Mac Jones has lost the Pats' locker room, C.J. Stroud is owed an apology, talks TNF | NFL | THE HERD

Julian Edelman joins Colin Cowherd just ahead of a big Thursday Night Football face off, where the resurgent Cincinnati Bengals will take on the Baltimore Ravens. Edelman talks how the Ravens and Bengals prepare for tonight's game with so little time to rest in between, and shares his expectations for Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. Plus, C.J. Stroud is showing some teeth as the NFL season rolls on, and Edelman tells Colin he owes the Houston Texans quarterback an apology after his recent win streak. Edelman also details why Mac Jones has lost the New England Patriots locker room after their Week 10 loss.
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Mac Jones has lost the Pats' locker room, C.J. Stroud is owed an apology, talks TNF | NFL | THE HERD
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[@davidtorresalcazar1633]

k at Justin herbert new stats! He leads the NFL with the most passing yards in 1st 4th seasons in NFL history 16,438 passing yards in 1st Completion right now 1532. With a 3rd oc and without Mike Williams and a broken finger.

[@Tar9p]

Edelman living off of Brady just like Josh McDaniels lol. Trash

[@gianfrancoilliano]

This has turned out to a be a must-see segment

[@thawkereynolds]

I can watch every single Julian Edelman interview more than once. Literally can’t get enough.

[@jaysmith3095]

Same. Respectful, insightful, candid and always interesting.

[@masterful7346]

Yeah, he’s always entertaining yet informative.

[@EnthalpyH]

Straight up baller. Literally and figuratively.

[@JordanDinRI]

I’m a Jets fan and love him.

[@TheGrego011]

Settle down beavis.

[@TheNaturalSGO]

So no one's going to talk about how CJ Stroud totally debunks Collins whole theory that quarterbacks can't succeed with defensive coaches???

[@airgasmYT]

He just said a defensive coach won’t win a super bowl in todays NFL. Not that they couldn’t win games

[@TheNaturalSGO]

@@airgasmYT No way he's said that young QBs struggle with defensive coaches. Shroud debunks his theory.

[@tekoa.9450]

An exception confirms a rule.

[@TheNaturalSGO]

@@tekoa.9450 Big Ben + Tomlin. Lamar + Harbaugh. Brady + Belichick.... too easy.

[@ethanswartz5161]

@@tekoa.9450no an exception is an outlier

[@ryanschultz4119]

Edelman needs to start his own podcast! Constantly see him on other people's podcasts. Always entertaining, animated, & honest. Plus his Belichick impersonation is hilarious! Lol.

[@iamteao]

He does (I think it's called 'Games with Names'). Def has some great commentary & good interviews

[@justmedee]

he's had one for ages... i promise you, if theyre a pro athlete, they have a podcast. Theres only about 15 ones that are actually decent though

[@ryanschultz4119]

@@justmedee What's the name of it..? I've never heard him on his own. Always been other people's podcasts...

[@ryanschultz4119]

@iamteao Good Lookin out!👍👊

[@justmedee]

Games with Names bro. It's actually quite good. Not the best athlete pod but definitely not then worst. @@ryanschultz4119

[@LDRTrejo]

Great stuff -a Bruschi Story -a Aaron Hernandez Mention -a newfound love for CJ stroud Great interview this one

[@johngalt60]

Edelnut always delivers.

[@tjayd1225]

I would love a 2 hour show or The Volume podcast episode with Julian, I know he’s just at the tip of the ice berg with those New England teams & id love to hear more

[@jesselund360]

His pod is called "Games with Names"

[@siniister710]

my favorite part about the Cj v Bryce debate was Cj was docked for having more talent like Bryce was playing at Wyoming State lol. Dude was at Bama.

[@bg693]

Mannnn listen! People just disregard Alabama and their stacked roster.

[@korenogamer6075]

Dak had the best OL in football and Elliot. CJ plays with a people that didn't play together before this year. 12 free agents picked up this past offseason are starters. Texans also start more rookies than any NFL team.

