Machine Guns Of World War 1 I THE GREAT WAR Special feat. C&Rsenal

Support Othais on Patreon: / candrsenal
Indy and Othais talk about the different kinds of machine guns that were used during World War 1.
» HOW CAN I SUPPORT YOUR CHANNEL?
You can support us by sharing our videos with your friends and spreading the word about our work.You can also support us financially on Patreon: / thegreatwar
You can also buy our merchandise in our online shop: shop.spreadshirt.de/thegreatwar/
Patreon is a platform for creators like us, that enables us to get monthly financial support from the community in exchange for cool perks.
» WHERE CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WORLD WAR I AND WHERE ELSE CAN I FIND YOU?
We’re offering background knowledge, news, a glimpse behind the scenes and much more on:
reddit: bit.ly/TheGreatSubReddit
Facebook: bit.ly/WW1FB
Twitter: bit.ly/WW1Series
Instagram: bit.ly/ZpMYPL
» CAN I EMBED YOUR VIDEOS ON MY WEBSITE?
Of course, you can embed our videos on your website. We are happy if you show our channel to your friends, fellow students, classmates, professors, teachers or neighbours. Or just share our videos on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc.
We are also happy to get your feedback, criticism or ideas in the comments. If you have interesting historical questions, just post them and we will answer in our OUT OF THE TRENCHES videos. You can find a selection of answers to the most frequently asked questions here: bit.ly/OOtrenches
» CAN I SHOW YOUR VIDEOS IN CLASS?
Of course! Tell your teachers or professors about our channel and our videos. We’re happy if we can contribute with our videos. If you are a teacher and have questions about our show, you can get in contact with us on one of our social media presences.
» WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES?
Videos: British Pathé
Pictures: Mostly Picture Alliance
Background Map: d-maps.com/carte.php?num_car=6...
Literature (excerpt):
Gilbert, Martin. The First World War. A Complete History, Holt Paperbacks, 2004.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
Leonhard, Jörn. Die Büchse der Pandora: Geschichte des Ersten Weltkrieges, C.H. Beck, 2014
If you want to buy some of the books we use or recommend during our show, check out our Amazon Store: bit.ly/AmazonTGW
NOTE: This store uses affiliate links which grant us a commission if you buy a product there.
» WHAT IS “THE GREAT WAR” PROJECT?
THE GREAT WAR covers the events exactly 100 years ago: The story of World War I in realtime. Featuring: The unique archive material of British Pathé. Indy Neidell takes you on a journey into the past to show you what really happened and how it all could spiral into more than four years of dire war. Subscribe to our channel and don’t miss our new episodes every Thursday.
» WHO IS REPLYING TO MY COMMENTS? AND WHO IS BEHIND THIS PROJECT?
Most of the comments are written by our social media manager Florian. He is posting links, facts and backstage material on our social media channels. But from time to time, Indy reads and answers comments with his personal account, too.
The Team responsible for THE GREAT WAR is even bigger:
- CREDITS -
Presented by : Indiana Neidell
Written by: Indiana Neidell
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
Sound: Toni Steller
Mixing, Mastering & Sound Design: www.above-zero.com
Editing: Toni Steller, Julian Zahn
Motion Design: Christian Graef
Research by: Indiana Neidell
Fact checking: Markus Linke
The Great War Theme composed by Karim Theilgaard: bit.ly/karimyt
A Mediakraft Networks Original Channel
Based on a concept by Spartacus Olsson
Author: Indiana Neidell
Visual Concept: David van Stephold
Producer: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Social Media Manager: Florian Wittig
Contains licenced Material by British Pathé
All rights reserved - © Mediakraft Networks GmbH, 2018

[@Jrlomay]

*puts machine gun on table* "She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires-"

[@MausOfTheHouse]

200 dollar custom made cartridges

[@LavitosExodius]

@@MausOfTheHouse na the MG 08 fires 8mm mauser or 7.65 Argentine Mauser. The Lewis can fire .303 Brit, .30-06, 8mm Mauser,& 7.62x54r. The MP18 can fire 9x19 Para "9mm Luger", 7.63x25 Mauser, & 7.65x21 Para. All of those cartridges can be found for sale commercially.

