M808 "Scorpion" Main Battle Tank | Halo

[@TemplinInstitute]

The Templin Institute will be diving into the Halo Infinite Campaign tonight at 6pm MST over at www.twitch.tv/templininstitute. See you there!

[@Kaiser_von_Europa]

Do code Geass anime about the holy britannian empire, pls

[@TemplinInstitute]

@@Kaiser_von_Europa whenever someone requests a video in a reply to something unrelated, we add another week before we consider it.

[@zetoboogaloo8802]

Have you guys thought about going into the lore of your stellaris invicta tank? if you have the lore for it that is.

[@LordEmperorHyperion]

You should follow up with the Grizzly tank in Halo. Wars 2 which is obviously superior to the Scorpion in every way, Halo wars is part of Halo in the first place.

[@johnwillsea6600]

I knew it wasn't a coincidence that this was dropped the same day as the infinite campaign! Thanks for the video and have a wonderful day.

[@murielcunningham8703]

"When I joined the corps, we didn't have any fancy-schmancy tanks! We had sticks! Two sticks and a rock for the whole platoon! And we had to share the rock! Buck up boy! You're one very lucky marine!"

[@SulliMike23]

“What about that Scarab?”

[@murielcunningham8703]

@@SulliMike23 "We've all run the simulations. They're tough but they ain't invincible. Stay with the Master Chief. He'll know what to do."

[@KarlB591]

"Usually the good Lord works in mysterious ways. But not today! This here is sixty-six tons of straight up, H-E-spewing dee-vine intervention! If God is love, then you can call me Cupid!"

[@TheArklyte]

You know, with how bad Scorpion is, I'm inclined to take his words literary as it being the first AFV UNSC has designed and that they had no motorized vehicles 3 decades prior... in fact it would make TOO MUCH sense if Halo is actually a post apocalyptic setting and the time(and all technology) between 2030 and 2490 was just lost to dozens of nuclear wars.

[@aaroncabello8221]

You gave up your chance to be scared when you joined my beloved Corp, but to guide you back to the true path, I brought this motivational device! Our big green style CANNOT be defeated!

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

In the words of Sgt. Johnson, "66 tons of HE-spewin' divine intervention!"

[@averyharley2197]

"So if God is love, you can call me cupid!"

[@marimcgee8379]

Tank beats Ghosts! Tank beats Hunter! Tank beats everything! Hey I can do this all day!

[@exren9830]

Plasma grenade

[@georgelabe-assimo4365]

Tank is hero!

[@seekingabsolution1907]

Missile pod.

[@LordEmperorHyperion]

Grizzly Tank is the real hero, Grizzly tank has double barrel cannons and stronger than Scorpion tank.

[@klortikterra4423]

correction it's 'man I can do this all day'

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

"The distinctive stern mounted rising turret from which the Scorpion's name derived..." It was this moment where, despite having played every main Halo game, I found out why the M808 is called the "Scorpion".

[@Tank50us]

And it's got one hell of a sting

[@ISAFSoldier]

@@Tank50us 90mm of high velocity tungsten

[@seekingabsolution1907]

Yeah, took me a while to figure out how it looked like a scorpion, it's the whole Puma situation all over again.

[@AlexSDU]

@@seekingabsolution1907 Puma? Do you mean the Warthog?

[@SkitariusNoKD]

after over 10 years of playing halo I never realise that.

[@tigerstorm6622]

Additionally, the tank comes with an AI feature that may or may not have a tendency to kill teammates and learn to love robots. This AI has since been discontinued after well… the afteromore mentioned team killing incident.

[@WolfeSaber]

Maybe it would be best to not name the AI in a tank.

[@gabrielnedland7406]

@@WolfeSaber that was not the AI's fault it was a member of the team the tank belonged to order it to disable the friendly fire protocols that ended up causing his own death.

[@weirdofromhalo]

Sheila!

[@TheRealDarthias]

It should be noted that while there are only 4 cardinal directions, the Scorpion Tank is equipped with six foot-pedals.

[@WolfeSaber]

@@TheRealDarthias And the Elephant has four paddles for six directions.

[@lukesweeney4467]

Let's be real. Templin WOULD do a feature on the Scorpion Tank. It's a tank after all..

[@TemplinInstitute]

reject flesh embrace the tank

[@panzershanzer2695]

@@TemplinInstitute yes I accept this

[@EmonWBKstudios]

2108 - tank beats everything! 2561 - tank STILL beats everything!

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

Planes: ya hear sumin?

[@TheTeddyIsALiar]

Scorpion doesn't fit well into the modern MBT role, but if viewed as an infantry tank, its design is exceptional. It's just fast enough to lead ground advances with the infantry, well armed enough to create breakthroughs, and its operational mobility is enough that it can be wherever it needs to be.

[@yoloman3607]

It also has no protection from grav hammer and plasma grenade attacks, a real problem against brute hordes.

[@palladin1337]

I mean, if we're talking about tanks engaging from prepared positions (dug-out holes or other forms of fixed cover), then it still has an advantage over other tank designs. The fact that its gun is so far above the main body means that it can fight from a position where the only part of it that's visible is the gun itself. I recommend Installation 00's video on the Scorpion, because he crunched the numbers on this tank and concluded that, among other things, its gun is actually really, really powerful.