[@rquirozsoto]

Edelman is an amazing guest

[@youtubemovierecap]

I love this interview, he got into the insights of what NFL players feel and do to be great, loved it.

[@patricksampsonmusic]

“ay Rook, you ever touch me again im gunna cut your arm off” -Tedy Bruschi 😆😂

[@RodBrites]

Julian is by far, FAR, the best guy out there doing this bits. Always insightful, cool to watch.

[@williamrose7818]

Yup

[@carterdrake4232]

Mark Sanchez is fire too

[@RedHoodFH]

Oh lawd he mentioned Aaron 😂😂😂😂

[@RedEyeItachi]

Comparing CJ to rookie Dak is laughable and a horrible comparison. Dak had the best line in football and the bear RB in football that year and was just asked to not turn the ball over. CJ is being asked to sling the MFing Rock and is 2nd in league in yards. CJ is averaging way more passing attempts and yards per game.

[@sheenaherrera7457]

Dak is horrible he can’t read defenses an he can’t beat a good team an he can’t win in clutch moments so definitely suck

[@AtakeVsTheWrld]

@@sheenaherrera7457I’m not the biggest dak fan and I definitely hate those cowgirl fans but he’s not horrible, he’s got one of the highest winning and qbr percentages in the league that’s gotta mean something

[@zennozangetsu1164]

Does it really tho? Man has stacked teams every single year@@AtakeVsTheWrld

[@Stonecoldalston]

@@sheenaherrera7457I can’t tell a lot of y’all just repeat the stuff y’all hear from the media and haters Dak in his career definitely beat good teams and he’s so horrible that he top 10 in nfl history when it comes to touch down to interception ration and at the top of the league in game winning drives since he entered the league

[@sheenaherrera7457]

Hey everyone can say what they feel in the end he NEVER DO ANYTHING HAVE HE WENT TO THE SECOND ROUND IN THE PLAYOFFS HOW BOUT WIN A SUPERBOWL AN HOW LONG HE BEEN IN THE LEAGUE WHAT 8 YEARS AN STILL CANT READ A FUCKN DEFENSE

[@Anthony-tz2wb]

“Aaron Hernandez…I know we’re not supposed to talk about that” lol

[@rashdaddypogboom2375]

The streets will never forget Chico.

[@sassylassie1992]

@@rashdaddypogboom2375 I know it's wildly unpopular to say it, but he was a phenomenal player.

[@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih]

@@sassylassie1992yeah he hand killer hands 🖐️

[@devonwhite2443]

​@@MauricioSandoval-xc9ihdied during his appeal so legally speaking he's not guilty

[@brockjensen2473]

No NFL team will ever be the same as the 2016 patriots, idc what you say. Everything that team went through not only physically with injuries but the mental component was just completely unmatched. Walking into the locker room at half time being down 28-3 and still knowing with the injuries and the absolute beating they took getting absolutely embarrassed on the biggest stage and still looking each other eye to eye and believing “we can still win this game” was the embodiment of the most special locker room I can remember in all my years watching this sport

[@williamrose7818]

💯

[@pablop637]

I can hear Edelmans patriots stories all day

[@shezpherd]

20 min with Jules! Always quality content!

[@gervaissmith8622]

julian has this presence where when he speaks... you listen and understand immediately

[@joecain8287]

Edelman is one of the best interviews on TV, period, not just football.

[@OneNateS]

18:30 there’s only 1 man that comes to mind when he describes this…. EDELNUT!

[@moldydonut27]

Having Edelman as a guest is a truly great day on the Herd

[@MoonBull13]

Mac Jones is about to play for the Indian Football league

[@Basement811]

He’s gonna be the tb12 of that league

[@jb7604]

Julian is so good.

[@PaulyinParis619]

Julian and Mark Sanchez are the best guests…

[@skevincampbell]

Mac Jones is not ANY good. Colin always says real QBs elevate and overcome. Mac deflates and gets overcome.

