Machining a Bolt Circle Using Milltronics Conversational Programming

[@rustyblair7515]

What makes Adam so good... he knows machining, welding (all types), machine repair, hell he is 3rd gen trained from the literal ground floor (sweeping out chips) to now a master machinist. To add his growing CNC capabilities is great feather in the cap for him. His vast knowledge in machines is a trust for the CNC vendors as well as him. Good Job Adam.

[@AnonVideos]

Adam, it is good when you make a small mistake and then go thru the troubleshooting steps! A lot of people don’t understand just how helpful this is

[@MurlWatne-io2bo]

Its not a competition between old school n cnc. They both have their place.

[@jackperisho3111]

Thank you for sharing your growth and exposing yourself to criticism. You’re a good man.

[@gmaxson50]

You're always learning, even on easy jobs.

[@fredgoldman6390]

Been a long time viewer and subscriber found you by stumbling through KZbin late at night I am not a machinist but I like watching you it's very satisfying to see the finished work so the heck with what anybody says keep up the good work

[@ronnydowdy7432]

😮 You already know how to do the jobs using the manual machines but learning to use the CNC machine will come in handy when you need to make a hundred of those parts. Setup, program,tooling go. I think it good to teach a old dog new tricks.

[@jimdean7335]

Enjoying climbing the learning curve with you. You seem to get some criticism of doing cnc vs manual maching. It must be hard to read that stuff but life is not about resting on your laurels. I’ll always watch your content.

[@higginsjimmyjh]

LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL MACHING AND LIKE THE NEW CNC AS WELL, DONT LIKE HIS COOKING CHANNEL... I ALWAYS GET HUNGRY WHEN I WATCH'EM... AS FOR THE NEW CNC WORK ABOM HAS NEVER SAID HE IS A EXPORT (YET).. SO FOR THEM WHO DON T LIKE IT I CAN ONLY SAY DONT WATCH. MYSELF LIKE LEARNING NEW THINGS TOO , BUT WHAT I LOVE ABOUT ABOM IS HE KEEPS IT REAL AND EXPLAINS THINGS IN SIMPLE ENGLISH..

[@andrewstoll4548]

People seem to not care that he is trying to run a business and make a living.

[@doublepenn5732]

The Muppets complaining about the content have yet to evolve. They are standing on buckets while we are all using ladders. Using blue and scribing is cool and all...... Mastering software and having a robot produce the part is ecstasy.

[@spikeypineapple552]

@@andrewstoll4548 KZbin is his business lmao.

[@andrewstoll4548]

It may be part of his business. But he could still be doing the machining without KZbin. But he wouldn't have much KZbin without the machining.

[@M5888-z3w]

You are a joy to watch keep enjoying your self you do have a contagious smile when you are having fun

[@Darryl603]

Awesome job! Don't ever feel like you need to hurry or rush your work.

[@AnonVideos]

As others have noted, doing one with CNC isn’t necessarily the fastest method, but doing 50 is a big help. The purpose of these videos is increasing knowledge. CNC is a major new toolset and will undoubtedly be very helpful going forward. I think as the programming interface becomes more streamlined and smart, this will become more accessible to people. It is still improving rapidly. Thanks Adam for being willing to try new things and teach others! This keeps all of our minds sharp 😊

[@michaelpatrick6950]

When I managed a multi disciplinary engineering group, I had 2 draftsmen who could do manual drafting but not CAD. One bought his own copy of AutoCad and taught himself how to use it. The said he was content to remain using traditional drafting tools. Over a couple of years I only had about 10-15 hours a week of work for the latter guy. The first guy got 40 hours and even a few hours of OT. Someone who knows both the old and new techniques is always more valuable.

[@Iamtherodlight1453.]

Thank you, sir brother all that good stuff I am addicted to your videos. I watch them while I am doing my drafting in 3-D. Love it thank you for sharing. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. In my next lifetime, I will be a machinist.

[@joelmcallister9248]

Thank you for all the sharing you do. I really appreciate the details you give for each job.

[@johannglaser]

Amazing, thanks for this demonstration. Very well done! I've been waiting for that! Please show this conversational programming more often. Perhaps also with the FlexCNC.