[@downrangecash2418]

The issue the scorpion has is with design. It has a massive profile, is vastly underpowered for its size, has those 4 treads, and has way too many shot traps. It's too damn big- and heavy- to conceivably fit into an anti-infantry role. And as a MBT it has way too many issues to not get slaughtered when pitted against far more sensible designs like a modern Abrams. I love the Scorpion. It's cool. But it isn't a good tank.

[@steadyjumper3547]

It’s just a shame it’s so damn wide

[@jedispartancoolman]

@@palladin1337 spookston would like a word with you

[@corvididaecorax2991]

The VTOL combat air drop capability is one that is often overlooked when comparing the scorpion to other military vehicles. It is a vital thing for a space based force to have, and allows for strikes behind enemy lines to have armor support. That more than makes up for its comparatively light armor and weaponry.

[@TheArklyte]

1)Mi-12 can carry T-64. Scorpion is still 20 tons over many MBTs with superior characteristics. 2)you're literary using brilliance of Pelican as an excuse to praise Scorpion. Why not praise Scorpion for MAC guns and Spartan program then?:))

[@tonberryking42]

@@TheArklyte MACs are heavy. Hilariously heavy, such that they don't fucking move without starship levels of thrust - which is why they're on star ships and orbital platforms. Also, tanks are cheaper and faster to make than even the very *ablatively* designed Spartan III program. In the time it takes to run a batch of Spartan IIIs from acquisition of *teenagers* to the final suicide teams, you're looking at at least 2 to 4 years. For the same price, you can have more of these tanks than you have places on star ships to put them in after only 6 months. And also, they're more likely to survive their first mission. And also keep in mind, part of what made the Spartan III program cheap is they brought in orphans and then sent them on missions that, while they succeeded almost categorically died while pulling off - which means ONI didn't have to explain why they were paying wages/pensions to more than the TINY handful that did survive (I'm talking like, 2 or 3 individuals surviving 3 production runs of several hundred each). And their armour and super soldier procedure was still really pricy. And in terms of cost, a single Spartan II might cost the same in dollars as this tank, but that's only looking at the individual, their treatment, and their equipment. It does not factor in the man hours or training, and the *10 to 13 years* it takes to get from *literal fucking abduction at 7 to 9 years old* to super soldier.

[@TheArklyte]

@@tonberryking42 wow, the level of uselessness of that comment. Can't stick to a topic, dear? Have I suggested putting MAC on a tank? No? Then what's the point of offtopic lore dump, preacher? You literary cited halopedia without providing ANY argument or adding anything to the discussion of Scorpion tank. Goodness gracious... you know, Halo does have a reddit. There you may find people who'd quote unrelated halopedia articles back at you and you'd both find happiness.

[@phelanwolf6747]

@@tonberryking42 lol the Scorpions main flaw is clearly the high profile compared to real tanks. And when it comes to Spartans vs Scorpions, was the main character of Halo a Spartan or a Scorpion tank crew? Also in the war with the covenant what brought an end to the war? Spartans or Scorpions? It is also true for real life conflicts, special troops that can penetrate into the heart of the enemy leadership and take them out is the important force that can put an end to wars. This is especially true when fighting against heavily centralised forms of governments such as monarchies, dictatorships, ...

[@TheArklyte]

@@phelanwolf6747 thanks for helping him turn this thread into another Spartan fapfest. Now he'll reply back with another article...

[@TheLoraxshadenough]

Plot twist the machine gun is a browning M2 with some futuristic bullshit. The scorpion would be the longest running tank design with the longest running heavy machine gun in Halo.

[@Renewablefrog1224]

Unto the future of every sci-fi, John Browning's genius has only aged like fine wine

[@quinn8599]

I'd accept this

[@Robert-cl2ft]

And the magnum is just an advanced 1911 pistol

[@keirangray902]

"Thank you for activating the M808 main battle tank. You may call me Sheila. Would you like me to run the tutorial?"

[@seekingabsolution1907]

"Why are there 6 pedals when there are only 4 directions"

[@4178Charlie]

Sheila fire the main cannon

[@Heisen2420]

"You may call me Sheila." Sheila the Tank from red vs blue.

[@kilotun8316]

"Firing main cannon."

[@shoootme]

Hallo Sheila, nice tank lady.

[@quicke5486]

Canister rounds? Rest in peace grunt squads, must've fucking looked like pink mist when they used that round.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Underneath the turret of the Scorpion, there is a Jack-O-Lantern drawn in blood. This can be found by destroying the turret, then standing on the upside-down turret.

[@RED-sl2le]

In what game?

[@DylanoRevs]

If the Halo tank had quotes: "Scorpion, ready to sting!" "Main tank of the UNSC." "No one stands in our way."

