MA. v Karen Read Trial Day 2- First Responders, Defendant Statements & My Cousin Vinny.

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Emily D. Baker

Emily D. Baker

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@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend 7 ай бұрын
Hi Emily, I just want to say your streams are such a comfort to me right now. I've just sold my dream home after a divorce - it's really the only home I've had in a long time, and I've just moved into my own little townhouse. My family lives on the other side of the world and the move has been scary and overwhelming (especially as someone with diagnosed ADHD) to do all alone. Having your trial streams on while I was packing a month ago, and now while I'm unpacking, is helping it feel like I'm still home, just home somewhere else. Thank you.
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
💜
@rhondasantos573
@rhondasantos573 7 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, you sound like me❤. I know it's tough, but I gotta believe God has a plan for us, and we will see it eventually emerge through the clouds.❤
@TheEmilyDBaker
@TheEmilyDBaker 7 ай бұрын
A huge hug to you as you make your new space a home to heal in and a space all your own. You've got this and we've got like 8 weeks of trial to get it done. Set things up that make sense to your brain, I love my light dimmers and I putting dishes closest to the dishwasher so they are easy to unload. Somewhere to fold clean clothes near the washer because sometimes they will sit there for a minute....etc. You've got this.
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
We are your lawnerd family! These livestreams are great to be background to me getting tasks done too! Hope you can settle in well to your new home and make friends and connections in the new area. Hugs and prayers, Goblin 😊!
@lisainthelab
@lisainthelab 7 ай бұрын
Whoever wrote “You know who else hasn’t had their coffee yet? Other Emily” won the internet for the year. 😂😂 I burst out laughing at that😆😆
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 7 ай бұрын
So did I. I am jealous that I’m not quick enough to think of this stuff, but I still give them their flowers 💐👏🏻👏🏻
@007nadineL
@007nadineL 7 ай бұрын
Okay calm down. You making a comment takes away the fun little tidbit .
@iamjaek
@iamjaek 7 ай бұрын
Yep 😂😂
@NaturesSong12
@NaturesSong12 7 ай бұрын
@@007nadineL sounds like a you issue
@jessirarara
@jessirarara 7 ай бұрын
Also Emily... My husband is trying to lose weight and is self conscious. I told him that I'll love him at any size and he said "Nah... you can't know that..." and I'm like "You were skinny when we met 17 years ago and you're not skinny now... pretty sure I've loved you at all sizes in that range." To which he said "I don't see any proof..." And I yelled, "OBJECTION!!! I HAVE DEMONSTRATIVES!!!" and he stopped in his tracks and just goes "What the fuck does that even mean???" And I said "I have photographic proof! I still have my first picture I took of you at Wendy's. I have 17 YEARS WORTH OF PHOTOS.... I.... have.... demonstratives... that I have loved you at every size.... SIR!!!" Just wanted to give you that giggle lol.
@ChristopherMichael180
@ChristopherMichael180 7 ай бұрын
I love this. So glad you are supporting him even though he’s a little self conscious about some body changes. Also on my own weight loss journey and supporting your hubby in spirit. 🙌🙌💪
@foxymama9203
@foxymama9203 7 ай бұрын
That is epic! Tell your hubby he is a lucky man! My husband also has demonstratives that he has loved me through thicker or thinner, he might not say it but it matters, I promise!
@renesmook
@renesmook 7 ай бұрын
My husband and I literally had this conversation over the weekend and I am so upset at missing out on the opportunity to respond to him with an OBJECTION!!! haha this is epic and i cannot wait for him to mention it again so i can finally seize my moment 🙂
@ericapickering8101
@ericapickering8101 7 ай бұрын
We’ve had this conversation too! His response was “well, I’ve seen you naked & I’m still attracted to you, so…” 😂❤
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 7 ай бұрын
Adorable 🥰
@amandabriggs794
@amandabriggs794 7 ай бұрын
Canton have voted to audit the PD because of this case.
@joliveira18
@joliveira18 7 ай бұрын
check out the young jurks to see the first police audit committee meeting.. it was ROUGH
@MsTinkerbelle87
@MsTinkerbelle87 7 ай бұрын
Thank goodness!!
@smith899
@smith899 7 ай бұрын
When we as a society give THIS much power to individuals, there MUST be higher requirements of them and good checks and balances. I think we rely WAY too much on the honesty of cops.
@jenbee2578
@jenbee2578 7 ай бұрын
@@joliveira18Just watched that video - holy shitballs, that Bob guy has got to go! That video needs to get totally blown up, viral. Get the attention of someone powerful who can go in and clean house. Canton isn’t going to be able to while Bob is in charge. 😞
@foxymama9203
@foxymama9203 7 ай бұрын
Gotta check them out! I think that explains why the officers seem so defensive. This case is just wild and it seems pretty clear already that this investigation was completely fumbled, just not sure if it was just incompetence or willful incompetence.
@rawbathandbeauty
@rawbathandbeauty 7 ай бұрын
Emily! I just can’t hear “what if anything” anymore without thinking of Elane!!
@smith899
@smith899 7 ай бұрын
OMG, me too! As well as thinking, “What if anything is not the cure-all, Elaine.” 😂
@KKonYouTube
@KKonYouTube 7 ай бұрын
We all have PESD (Post Elaaaaaaiiiinnnnneeee Stress Disorder)
@bsummers1386
@bsummers1386 7 ай бұрын
Literally same. She tainted that phrase lmao
@eh1126
@eh1126 7 ай бұрын
Same! This trial is making my ears hurt
@HermitLady
@HermitLady 7 ай бұрын
Same! 🤦‍♀️
@Boon54321
@Boon54321 7 ай бұрын
Questionable a police officer didn’t come out of his home for an emergency at his property. Where were the life saving efforts for a fellow officer?