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thanks man with the BIG SMILE

[@CarnivoreCurin]

This one is interesting. I'd like to see more of this. Make no mistake, I like the manual way.

[@phildegruy9295]

It's great to take time to make small programs like this. Pretty soon you can use these base setups to knock out other similar parts or machine operations with slight changes in program.

[@williegillie5712]

Looks like you’re getting the milltronics figured out. Conversation is a good way to check yourself before committing to run the job. I’m learning a lot from it Adam, thanks

[@joemartin3342]

Adam, you can really run that machine.

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing Adam Enjoyed

[@7th_dwarf542]

so nice to see how you've taken a plunge to rent this new machine shop and learned a new trade, which is CNC 👏

[@pauls4708]

I am not a machinist nor do i do any metal work but i still find your content interesting

[@dougmottert2258]

Great Job, You are learning fast .

[@Crusadermachining]

Good job on learning programming. It can be a huge paradigm shift going from manual to CNC

[@moanabeach]

Hiya, from The Sunny Coast, Queensland 🇦🇺 love and look forward to your videos, I used to work for Mitsubishi Australia, when we had a manufacturing industry, in the foundry and machine shop, great therapy to watch your work, love it, cheers 🍻 if you’re ever in Queensland say g’day Thanks Steve

[@89firebird]

Thanks for the upload Adam keep up the good work

[@Maxwelhouser66]

Loved that you showed us how to set up the program. Wanna see more of that!!!!

[@SuperKnewman]

1 minute after release i watched all the 35 mionutes already. Great video my man.

[@CA10Z]

Flanges with facings harkens me back to my Millwright/ welding days. Kind of gave me a chill

[@RobertGracie]

Thanks Adam for this awesome video, always good to get out some CNC milling!

[@tmenzella]

$500,000 worth of machines to make a $25 part. I long to hear the Monarch at the home shop. Still #1 machine Chanel

[@CrimFerret]

For parts like this, conversational is the way to go. There's nothing wrong with doing prechecking of the program either. Better that than crashing the spindle.

[@angelramos-2005]

Very sccessfuly done,Adam.Thank you.

[@JamieP.354]

I remember laying out a bolt circle by wedging a piece of wood into the I.D. and using dividers to determine the center of the piece. Then using the diameter, drawing the circle using Blue dye. Then the task was to determine the distance between the holes and mark them using the dividers. I miss working with my brother and the owner of that little shop.

[@armageddontools]

Its even more easier with a lathe ,you just use sharp tool like threading knife to score the line by using toolpost. Usually its a last step you do when part is on dimensions.

[@Juha.R]

Very good work I loved it Good to have You to learn others! All the best to you 👌👌👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️

[@dennistennyson4540]

Adam when I was in business I had many mods just like this one. The chamfering I always did on the drill press because that was the best way to do it.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

Cordless drills now seem to be the most popular way to chamfer holes.

[@stevebumstead9840]

Well done Adam.

[@stanbrow]

Fascinating. Thank you

[@ZylonFPV]

That machine would be amazing if you had to make 30 of those

[@philhunt9297]

But to make 30 without fault you have to first learn and then practice then tweak I get those that criticize and say "it'll be quicker the manual way" but I also applaud [excuse the term Adam) 'teaching an old dog new tricks' Adam could nail that bolt hole manually probably blindfolded [except the checking of dimensions/centreing] but he aint learning new stuff. If he gets the experience/knowledge he can run the CNC bulk jobs whilst also doing a one off jobs on any of the non automated machines = more $ and potentially more videos

[@matsbengtsson3756]

Try entering "diameter/2" on the programming page to get radius. It works on many cnc machines. I use conversational programming mostly for my hobby cnc mill. It is just a lot faster for simple jobs.

[@bigchrish1975]

Rule of thumb is for 118° drills you must add 1/3 the diameter to the depth so the point breaks through all the way to the full diameter. Your original. 125 was not enough.

[@garychaiken808]

Great job. Thank you 😊

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

Very nice work sir

[@TheMaddogronh]

Thanks for the video,, But I must say I miss your old lead in music.

[@ilaril]

Tool Tuesday has a different music than SNS.