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@LavitosExodius you see, the 200$ part is from a game

[@lamoxd3813]

@@LavitosExodius woosh

[@upengraden3792]

@@LavitosExodius this is a reference to "Meet the Heavy", a promo for a character in the FPS game Team Fortress 2

[@ADRay1999]

C&Rsenal and Forgotten weapons, in my opinion are the best firearm history channels on KZbin.

[@willisaw135]

I agree with you.

[@rexretolosa8978]

hickock 45

[@ThunderBuddy]

Yes and I think that because they are not biased in anyway. They are all about the history.

[@hquiller]

@@rexretolosa8978 Nope. Although I like hickok45, he just shoot and talk a little about the gun. FW and C&R show the mechanics and detailed historyof the weapons.

[@stevep5408]

Suckass

[@michellearmstrong3938]

In all honesty this is the people the BBC should have went to for WW1 uncut

[@neilwilson5785]

So right. WW1 uncut was a bit terrible.

[@michellearmstrong3938]

@@neilwilson5785 just a "tad" bit terrible? Most the information was nulled down to basic information you should have known & not to mention that they tried to keep it hip & relevant with dubstep. It showed very little respect in one episode about barbed wire as it used a cutesy cartoon to demonstrate it. The lack of respect that would have been seen by someone like me was horrifying imo

[@Daylon91]

With Dan snow? Lol

[@medlawar8645]

@@michellearmstrong3938 i have ptsd because that music

[@robainsworth2014]

The BBC are too busy intentionally spreading lies

[@AaronB99999]

3:15 When I was in the US army I thought it was hilarious that the M60 machine gun had a tripod that you could lock the gun into and dial up the right deflection and elevation to hit pre-designated targets. Almost certainly never been used, and no doubt the Army and the manufacturer put a ton of work into development and testing.

[@mikep3180]

I'm a simple man , I see an MP18 I click

[@MrPaul-bn9cl]

Real men click for the MG 08 son!

[@realitymatters8720]

hehe

[@stsk7]

lol turns out I aswell am a simple man. this made me laugh

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Do you mean you click when you see an MP18 or an MP18 I?

[@fenderfetish]

That's why I'm here 😎

[@HappyChonger]

I'd like to add a little note on the Lewis gun teams. In the book, Forgotten Voices of the Great War, Harry Patch says this, " There were five of us in a Lewis team. Number one carried the gun and a revolver. I had a bag lined with all the spare parts, which went over the shoulder. This bag of spares, which we could almost build a gun from, weighed as much as the gun. You had that to struggle along with as well as your full pack. The gun had a tripod, which folded up for carrying, and which I also had to take. Number three, four and five were loaders. As number two I had a revolver as well. Three, four and five had the Lee-Enfield rifle. These three carried four loaded magazines, even when we left the front line to go into reserve" I'm not saying this is how they all worked, it's just one mans recollection ( many decades after the event) of being number two in a five man Lewis gun team.

[@kevingooley9628]

Can't remember the title, but years ago I read a narrative account of the US incursion into Archangel in 1919. They also referenced the Lewis guns being a 5 man team, Gunner, loader, and 3 mag carriers, who also provided protection for the gun.

[@cecilysarson4045]

thank you. quoting this in my coursework.

[@LafayetteCCurtis]

This was nothing weird. The Lewis gun team was one of the precursors to the structure of World War II infantry squads centred around the light machine gun. It's still very common for regular riflemen today to carry a belt or two of LMG/SAW ammunition.

[@jeffreaves6107]

Your series is the best most comprehensive,extensive/ inclusive series ever conducted. This endeavor is amazing in it's scope and I applaud it. The First World War and it's lead up of late 19th/early 20th century wars has captivated me for about half my life since an early teen. This series has beaten all others. I hope it will be out on DVD, I'm old school, WW1 interests me, so go figure .. I want a hard copy. Keep up the excellent work your nearly done.

