M8 Tracker Discord Meetup (Version 4.0)

Discord meet-up to go over the new firmware version 4.0
Join us on discord - / discord
Timestamps: ( Credits: Simon Wollwage)
0:00:00 Start
0:01:18 Pre-order update
0:02:15 Firmware 4.0
0:02:37 Play button behavior
0:03:26 Instrument pool
0:06:26 Preload samples on song cue load
0:08:08 Trig envelope fast forward
0:10:20 Pitch mod destination amount for small values
0:11:55 ADSR small value scaling
0:12:39 Drunk LFO shape no longer retriggers from 0
0:13:45 Delay send now with mono summed input
0:14:45 FX list redesign
0:15:55 New ART command
0:16:17 New INS instrument command
0:17:00 Global groove command
0:17:20 DJF command renamed and new DJR and DJT commands
0:18:15 RTO command
0:19:35 Table tick FE mode
0:21:25 Scale tuning option
0:22:10 New limiter modes
0:24:15 New filters
0:26:00 Wavsynth wavetables
0:29:45 Control surface support
0:35:00 EQ
0:40:00 Q&A
0:57:00 Upcoming shows
1:00:20 Song #1 - Space Juice (Atalhlla)
1:07:00 Song #2 - Hurt You (Bruce Menace)
1:11:10 Song #3 - Decay (Couldn't Be You)
1:14:10 Song #4 - Overhyped (DDMM64)
1:17:20 Song #5 - Happy Sirius (Euphemism)
1:20:15 Song #6 - Track00 (Fishtorch)
1:23:06 Song #7 - technono-3 (kaibuster)
1:26:30 Song #8 - Pursuit (Mad Operator)
1:30:30 Song #9 - Vortex Force Ultra (Mulperi)
1:34:20 Song #10 - Bus Stop (Octopod)
1:37:00 Song #11 - Lemon Slices (Rum Raisin)
1:43:40 Song #12 - thoth (spark)
1:47:15 Song #13 - Rereverb (Twwi)
1:53:14 Song #14 - simulacra (aliatheseer)
1:57:40 Song #15 - Æðelwulf (BlueWolfSe7en)
2:04:00 Song #16 - The Interleaver (bryface)
2:06:50 Song #17 - Miss Linda Lee (Disposable Planet)
2:15:25 Song #18 - Dark Gummy (Eridon)
2:22:45 Song #19 - Verdensrommet (faRk)
2:26:15 Song #20 - O.O.P. Basement (Gleix)
2:30:50 Song #21 - plasmashock3 (glitchpop)
2:33:33 Song #22 - Ultraliminal Massive (Graz)
2:38:30 Song #23 - Voices of Distraction (Ineffable)
2:41:50 Song #24 - Eddie Munsters Mud Puddle (Jegasus)
2:44:00 Song #25 - Special Ham (Jimmac)
2:48:22 Song #26 - Spectral Pine (Kris Shamloo)
2:51:07 Song #27 - Nanopasta (Layer)
2:55:40 Song #28 - 4 Track (Liminal Eris)
2:58:40 Song #29 - LM_004 (Logan Mannstrane)
3:04:30 Song #30 - Scramble (Mikey303)
3:08:03 Song #31 - D3th (Nutty Dubs)
3:11:18 Song #32 - Fay (Rats Rebook)
3:16:36 Song #33 - Sanity-Metrics (Solmare)
3:19:36 Song #34 - Heat Wave (that_ranjit)
3:25:18 Song #35 - The Disapearence of Mr. Frog (xavier)

[@that_Ranjit]

Thanks for a great meetup! I think the new firmware exceeded everyone's expectations. Somehow you keep making this device more and more powerful and more fun to use. It is, by far, my most used piece of gear I have ever owned and has been an amazing tool to enhance my creativity. I appreciate your vulnerability at the end there, too--off stream. Knowing that your dad was the person who introduced you to trackers makes this whole M8 journey hit differently for me. Thanks for all the love you continue to put into this project and towards the community as a whole.

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

Oh snap! I missed that tracker origin story…must’ve skipped around too much 🤦‍♂️ You recall around what time in the recording?

[@that_Ranjit]

@@CreeewDeeeTaaay it was off stream

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

@@that_Ranjitdoh! Well, thanks for the insider info 🤓

[@MrKjDrake]

The M8 is the most useful and fun song composing device I’ve ever had the pleasure of owning in over 30yrs of music production. Tim is a genius! Thank you for the continued support and updates. It’s much appreciated by M8 owners.