[@NavinBetamax]

A request.......please do a video visit of the property you bought and were planning to develop.......been a long time now, please.

[@peto22]

I'm not a machinist, but years ago I ended up machining electrical equipment frames in my job. With the old Hurco KMB1 mill, you could do programs like this in 15-20 seconds. The new machine seems to be unnecessarily complicated.

[@zorbakaput8537]

That is just so funny.

[@ajmiller7102]

It appears that a 3-jaw chuck would be useful for use with the mill tronic for this and similar projects.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

Yes probably easier than swapping the jaws on the vise and tramming it in.

[@rowlandcrew]

That was a nice demo of the conversational programming. I would request for completeness and debugging to show the program listing (all the events) to see how it looks and reads on milltronics. your discussion of all the settings you needed to set and not set is the kind of information that is useful for more than only milltronics because it demonstrates process.

[@ZylonFPV]

That CNC seems super efficient and quick

[@renetr6771]

In Mazatrol or ShopMill, this programm would take one minute to write - and even in EIA ISO it would be less than 5 minutes. But nevertheless, for people who doing their first steps in CNC programming or don't use the CNC every day, this Controller is still good by giving you some advices and suggestions. HSCO - Drill bits from Guering, Type A520 or A510 (7xD) don't need a spot drill, like carbide drills - but im not sure if it are awailable in the US.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

Prototrak 18 seconds including unload position.

[@renetr6771]

@@machinists-shortcuts If u have a CAD Model. If not, u have to read and type some numbers - and the programs name too. I have seen Prototrak. You should look what Mazatrol can do without CAD ^^

[@paulmace7910]

I think you will find that the conversational programming will come in handy for what you do. Some other creators use it a lot for some really complicated stuff. Keep after it. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

[@cskovach]

Conversational's utility really starts to diminish after you learn how to use CAM efficiently. The other drawback of it is that you generally can't program something else while the machine is running. With CAM I am programming OP2 while the machine is still running OP1, so it's not sitting there waiting for me to type in parameters.

[@SUMOCAT86]

@@cskovach Which conversational can't program while running? Mazatrol, Okuma, Siemens, even Heidenhain 155 which is from the 80's can.

[@kindabluejazz]

bolt hole + spot + drill + chamfer should be a built in program. The diameter and thickness was already determined when probing. Shouldn't need to re-enter anything more than once. A wizard could ask any questions, like what kind of material, do you want chamfer, do you want tapping etc.

[@firesurfer]

I like those little gold colored dogs instead of toe clamps.

[@keitheagle4633]

It's good to see the master make mistakes makes me feel a lot better how about the mistakes I make🎉

[@GlennNowOnYouTube]

Its not good to see anyone make a mistake. Ever.

[@Dans-hobbies]

Adam, It wouldn't work well for the part or work holding setup you showed, but it is possible to chamfer the top and bottom of the holes with one setup. If the part, and setup allows, you can use a doble angle chamfer cutter with interpolation to chamfer the top and bottom of the hole.

[@michaelboyle4553]

Thank you

[@tonyn3123]

From experience with my small wood CNC, I am quickly understanding the logic in the programming. Everything makes sense and I well understand how easily it is to forget one step. My question: are your machines capable of very close tolerances such as constantly maintaining 0.0001" tolerance, or does it require more specialized machines? Thanks.

[@2testtest2]

0.0001" tolerance on parts is insane for any mill. That takes not only a high precision mill, but a climate controlled environment and extra high precision tooling to nail every time. 0.001" on the other hand I would think at least for positioning of the tool, it's probably that good or better, but you still have to take into account tool deflection, tool wear, tool runout, temperature etc. If you are going to churn out parts within 0.001" all day.

[@cskovach]

@@2testtest2 nailed it. there are so many variables that come into play at that level of precision that tolerances start to become extremely subjective.

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

Even without a dro on a manual machine it's hard to see that this would be any quicker.

[@marley589]

What's the idea with the chuck for countersinking? Did it really need to be clamped 4 times? Flat on the table will do or just spun around on the chuck.

[@marley589]

Why 2 marks on the part to set in the vise. Do you need just one or any at all?