[@hquiller]

I watch a few videos of the Great War everyday. There are so many thank I think I'll never watch all of them. TGW and C&Rsenal are two of my top 5 history/gun channels. Of course, Forgotten Weapons, InRange and hickok45 are the other three.

[@averageconsumer0]

"stopped by enemy machine guns" you can hear this phrase 100s of times in this channel sadly...

[@sergeantscumbag2116]

The ATF are sweating watching this guy

[@budknight5773]

Sergeant Scumbag *sweats nervously*

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

they are flipping through their procedure manual, seeing if they do or don't shoot Guinea Pigs.

[@timetimesfive9251]

They got paid their happy

[@Legitpenguins99]

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography NO! Not Crozier ;-;

[@JO3BID3N-is-a-P3D0]

the atf are domestic terrorists who attacked usa citizens in the 90's

[@jemc4276]

I really hope you hit the 1m sub's before the Armistice.

[@silentt8161]

the what? what are you talking about?

[@jemc4276]

@@silentt8161 This "The Great War" channel achieving 1,000,000 KZbin Subscribers before the 11th of November 2018 which will be the 100th year anniversary of the Armistice declaration time. Clear enough?

[@silentt8161]

what armistice

[@MeowMeowDeathRay]

Not before the spring offensive the war ain't gonna end.

[@yourarseismine1016]

@@silentt8161 Jesus christ kid.

[@digitalbrentable]

Indy in the trenches at 13:00, on the right!

[@davidvonkettering204]

I don't know Indy, Othias nor Mae personally, but all three have made me a happy man. The Great War crew and Anvil22 are extraordinary! Flo, I give you my regards and hope someday you and Indy could again collaborate on a series. Priceless assets to the world all! Love, David

[@Masada1911]

David vonKettering Such a wholesome comment. Love it.

[@MaxwellBenson80]

Such a fantastic video!! Thank you both for your awesome channels! As a former gunner (m240b) I thoroughly enjoyed watching this. Keep the great videos coming!!!

[@williamvanhuss8452]

I think you killed me in bf1 recently. I recognized the logo.

[@Niffyahs]

Was it on xbox? Same thing happened to me around August

[@Niffyahs]

@the Prussian Nationalist wdym "lol"

[@vismayballal7011]

Haha lol

[@somebody3143]

Haven’t watched u in a minute Indy, but you and Othias do an EXCELLENT job, mate! Honestly, I have been watching your entire series, in chronological order. I just want to say thank you very much and much respect for all of your hard, educational and entertaining work!

[@mikedertouzos908]

That guy has one heck of a collection and I am extremely jealous. Just ook at all that history....

[@davec5153]

The germans were mostly fighting a defensive war on the western front, which is why they had far less casualties than the allies, who were sending waves of infantry at the German lines.

[@porcelaenstaender9314]

Yes! I've been waiting for this for quite some time. WW1 machine guns deserve some lovin, too.

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

I'm subbed to c&rcenal.. I've watch most of his videos.. he's awesome.

[@GG-ns4st]

Thank you for this historical coverage and awesome expertise. Very interesting

[@VersusARCH]

Balkan armies, Turkey and Italy also got a lot of valuable XP with machine guns before WW1 in the 1911. Italo-Turkish and the 1912-13. Balkan Wars.

[@NotTheCIA1961]

"And generally annoying or killing them" The section on MG IDF had me laughing so hard

[@indianajones4321]

Machine guns

[@mickvanderh.2948]

Yis

[@CrossOfBayonne]

My fav is the browning 17 its lighter and more reliable

[@Seadog7981]

Guns.

[@oddballsok]

(Matrix) " Maschiiiiiiiineesssss"

[@tuuperware]

snug enihcaM

[@Huntertainment1]

Dude, thank you for this video. Your collection is amazing.