[@UGNAvalon]

*Scorpion selected:* “Tank beats everything!” *Attack order given:* “Tank beats everything!” *Enemy defeated:* “Tank beats everything!” *Scorpion destroyed:* “Tank beats- *_BOOM_* “

[@khaosproductio]

ah a fellow C&C generals player

[@SuperGman117]

Damn if only there was a Halo RTS that features the Scorpion- oh wait, there are two of those

[@AzureScintillae]

Firing Main Cannon

[@cr90captain89]

you forgot this one: " scorpion, ready to unleash 90mm of hell"

[@tacticalmarsupial6201]

“Tank beats ghost. Tank beats hunter. Tank beats everything. Oh man I could do this all day”

[@Starfleet8555]

It even beats Wraths and Banshees

[@UbinTimor]

Bungie did so many shorts that revolved around the infantry of the Halo universe but never showed love to tank combat. It would have been very cool if we got the perspective of a Scorpion tank crew in the same style as Fury in a short vid for the game.

[@g.williams2047]

As a person who is an avid tank fan, the technical aspects of the design hurt my soul. However, it looks amazing so I can give it a pass.

[@jedispartancoolman]

Spookston agrees

[@tagg218]

Spookston is also a narrowminded hack that thinks the wraith would benefit somehow from treads instead of it's hover drives, as if the fact it would be hard for us to manufacture and operate matters to a galactic empire that's been developing and using this kind of tech for centuries if not millennia.

[@zekramnordran9526]

@@tagg218 the virgin realism nitpicker vs The Chad Rule of Cool Enjoyer

[@Ally5141]

@@federationprime There is a reason why modern MBTs are designed the way they are. Scorpion is overally a garbage design with only a couple redeeming qualities.

[@DefaultProphet]

@@federationprime if it looks substantially different than an evolution of a modern MBT it better have a damn good reason.

[@JunkPhuJP]

“Why are there 6 pedals if there are only four directions?” “Caboose! Get in that tank and give us cover fire!” “Okay!” “And DON’T shoot me this time!” “Okay!” *kabam!* “Son of a b****!!!”

[@PolymurExcel]

"What was the first part again?"

[@keirangray902]

"You killed Church you team killing fucktard"

[@Taneth]

"Firing main cannon"

[@ISAF_Ace]

don't forget the unique ability of some variants to travel up vertical cliffs

[@CMTechnica]

The chasis also saw use as a platform mounting other weaponry. Surface to Air missile pods saw the tank get the designation of the Tarantula, but the lack of point defense between missile barrages saw the variant reverted back to the main gun later in the war Still a better AA platform than the Rockethog tho

[@quinn8599]

Fuck the rocket hog. That thing is arguably worse design then the regular warthog cause of ammo problems. You could get 1 full Salvo from that thing maybe 2 if you get risky and plant some more rockets in the damn truck

[@ForgottenHonor0]

Ah, yes! Ours and Sergeant Johnson's favorite "motivational device!"

[@SuperThest]

You have to hand it to the Scorpion.: It's one of the best looking and worst designed tanks in sci-fi.

[@ThatGuy-a48]

The walkers from star wars is also up there

[@AlexSDU]

@@ThatGuy-a48 In term of walkers, the AT-TE is the best design. Even better than AT-AT.

[@Pyreleaf]

Sad, but fair.

[@jjhester6586]

@@AlexSDU Pretty much anything is better than the AT AT. That thing was purely for intimidation only, no practical application in an actual war.

[@AlexSDU]

​@@jjhester6586 I felt more intimidated and awe by AT-TE design. Especially with that big gun on it's back. The only thing that I'm gonna gripe about it is that it's a open seat for the gunner.

[@izumishion6267]

As an armored enthusiast, the biggest issue I will always have with the Scorpion's design, is the single operator. Sure it reduces crew casualties if destroyed, but the there is only one person doing all the jobs of a tank. Ideally Three people should operate a tank: Commander/spotter, Gunner, and Driver. Allocating all these jobs to one person, even today, would be extremely overwhelming. Dodging incoming fire, trying to spot enemy positions and then firing on the enemy, in a real battle, would over load the one operator.

[@rougenarwhal8378]

In the game manual for halo 2 it reads crew capacity as two humans or 1 cyborg, considering how badass Spartans are in the lore I can believe it

[@chris0000924]

Modern Russian tanks are fully computerized so I *think* it's possible

[@Wafflemarine22]

I get where you going with this since we would not have 3rd person perspective in real life. If the scorpion really was used in reality i think it would fit more into a mobile weapons platform then MBT.

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

Hell, even in Halo, imagine how useful it would be if you had someone pointing out targets with a designator, popping smoke when people target you, and coordinating with other elements while the player drove and shot. Like, you would actually have someone telling the Marines where to go instead of just blindly hoping a Grunt with a rocket launcher doesn't pop out of a building and explode you.

[@izumishion6267]

@@chris0000924 If your talking about the T-14 Armata, it is not fully computerized. The turret is unmanned but it still needs a crew of 3.

[@Remus-z6y]

My favorite sci-fi tank ever! Fell in love with it when I first saw it in Halo:CE. When you finally got your hands on it, during the assault on the control room level, you felt unbeatable. It was like a glorious moment of revenge, being able to just stomp over the covies after everything they put you through.