[@stephenreid7426]

Colin throws so much shade at ESPN every chance he gets. It’s hilarious 😂

[@stephenday2063]

Edelman needs a podcast. I get Mcafee vibes. He could be big time.

[@roarbertbearatheon8565]

They’re obviously forcing this guy. Guess he’s the next company approved “ex-player” talking head

[@peterjacoby8019]

he has a podcast. Games with Names

[@egorkou15]

Please keep these coming 🙏🏼

[@centariogrier3255]

Love listening to Edelman talk. One of the greats

[@santinodewreede3955]

Whenever Colin brings up ESPN, he sounds like an angry ex. Lol And I can’t stand modern ESPN

[@Eric_garza]

Now Colin needs to apologize 🖕🏽

[@jackwhelan3478]

Edelman is such a good story teller

[@JamesSavik]

At this point, Zach Wilson is playing better than Mac Jones.

[@SparkitSpartan]

Very well spoken; I enjoyed Julian’s insight.

[@jayscarz1157]

One of my favorite players ever...ED WAS THE MAN FOR NEW ENGLAND A LITTLE TOUGH SON OF A GUN...

[@IamAndreThompson]

Edelman is just a no nonsense, straightforward kinda person! Gonna miss his plays man, sooooo underrated!

[@lochnessmonster5149]

I remember the 2009 season very well. The Pats got demolished by my Saints 38-17. I watched the game at the Chinese buffet on Camp Foster in Okinawa. It was one of the easiest wins the Brees ever had. 18-23, 371yards, and 5 TDs without breaking a sweat.

[@dangielfrauk8484]

Ok rainman.

[@jjsimmonsfire]

Monday night right?

[@lawrencemalone-px6qe]

Brees always got up for Brady. I hated seeing the saints on the schedule

[@shadydavey511]

I think the person hes refering to was Adalius Thomas

[@travisbickle5829]

You were at a Chinese buffet in Japan???

[@carras00]

That Bruschi story😂😂😂

[@Matt_Boyce]

Fantastic interview. I love hearing the athlete perspective. Jules keeping it real.

[@erosrios3670]

Love how Edelman called the chargers from San Diego

[@gregjonglee]

Wow, what a session with these two! Just awesome honest conversation. Loved the insights of a great football player dedicated to his work and describing one of the greatest football team cultures. Excellent video; the best ever Colin show!

[@chiefskingdom7107]

It’s goofy because Colin forgot to mention it was Travis’s bye week.

[@joosh5566]

If Julian Edelman was in first things first I’d probably be pretty happy

[@verlongates2279]

I didn't KNOW for sure that Stroud would be this good this fast, but it sure seemed to me that from his first year in college, he was the best q.b. in college. And keep in mind, I HATE Ohio State.

[@_WEsTWooD]

Edelman took a lil shot at Randy Moss from ‘09 eh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Blaketv0]

I peeped that also lol

[@deesee2051]

Did this dude just say Herbert didn’t have the talent around him Wtf geesh the media loved making excuses for Herbert Wtf

[@BrunoJaws]

Looking back getting rid of Anthony Lynn was a mistake Steichen was the best OC Herbert had.

[@Basement811]

They should get Ben Johnson

[@bonesriver5786]

THANK YOU @ Julian for mentioning HERNANDEZ ❤❤❤

[@albertmolina1781]

CJ is playing like superstar.

[@madadisr]

8:07 What is Edelman talking about he rarely has to go to his third read???? He's going through so many progressions every game and distributing the ball to every one. His top four targets has between 400 and 650 yards.

[@wilsonkeeler5977]

Met teddy a few times when I worked at guitar center. He was friends with a guy who worked I drums that was teaching him and his kids guitar. Super nice guy

[@oldben1800]

as a buckeye fan...everyone is a hater at some point...theres no need for an apology lol Stroud was the second pick its not like he was underrated.