[@rodneymckenna6197]

Wasn't a huge fan of the C&Rsenal cameos at first, mainly because I couldn't really understand most of the lingo and mechanics. But after watching several of these episodes, they've become the most interesting and informational. Keep it up y'all, this show just keeps getting better and better. You guys are making a whole generation more aware and educated and it's so entertaining too!

[@WildBillCox13]

Another collaboration! Woot@Indy and Othais!

[@Lt_Fryes]

Ever since I saw an MP-18 on Othias' wall, I have been waiting for this episode!

[@alastair9446]

South Africa was hit and run tactics, used a lot of horses so getting a machine gun in the right place was difficult.

[@camjam8367]

I know so much about guns because of y’all. My sister told her bf about it & he suggested that I join the Air Force. My dad is impressed about all the guns I know about. Again, that’s because of you guys. Y’all are amazing.

[@frankmenchaca9993]

Enjoy your series very much. You did an episode where some British soldiers became famous later on. Please do one on Harry Truman, Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, Dwight Eisenhower and others who became famous later on in life.

[@montoyagerardo]

I love your show!!!! You guys are amazing!!! I feel so geeky… lol

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Wow just picturing this grizzly bear just hefted a 40lb machine gun while in a chair like he was grabbing a water bottle

[@naominekomimi]

Could you do an episode on unusual weapons? Stuff like the caltrop on Indy's desk - weapons that are more creative and unique (and potentially more brutal) than the typical weapons that come to mind when thinking of the great war.

[@ArcturusOTE]

Ahh machine guns, the bane of any infantry crossing the battlefield, and a key component of any military formation. I can't imagine how battles would turn out had these been banned in war conventions following TGW.....

[@Edax_Royeaux]

Well, certainly tanks would stop being practical if they only had semi-automatic guns to defend themselves against infantry. And a fighter dogfight could last 10x longer if their only using single shot and most ships would be utterly incapable of defending themselves from bombers without automatic AA guns. To be honest, I don't think any military would bother following the convention since it would be too impractical.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

Landmines never forgive either

[@deandennison4687]

One country would "ignore" said ban and make them anyway. Humans are not very honest if you haven't noticed.

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

​@Tomi Tuominen Inter arma enim silent leges

[@dossiebigham6916]

that and snipers

[@sonbutters]

Great war special at 5:30am an hour before university? Why not! You guys have a great day so far?

[@kingjonny394]

you have university on a weekend?

[@Damo2690]

At 630am?

[@sonbutters]

@@kingjonny394 yep, had some test I missed and needed to take them because I was gone away for a bit

[@HistoryBoy]

Great video! + I wish my intro was that great!

[@gnarshread]

I just wish this episode wan another hour and a half longer!

[@TtotheG]

...But Battlefield 1 told me automatic pistols, rifles, and submachine guns were the staple of at least 1/2 of all soldiers...

[@benhadaway3322]

I was really wanting to see some test firing on this episode. :(

[@JoeyP322]

Another excellent channel !!! Unbelievably full of information!! Love it!!!

[@javienguyen8547]

SLAYED

[@kcirtapnosllem960]

Cool video

[@thechad6501]

I like the french ones, different system of the maxims. But you did not talk of them

[@huru2guru]

He also forgot about Austrian-Hungarian heavy machine gun Schwarzlose, which also uses different system from "Maxim family" of guns.

[@kimjongun505]

I didnt know kermit played with ww1 machine guns

[@migue1ebc]

Missing the Mondragón Rifle, hopefully you guys can review this rifle

[@icostaticrebound6007]

Hey C&Rsenal, I’ve been looking to buy any WW1 gun for a while now but in specific the Mauser Gewehr 98 (because I have a friend who recommends it). Where can I buy one? Thanks!

[@laughingsnake1989]

Online sites like GunBroker or in person gunshows

[@kstreet7438]

I love this guy.

[@Patrick_3751]

13:54, the audio and video fell out of sync during the MP-18 closeups.

[@adambartlett7955]

Indy seemed a bit hungover or something in that intro lol, love that dude

[@LukeBunyip]

As always, Beardy rocks 😉

[@kilroy8263]

The mp18 is great in Verdun.