[@deyoungstar]

Amen!

[@mikamulperi]

Agreed

[@Jebrald0]

Good lord Tim! Going beyond the limits of what I thought was possible with a teensy! How on earth are you fitting so many features in this update, Holy moly! Absolute genius :)

[@botsim1715]

How am i ever going to learn all its functions

[@7177YT]

Holy moly, those wavetables and those eq banks ...mind blown! ((: Can't wait to dig into the new firmware! Thanks for the timestamps, chefs kiss! Love you guys, can't thank you enough for providing us with this fine instrument! Cheers!

[@RaialMusic]

JESUS CHRIST, I WISH I COULD POST THE MEME OF THE GUY THAT JUST KEEPS GETTING MORE EXCITED AND IMPRESSED. The EQ part had me going nuts lmao. And there I was “would be cool if it was per instrument”…. *1 second later* “and its on the instruments too”. The mad lad’s done it! Well done!!!!!

[@mbbmbbmm]

Absolutely! Same reaction regarding EQ haha

[@gertistamherd]

I legit shat myself. This little game boy is a fxking MOSTER (also eq on fx is an absolute wet dream)

[@Usul]

How does this device keep getting better, and not in incremental ways, but in massive new features that continue to ship. It is incredible! Very glad to be a M8 owner.

[@TayTayMakesBeats]

This is exactly what I was wishing for but thought would be too much of a stretch to expect, at least for a long time. So many of these features are game changers in a device that was already filled to the brim with game changers. I feel blessed, thanks Trash80 and your dedicated community. What I'd like to see at some point is a 2 pole/4 pole selectiom for filters. Even 1 pole/6db for that Buchla LPG flavor.

[@mbbmbbmm]

Massive update!!! Wow, I love every single new feature and improvement and the EQ of course takes the cake. Thoroughly, deeply impressed, thank you so much!!

[@SONWU]

Such great work! Can't wait to get my M8 v2 😁

[@lnknmusic]

Hey everyone, I’m relatively new to the m8, have only had it for a few months and didn’t even know what a tracker really even was when I bought it, and wow…. What an amazing piece if gear. I’ve been making music for 15 years, and I’ve barely only scratched the surface on this thing but I can tell already that it’s the most powerful device I’ve ever owned. Very happy with my purchase, and what an unexpected, amazing bonus to find such a great community surrounding the m8. I’ve realized that one of the best ways to tell if a device is going to be totally worth the money spent is by looking into the community surrounding the device, if one even exists at all. It’s a pretty clear indicator that you won’t be disappointed if the community is strong, like this one (this doesn’t apply to anything by Teenage Engineering for some reason 😂 you have to find that out on your own). Anyways, I’m actually commenting because I have a question. Is there any way at all to update the firmware on my m8 without a computer? I currently only have an iPad and it seems like I’m sh*t out of luck, is that true? Thank you in advance. Btw I just uploaded my first song that I made on the m8 to my page if anyone feels like checking it out! Had fun messing with the different limiter modes on that one.

[@mikey303]

Sadly there's no way to update without a computer handy! I hope that a solution can be made someday. Glad you are connecting with the device so much. It's my holy grail gear as well :)

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

Not sure if it's possible, but I wonder if you could use a RasPi to push the firmware update, away from home...could be that there's something like TyTools available for Linux, and could be installed to a Pi. Not exactly sans-computer, since the Pi is def a computer, but more portable, absolutely!

[@SantiagoGT15]

I joined on this one and what you’re doing with the M8 it’s just unbelievable! Keep up the great work I’ll keep supporting!

[@nikolafeve]

Tim, you are a genius! personally the last feature to get the perfect firmware should be an offline pitchshift/timestretch

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

We can dream, right? Though, betting that it’s too cpu intensive to realistically run on the teensy in a usable way (like, without major offline processing time/lag).

[@nikolafeve]

@@CreeewDeeeTaaay Yes of course it will never happen in a realtime form, but i'm totally ok to have this feature offline even if the process take some time 🙏🏻

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

@@nikolafeve Same! An oldschool Akai timestretch option in the offline sample manipulation options would be ACE. Though, you can already achieve, realtime, something akin to that via the LFO>>sample start trick, for looping samples in time with your project tempo. So, I bet you could abuse that technique for non-BPM-matching purposes...if you've not tried that yet, it's highly recommended 😀

[@nikolafeve]

@@CreeewDeeeTaaay Thank you, yes i already use this technique, pretty nice but not perfect

[@teabreakbeats]

Can't wait for my v2 to arrive!