[@jeanfouchet2196]

Hi Adam ! Sorry but I never understood how the machine can know the extrimity of the drill (and differents tools) ! I perfectly understand the adjustement with the rubis but after ? You had to give specials informations to the machine in fonction of the differents sizes of the tools you used ? Thanks for your answers. Greetings from france.

[@fungas4804]

Great stuff! ain't no shame in putting a pencil in the collet to test a program :p [edit] I have a spring-loaded pencil, especially useful for drawing out circuit boards...

[@DimasFajar-ns4vb]

wow and zamzam water

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Nice job, Adam! Let me pose a hypothetical addition to your program. This is only to illustrate something that you might need in a future project, not a real suggestion for this project. You said that your blanks for this project weren't totally flat. Of course this is very common. In this project, you decided to do some chamfering on a second machine because you didn't know exactly the z value of the work piece at each hole. There might be future jobs where it would be better to do everything on one setup. If I recall, you used a Renishaw probe on your workpiece after mounting to determine the approximate height. How about having a helper program that, given the positions of the holes, used the probe to measure the actual z values? I don't know how your software works, but it must be possible somehow for the big program to dump a table of (x,y)positions for the holes and then have the probe build a table of z values. I'm trying to make this really simple, as I don't know how this CNC software does these kinds of things. Again, this is just a way for me to suggest something that you might find useful in the future. You did really well here.

[@platin2148]

Question does milltronics run windows on there maschines?

[@firesurfer]

Straight from google; ''Yes, some Milltronics machines run on Windows, including the 9000-DGI Series control. The 9000-DGI Series is a Windows-based platform that includes a 15-inch LCD touch screen, 120 GB of disk storage, and 4 GB of memory. It also has a G-code visualization screen and other user-friendly features. Milltronics also offers the Digital Generation Interface (DGI) Desktop Software, which is designed to run on Windows PCs.''

[@trollforge]

Adam, have you seen adamthemachinist's video Thread-milling without a hole? It might be the solution to your CNC Tap breakage issue.

[@tarouyamada2686]

Always learning, always improving 🤙. Although, if you told me to learn G-Code, I would probably just nope right out 😅 Off-topic, that's a patriotic flexarm. What's the process used to apply the image to the base arm? Very complex shape, water dipping? 🤔

[@firesurfer]

Has to be dipped, I don't see any other way.

[@mike5805]

Hey Adom, I was watching one of your old shaper videos when you had that gummy bl9ck of steel figuring out what tool works better. I was wondering if carbide would work on the shaper. If watched you with the high speed steel and I know if carbide would work, you would be using it. Just wondering what carbide would do. Keep the videos coming brother

[@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994]

Carbide is fragile and doesn't like impact or interrupted cuts so not really a good option for Shaper tools.

[@wolpumba4099]

*Summary* * *(**0:00**)* *Project:* The video demonstrates how to machine a bolt circle into a steel clamping ring using a Milltronics TRM3016 CNC mill with conversational programming. * *(**0:14**)* *Manual vs. CNC:* The video compares the pros and cons of machining the bolt circle manually vs. using the CNC mill, noting that setup time is similar but the CNC machining process is much faster. * *(**8:12**)* *Conversational Programming:* The video provides a step-by-step walkthrough of how to use Milltronics' conversational programming to create a program for drilling the bolt circle. This includes defining stock size, selecting tooling (spot drill and 1/2" drill), setting speeds and feeds, and defining the bolt circle parameters (diameter, number of holes, angle of the first hole). * *(**13:57**)* *Verification and Testing:* The video emphasizes using the built-in verification feature to check the program before running it and then demonstrates a test run in the air (with the Z-axis raised) to ensure proper tool paths. * *(**21:25**)* *Real-World Machining:* After the successful test, the actual machining is shown, including using coolant and highlighting the chip breaking action of the drill. * *(**29:52**)* *Deburring and Chamfering:* The video concludes with deburring the holes manually using a flex arm and a chamfering tool. * *(**32:20**)* *Key Takeaway:* The video illustrates the efficiency and ease of using conversational programming on a Milltronics CNC mill for simple machining tasks like bolt circles, even for those still learning the nuances of the software. I used Google Gemini 1.5 Pro exp 0801 to summarize the transcript. Cost (if I didn't use the free tier): $0.0744 Time: 21.50 seconds Input tokens: 19136 Output tokens: 704

[@IvanStepaniuk]

Looks pretty primitive compared to a modern CAM setup with CAMWorks, Fusion, etc. maybe OK for very simple things? It'd seems that it's a lot to learn that is very specific to this machine's controller.