[@TheDemigans]

The Scorpion is named an MBT but as a scout tank or Infantry Fighting Vehicle it would fit the bill far better. Its design, its operational range, its weapon placement and its capabilities fit that role. It also makes a lot more sense to strap a scout tank to a Pelican and drop it in the middle of a half-developed world with limited infrastructure and no large maintenance potential than it is to drop a full MBT.

[@hanzzel6086]

Keep in mind MBT stands for Main Battle Tank and simply refers to, well, the main tank of a military, it is not an indication of a vehcles capabilities. As I understand it the Scorpion was designated as a light tank during it's design phase. And it was meant for rapid deployment from naval vessels and engaging in asymmetric/urban/mountainous warfare (hence the extreme elevation/depression angles of the main gun), with heavier tanks forming the actual backbone (Aka the MBT) of the UNSC. But since those where the 2 primary activities the UNSC was performing (and nobody saw that changing) pre-Covenant war and it did them very well while being very cheap, it saw wide spread adoption. Over time the other, heavier tanks in service where phased out with out any dedicated replacements, thus it became the UNSC's MBT. And during the Human-Covenant war humanity didn't have the resources/time to switch production to more resource intense medium/heavy tanks. Especially when the Scorpion was doing so well.

[@TheDemigans]

@@hanzzel6086 its a weird tank. Its a whopping 66 tons despite its small profile and titanium-ceramic armor. The Grizzly is just 5.5 tons heavier despite its significantly longer and higher frame&turret and an extra gun (2x120mm instead of 1x90mm), and also called an MBT despite its much higher firepower. Even the wheeled materièl vehicle (Cobra) is called an MBT, despite being closer to a Centauro wheeled tank destroyer.

[@hanzzel6086]

@@TheDemigans Yeah, the developers of Halo did no research what so ever regarding military doctrine or equipment.

[@Deepingmind]

Their research was fine, its just that the research was based on small unit operations rather than large scale strategic warfare. This isn't the MBT of a thousand armored divisions crashing over a world. Its the MBT of a platoon if someone said "you know what, drop platoon should have the firepower of an armored element for when they are fighting on random little dots across the galaxy and sometimes need something that hits harder than any boot on the ground could." They are cheap relatively speaking, easy to use, easy to produce and highly effective in their given role. Plus the UNSC hands them out like candy. So what you get is the option that EVERY single platoon of infantry can be supported by a squadron of Tanks which is extremely valuable when your missions are often based around squad and platoon level engagements.

[@TheDemigans]

@@Deepingmind if it were as well designes like you said it would have been designated as an actual light/scout tank and wouldnt have been a whopping 66 tons. Even its much bigger and more powerful brother the Grizzly, which does sport the more conventional MBT design and two 1.5x bigger caliber guns is a mere 5.5 tons heavier. Like many other design aspects in Halo the size and weights are off. Only in this case they are overstated instead of understated. The UNSC ships for example are almost universally smaller than their design would allow. In this case the weight and vehicle type of the Scorpion are wrongly stated. A simple change from "MBT" to "light/scout tank" and a change in weight to the 30 to 40 ton range would already settle this since the tank technically has the shape, design and usage of a light/scout tank. And in sci-fi stories I absolutely love the idea of using a smaller, lighter tank or tank destroyer on landing parties instead of the oversized, overweight nightmare vehicles often dropped by far too small vehicles in most sci-fi.

[@TihetrisWeathersby]

Best looking Tank I've ever seen, The UNSC's best Engineers must have put in overtime to come up with it

[@nekdo_kavc]

It is some of the worst design i have seen for a tank.

[@rwagingsloth9528]

@@nekdo_kavc the main issue i think with the design is the placement of the turret and crew compartment. having the crew compartment in front makes them especially at risk of death if the tank is taken out. other than that i don't really know enough about tanks to criticize it further. would you care to elaborate please

[@weirdofromhalo]

@@rwagingsloth9528 What's wrong with a rear mounted turret?

[@rwagingsloth9528]

@@weirdofromhalo its not neccesarily a bad thing, it just leaves the crew more vulnerable in the event the tank is taken out of action. with the crew in the front any hit to the tank is likely to kill them as well, and its far easier to replace a tank, than it is to replace well trained soldiers. other than that, I don't actually know enough about tanks to criticize it further.

[@Servo_M]

@@rwagingsloth9528 Spookston has a video about it called: (Everything wrong with Halo's Scorpion tank)

[@RandomlyRandomGaming]

The M850 Grizzly is GOATED asf too

[@thorshammer7883]

As much as I like the Scorpion Tank I like the Tank design style of the Abrams better. Had the Scorpion tank been designed more thoroughly to last in combat and better tank rounds then 90mm while retaining a fast autoloader I think the Scorpion tank could have been far more effective and sustained less losses in the Human-Covenant war. Even a railgun could have been useful. Edit: By the way Spookston's video about the Scorpion Tank's designs flaws were pretty well made. I like his suggestion for a explosive anti tank round instead of armor pricing high explosive.