[@mattfairfield9103]

The Lewis gun was used in Star Wars A New Hope as a heavy blaster for stormtroopers xD

[@chrislefroy1034]

From what I've read, Australian Lewis gun teams were 4 man, 1 gunner, 1 loader and 2 riflemen who also carried spare ammo, and covered the flanks. All members were trained to use the gun though, so if the gunner was hit, then next in line could take over. Apparently this forward thinking was unusual in the day, and most countries crews were only trained in their role!

[@fookinlit9586]

Not necessarily the Australians were trained by the British and American sponsors

[@chrislefroy1034]

@@fookinlit9586 The US didnt adopt the Lewis until 1917, 2 years after the Brits and Aussies began using them. Brit trainers taught Australians initially, then training was done by Australian or British training units. Lewis units were 9 man sections. Gunner, Assistant/ loader, section leader, 2 scouts, a backup assistant who stuck close to the gunner and loader, and 3 regular riflemen. The sectio carried around 28- 30 magazines between them. And all section members were trained gunners. When the US arrived in 1917 they were often placed with Australian or Canadian units to learn from then.

[@fookinlit9586]

@@chrislefroy1034 The us sponsored both world wars and sold weapons to all sides, but wanting the Allies to win, the us generals and knowledge of the power of machine guns in the core of experienced men were training everybody. and volunteering under all allied flags to actually fight. The gained everything for awhile financially from both wars, and Australia was a puppet alongside the uk and really the world.

[@turbowolf302]

Just hearing him talk about the MG08 and its use made me pause this and pull up Sabaton's Price of A Mile in another tab, before continuing.

[@p0wedbox317]

anyone else hear "yep" at 9:33 ? hes probably being guided in what to say.

[@jpegwithallthecrust2649]

The "I" in the MP18, I is a "1" in roman numerals. also great videos

[@CountArtha]

I always assumed the _I_ was added when the MP 18(I) served concurrently with the MP 28(II) between World Wars. Same gun; different magazine. You don't want to ship one type of magazine to a unit that has the opposite type of gun, so the Roman numeral would be an easy, at-a-glance way to tell them apart.

[@WickedTester176]

How the heck did you get a MP18? I want one!

[@nirfz]

3:54 - 4:08 and the A-H Empire with the Schwarzlose.

[@mpwilderman]

Hey Indy where did you get your kukri?

[@brendenwymer3976]

What's the time difference between indie and othias? Cause isn't indie in Belgium right now?

[@jacksonmacpherson6101]

Question for out of the trenches (that othias kind of mentioned) Why are french weapons and equipment so alien and foreign? Their machinguns seem very different from the average "another maxim" design of ww1 and the berthier rifle is just so odd. Thanks, love the show

[@MeowMeowDeathRay]

Go watch Forgotten Weapons video on Ian's new book on french rifles. He explained it there.

[@CountArtha]

The French didn't want to rely on the Maxim because it was a water-cooled gun and many of their colonial forces would be fighting in the North African desert. As for the Bertier, it used the same cartridge as the 1886 Lebel, which was actually just a necked-down 11mm. In order to have a flush-fitting magazine, they had to limit the rifle to three rounds instead of five.

[@nickfay2359]

I have had a chance to fire a 1917 browning. I was suprised at how slow its rate of fire was, but i decimated everything i fired bursts at.

[@fenderfetish]

13:55 there seems to be a sync issue?

[@willyou2199]

When the officers tell their troops a gun is worth much more than the man operating it, says quite abit.

[@timetimesfive9251]

So what class is the chauchat and BAR? Automatic rifles are machine guns

[@mariorossi3898]

I think you should have shown and presented the two main sub machine gun of WWI both of them Italians, like: the OVP 1918 (produced in 1918 by Villar Perosa) and the Beretta Model 1918 (that you quickly mentioned). These two are most likely the first sub machine gun in WWI, (and very efficient), if we exclude the Fiat mod. 1915 “Villar Perosa”.