[@NiftyNodes]

These are my favorite. You all are so talented. Cannot wait to join these!

[@GrazCore]

Thank you for reposting these. Always such a treat to hear all the amazing submissions

[@eridon63]

Eridon&Graz when ?

[@minimals1ck]

can't wait for my first m8(v2) Team july

[@LlewynDaviesTheThird]

Insanely good update. Just remarkable how perfectly the interface has not been compromised .. it’s been improved and yet the functionality and feature set has expanded so dramatically. Quite incredible

[@ellopropello]

wow! so many new features comming up. you rock!!! and so much nice music :D a real pleasure

[@OIP_1]

ho-ly shit. i've been sitting on 3.2.6 for months this is like christmas. legendary as ever.

[@nnonickmusic]

this was sooo amazing :) thanks for a amazing meetup :D

[@BNLNRD]

Reading the discord chat during the presentation was... Something! Tim out here working miracles

[@mogesus]

Ok, wasn’t expecting an EQ, so hyped to try this new firmware!

[@deyoungstar]

Impressive update!! Thank you! I’m looking forward to receiving my preorder.

[@gctechs]

Model 2 has that 1980s feeling to it... It looks like something from the KITT's dashboard.

[@NoiseCommander3DS]

Great as always, thanks for the good work!

[@olastrandh2977]

Insane stuff. Great work!

[@mad.operator]

Amazing updates, thanks for your hard work and for paying my tune ❤

[@kaibuster]

instrument pool 😭 ARC/ART 😎🤩EQ 😭😭🤩 no one saw EQ coming my god this was/is so so huge!

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

This might be the most awesomest update so far; the new rep functionality, EQ?! HOLY COW. Before I was finding myself blocked a bit from committing to doing finished tracks in the m8, but I think these additions might help in that regard. And control surface for something I already own is cake icing, for real.

[@eridon63]

that's it , im going to say it there is no need to use a DAW with all the features that the M8 have now :D

[@CreeewDeeeTaaay]

AMEN

[@user-hr4my4gl7i]

#11 lemon slices by rum raisin, absolutely killer. I’d buy it.

[@steletext]

F.... that Track #22 by GRAZ is really... MASSIVE 👑

[@HisMadness_]

Amazing yet again Timothy

[@mb2776]

So glad I snatched the limited edition! such a great device!

[@oregono]

cant wait to be able to get one (preorders are full :\)

[@sonicforest521]

Great update! Thank you so much for your constant effort to improve this marvel. I am so excited about the new control surface function. I have seen many people using OMX 27 controller. What midi controllers do you recommend the most?

[@mikamulperi]

Hello M8 people 👋

[@user-gq2vw8ef6o]

Haha it’s time to watch it third time 😅😅

[@brianallossery4628]

Very cool unit

[@MrMarcLaflamme]

Can the RTO command be placed to the right of the REP command instead of after?

[@cjlewis79]

making it work with oxi one as a control surface would be dope!

[@deepseadiver8191]

When will it be back in stock? Can someone tell me?

[@raysubject]

it would be great to implement also ability to use vertical rows of buttons on Lauchnchpad pro as CC controllers - for controlling various parameters of M8 .. you know.. imaen slide from bottom to up in column of buttons will basically behave like tweak parameter from zero to max, sending CC values from 0 to 127

[@AlexandreBique]

Oh, I want one 🙂

[@linuxbender]

EQ.. nice. Can it be controlled with midi e.q control surface support? Thx

[@mikey303]

Yes

[@crimsonfancy]

#34 gets a + from me. /cheers 🍻👍🏻

[@tacticalgrooveorbit2379]

is the firmware available on the website too?

[@megafang]

I don't see it anywhere. Confusing as this was called a "release" party. Why it wasn't released I'm champing

[@TheDjFac]

Discord

[@megafang]

@@TheDjFac discord is a huge place and I can't find it as usual. Hint? Edit: nm found it

[@TheDjFac]

@@megafang check the first line of the video description

[@tacticalgrooveorbit2379]

@@TheDjFac yep but one you are on the discord M8 (i was already member) where can i find the 4.0 version? you found it?