[@Tank50us]

The funny thing is, as shown by modern tanks, shell size is almost irrelevant when it comes to defeating enemy armor. Sure, it *helps*, but in reality, any shot that actually penetrates even a modern tank has the potential to cause a lot of internal devastation. If you don't believe me, just think of it this way: All modern tanks have some hull storage for the ammunition. If a shot penetrates, and goes off inside one of those ammo racks, it won't matter if that was a 20mm AA shell that got really lucky, or a 203mm howitzer shell, the tank will go up, and the crew will get cooked. By having the crew in the most protected part of the tank, and having the ammunition and feed mechanism in the turret with the gun, you eliminate that risk to the crew. And since it uses Hydrogen Fuel Cells, you don't really need to worry about fuel fires either (since the cells contain water). And with a -30 to +60 degree gun elevation, you have a lot of room to fight the tank in a hull down position. Overall, it's a very, very dependable, and survivable design, minus the treat layout, but that's not really a major concern of mine.

[@dainguyen2733]

fun fact: despite it being armed with a ninty milimeter cannon, it actually packs more punch than modern day tanks due the high velocity of the shell for more info, go to installation00 and find "most detailed breakdown" scorpion tank

[@TheFamine123]

@@Tank50us what's wild is how much luck actually plays into armor. My buddy was in Desert Storm, and one of his guys took out a T-72B with a Mk.19 40mm grenade launcher. Nobody knows how that happened, but it managed to cook the ammo and blow the turret off.

[@elongated_musket6353]

@@TheFamine123 The T72B got Gaijined, simple as. In all seriousness, it could be the overpressure from the 40mm HE that caused spalling of lightly armored surfaces(like the turret roof), and that red-hot spall set off the ammunition. But I doubt that amount of explosives would be enough to send shrapnel flying at Mach 3. Also, why did that guy think he could take out a T72B with a 40mm? He did, but why?

[@SuperThest]

​@@dainguyen2733 The problem though is that he's completely wrong. He's using in-game physics for one thing, but he's also assuming the projectile is a solid 20 cm long tungsten slug and saying that if it were a sabot it would be faster, but it IS a Sabot. That's the only type of ammunition you can realistically use is smooth bore gun. Even if you assumed the projectile was a solid slug it still only has 1/5th the kinetic energy of a modern M1. In reality, if you use in game velocities, the tank would just be firing a smaller round at a fraction of the speed of modern tank guns. Using Tungsten also hurts the gun too, because at that velocity, uranium would have better time going through armor.

[@daverage4729]

Every time you got to ride one of these in Halo was an absolute treat cause you knew you were going to cream absolutely 'anything' that got in your way! I especially loved the double-barrelled 'Grizzly' variant in Halo Wars. Whenever time I got a few of those blowing the hell out of the Covenant, I'd cackle like a lunatic! :)

[@warlord8525]

The only complaint I have about the scorpion is its very lack luster cannon of 90 mm when it should be a 120 or 140 mm cannon

[@johanalitalo8331]

" tank beats ghost!" / "tanks beat hunter!!" / "Tank beats everything!!!" Ahh the good old reliable, and I doubt it's not going to change anytime soon.

[@Nightshade_Daylight]

“So to turn you back onto the right path, I brought you this motivational device.” -Sgt. Johnson.

[@dkkanofkash8798]

Templin is killing it with these videos!

[@arconisthewolf4430]

it's not just a tank,it's our hard working friend whos been with us in all halo games.

[@loganmartin2794]

We need to have Sergeant Forge's little project come next. (I.E. The Grizzly)

[@JamesGibson-of7dh]

When you see the scorpion tank you feel unstoppable when driving it

[@KurstKensei]

Hope you guys cover the Hornet sometime, it's my fav UNSC air vehicle.

[@owenparris7490]

Tank beats Ghost...

[@mistertestsubject]

Tank beats Hunter...

[@murielcunningham8703]

Tank beats everything!

[@neilcrombie4100]

"thanks for the tank he never gets me anything"

[@WabbitCrouton]

Great firepower, very bad to steer on PC version if every other game has WASD for movement. But here one uses the mouse for turret and steering controls.

[@joshuachase9742]

It made me happy that you included the "Tank beats everything!" quote.

[@jinsai8064]

I already knew this, but damn the m808 would stomp the m1 abrams in every way. Though probably it's biggest advantage would be the neural interface that allows for a crew of 1 rather than a crew of 4

[@nobleman9393]

Those 90mm APCBCs rounds would definitely destroy an Abrams

[@scavulous6336]

This is sarcasm right? Right!

[@gungde9419]

This has to be sarcasm lmao

[@jjhester6586]

Haha, nice joke.

[@MrCashoos]

@@nobleman9393 having a high velocity round is more important than the size of the round itself. The Scorpion not only fires high velocity rounds with a speed unheard for present day thanks but it also has a smoothbore barrel that helps it even more.

[@FrostWolfe95]

Top speed is 96.5kph??? Most games the Scorpion feels like you're driving an old Churchill.

[@TemplinInstitute]

the ground has to be perfectly flat. Even a slight grain and the the top speed goes down 80kph.

[@DoctorProph3t]

Gotta get it outta first gear 😂

[@jedispartancoolman]

Someone brought up the theory that since you are playing as a spartan many things that seem slow in game are actually just the result of spartan time( plasma rounds, the spnkr, tank etc)

[@GaldirEonai]

@@jedispartancoolman The problem with that theory is that people talk at normal speed :P.

