battery -No soldered SSD -No soldered RAM Everything was easy to repair, even the screen. If something breaks on those old machines, you can still get parts for it all over the internet. Without Apple Tax.
@GamingLiveEnt457PH
@GamingLiveEnt457PH Ай бұрын
Except their Own something you CAN'T FIND ELSEWHERE
@davidschaub7965
@davidschaub7965 Ай бұрын
No photos of the M4 Pro package or power supply?
@IMDANIELAUSTIN
@IMDANIELAUSTIN Ай бұрын
Aren’t those components built internally or are asking to see an xray of the M4 Pro package like they did at the 00:22 mark
@davidschaub7965
@davidschaub7965 Ай бұрын
@@IMDANIELAUSTIN I just mean removing the heat sink from the SoC package, showing the memory chips with the SoC chip. Sure, I would love to see some de-lidded shots of the SoC, but that would almost certainly be a destructive process.
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
This is not a Mini PC with an external power block .... power supply is internal.
@davidschaub7965
@davidschaub7965 Ай бұрын
@@Andreas_Straub Exactly why it would be nice for a teardown video to show them :)
@xmister6554
@xmister6554 25 күн бұрын
Sehr gutes Video, Herr Lüning, Dank dafür.
@matthewdropco
@matthewdropco Ай бұрын
Hopefully, they will allow aftermarket, or apple store purchaseable hard drives in the future. Luckily there are external options that will probably work for most people till then. So getting a base model and waiting for those internal hard drives will be the way to go for many.
@mk1st
@mk1st Ай бұрын
Cool, just ordered my Mac Mini today, Lots of buzz about it, seems like it's going to be great. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the USBC/Thunderbolt cable format is going to be the standard for the rest of my life ( a guy can dream eh?)
@nakleh
@nakleh Ай бұрын
I *love* my Pro Tech Toolkit! I use it almost every day. I just used it to dismantle a few old hard drives before discarding them.
@davidjohnsonny
@davidjohnsonny Ай бұрын
omg i love these videos! keep it up guys!
@Aldo.flores
@Aldo.flores Ай бұрын
This is actually a good thing, if the ssd it’s not paired with the computer, it could be installed a new one. This has a couple weeks on the market right now so it’s a fact that 3rd party manufacturers gonna make this ssd’s to upgrade your device, just like the OWA disks for all MacBooks with a proprietary connectors, that are actually incredibly good
@MossySparks
@MossySparks Ай бұрын
The power button is on the bottom because of the Apple Air Tag. More devices left sitting idle improves their tracking network. %100 that's why. Luckily for those in the know and with gumption everything is a wire connection.
@onkelebert787
@onkelebert787 Ай бұрын
Is there any schedule, when third party storage upgrades are avaiable? I consider to buy an M4 32/256 and upgrade the storage later on.
@99999me1
@99999me1 Ай бұрын
I hope someone starts selling storage modules. 🙏
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
its not someone, but apple itself
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@arc8218 not a chance; they'll sell repair parts to dealer and that's all. But a third party will probably make an upgrade kit.
@PaoYong
@PaoYong Ай бұрын
That “someone” would need to have an entire factory, build a bespoke component that not many people will buy. Yeah it aint gonna happen unless maybe some bootleg chinese manufacturer would take it up
@bradneufeld1925
@bradneufeld1925 Ай бұрын
​@@PaoYong OWC has done it in the past.
@PaoYong
@PaoYong Ай бұрын
@ that’s good to hear. Also learning more about it it seems to be easier because the ssd controller is on the mainboard not the ssd
@RobertValdez-z1n
@RobertValdez-z1n Ай бұрын
Great video! I am glad I watched it! Also, if I need any upgrades done, I will pay a certified Mac repair guy to do them.
@reddcube
@reddcube Ай бұрын
What are the chances of 3rd party SSDs?
@Gheisenberg
@Gheisenberg Ай бұрын
Salute to you, iFixit.
@colindoyle9876
@colindoyle9876 Ай бұрын
Power button not needed. Settings > Energy > Power ON after power failure . Cycle AC will switch it on
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
Bad and unnecessary "solution". Just increases the probability of memory corruption. Keep the Mac in standby. I assume that he extra cost of around a Euro per year can be survived.