[@jdawg9137]

I want apologies!!!! Go Bucks

[@FATMANSCOOP88]

As a buckeye yes tf he does deserve an apology

[@oldben1800]

@@FATMANSCOOP88 only apology he needs is from Jim and the boys for stealing wins and a Heisman from him

[@FunGamerFever]

@@oldben1800 Nah an apology is needed for people being biased with that "Ohio State qbs suck" nonsense, saying Young is better than Stroud, he wouldn't last a month in Houston, he was a bust and so on. He proved people wrong

[@chrisbadgett57]

What Edelman thought CJ Stroud would be is exactly what Mac Jones and Bryce young are!!! Easy to look like a NFL ready QB when all of Bama Wrs are 1st and 2nd round picks!!!

[@ryanamis8829]

Apologize to someone selected #2 overall? Every player has their haters and critics.

[@Spliffkage]

That’s usually how it works when somebody is wrong about something or someone

[@Thatfantasyfootballchick]

He was getting a ton of heat

[@SnarkyAdjTv]

Are you a casual or what?

[@sahrogure3256]

I am glad the Texans organization never listened all the bash about CJ being dumb . The Media kept digging dirt on him.

[@twizzy585ots]

I mean it wasn't hard at all to figure out why he apologized, he literally explained why 🤧

[@christfollower122491]

Shoutout to all my back up producers and copy editors

[@SammyA.]

Edelman for Hall of Fame!

[@abdeenabdul7803]

Nico collins is a very good reciever so is tank dell

[@crazestyle83]

It was Trav's bye week cut him some slack 😂

[@gkobi2024]

If anyone owes CJ an apology it’s Colin for saying he isn’t talented enough post draft

[@partridgepimp3363]

I bet hockey players laugh when they hear football talk about the Thursday games. Their schedule is just crazy

[@MarcusCosten]

Colin was looking for Julian to talk negatively about the Pat's coaching staff imo

[@johngalt60]

Cowherd definitely tries to bait whoever he interviews to go along with his opinion.

[@christopheredwards2516]

Mac just doesnt have the mental toughness. In alabama he didnt have to do much with all tht talent. He is who hes always been.

[@ryanwhite9437]

As a chiefs fan, i like julian edelman sooooo much more now that hes retired and not a patriot.

[@jrivas4038]

Its cream season is crazyy! 😂😂😂

[@chrisespinoza7762]

Hall Of Famer. No question. Key Notes: “ cream season “ , “ this is when the cream rises to the top”.

[@elgoose650]

The nuculous lmao

[@jeffreykamke]

Julian and Pat McAfee are the 2 best media personalities

[@marlonking5924]

He needs to be on every week!! Love hear NFL stories. A lot of them have something that you can take and apply to your daily life.

[@christiantotten]

Lol so he has beef with randy????

[@bonesriver5786]

❤ you Julian !!!!!!

[@newvillagefilms]

@18:31... was he referring to Randy Moss? 😂

[@TheeEgyptianQueen]

The PATS are tanking! IMO 😂

[@biozio186]

For who?

[@johngalt60]

This just in, they have for four seasons.

[@TheeEgyptianQueen]

BILL B is old, set in his way, and not the coach he once was, esp w/o TB12.

[@sugareecereviews]

Man I wish it was San Diego

[@drewfoster5030]

When Julian talks football you listen

[@williamrose7818]

Love me some Edelman

[@TheJaker5]

2009?? Edelman was a rookie in 09. Not sure how he could say what he’s saying on this subject.

[@5150pb]

I didnt know that Ben Affleck knew this much about football. LOL

[@RickyAceRozay]

Not a single question about how bad bill is at being a GM lol

[@iambarryallen]

Bryce Young looking like Seth Curry out there not Steph😂

[@wh5027]

" all the super bowl teams were the best teams "....that had me dying with laughter.

[@rayreese8924]

Best locker room but close

[@Jay-nk6dm]

stroud has regularly gotten to his 3rd read. hes seeing the whole field, thats why what hes doing is so impressive.