[@jedispartancoolman]

@GaldirEonai agreed. My head canon is that spartan can filter things such as speech so it doesn't sound slow motion

[@TheJedaiHero9000]

OHH, Hell Fraking Yeah!!!!! One of my MOST ABSO-FRAKING-LUTE favorite vehicles in the Halo series!!!!! This is, MOST TRULY, my MOST ABSOLUTE favorite vid that I have watched SO fraking FAR!!!!!

[@OffworldYT]

Oh I know what the ladies like

[@loopslytle]

Tanks for the memories!

[@weirdofromhalo]

Aw, no talk about the Grizzly variant with dual cannons from Halo Wars?

[@codywright2840]

“How does 90mm in TUNGSTEN strike ya??!!”

[@Walker-mg7fv]

I'm loving the consistency with uploads and another great video

[@zhishangdi3522]

I've got a tank, the guy who has the tank is never outmatched.

[@Wafflemarine22]

More like a mobile infantry weapons platform then a true MBT. So glad the lore for it did back up the gameplay of it. It does beat everything. Would have been cool i the games if you could switch from HE to SABOT rounds. Remove the explosive part but bonus damage to direct hits.

[@Deepingmind]

MBT just means "main battle tank" for the formation using it. So its still a true MBT by definition, its just that it's the MBT of mobile infantry detachments.

[@Lukos0036]

Track pods add a unnecessary degree of complexity while offering no advantages in traction speed or ease of maintenance. They also increase ground pressure compared to conventional tracks meaning it cannot traverse soft ground making it's cross country speed much lower than a conventional tank. It's small crew also leads to high work load and increased user fatigue compared to a tank with dedicated commander,driver,and gunner stations and lowers situational awareness by removing a pair of eyes that could be acquiring targets while the gunner engages others. The fixes are easy. Add a commander station to the body, give it conventional tracks, add a commanders site with a commander override to the turrets position. And perhaps a remote MG turret to suppress infantry with. Then it would be at least akin to a t-72 with actual gun depression. Or one of the early AMX tanks with an oscillating turret.

[@zidniafifamani2378]

Maybe they have that many track pods because the tank is just too big to have reliable common dual pods design?

[@Lukos0036]

@@zidniafifamani2378 Being that large, a standard track arrangement would be easier and more reliable actually. It would also spread the weight of the vehicle out more improving cross country speed which is the entire point of tracks.

[@alexisbaz8746]

@@Lukos0036 maybe is to make the tank more dificult to neutralize, the Scorpion can move fast enought witouth a tread (sorry my english is bad), othee tanks cannot move if they lose one but the Scorpion has five so the other ones can push the tank.

[@Lukos0036]

@@alexisbaz8746 That doesn't work ether. The tank would just drag it's self in a larger circle instead of a small one.

[@br076ett8]

Hello, and thank you for activating the M808V Main Battle Tank. You may call me Sheila.

[@mrdrprof8402]

Thank you for activating the M808V main battle tank. You may call me Sheila.

[@Metalisjustbetter]

Let's be honest, from a realistic point of view the Scorpion is a bad design. But I love it anyway.

[@dbi6355]

It's a bad design for a mbt but for an airlift capable light tank it's pretty good. Plus the two to three man crew is a plus

[@nahx6205]

I think the best practical use of the tank can be it's 4 tracks instead of 2 we use now. I'm not a tank designer but it just looks like it might be a good idea if implemented right

[@raf74hawk12]

@@nahx6205 The issue with having more sets of tracks is that now you need more drive wheels, a more complicated transmission, etc. Doubling up these mechanical parts that will require regular maintenance introduces more parts that could fail and put the vehicle out of action for repairs. The redundancy is a plus, but I'm not sure if you could get the tank back if you get de-tracked on one of the pods. It would still probably be a mobility kill.

[@weirdofromhalo]

@@nahx6205 There's actually a prototype tank with four track pods (I think it's called the concept 1b in world of tanks) but it was too heavy for the four pods to add mobility.

[@GaldirEonai]

@@nahx6205 It was tried and turned out to be a terrible idea. You don't get any real benefit and you pay for it by having way more complexity, and K.I.S.S. is still _the_ single most important principle in military vehicle design.

[@thethievesdomain8360]

Tank beats ghost. Tank beats hunter. Tank beats everything.

[@VeeTOHFan]

The last brute left watching a scorpion covered in marines charge towards him

[@AINGELPROJECT667]

"Hey, how does 90 millimeters of tungsten strike you?" Also I like the implication that the reason they kept the M820 as the "Scorpion" was because they were concerned the UNSC marines wouldn't trust it over the M808 if it had a different name

[@ANDREALEONE95]

The Scorpion is the sum of everything wrong with futuristic tanks - Quad Tread that increase ground pressure for nothing and reduce mobility - Too high profile - Technologically incoherent even for Halo standards - Pilot cockpit too exposed both for its positioning and windshield - Outgunned - No advanced sensors

[@BattleshipOrion]

You think that's wrong? You should see my revived Tiger tanks. Only thing different, there are 2 tracks on 4 pods, which can be mounted with defensive or offensive weapons, or sheilds, or the choice of 2 tracks mounted to the chassis directly.