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@Andreas_Straub what do you mean? you can use the standby mode normally and still have an auto power on for those exceptionnal times when you have a power failure? having it turn on automatically each time you plug it is another option entirely (that you can set I think with the terminal)
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
@@valdir7426 I am more concerned about the non regular shutdown leading to this automatic power-on ....
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@Andreas_Straub that's called a power failure and it usually happens close to never. could also be due to human error. I don't think anybody suggested you simply unplug your computer to shut it down; or at least I hope so. but yeah definitely put your computer to sleep for regular use.
@phil.1
@phil.1 Ай бұрын
Can the Mac Mini M4 Pro heatsink and fan be swapped onto the base M4? That would be a fun mod if it could with easy swap
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
probably yes
@ScottJWaldron
@ScottJWaldron Ай бұрын
Non-upgradable RAM is definitely a negative, but otherwise it seems decent. 👍
@peksn
@peksn Ай бұрын
Honestly with the thunderbolt 4 that comes with it i dont even feel that much oressure to have to het a bigger ssd in the mac itself
@AreaNeraTV
@AreaNeraTV 15 күн бұрын
It’s possible that upgrades will be available on stores like aliexpress in few months. Base model is the way to go
@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee
@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee 26 күн бұрын
Is the Wi-Fi antenna on the bottom? like the previous Mac mini or is it actually on the top when you lay it flat?
@MadmanLink
@MadmanLink Ай бұрын
In Canada the Mac Pro with all upgrades not including software is 6k!
@janhavlis8142
@janhavlis8142 29 күн бұрын
Hi, does anyone know if the M4 Mac Mini's logic board can run off a bench power supply, or does it require communication with the original PSU? I'm considering embedding it in a sleeper PC. Thanks!
@sejuyz
@sejuyz Ай бұрын
how much of a difference is there between connecting an external drive versus upgrading the internal ssd?
@enzolorenzo2589
@enzolorenzo2589 Ай бұрын
I've found that the Orico SSD enclosure with a Samsung 2TB M2 on the M2 MacBook Pro is just as fast as the internal SSD.
@bstaznkid4lyfe392
@bstaznkid4lyfe392 Ай бұрын
The downside with Apple is the storage capacity..You can't install a regular Nvme inside it..
@caffettinotime1888
@caffettinotime1888 Ай бұрын
This mac is a beast 🎉🎉🎉
@frosted1030
@frosted1030 Ай бұрын
The x-ray almost looks like they wanted to make an arc reactor but changed their mind halfway through.
@0xCAFEF00D
@0xCAFEF00D 28 күн бұрын
2:20 Interesting choice to exhaust straight into your intake.
@larsmartinhambro7848
@larsmartinhambro7848 Ай бұрын
macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 did its support intel cpu or need m4 to load?
@ashwinoashwin
@ashwinoashwin Ай бұрын
Are they. using 2 nand chips , for ex 256 gb = 2X 128gb or is it single like m2? I remember the single caused a lot of problems in the m2
@-johnny-deep-
@-johnny-deep- Ай бұрын
What is the small button battery needed for?
@Kakashi-qz7ri
@Kakashi-qz7ri Ай бұрын
So the warranty is gone ?
@bigboomer751
@bigboomer751 27 күн бұрын
its a state of mind
@hatrez3679
@hatrez3679 29 күн бұрын
MacBook Pro M4 Pro please. I am considering buying it but I am scared that it will fail like my previous MacBook to dustgate. How repairable is it?
@EnglishMike
@EnglishMike Ай бұрын
The holy grail, if there's room, would be an adapter card you can plug a regular NVME drive into (even if it's has to be a small one). I suspect that could be difficult since the controller chip is on the motherboard, but ingenuity might find a way.
@armo4594
@armo4594 Ай бұрын
Nice teardown, we appreciate it. thank you
@gain6786
@gain6786 Ай бұрын
any info on the 3.5jack? can it power high ohm headphones?
@Elite.868
@Elite.868 Ай бұрын
Not high impedance
@antonio.zanella
@antonio.zanella Ай бұрын
Yes. "audio jack with support for high-impedance headphones". Source: web Apple newsroom.