@MC-lb2nr
@MC-lb2nr 7 ай бұрын
Right? My neighbor 4 doors down is a cop and comes out for any disturbance…this is sus!
@eroseagle19
@eroseagle19 7 ай бұрын
Not even just a fellow officer but a friend of his too, very suspicious imo
@Boon54321
@Boon54321 7 ай бұрын
@@eroseagle19exactly the friend that was invited to socialise with you. It makes no sense. Leave no man behind mentality went out the window. Alerting him & getting him out to the front lawn would have been quicker by phone or knocking on the door than waiting for the police/ambulance to arrive. Aid: blankets etc. Even offering assistance as more units were arriving. What it does say is distance. No problem in Jen entering the home moments later.
@Southernnj26
@Southernnj26 7 ай бұрын
It’s said Jen went in after the original drama calmed and woke everyone, apparently will explain in testimony. Well see
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
The day of the incident Brian Albert & another officer went to NY for a fallen officer but could not walk out of his house for a fallen MA officer 🤔🤔🤔🤷‍♀️
@Michaela_Ish
@Michaela_Ish 7 ай бұрын
At this point the prosecution hasnt convinced me of anything, and the defense has introduced a lot of questions/doubt
@krissyridgelawnerd
@krissyridgelawnerd 7 ай бұрын
That's exactly where I'm at too...
@sydneysomer9958
@sydneysomer9958 7 ай бұрын
Neither side has convinced me of anything so far.
@DyslecticAttack
@DyslecticAttack 7 ай бұрын
​@@sydneysomer9958as it should be this early in the trial. But noteworthy is that the prosecution is the only one with a burden to prove anything. Defense just has to give you a reasonable doubt.
@vee_tinymoose
@vee_tinymoose 7 ай бұрын
Me too
@007nadineL
@007nadineL 7 ай бұрын
*I HIGHLY REC. KZbinR / FORENSIC EXAMINER / BOOK AUTHOR / PAT BROWN'S EXCELLENT ANALYSIS RE HOW KAREN IS PRETTY GUILTY LOOKING.*
@dhec34
@dhec34 7 ай бұрын
I love having Emily and the Law Nerds in my daily routine again. 🥰
@LynseyLou92
@LynseyLou92 7 ай бұрын
Same!!!!
@Nonameforyoudangit
@Nonameforyoudangit 7 ай бұрын
God bless. If ever we need emergency ambulatory services, we hope that the paramedics / EMTs are as knowledgeable as Mr. Nuttal!
@sherrythiel6505
@sherrythiel6505 7 ай бұрын
‪If you heard “I hit him” as you are trying to gather information on how to treat the victim, wouldn’t you have follow up questions? Like “hit him with what? Hit him where?” Etc‬
@WhitePaint5775
@WhitePaint5775 7 ай бұрын
Excellent point.
@itsjuliannajo
@itsjuliannajo 7 ай бұрын
Holy hell, I didn't even think of that. You're right: it seems that would be obvious if one was a responding officer.
@theelletrain4775
@theelletrain4775 7 ай бұрын
Yesssss. No follow up! Hit him with what ma’am? This is so important!
@LykaFoxbriar
@LykaFoxbriar 7 ай бұрын
most cops that I know put people in cuffs who confess to hurting/hitting people.
@Lukkaboc
@Lukkaboc 7 ай бұрын
Good point! I didn't think of that. the cop car video didn't seem to show a car in position to have just hit someone, so makes sense to ask "hit with what?".
@ylianavantveer2863
@ylianavantveer2863 7 ай бұрын
Replay crew here! When there was a tragic and unexpected death in our family I apperently was saying; "I'm so sorry" on repeat. I was in shock. I was just sorry that I wasn't there when it happened, that I couldn't help. It's not fair to make statements into an guilty plea. It's such a mental blow; your brain go's haywire
@KellieBell
@KellieBell 7 ай бұрын
My idea of love is when 2 people bring each other Starbucks at work, especially without asking. And then the recipient says thank you and actually means it, not taking the favor for granted. And the bringer of Starbucks actually hears it and feels good about it. And by doing this simple act of kindness repeatedly, love keeps growing.
@SabertoothedTiger69
@SabertoothedTiger69 7 ай бұрын
I'm into it. New standard set
@karamariebrown
@karamariebrown 7 ай бұрын
This guy seems like a very good first responder. Glad we have people like him on the job! Thank you sir, for your hard work.
@niniemecanik
@niniemecanik 7 ай бұрын
The defense's line of questioning: ABCDEFG... The prosecution's line of questioning: FAFFWVSGSGGGGGGSGHEHUDU
@TheEmilyDBaker
@TheEmilyDBaker 7 ай бұрын
Followed by but first let me circle back to XDROUTNB(#&U%&Y
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
Add in irrelevant "tell me about all your family members and their friends and all their first middle and last names, most of whom are Brian or Mike"
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
@@origamikiddo2625and who is the godson of who’s brother in law?
@Shangori
@Shangori 7 ай бұрын
...I'm going to end up groaning throughout this stream, aren't I?
@Rain_Reign
@Rain_Reign 7 ай бұрын
@@Shangoriobjection, calls for speculation (but yes, I think we all will)
@brandymangrum3722
@brandymangrum3722 7 ай бұрын
The judge is so rude and her sighing like that during defense questioning is ridiculous
@MsTinkerbelle87
@MsTinkerbelle87 7 ай бұрын
She has to know its all bs.