[@jimjames6074]

They probably didn't have one on hand

[@willisaw135]

I love the machine guns during the WW1.

[@deeznutz5825]

he didn't mention the viler perosa was cut in half and set in a stock

[@falsedavidbowie368]

I love how Othais casually picks up the nearly 60lb Vickers Gun and places it on his table

[@kristofersozo464]

wow! I have watched all The great war episodes until this waited for an episode about machine guns! Thank You! :)

[@iu2297]

Class

[@shallahistorychannel4387]

The grat war and c&rsenal in the same video? Is this heaven?

[@datadavis]

Othaiais rules

[@WildBillCox13]

Indy: get some sleep. We'll forgive the lapse. ;-) And-Hi Flo!

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

How effective was the browing B.A.R on the battlefield?

[@CountArtha]

We'll never know, because General Pershing kept it a secret until the planned Spring 1919 offensive which never took place. It wasn't used in large numbers until World War II, by which time it was pretty mediocre.

[@synkkamaan1331]

5:55 Looks like Daniel Craig on left closest MG.

[@SomeoneBoreing]

I love the lewis gun in call of duty world war 2

[@podemosurss8316]

The American tried to use Gattling machine guns during the Spanish-American war, but Spanish artillery and rifle fire often supressed them before they could be used effectively.

[@terraspent]

er bruhh! should those pc speakers be next to that monitor?

[@Jmj__]

No BAR? No hotchkiss, vickers or 1917 browning?

[@Mika-fl5vq]

There are the Martiny Henry cool

[@nachomuchacho1640]

I love big old guns. No pun intended.

[@willyou2199]

penises

[@CloseUp1961]

What was the attitude in the Great War as to the use of the shotgun in the trenches?

[@heavypupper1219]

It was an effective trench clearing gun, much like the submachine gun but the Germans thought that the pellets caused unnecessary suffering so they tried to file a lawsuit against it which failed.

[@chriswatson4430]

Today I subscribe.

[@papamauryc2300]

sad the chauchat wasent here :(. Even tho it was one of the most hated guns on the battlefield, its still kind of an icon for the French army producing 250 000 of these

[@holdencaulfield5375]

What will you guys go after November the 11th

[@sn0lder]

sad they didnt feature the madsen

[@ShinobiHOG]

Are you guys going to cover the Russian Civil war after the great war ends? What are the plans?

[@knightshousegames]

That SMG looks almost identical to the Russian PPSH, do they share some sort of lineage?

[@TheN9nth]

Most SMGs up till the 60s where based somewhat on the MP-18 so there is alot of crossover.

[@alecubudulecu]

About plane mounted MG’s. The need to avoid shooting through propeller. Spoiler / they didn’t. They shot through propellor for years. They would cover propellor with metal to not shred it. And yes sometimes it’s break through or bounce back and kill pilot in either case. The Germans developed first solid timing mechanisms.

[@JKHERPS]

999k subs, close to 1 mil

[@nickfay2359]

I agree andrew..wonderful stuff!!

[@dand4139]

He got a new mic, woo hoo

[@neilmackay5655]

Previous episode about tanks: they had trouble with the machine guns sucking the air out (or something close to that) Current episode: the lewis gun creates a vacuum to draws air over the barrel. ... 💡

[@swamptalkpodcast8744]

Sound got off lag at around 14:00

[@giorgiociaravolol1998]

The Beretta guns were used few months before their german counterparts. The Villar Perosa would eventually become an aircraft gun

[@pmccoy8924]

Hiram Maxim, born in Maine, died in Great Britain. Invented a gun that German's used to kill millions of both.

[@Aviationlord7742]

*LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED*

[@AgxntOrange]

praise the lord

[@mwnciboo]

Chank chank chank...Our lord and saviour T- chan-ka

[@mitchellbancroft323]

The weapons are cool, but what of the men? How did one become a machine gunner or part of the crew? What were the psychological effects of being on the crew?

[@tenghiskhan2063]

I like machine guns, see a problem, fix the problem, that’s what they do, and that’s what I like