@vamsi9520
@vamsi9520 Ай бұрын
If we want to upgrade there needs to be a another slot but if it is only one slot it is impossible to upgrade because OS is required and Mac OS isnt available in Apple website for download and Install
@M_E_T_R_O__9
@M_E_T_R_O__9 Ай бұрын
does this invalidate your warranty? i'd imagine it would......
@tedz2000
@tedz2000 Ай бұрын
Where to buy the upgrade chips and do they come in 1tb and beyond
@BitSmythe
@BitSmythe Ай бұрын
1:38. *A consumable that should not be consumed!*
@neilpeerthy2355
@neilpeerthy2355 Ай бұрын
saw a lot of comments talking about whether it is proprietory ssd or not. But doesn't it look alike to a mini m.2 SSD ?
@bolttracks
@bolttracks Ай бұрын
I still doubt that this cooling system can actually prevent the M4 Pro from throttling when both GPU and CPU are at full tilt. Also a proprietary SSD is by no means upgradable.
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
ffs yes it is upgradable; people have already done it in fact, it just means that with the right part you can upgrade the mac; not that you can stick any M.2 drive in there and it will work. the part will very probably be available at some point from some 3rd party; and in any case you can find shops that can do the ugprade for you; even for laptops.
@tensixtythreecomics
@tensixtythreecomics Ай бұрын
So what is the correct drive to buy to upgrade?
@a.zeppeli4454
@a.zeppeli4454 Ай бұрын
It doesn't exist. The one shown in the video is only a proprietary nand module not a full drive. The only way to get one at least for now, and probably forever, is by buying another m4 mac mini
@tensixtythreecomics
@tensixtythreecomics Ай бұрын
⁠that’s what I figured. I have a small amount of hope that someone will make one that we can buy. My 2012 is getting old!
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
@@tensixtythreecomics it will very likely happen; eventually. in the meantime you can use external storage and live with 256 GB without a sweat.
@tensixtythreecomics
@tensixtythreecomics Ай бұрын
@@valdir7426yeah I was looking at thunderbolt drives. It’s a good trade off. Then if a drive is made I can add it later
@owendyer6583
@owendyer6583 Ай бұрын
Any chance this is possible on the m4 MacBook pros?
@williamshaneblyth
@williamshaneblyth Ай бұрын
Thr speed of the external ports is insane. You get the cheaest mini m4 and get a samsung 1 orv2 tb drive n put your stuff on it. You even run all your apos from the external drive snd its as fast ss the internal.
@echoless3484
@echoless3484 Ай бұрын
Will there be a 24" iMac teardown?
@whatever8282828
@whatever8282828 Ай бұрын
What do you mean how did they fit it in there? It is exactly a medium-range MacBook pro with no battery or screen. Why didn't they fit it in there before? (institutional inertia to keep the case sized for server racks, etc)
@nameless-user
@nameless-user Ай бұрын
I kinda want one of these things now as a development platform, alongside my conventional PC. Since I would be doing most of the work on the PC, I think I could get away with the base model for my use case.
@brijeshjoshi7756
@brijeshjoshi7756 Ай бұрын
Can we upgrade into more ram?
@Ankit5311
@Ankit5311 Ай бұрын
No
@Gmon750
@Gmon750 Ай бұрын
This does give hope but because it's involves using the Configurator (and another Mac) to finish the upgrade means no 3rd-party provider will sell to the general public. I can see countless newbies bricking their Mac out of ignorance and blaming the 3rd-party companies.
@yumi8888
@yumi8888 Ай бұрын
want to see Mini M4 Pro CPU
@masterwatch
@masterwatch Ай бұрын
can you use 3rd party storage ?
@honts13
@honts13 29 күн бұрын
hmm.. a button cell.. how often do you need to change it? oops.. i mean, how much does it cost to replace it?.. :p
@RichardServello
@RichardServello Ай бұрын
Also, no glue or expensive special tools needed to repair. I remember when I swapped the HDD from my 2010 Mac mini with an SSD and I needed a few special tools (one was literally to lift the motherboard out of the case) and they were VERY expensive.
@alphaLONE
@alphaLONE Ай бұрын
could we see how the M4 Pro chip looks under that heatsink?