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 7 ай бұрын
​@@MsTinkerbelle87she actually is bias. The defense motioned to have her recuse herself in pretrial, as the third party offenders (Alberts) claim to know her and rent her cottage on the coast which she confirmed to have. She rules to not recuse herself on this after a 15 minute break while still not ruling on 2 defense motions after sitting for 70 days.
@hollysquires5185
@hollysquires5185 7 ай бұрын
Omg right!!!!! So rude and annoying!
@LongshipNemesis
@LongshipNemesis 7 ай бұрын
Please, Never stop interrupting it's your insight that makes trials make sense. Replay crew hit the 👍🏼 for EDB & mods
@itsjuliannajo
@itsjuliannajo 7 ай бұрын
Me while trying to listen to the dash cam audio: "What's with all the barking dogs?!? Whose the fvck are those?---Oh, sh*t. They're mine."
@Michaela_Ish
@Michaela_Ish 7 ай бұрын
😂
@Courtney-R
@Courtney-R 7 ай бұрын
Relatable 😂
@mayrrrad
@mayrrrad 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Schnauzerpatrol
@Schnauzerpatrol 7 ай бұрын
My mini Schnauzer was raising Cain😅
@foxymama9203
@foxymama9203 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I relate!
@Kimbakimothy
@Kimbakimothy 7 ай бұрын
Emily constantly mentioning how much of a slog direct examination is and me forgetting I’m on 2x speed, but still getting bored with direct is just… I can’t imagine watching this on normal speed omg.
@Treyn444
@Treyn444 7 ай бұрын
Jen walking into the house is a big deal. Obviously people in the house knew. No way Jen not mentioning that
@nicolewhite1288
@nicolewhite1288 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely - he went in to talk to the Albertsons!
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
@@nicolewhite1288Jen, the homeowner’s sister 💜
@tracylynn3623
@tracylynn3623 7 ай бұрын
Even if they didn’t know at first - once Jen McCabe went into her sisters house that morning you would think that any reg cop (b Albert) would come out to see why his cop buddies are out on his front lawn - maybe he didn’t want anyone to see him (was he hiding bruises from a fight? On his hands? On his face? Was the dog inside ? Also were there any animal tracks in the snow near O’keefe ? Defense would want to rule out other possible animals outside near Okeefe to narrow down animal markings? If that is what caused injury to his arm?
@ianmcnally8501
@ianmcnally8501 7 ай бұрын
They never came out of the house in order to avoid questions and the assessments of police who may look at the hands the faces for bruises! brilliant.
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
@@tracylynn3623 that is mad sus! I am Tracy Lee👍🏻💜
@tammygray
@tammygray 7 ай бұрын
Witness Nutall -- At first I was like, "Woah, this person is *intense*." Now I'm thinking he's who I would want in an emergency. Great witness!!!
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
i was thinking hes probably used to having to be loud, decisive, and focused so it made sense to me. And i think he only came across so loud cuz the other officers were subdued and prosecutor is super subdued.
@perryrush6563
@perryrush6563 7 ай бұрын
He is a GREAT medical witness. Most paramedics never testify and would be more concerned about someone trying to say the messed up. He could have been teaching an ACLS class as he hit every proper terminology. Great job Mr. Paramedic sir.
@PaigeSlonina
@PaigeSlonina 6 ай бұрын
I went to highschool with this guy and he has always been such a sweet sweet guy!
@jsthecat
@jsthecat 7 ай бұрын
EMILY 🙏 🙏 DO NOT STOP INTERRUPTING I live for your live commentary in trials ❤
@bsummers1386
@bsummers1386 7 ай бұрын
Right like I need help with breaking moments down and she does so perfectly
@mariee.5912
@mariee.5912 7 ай бұрын
I was "interrupt please, lady!"
@maggieclendenin6740
@maggieclendenin6740 7 ай бұрын
Same! She's on fire today!!
@Certari
@Certari 7 ай бұрын
Aaaaaamen!!
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
EDB talks the Exact Right Amount IMO💜👍🏻
@philtasticcomicsandart
@philtasticcomicsandart 7 ай бұрын
lol if I learn anything from this trial it’s going to be to always double check my Starbucks order. Props to the good dr for having the mind to call and say this don’t look right. He saved 2 Emily’s day today. 🎉
@MsGilly
@MsGilly 7 ай бұрын
2:35:30 my husband works 48/96 shifts as a firefighter (battalion chief). 48 hours on, 96 hours off. Other FDs in my area work 24/48s. For those who are wondering, yes, they do get to sleep there. There are bunk rooms! 😊
@VirginiaGeorge
@VirginiaGeorge 7 ай бұрын
We tried to pass 48/96 but it didn’t pass by a couple votes. My husband does a 4 day tour every other day and then has a 4 day and a 6 day. The Canton schedule seems pretty cushy. Lucky!
@jenbee2578
@jenbee2578 7 ай бұрын
My rotation was 24 on, 24 off, 24 on call. Lather, rinse, repeat. It’s a different life, and while I’m no longer a paramedic, I am always grateful for the years I spent with my brothers and sisters in EMS.
@KBlanca513
@KBlanca513 7 ай бұрын
I love this paramedic, he’s stellar. He definitely has a motor that keeps him going.
@amandaferriss6511
@amandaferriss6511 7 ай бұрын
I work private security, the majority of our job is observe and report. These cops did not do their jobs. My report coming across that scene would have had a whole shit ton more information than what these two "saw" and "heard".