[@marcoortiz8046]

Love Edelman but at 1:50? WTF. Herbert didn't have the talent around him. No, not completely around him but I'd love to hear how that statement made (at the time) 3 x, Pro Bowl WR Keenan Allen feel or Mike Williams or Austin Ekeler?

[@jesselund360]

Forget Argentina.....hows he gonna explain a heart murmur from that pokepoke

[@TheMexicanJew68]

MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE STAFF

[@RT-far-T]

What's Edelman talking about? Herbert walked into a hyper talented receiver room after he was drafted. Burrow did too. Mahomes did. Of the elite QBs in their mid 20 s or so, only Tua, Allen and Lamar didn't. Lamar still doesn't, but the guy is special. Jones is nowhere near as good as those guys, but let's not pretend he has ever had weapons worth talking about. When you are a game manager type QB, you need weapons. He needs Burrow level weapons.

[@CJfromMEXICO]

herbert has had some of the best weapons in the league his entire career, terrible point julian

[@markbort]

My question would be, why are Ohio State quarterbacks considered overrated because they throw to the best receivers all the time, but Alabama quarterbacks (specifically Bryce Young) are viewed as future franchise quarterbacks when they too are throwing to the best receivers all the time? Tua and Jalen Huluhaslivesports are both doing well, but it's not like Alabama has a long list of amazing NFL quarterbacks. Bart Starr and Joe Namath I suppose. Beyond that, until Tua and Hurts came along, their most successful NFL QB would be Ken Stabler. Not exactly a franchise QB. I just don't understand the narrative. If you want to say Ohio State hasn't had any successful quarterbacks, then ok, it's true that most of the QBs they've produced were lifelong backup quarterbacks. But to argue that it's because they're throwing to the best receivers all the time, but not share that same argument with Bama quarterbacks is just silly.

[@devonwhite2443]

Greg McElroy was the only bama QB to win an NFL game until Mac Jones since like the 80s

[@gummybear41283]

CJ is one of the best QB’s I’ve ever seen. I’ve been watching the NFL since 85.

[@mmartin31796]

The Hernandez comment was wild

[@goodfella8143]

I 100% feel that Mike Tirico doesn't deserve a spot on Sunday night football. They should switch him with al Michael's on Thursday night. The guy doesn't know football, only what's read on the damn scouting report. I think we should start a petition. ....who with me??

[@donywahlberg]

Edelman's line about the coach and the QB getting the blame was spoken directly into the camera directly to all the NE fans and media who continue to talk about OL, WRs, and defensive issues as excuses for Mac.

[@jeremyjs8863]

Edelman always superb.......and on distractions, may I present the case of Dennis Rodman.......it's unusual, but some guys not only can, but also need to be themselves in-season

[@rubencasanova6144]

He said Hernandez!!! Boom

[@MrBezl]

Julian is a HOF person and sports personality. Not a HOF player. That’s still quite the accomplishment

[@scottowens8474]

He should be in the HOF on his playoff accomplishments alone. Much less the 3 superbowls he's been an intrical part of and I believe his regular season numbers are a bit of a hit but he wasn't a starter until yr 4 or 5 and only had a 12 yr career so basically those reception and yds and tds were done in 7 yrs. So taking that into consideration 7 yrs those numbers those playoff numbers. He's bound for the hall eventually not first ballot by any means but I believe he ends up in there.

[@davidleigh443]

If Tb12 stayed with the Pats would have 1000 receptions and be Hof worthy.

[@zeppelinmexicano]

Great stories. Julian has a knack. His takes on the current Patriots should be tapped more as nobody can disect that offense better than he.

[@TheCEOXPerience]

conclusion: if it's not Brady, Bellichik can't coach a QB to succeed

[@TheJaker5]

Certainly not in todays NFL

[@davidnapierkowski6362]

Thank you! That’s exactly my point…poor coaching and roster decisions killed the confidence of a young QB and quite possibly ruined him

[@ericawinfrey2604]

Edelnut from Moss

[@TranslateToEnglish]

Bill Obrien- the most hated man in Houston.