[@slakk5093]

You would be an absolute BEAST if you added a drum sample layering instrument. Think of S-LAYER by Twisted Tools or the drum layering function in Akai MPC's

[@ByteSizedSociety]

Here is a summary, I ran the transcript through chatgpt: Play Button Behavior Change: Simplified play/stop functionality. Instrument Pool Screen: Easier navigation and management of instruments, with auto-sorting and previewing capabilities. Auto Sort File Browser: Automatic sorting of files in smaller directories. Preload Samples on Song Cue Load: Reduced lag when switching songs with many samples. Trig Envelope Fast Forward: Improved accuracy for trig envelopes. Pitch Mod Destination Amount: Finer control over pitch modulation. ADSR Small Value Scaling: More precise control over quick envelopes. Drunk LFO Shape: Improved randomness for the "drunk" LFO shape. Delay Send Effects: Mono-summed input for delay sends. Effects List Redesign: Clearer separation between instrument effects and mods. New Command Effects: Including ARP tick speed (Art), instrument switch (I), global groove (GGR), and DJ filter controls (DJC). Repeat to (RTO) Command: Allows stopping the REP command at a specific value. Table Tick FE Mode: Note mapping in tables for additional manipulation. Scales Tuning: Adjustments for microtonal scales and different tuning standards. Post Filter Limit Modes: Added new distortion options (Post A, R1, and R2). R2 Mode Functionality: It appears to fold once and then go to the edge of the upper or lower boundary. Sample Demonstration: A demonstration of samples, suggesting the use of a loop to show their flavor. New Filters: Two new filters introduced - ZDF LP (Zero Delay Feedback Low Pass) and ZDF HP (High Pass). They have a different sound characteristic and resonance behavior. Wave Synth Update: Renamed U Mirror to Scan and replaced the overflow oscillator shape with over 60 wave tables, each containing 64 different waveforms. The Scan parameter sweeps through these waveforms. New MIDI Settings: The MIDI settings screen has been updated to include a Control Surface option, currently supporting the Launchpad Pro. This allows for Ableton-style grid triggering, muting, soloing, and other live performance features. Song EQ: A three-band equalizer configurable for different types like low shelf, notch, high shelf, etc., is added. Effect Settings: Chorus, delay, and reverb effects now have their own equalizers. Instrument EQ: Each instrument can have its own EQ with 32 slots available. These EQs can be assigned and adjusted in real-time, but fast switching may cause clicking. Control Surface Enhancements: Improved support for control surfaces, specifically the Launchpad Pro, allowing for more interactive live performance control. Various Improvements and Fixes: There are minor improvements like the ability to auto-sort instruments, edit instruments directly from the phrase screen, and create new instruments from the instrument pool. Instrument Pool Access: Users can access the instrument pool from the project screen and audition instruments by pressing start when the sequence isn't playing. Tuning to Scales: The tuning offset is based on A440, meaning changes are relative to the A440 standard pitch. ADSR and AHD Envelopes: The quick envelope feature applies to ADSR envelopes, which are time-based, but not to AHD, which is tick-based. Wave Table Manipulation: Users can hold a specific part of the wave table using rep or LFO frequency adjustment. Launchpad Pro Compatibility: The only launchpad with MIDI TRS support is the Launchpad Pro Mark III. EQ and Limiter: The song EQ is rendered in software, pre-limiter. Users can MIDI map EQ parameters, though it might result in non-smooth transitions due to lack of interpolation. Rep Command Behavior: The rep command stops when a specific value is reached in a future step. Parameter Changes: The recent changes primarily apply to pitch mappings, providing more granular adjustments. Effect Commands for EQ: There are no direct effect commands for controlling EQ, but internal MIDI mapping can be used as a workaround. CPU Impact of EQ: Adding multiple EQs increases CPU usage slightly (by about 2-3%). Song Playback Behavior: The new play button behavior doesn't affect project previewing, and there's a limit of 32 total EQ banks. Future Shows and Performances: Upcoming events include performances in Seattle on August 23rd and a meet and greet on August 24th, as well as a show in Shibuya, Japan on September 7th. Following these clarifications, the session moved to showcasing user-submitted bundles, with a special note that the new alpha firmware will be used for these demonstrations. The session concluded with a reminder to report any issues encountered during the bundle playback.