@007nadineL
@007nadineL 7 ай бұрын
Like what for example?
@amandaferriss6511
@amandaferriss6511 7 ай бұрын
@@007nadineL Where the body was located, pictures of the area, what clothes he had on, names of who they spoke to, and a million other things. We are taught the main things to put in a report answer the all important questions, Who, What, When, Where an if possible How.
@nellyvieira9496
@nellyvieira9496 7 ай бұрын
Emily, regardless if the house was the scene or not, Jennifer McCabe was a witness AT THE SCENE ON THE LAWN! She should NOT have been allowed to leave the scene until questioned. Certainly NOT to go into the house until they ascertained there was no one in the house she could discuss information with ... which of course, they would not be able to do that since Brian Albert and her sister were both in the house.
@Southernnj26
@Southernnj26 7 ай бұрын
I heard she went in towards the end to wake them up
@nellyvieira9496
@nellyvieira9496 7 ай бұрын
@@Southernnj26 Yes. She went in to try to get them to come out because she didn't want to be out there on her own. They refused.
@Southernnj26
@Southernnj26 7 ай бұрын
@@nellyvieira9496 oh wow!
@MeganSpruce90
@MeganSpruce90 7 ай бұрын
2:36:52 "a significant storm...supposedly" Yeah, that basically sums up New England weather.. you dont listen to the weatherman, they're never right when it comes to snow.. you look out your window.
@screamqueen1946
@screamqueen1946 5 ай бұрын
This is what I was thinking 😂 & us new englanders aren't phased by it, which is why even after the storm that did end up happening, he still said "supposedly" bc we're so used to being underwhelmed after everyone was freaking out. That part made me laugh lol.
@-OutsideTheBox
@-OutsideTheBox 7 ай бұрын
2nd half replay crew...because time zones. Love court days. Gavel to Gavel with EDB is absolutely the best way to watch and learn on the interwebs ⚖️
@Bigjmoney83
@Bigjmoney83 6 ай бұрын
The leaf blower was to cover the tracks from the house to the body. They blew snow to cover stuff up.
@nicholaskovach2072
@nicholaskovach2072 7 ай бұрын
The constant harping on the defendant screaming about the victim possibly being dead by the prosecutor is mind boggling to me. It’s not in anyway an abnormal reaction to those kinds of situations.
@moniqued9715
@moniqued9715 7 ай бұрын
so if I have a person lying dead or possibly dead and beaten to a pulp on my property, I shouldn't expect to have an officer come to my door asking for information? Ok 👌
@katejarman4598
@katejarman4598 7 ай бұрын
It’s looking like your best option to evade being investigated at this point
@juliehinkel608
@juliehinkel608 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@tammygray
@tammygray 7 ай бұрын
Emily - The day you stop commenting is the day I stop watching. If I didn't want your comments, I would watch a plain stream. You're the reason we're all here!!! "Interrupt" away!!!
@shkrjam84
@shkrjam84 7 ай бұрын
I’ve tried watching trials without her, and it’s just not the same anymore! I neeeeed the Emily! 💜
@woofbarkyap
@woofbarkyap 7 ай бұрын
Seconded! That's what I'm here for
@LawNerd007
@LawNerd007 7 ай бұрын
Why anyone would complain about her amazing comments I’m not sure! I agree. I’m here for Emily!
@leslie3933
@leslie3933 7 ай бұрын
It really makes you realize how much stuff the average juror would not pick up on, because we don’t pick up on it either without Emily.
@lindaoheff9169
@lindaoheff9169 7 ай бұрын
I like to pretend I’m on the jury when I watch trials which is why I’ve stopped watching Emily…just came today to catch up
@nikkyleigh2014
@nikkyleigh2014 7 ай бұрын
I find the judge sighing repeatedly throughout this whole session so disrespectful and unwarranted. This is your job....if you don't want to be there, don't be a judge? If you can't contain your sighs, mute your mic... Its really offputting for me. Not having the grounds spoken during objections is also really strange to me! Seems like an odd choice.
@neraknawoc7709
@neraknawoc7709 7 ай бұрын
This Judge is giving major bias! She can’t sit still either, it’s driving me insane! Like she’s so bored and really disinterested
@Ji5-24
@Ji5-24 7 ай бұрын
Can’t hear her sighing at all
@courtneylegaloff3851
@courtneylegaloff3851 7 ай бұрын
Some lawyers have an agenda with their speaking objections, that’s why.
@Ji5-24
@Ji5-24 7 ай бұрын
@@courtneylegaloff3851 Exactly appears it’s that
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 7 ай бұрын
Seeing as the defense had grounds for recusal, hmmm
@dfmcjr123
@dfmcjr123 7 ай бұрын
Trooper Proctor is the lead investigator and touched everything!!!
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 7 ай бұрын
To me he is as questionable an investigator as Mark Furman . Like any evidence collected by him is poisonous and should be not be used.
@interlocution6619
@interlocution6619 7 ай бұрын
So happy I'm not on the jury. I'm already so entrenched in the idea of reasonable doubt. I can't be unbiased at this point.
@kayreive
@kayreive 7 ай бұрын
My goodness, I love watching you, listening to you...Thank you for just being there :)
@JCurry1123
@JCurry1123 7 ай бұрын
The thing that sticks out to me, whether or not she is guilty, cops hold too much power.