[@MattOGormanSmith]

It looks about the same work as doing it in CAD, and you're doing it standing up right at the machine. The only downside is if this part is then used in a complex assembly and you'd have to put it in CAD again anyway. It'd be nice if the library of parts you program conversationally could be simply imported into the CAD machine too. I think a conversational UI on a lathe could be even better than CAD with easy access to threading cycles etc, although I think it'd be a wash if you were highly proficient in your CAD (or if that was someone else's job) My mill and PC are networked, but I still use the sneakernet with filenames and tool numbers in my head. I wish I had a nice conversational UI on my mill too. My mill runs LinuxCNC as its controller so I could set that up

[@DRrandomman22]

The milltronics are I wouldn't say a "budget" machine but more budget friendly then a hurco they are owned by hurco or the company that owns hurco. But the milltronics uses a simpler version of the hurco conversational programming that is really good. cam is great if you have a solid model to work from but most jobs i can program the same speed on the hurco controller then on fusion or esprit. it really comes down to the jobs you are running and if you need to do a lot of programming.

[@tankerboysabot]

All the time taking to set this up for one part had me wondering if it would have been faster to lay it out by hand and manually drill it?

[@karlc8808]

More fun this way.

[@tankerboysabot]

@karlc8808 I get that, and I get it for the channel content, I just figure it would be much faster to layout by hand and drill.

[@spikeypineapple552]

@@tankerboysabot If you only ever do what's quicker, you'll never use CNC when you have a manual mill available.

[@armageddontools]

@@spikeypineapple552 CNC machines are wonderfull for solving complex problems ,but people use them these days for everything,same way we forgot to do math by brain since you have calculator everywhere.Lathe ,drill press and jig could put a production of these flanges for 10x less price of cnc machine ,and it would pop them faster. Good for him that he is learning,but i guess i miss old guy with manual lathes -everyone these days just type in program and wooosh by editing magic happens.

[@johnstrawser3748]

Just do the best you can do.

[@ds70bonneville]

its not the wayviness of the workpiece, its when you put in 0.5 in depth cuz the part is 0.5 in thick, just the point of the drill, for the program is 0.5in deep, so the flutes are still in the material

[@PhotoArtBrussels]

Adam, would it be fair to state that the setup time would be similar between a manual and cnc setup in this case?

[@ilaril]

I'd recon he'd be faster on manual, but that's because he's still learning and has years of experience doing it manually. Once he's done that few dozen times it will be quicker. And the best part is you can do something else while the cnc does it's thing.

[@firesurfer]

The giant difference is you see most of your mistakes before touching metal.

[@garyrobertson7778]

It seems like you should be able to copy and paste and then just change the depth. I however have never used that machine

[@andrewstoll4548]

Nothing wrong with asking questions.

[@scose]

yeah, re-entering the bolt hole circle parameters was an error-prone step

[@thomasmckelvey8961]

👍

[@passenger6735]

Adam. You couldn't have chosen a worst example of cnc v conventional. I use both and either have their advantages. Just saying before the Luddites get involved. I don't have a conversational mill. When you set the final depth of hole, is that for the drill point or the shank? Also, the cnc is perfectly capable of producing chamfers which would save 1 op on the flex arm.

[@ellieprice363]

CNC chamfers work best on perfectly flat parts. This plate is wavy with high and low areas. Makes sense to do them manually.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

@@ellieprice363 With a cordless drill. 😀

[@Xris-FJ1200]

Hello Adam, it's very interesting the automatic machines and the CNC, especially in the industry. The result is perfect, but I prefer the work you do by hand, it's much more interesting. I don't have a CNC machine because I'm an amateur, I've learned a lot with you until today. Now I don't learn much because I can't apply these techniques. I hope you come back to manual machines and show us again all the magic of your hands.

[@deltapparo4451]

Interesting exercise, but no way faster than manual for ONE part. And .... It is still PARAMETERS, not PERIMETERS !