@marksmodellingmadness
@marksmodellingmadness Ай бұрын
With regard to the power switch- would it be possible to move it to the space in the aluminium casing above the switch on the back of the casing? I know this would mean drilling a hole in the metal, possibly (most likely, actually) invalidating the warranty but would it be possible?
@larssandvik1347
@larssandvik1347 Ай бұрын
I’ve owned every generation of Mac mini and I love these devices but up until now you’ve always had to buy them exactly the way you wanted to own them their entire life cycle. Hopefully somebody will release the storage module for sale. This will definitely send a message to Apple for them to start making user upgradable products when somebody else is making money businesses usually listen
@skepticsr_us
@skepticsr_us Ай бұрын
Impressive review!
@markgalveston604
@markgalveston604 Ай бұрын
What do you charge to upgrade m4 with 1 TB drive?
@Kloverkill
@Kloverkill Ай бұрын
Removable doesn't mean upgradeable if third-party drives aren't available. Nobody has assessed the software/hardware locks on these Apple SSD modules. If your entire upgrade path is trying to find someone with the same M4 model as you selling off an old drive, that's not a big cause for celebration.
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
The exchange of the NANDS only has already been done and worked fine. No sw locks.
@arc8218
@arc8218 Ай бұрын
@@Andreas_Straub yeah everyone can swap those nands :\
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
@@arc8218 That is why you should wit until some pros either offer that service or even complete modules.
@Andreas_Straub
@Andreas_Straub Ай бұрын
@@arc8218 This how a Pro does this: "Brand new M4 Mac Mini Upgrade SSD | 256GB To 2TB"
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
lol dosdude has a video showing a storage upgrade on the macmini that was published almost on day one of the delivery. of course people have "assessed software/hardware locks" that's an apple software called apple configurator and you simply do a DFU restore. Upgrade for the studio are already available to purchase; and specialized stores can do upgrade on laptops/desktops for you; that's not black magic. It's just a matter of some manufacturers making and selling the parts.
@ennis_w
@ennis_w Ай бұрын
I think replaceable storage units are also easier for Apple to assemble and reassemble them. Because I saw a lot of ridiculous configurations in Apple refurbished store, such as 8GB + 2TB.
@RicardoLandinginJr
@RicardoLandinginJr 8 күн бұрын
where can u buy the 512 upgrade ?
@ibeeverywhere
@ibeeverywhere Ай бұрын
Wait so do I have to set up the system before I change the ssd?
@georgioslachanas5379
@georgioslachanas5379 Ай бұрын
Are there separate controllers for each tb4 and usb-c ports or some ports use shared controllers?
@SelcukTaskin-pr9ek
@SelcukTaskin-pr9ek Ай бұрын
Da gibt es auch viele Videos mit 2 TB SSD eingebaut ist.
@coooguy1
@coooguy1 27 күн бұрын
Good upgradability and thank God the storage is upgradable. The third party companies will make it way cheaper to just buy a base model and upgrade the storage yourself.
@royhendriks8763
@royhendriks8763 Ай бұрын
Apple hit a homerun with these!
@banepigeon
@banepigeon Ай бұрын
Where can we buy replacement SSDs?
@enzolorenzo2589
@enzolorenzo2589 Ай бұрын
The question now is: When will the Kickstarter project or a supplier with an SSD adapter or its own SSD module arrive? Similar to the Studio. I would be surprised if they weren't already fully involved.
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
if the french guys are successeful with the studio they may move on to the mini. or somebody else.
@mdihero
@mdihero Ай бұрын
Crazy that being upgradable is a selling point
@IronHulkTriathlon
@IronHulkTriathlon Ай бұрын
Where can I purchase the storage?
@valdir7426
@valdir7426 Ай бұрын
nowhere for now.
@StudyWithNika
@StudyWithNika Ай бұрын
Are PSUs identical for M4 and M4 pro Mac Minis? Or is there a difference in internal components being used for example capacitors
@TRC714
@TRC714 Ай бұрын
Where is the i before the 2nd U in Aluminum?
@jasonguo7186
@jasonguo7186 29 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the accessories!
@Flapjck
@Flapjck 20 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why people are saying the SSD isn’t upgradable. With Apple’s prices being so high, it’s simply a matter of time until someone makes a cheeper alternative.
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