@nellyvieira9496
@nellyvieira9496 7 ай бұрын
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
@sydneysomer9958
@sydneysomer9958 7 ай бұрын
You need to watch body cam footage of cops making arrests on youtube...the crap and abuse they put up with is INSANE. I had NO idea how BADLY ppl, especially young ppl treat cops until I went down rabbit hole of body cam footage videos and the DA's are CONSTANTLY dropping assault on police officer charges.
@JW-cc1vj
@JW-cc1vj 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheEmilyDBaker
@TheEmilyDBaker 7 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@A_tiny_chihuahua
@A_tiny_chihuahua 7 ай бұрын
I live in Boston, and I remember that snow storm very clearly. I was potty training my few-month old shorthaired Chihuahua puppy and had to take her outside every few hours, even in the snow! It was brutal. The videos don't totally show how bad the weather was, it was a few inches every hour. It had started the night before and went all day. It was the last big snow storm we've had!
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
I'm in NY and trying to remember if we had a bad storm then too as it usually hits us first then travels over to y'all. But this might've been just a bad N'orester hitting over there
@MarthaMacArthur
@MarthaMacArthur 7 ай бұрын
Nuttall genuinely loves and respects his career.
@grasshopper2144
@grasshopper2144 7 ай бұрын
Dear KZbin, Please pick me for a membership! A day off from EDB court has resulted in watching My Cousin Vinny. Always an honour to hear your commentary Emily ☺️
@007nadineL
@007nadineL 7 ай бұрын
How does one get a gifted membership?????
@grasshopper2144
@grasshopper2144 7 ай бұрын
@007nadineL KZbin chooses you at random... "join", 3 dots top right, then select "gift settings" to turn on the opportunity to be given a monthly membership. 😊
@alliebrewer4229
@alliebrewer4229 7 ай бұрын
My theory behind the emphasis on the incorrect logs and address is trying to discredit CPD’s accuracy in record keeping. Accuracy in report on how things occurred. If we can’t trust something as simple as the logs, how can we trust anything else? Right off the rip, incorrect info is being given to the jury. Great strategy
@shaz_am07
@shaz_am07 7 ай бұрын
Replay crew. Good to watch another trial with you and the law nerds Emily. Love my new purple embroidered hoodie by the way.
@SusieQ409
@SusieQ409 7 ай бұрын
I now think that prosecution going out of chronological order is intentional because the timing is so critical in this case that he wants the jury to stay completely confused.
@roxann_bam
@roxann_bam 7 ай бұрын
Watching on replay.... If there were furrows on the arm, wouldn't the puffy coat be shredded?
@Lukkaboc
@Lukkaboc 7 ай бұрын
I'm so curious about the clothes and missing shoe defense mentioned! So far the cops don't seem to have much observation but my hope is they interview the hospital he was taken too. They should have an inventory right? and some sort of testimony of what the clothes looked like when brought in from the ambulance right? I'd think a dog attach would look different from being hit by a reversing car?
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
So the furrows like from a dog biting and pulling the skin, huh? Or a person scratching and pulling?
@lindseyh1686
@lindseyh1686 7 ай бұрын
As someone from MA, you WILL hear someone say wicked before the end of this trial 😂
@Itsdestinysheree
@Itsdestinysheree 7 ай бұрын
The defense is coming out strong. Much more confident and put together than the prosecution imo
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
They just make sense when they talk, you see the story, you see their suspicions, we can hear them much better during questioning! I'm questioning the training for prosecutors now
@Itsdestinysheree
@Itsdestinysheree 7 ай бұрын
@@origamikiddo2625 likewise!
@robinlennon2580
@robinlennon2580 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this case. I am wacthing you and 2 other lawyers covering this case to get different perspectives.💕
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
Who else are you watching?? I know Legal Bytes was live streaming but haven't heard of others.
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
Attorney Melanie Little knows the entire case. Sean McDonough Going through the motions does very good summaries each night.
@janarheacartwright8361
@janarheacartwright8361 7 ай бұрын
I just love being a part of the Law Nerds and watching you!!!! I haven’t been watching much lately, life happens but this one is awesome!!
@randamgrrl
@randamgrrl 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Nuttall is an excellent witness.
@SonicBlissings
@SonicBlissings 7 ай бұрын
1. This trial is NOT about ‘this’ storm! 2. This prosecutor needs to declutter his mind so that he can follow a thought and not get lost taking everyone for a wander with him. My mind hurts!!
@cherylrevell3081
@cherylrevell3081 7 ай бұрын
I get it but if he wants to tank the case that bad, I say let him.
@diananewton6573
@diananewton6573 7 ай бұрын
Taking everyone for a wander. I love this! I may be guilty of this…
@kittensunit3354
@kittensunit3354 7 ай бұрын
my coworker does this when she's in the wrong, deflect and add confusion
@Schnauzerpatrol
@Schnauzerpatrol 7 ай бұрын
Keep Charlottes NC in your hearts. Please. Yesterday was a bad day for our LEOs❤
@jessicawilk439
@jessicawilk439 7 ай бұрын
Replay crew driving around doing errands listening over bluetooth getting freaked out by the constant sirens thinking they were close by 😂😂
@ehimycarrizo7360
@ehimycarrizo7360 7 ай бұрын
Yes!!!!
@nellyvieira9496
@nellyvieira9496 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't the prosecution that said they may not call Proctor. It was the judge challenging the defense lawyer asking her "what if the prosecution doesn't call Proctor" at which point the defense said "then we'll call Proctor" and the gallery broke out in laughter. The judge is extremely biased in this case...I've watched all the pre-trial hearings and she is barely trying to pretend she's unbiased. Shocking really
@annamelvina216
@annamelvina216 7 ай бұрын
Her sighing is so unprofessional, imo.