[@alexisbaz8746]

It has sensors to detect anti tank mines, his shell is smaller but considering it has more firepower than a Gauss Hog the shell is shoot way faster, and don't take gameplay Mechanic as canon, the Scorpion reaches 90km/h, is not slow and is able to tank plasma mortars and fuel rod canons, and plasma small arms, a modern tank can be take down with a Grunt with a plasma pistol...

[@ANDREALEONE95]

@@alexisbaz8746 but for some reason has a normal cannon rather than a railgun.

[@alexisbaz8746]

@@ANDREALEONE95 Railgun Scorpions exist, maybe is a little bit to expensive, and a Rule off cool from Bungie.

[@ANDREALEONE95]

@@alexisbaz8746 If UNSC can afford railguns on Warthog and warship, they can even on Scorpions. The Scorpion has the same paradox of Spartan energy shield.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, a covenant vs UNSC naval battle.

[@Leg3nd-27]

I think the scorpion only having one crew member, the driver, is a major flaw. Normal people would be overwhelmed driving it, I feel like only a Spartan would be able to use it effectively.

[@wiryantirta]

“Our big green style CANNOT BE DEFEATED” - Sgt. Major Avery Jr Johnson.

[@jackj9816]

I love in infainte the banished seem scared of them if you surprise them in a scorpion they sometimes scream “ his got a scorpion” which reminds me of the allies being like “ TIGER!!”

[@JustGem87]

I cant help but feel that the Scorpion tanks appearance is based on its name as opposed to actually having been developed to meet a specific battle field role or the iterative evolution of a talk to this form. It suffers from Mammoth tank disorder. “lets give it 4 tracks because its scifi and cool!” when in actuality all they have done is make one tank have the maintenance requirements of two. Looking at the type of conflict the UNFC are fighting I cant help but feel that something thats not a tank would have been far more useful. They are hopelessly out numbered and outmatched. Something fast, hard to spot and packs a punch would be far better. Something not to dissimilar to the American Tank destroyer doctrine of WW2 So that they could hit there enemy from a concealed position, hopefully kill it and then disengage before they can retaliate in any meaningful way. I feel like in a conflict against such an advanced opponent with numerical superiority one of they only viable options is to avoid engaging them in a pitched battle. Pleas dot murder me for the spelling and grammatical errors. I'm dyslexic, did my best to spell check it but something inevitably got through. Videos on point once again. Keep it coming I love this stuff.

[@CMTechnica]

Tank destroyers? Gausshog. Just say gausshog. A better tank anyway

[@nicholaswalsh4462]

As iconic as the Scorpion is, it is a poorly designed main battle tank that wouldn't stand much chance against T-72s, let alone Covenant armor. The four independent tracks are the most apparent issue, when looking at the vehicle. Each track is equipped with their own hinges, drive sprockets, return rollers, bogies, and drive train segment, increase the maintenance requirements, increase the mechanical complexity, and decreases the overall reliability of the drivetrain. This was actually an experiment by the US Army in the 1950s and it was abandoned because it was inferior to conventional track designs. It has not been revisited by any military to my knowledge and, if it has, it has most likely also been abandoned due to its inherent problems. The 90mm cannon is also underpowered as an anti-armor weapon. 90mm guns were phased out of US and NATO service in the late 1950s and early 1960s to make way for the 105mm and later 120mm guns, which boasted higher muzzle velocities, greater ranges, and more effectiveness against composite armors. The Soviet equivalent, the 100mm, was phased out around the same time for the 115mm and then the 125mm, for much the same reason. Given the fact that we see no indication that ETC technology is employed by the UNSC, nor any indication that the propellant is significantly improved from modern propellants, it would indicate that the 90mm gun is on par with the 90mm gun mounted on the M48 Pattons of 1958. The third significant concern is the exposed forward MG position. For a military that has sophisticated AI and drone technology, the fact they don't have a remote weapon station in that position, instead opting for an open ring mount with no cover for the operator, indicates a significant lack of awareness, especially when one considers that the primary role of the UNSC prior to the Human-Covenant War was Counter Insurgency Operations against the Insurrectionists. Against a foe that primarily employs ambush tactics and assymetrical warfare strategies, having the machine gunner so exposed makes manning that position suicide (as anyone who has tried to man that position in game certainly knows. The fourth major concern is the crew ergonomics. The Scorpion has space for exactly 1 crewmember, with a second able to take the aforementioned machine gun position. The second crewmember, however, has no ability to assist in the operation of the tank itself, meaning a single individual is responsible for driving the tank, laying and firing the gun, AND spotting targets. That single individual is more overworked than any other tanker in human history. Indeed, the crew ergonomics alone make the Scorpion one of the worst tanks in any alternate universe I have yet explored. The worst in terms of division of labor we ever got in the past was a series of two-man designs, which incorporated a driver, and a gunner/loader/commander. Later designs would have the Driver, gunner, and loader/commander. Most of those designs were 1920s and 1930s French designs, though the US, UK, Germany, Russia, and Japan had a couple of their own. Universally, the tanks that followed those concepts were inferior to virtually any other tank, due to the fact that the commander (who's role is to command the tank and spot targets) was too busy either loading the gun or firing the gun to command the tank or spot targets, leading to tanks with 2 or 3 man crews becoming isolated and destroyed by hostile infantry or tanks they never saw. Some modern tanks, particularly those of Soviet origin, do incorporate three man crews. But they do so by replacing the loader with an autoloader, leaving the commander free to command the tank and spot targets, the gunner free to shoot targets designated by the commander, and the driver free to drive. In the Scorpion, one singular person is expected to drive the tank, spot targets, lay the gun on said targets, and engage said targets simultaneously. While it may work in a video game, it most certainly does not in real life and no amount of AI support can alleviate that.