@suemitricka9031
@suemitricka9031 7 ай бұрын
ABSOFOOKINGLUTELY
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
Her squeaky chair? Was that what I am hearing 53:31
@mini_skinny0296
@mini_skinny0296 7 ай бұрын
To me the judge seems very ditzy.
@silikon2
@silikon2 7 ай бұрын
Are these pre-trial hearings online and can you give us in which one and when this happened?
@Itsdestinysheree
@Itsdestinysheree 7 ай бұрын
If they fucked up the little things, imagine what they did with the big things
@TheEmilyDBaker
@TheEmilyDBaker 7 ай бұрын
That's exactly the point of the defense cross!
@Wimblefish
@Wimblefish 7 ай бұрын
If Karen is found guilty, can she appeal based on the objections both the ones from the attorneys and the ones the judge has made off her own back? surely the record needs to show the grounds for all the objections. this judge seems very much like she does not want to be there, the sighs are so disrespectful to both the victim and the defendant!
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole 7 ай бұрын
She can appeal anything if convicted but it takes quite a bit for a conviction to be overturned or a new trial ordered. It's rare. It needs to be at the level where that error by the court was impactful enough to change the outcome.
@bradenculver7457
@bradenculver7457 7 ай бұрын
@@HaarschmuckfachgeschafttadpoleI wouldn’t call it rare… it’s uncommon for most cases, sure, but it still happens all the time.
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I was wondering too, how does not stating the ground work with any appeals since we don't know why they objected? Like how does the judge know what they are objecting too? Makes it seem like they are so familiar with each other the judge can read their mind or thinking of the objection herself.
@vee_tinymoose
@vee_tinymoose 7 ай бұрын
Yes! How on earth does an appeal work when there is no record of what the ground were??
@Parker.planet
@Parker.planet 7 ай бұрын
Never seen a case solved so quickly, almost upon arrival, as they didn’t seem to be looking for a cop killer at the scene of a dead officer.
@tinykitsune0387
@tinykitsune0387 7 ай бұрын
I agree it is very very odd
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole 7 ай бұрын
... Because they thought they were just doing medical. While doing lifesaving measures with no clear reports or 911 calls saying they were shot or someone saw something what are they going to do? For all they know he was drunk and passed out outside but it was clear from the evidence so far that initially nobody thought there was a killer as all they had was a body in the snow.
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
His body was cold when the first officer checked him for a pulse. He won’t be able to tell you what happened, obviously!
@tinykitsune0387
@tinykitsune0387 7 ай бұрын
@@Princelover-ip4gn and? They still didn’t question anyone at the house they didn’t door knock. With what we have seen so far it does not even look like they had crime scene out to case. Just this sketchy detective who know the people that lived in the house. I have to many questions ATM to say that they charged the right person and I think thats a shame. The state should never bring a case with this many holes.
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
​@@tinykitsune0387What if someone or everyone in the house was dead? That is what I would think if homeowners didn't come out😮
@maggieclendenin6740
@maggieclendenin6740 7 ай бұрын
Emily you need your own courtroom girl!! I live for your commentary!!!! Love love this channel!
@chazzy_g
@chazzy_g 7 ай бұрын
Had to work 12s, but I'm catching up on all the lives today!! Thank you, Emily
@chazzy_g
@chazzy_g 7 ай бұрын
This trial is actually happening in the town where I'm staying for my current assignment, as well as my previous. That was actually a very bad storm bc of the wind and minimal plowing.
@lauraramsey905
@lauraramsey905 7 ай бұрын
My car will automatically stop when the back sensors sense or the camera sees something. It’s also an older model than hers. That’s the part that gave me questions.
@lindseyh1686
@lindseyh1686 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking this too. I’m sure her car had that as it seems newer.
@lauraramsey905
@lauraramsey905 7 ай бұрын
@@lindseyh1686 It absolutely should. Mine is a 2016 Infinity. I would think that an Infinity and a Lexus are on the same quality, bells & whistles level. Mine stops hard and you have to give it gas to go again. I’m open minded because she was drunk.
@Aliyah.and.friends
@Aliyah.and.friends 7 ай бұрын
2:05:44 Whether there was a dead person or unconscious person really shouldn't matter... They should treat it like a crime scene anyways!! There is a beat up man sitting at deaths door and they don't treat it like a crime scene?? 🤔
@mildredflemyng-middleton4795
@mildredflemyng-middleton4795 7 ай бұрын
Here in WI the only time I've seen a leaf blower for snow was when there was like, a millimeter of snow.
@wldncrzy1971
@wldncrzy1971 6 ай бұрын
4:36:53 I’m a native of north central Iowa…currently in southeast Texas for 21 yrs….heavy, wet snow will not move with a LEAF BLOWER. Only dry , light snow will move. So was the blizzard snow a heavy wet snow or a dry light snow? This is my biggest question!
@juliepattison5071
@juliepattison5071 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know that because where I live it's totally different it gives you a totally different perspective
@juliepattison5071
@juliepattison5071 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know that because where I live it's totally different it gives you a totally different perspective
@Mjolnir200508
@Mjolnir200508 7 ай бұрын
This prosecutor with “what,if any?” Almost every single question. “It’s not a cure all”! I had exactly the same thought as EDB when I heard the sirens, and I was like “who’s at Station 1?” Ha! When Emily paused and says the judge is like gtfo, her face literally looked like she was saying “GTFO”😂
@daniellevanfleet175
@daniellevanfleet175 7 ай бұрын
The defense is doing a great job of reasonable doubt they have made me think about a lot
@claudia5908
@claudia5908 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, EBD. I also was frustrated with the prosecutor. He was jumping all over the place. The first paramedic seemed to have adhd. He was the most interesting witness of the day. My cousin Vinny is an awesome movie! I was completely baffled about the leaf blower. You don’t want to blow away evidence. They already established that it was snowing at 6 am. About 4 to 6 inches. Why keep asking? If he had a thick coat, how did he get the injuries on the arm? 🤔 I would think the jacket would protect him? The occupants of the house behaviors was quite curious. Cops take care of their own. Maybe this state trooper took it too far.
@ellaw356
@ellaw356 7 ай бұрын
Why is there no body cam footage from the cops at the scene?? Does anyone know?
@sydneyamberkelly
@sydneyamberkelly 7 ай бұрын
Love the firefighters testimony. V knowledgeable and easy to understand!
@kiera_kayaks7521
@kiera_kayaks7521 7 ай бұрын
I am also watching the Daybell trial. What I have been doing is watching EDB while she's live. And then watching the daybell trial at 1.75 speed and zooming through brakes
@kellistern816
@kellistern816 7 ай бұрын
Me too!
@kimmie6530
@kimmie6530 5 ай бұрын
I am only watching cases with EDB commentary from now on. The commentary is priceless. Ty EDB.
@angelasandersbooks
@angelasandersbooks 7 ай бұрын
@EDB - 2:19:27 Possible Pickle name: What Dill Any We'll get a laugh and purge, "What if any...?"
@Anniebanany1955
@Anniebanany1955 7 ай бұрын
This judge feels so biased to me. Her sighing loudly during the defense questioning, the way she speaks to the defense and a few of her rulings really makes it seems like she has already decided the prosecution should prevail. Also, the lack of grounds on objections is NUTS. Does she just guess what the grounds are?!
@A_L-qy2qg
@A_L-qy2qg 7 ай бұрын
Seriously, at one point the defense is questioning and the prosecution objects and she says “He can have that” begrudgingly?!? Seems prejudicial to the jury?!
@darkangel4288
@darkangel4288 7 ай бұрын
MI here and we call that snow a sprinkle 🤣 im here for all the Emily commentary!
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
In MA we don't call it a "blizzard". Perhaps only in Canton😂😂😂
@kathleentorres2010
@kathleentorres2010 7 ай бұрын
I've always questioned the tail light breaking upon striking a body. Those things are thick. I don't see a body that bends and moves breaking a light cover like that. This has always hit me as squirrely as heck.
@therealdeal3672
@therealdeal3672 7 ай бұрын
Caught part of the live and part replay crew. Glad that Emily is annoyed with the prosecutor, he is so all over the place.
@InfiniteBubble
@InfiniteBubble 7 ай бұрын
I've been watching hearings for this case for awhile and Judge Cannone is ALWAYS like this. It's not a matter of her just being tired the past couple days. This is her norm and she tends to be more snappy with the defense. And she always wants to get the hell outta there. I remember one hearing she told them the next hearing they would have all day. Well that next hearing came and she limited them to 10 minutes!! Defense had to do some serious adjusting real quick. She's awful....in my opinion.
@annamelvina216
@annamelvina216 7 ай бұрын
Is it just the defense in this case or is she like this for every case? Because right now she's coming across as very biased.
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
Completely agree. She is really getting on my nerves! Definitely hates the defense. She also rented her beach house out to someone in the "family & friends" group but the money was paid to her brother! Js
@tammygray
@tammygray 7 ай бұрын
Wow. I have never seen a judge cut things off like that in a jury trial. They usually find a good stopping point -- not right in the middle of an examination.
@Always_Thinking
@Always_Thinking 7 ай бұрын
She has consistently done that to the defense throughout all of the pretrial hearings!
@mak327
@mak327 7 ай бұрын
Dang! Emily’s opening statement got me and that was with no prep
@Certari
@Certari 7 ай бұрын
As she said - it’s not that hard! What is the prosecutor doing?!?
@carliesmith3252
@carliesmith3252 7 ай бұрын
If I’m trying to ascertain injuries and cause and someone says I hit him, I would be following up “with what”. A fist is a different situation to a car and important for treatment
@06Joybells
@06Joybells 7 ай бұрын
EDB has me cracking up about the ceiling fan.
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
An officer who says “I don’t remember anything?”. Sir sir isn’t that the purpose for your presence at the scene? Police are supposed to observe, but this cop says “I didn’t see anything, I don’t remember”?
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 5 ай бұрын
I'm no lawyer but it seems to me that a witness going into the house, makes the house involved later.
@melz3671
@melz3671 7 ай бұрын
This judge acts like everyone is just a big bother to her entire day!!!!!!
@BlackCatBritt
@BlackCatBritt 7 ай бұрын
lmao at the coffee mixup in the beginning 😂 Dr. B: ?!? Meanwhile, Emily: *busy giving a top tier stump speech to chat* I DIED 😂😂😂
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
I love but hate EDB's opening and closing arguments cuz they are so good which makes me frustrated the attorney's can't do it like her AND makes me sad well never see her give those actual arguments. But I guess we get to hear them anyway so we are the winners
@pageslieahead
@pageslieahead 7 ай бұрын
Love the Bring the Jury bumper 💜 Judge Newman was great
@jasl9987
@jasl9987 7 ай бұрын
Defintely love the commentary, duh thats why we are here 😉 ..... but i do appreciate when she pauses the court to talk so we can hear and dont miss the attorneys questions.