[@ANDREALEONE95]

The gun would make sense with such calibre if it was a railgun.

[@ThatGuy-a48]

@@ANDREALEONE95 cool it's not ( railguns in Halo act and look nothing like the 90mm on the scorpion)

[@rddrpar8349]

Also it tall and the cannon can be seen a mile away the smaller you are with out loss the Comfort the crew the better

[@BruceWayne-ke8nm]

It's strange how our modern tanks can compete and are possibly better than scorpion tanks in halo

[@ShaDO118k]

When you have access to the M808 main battle tank, aka the Scorpion. Except no substitute.

[@angry_eck]

and for refueling you dont even need a resupply if you have a warthog you cna take from its replenishing fuel supply

[@fazelight9835]

Amazing video as always

[@robertagu5533]

So basically in order to turn the tables WITHOUT the Halo series as we saw it happening we woulda had to make a number of Space an atmospheric craft that was pretty much their versions of THIS tank.. since the ODSTs, some various other infantry types and Spartans pretty much helped have the infantry portion covered

[@mikejo8194]

feel like the scorpion has gained the trust from its footmen like the A-10 in real life

[@jonbaxter2254]

Always so much fun with these bad boys

[@juless27]

the templin institute is poppin off

[@TricksterPoi]

Scorpion ready to sting- oh wait wrong game. But the Covenant really got sting.

[@thomashsiai6250]

A video a day STREAK: 3 Quality: Epic

[@Abrxas01]

Honestly this thing is more like the armor dropped with early airborn units, though much heavier

[@circeciernova1712]

It's called the 808 because you'll *feel* that bass

[@thomasboland540]

Reasons why the Scorpion is a bad tank: #1. It's tall as fuck, but can't depress its gun. This makes concealing the hull and firing from an elevated position impossible. #2. 66 tons, but only able to go about 20mph. Most MBTs today are comparable in weight but far outpace it in terms of speef and maneuverability. #3. Only 90mm for its main gun. 90mm anti tank guns were phased out of service shortly after ww2 for a reason. Not to mention that the Scorpion is restricted to HEAT. #4 small crew = more stress.

[@brandonchapman4532]

Everyone: it's the M808 Main Battle Tank Me: ... *Sheila*

[@spencerharding1977]

I heard it can beat ghosts, hunters, AND phantoms. It can do it all day.

[@DABViktor]

Thank you the English subtitle.

[@mho...]

*tank you,you mean^^

[@Armoredunit]

"This tank beats everything" The flood:"Ok sir it's time for your bed time"

[@Sparking_Ram]

Little disappointed you didn't cover the experimental variant designed by Sargent Forge, the twin barreled M850 Grizzly.

[@FelixUmbra]

Realistically, It's an AWEFUL design. For general combat. Way too tall. 4 tracks are weaker than 2. BUT. It does look like it would perform SUPERBLY in trench warfare. Dig a pit for it to set in and a slight elevated section for it to drive up to the firing line. Then back down into its pit.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Thanks for the tank he never gets me anything. Oh I know what the ladies like!

[@thegreatid3595]

So basically Space M1 Abrams.

[@shadowdoom8063]

You should do the spirit of fire as the next UNSC entry for arsenal

[@icykiwi6650]

Many people harshly criticize the design of the scorpion tank. Many of the criticisms are valid and reasonable, but they all overlook one thing. The scorpion tank just looks fucking awesome

[@FrostyCh13f]

Just made me miss Sheila again **Sad Tank Noises**

[@jackmorrison5875]

I hope the military makes something like this. Could be useful.

[@nicolala7132]

"Firing Main Cannon" - Sheila

[@davidlivingston9169]

It is a shame that the M820 design only appears in Halo 5, the design looked so cool and didn’t deserve to be passed over for the M808 design in Halo Infinite!!!!!

[@thelonebanana6025]

The MAC Gun from HALO should also be a vid!

[@369Sigma]

“Oh, I know what the ladies like.” -Johnson

[@mobius0691]

Great video!

[@ProteanDev]

Do Baneblade next

[@Jackson-tt8uh]

You guys should collab with Installation00 for Halo content! I think it would be pretty cool to see 2 of my favorite channels working together

[@NornFang_S058]

Scorpion, ready to.. Oh wait, wrong franchise... :)