@Sharon_L_W
@Sharon_L_W 7 ай бұрын
I’m getting motion sickness from the prosecution questioning. And my blood pressure rises every time I hear “what if any” 😭
@jessicajordan3073
@jessicajordan3073 7 ай бұрын
Oh EBD…..I LOVE when you shout direct questions to the witness!!!! We are all thinking it!!!! 😂😂❤❤❤
@TomasTheTankEngine
@TomasTheTankEngine 7 ай бұрын
Mr firefighter, what if anything was the weather doing?
@marlbboro8091
@marlbboro8091 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@erickab8533
@erickab8533 7 ай бұрын
If it ended today. Not guilty. There is so much reasonable doubt on this trial.
@Twinkle_Toes88
@Twinkle_Toes88 7 ай бұрын
I wood love to hear Rob from Law&Lumber talk about the woodwork in this courtroom!!😂❤
@itsjuliannajo
@itsjuliannajo 7 ай бұрын
I'm living for that Dr B phone call. 11:28
@jsthecat
@jsthecat 7 ай бұрын
Me too hilarious AF 🤣🧋
@Courtney-R
@Courtney-R 7 ай бұрын
Time stamp?
@Twinkle_Toes88
@Twinkle_Toes88 7 ай бұрын
So funny & sweet!! ❤😂
@itsjuliannajo
@itsjuliannajo 7 ай бұрын
@@Courtney-R 11:28
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
I was dying and my kiddo was like what?? What?!
@ldyboudica
@ldyboudica 7 ай бұрын
"Lemonade in a chocolate croissant at 10:00 a.m.!!" I feel personally judged right now
@LovingBeingNatural1
@LovingBeingNatural1 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, especially in smaller towns where there may be less crime, first officers behavior at crime scenes can be very different. My boyfriend called in a violent SA we came across that was in progress. The cops that came were male and female. Whenever a man tried to get near her she (the victim) became hysterical. She wouldn’t even get in the ambulance because the EMT’s were two rather large men. The male police officer became angry that she would get hysterical whenever he came near and rather than letting his female partner take the lead threatened to arrest her if she didn’t calm down. I think non-standard happens a lot especially in lower crime areas.
@LovingBeingNatural1
@LovingBeingNatural1 7 ай бұрын
I should add that the detectives never got the weapon he used because the cops on the scene left without recovering anything or setting up tape.
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 7 ай бұрын
That is infuriating! Being in a small town is zero excuse for not knowing how to properly handle a crime scene and a female victim! I don’t care if you have 3 cops on the force! Sheriff’s office and state police are there to back them up with a radio call. Deputies or state troopers should take over if the cops are so incompetent. Those photos don’t show any blood. But he was supposedly found in a pool of blood.
@JanMike9
@JanMike9 5 ай бұрын
@@LovingBeingNatural1 Some cops are just really stupid and bad at their job. I worked as a dispatcher for over 12 years...believe me, stupidity was no stranger to the PD or FD.
@randomcat9975
@randomcat9975 7 ай бұрын
I don’t know if the logs are important, per se, but this definitely seems like a lot of reasonable doubt. (And yes, I absolutely agree that this plays well with the defense’s opening statement.)
@Lukkaboc
@Lukkaboc 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. to me it seems common for everyone to have called in at different times (parking the car, turning onto the street, etc) and I'm not sure if the times are reported by the cop themselves (each may have a different clock) or the dispatcher. The log itself isn't strong evidence for me, however I see the strategy to keep introducing doubt as much as possible.
@christinanielsen9445
@christinanielsen9445 7 ай бұрын
I love the EMT- Guy! So matter of fact, and proud of his career! I think he was good as a witness..
@kabbystevens5167
@kabbystevens5167 7 ай бұрын
Point of the paramedics’ cross was John O’Keefe apparently had no coat in his possession going into the house. So where did the coat on John lying on the lawn was…where did that puffy coat come from?
@krissyridgelawnerd
@krissyridgelawnerd 7 ай бұрын
I haven't heard that... 🤔
@margaretkaine3001
@margaretkaine3001 7 ай бұрын
John DID HAVE A JACKET BUT IT WASNT ON HIM. bc…he went into the house and took it off and then was beaten and thrown outside. Thats what the defense is showing. He wasn’t walking in w his jacket on and got hit. They never went into the house where they would have presumably found his missing jacket and his missing shoe
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 7 ай бұрын
Ok I would need binoculars to see that size screen from the jury box!💜 19:42
@jodiushman7696
@jodiushman7696 7 ай бұрын
Seriously does every single witness have to give the weather report geez
@origamikiddo2625
@origamikiddo2625 7 ай бұрын
It's the asking "what if anything so you remember about hearing about inclement weather conditions or anything" like yeah, we all know there was a storm! I don't mind the how did the conditions change or not change, I see that being valid for the ppl there at that time and place. And we're just waiting to hear "wicked cold" or "wicked stormy"
@Modal_Mixxture
@Modal_Mixxture 6 ай бұрын
Just now getting into this case: my cat just had a major surgery and I have to watch him 24/7 for 3 weeks, now I know what I can watch while I'm on nurse duty!
@izzystanleyfit6517
@izzystanleyfit6517 7 ай бұрын
I also love how the defence knows which witnesses are likeable + doesn't badger them. I don't think we've seen that yet where they don't resent them - obviously will happen when the lead detective comes on but not sure he'll be likeable 😂
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