[@ellieprice363]

He never said it was faster than manual. The beauty of CNC is in machining multiple parts. After setup 50 of this same part could be machined in one tenth the time of manual machining and more accurate as well.

[@higginsjimmyjh]

HMMM I'M A ABOM79 FAN HAVE BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS , LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL MACHING AND THE NEW CNC JOURNEY , AS FOR YOU HATERS, WELL DONT WATCH , START YOUR OWN CHANNEL. I LIKE THIS CHANNEL BECAUSE ABOM SHOWS YOU EVERYTHING THE UP'S AND DOWNS THE GOOD AND BAD , AND EXPLAINS IN SIMPLE ENGLISH, NO REASON FOR PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND HATE BECAUSE THIS ISNT THE WAY YOU WOULD DO IT, SORRY ADAM DIDNT REALLY MEAN TO RANT , I JUST DONT LIKE HATERS !!!

[@RicksterX-92fs]

@@higginsjimmyjh I hate people that hate haters. We’re here to keep you constant complimenters in line. Lighten up Mr. ALL CAPS.

[@deltapparo4451]

Learn to type in lower case so you don't look like an ...

[@RicksterX-92fs]

@@deltapparo4451 Ass? Higgins?

[@Abom79]

Thank you very much for your kind words and support!

[@KG4JYS]

I'm surprised you're putting so much time into the conversational stuff instead of going whole hog and designing on a computer.

[@kindabluejazz]

I'm surprised you don't understand that some tasks are easier with one method versus another. And also that you don't understand the point of Adam's channel, which is education, not high output.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

I do not see the sense in spot drilling .. just chuck a Screw Machine drill bit, (if you don't trust a long one) in the final diameter needed, and drill it.

[@armageddontools]

I use rivet drill bit -its very short very rigid and it has 2 sides sharpened -they are extremely cheap so i dont bother with sharpening them.

[@cskovach]

Agree. A stubby length carbide drill would blast through these holes in under a second. No spot needed

[@kuronyan3006Ackley]

😃😀✌️👍‼️

[@kippvoss6733]

Really miss the the hand machining don't take me wrong tech is solid just miss the old school

[@martinconnelly1473]

CNC is just another tool. When you are running a business you have to be competitive, there are many examples where failing to keep up with technology has resulted in failed businesses. We are lucky these days that there are so many videos to choose from covering both old and new methods of machining. What we have here is showing how a machine shop has to keep up with the competition or risk failing as a business. We are lucky, if we want to, to be able to go along on that journey of learning to use this new tool. Where I worked before retirement (gas turbines) the pipe shop had a CNC bending machine (1/4" OD up to 2.5 NB). A shop that relied on cutting and welding to manufacture pipes could not compete against the speed of bending a piece of pipe. We used to have a typical set up time of about 15 minutes and a typical per piece time of 1-2 minutes for example. That could be two or more bends (not necessarily 90°) with an odd plane of bend from one to the next. Hand bending the small tubes was a lot slower. The time to cut off, deburr, prep, weld and inspect a weld worked out about 1 hour per joint. Larger pipe assemblies still needed a drawing and other operations such as drilling and welding for bosses. Outside contractors could not compete but that did not stop the bean counters regularly checking if our expensive pipes were really the good value for money we kept telling them they were. There were, incidentally, other advantages, the drawing office could produce a drawing with coordinate tables for many tubes on one sheet or for the bent pieces in a pipe. The coordinates came from CAD drawings and so we did not need individual or excessively detailed drawings for each different tube or pipe which saved on resources earlier in the production process.

[@armageddontools]

@@martinconnelly1473 You dont need to go cnc for simple jobs .People made specialised tools for jobs log before cnc machines were even a microprocesor.They didnt make 6 million ppsh41s in ww2 out of 13kg of steel in 13h each with cnc machine.Cnc machines are great but they are expensive ,tools are expensive ,programing takes time -great machines for complex problems.Problem is people today use them for simple tasks that could be done by a jig and drill press. There is one question that nobody asked before they were invented -if cnc machine can replace 5 people on a manual lathe ,mill,grinder,drill press etc -WHAT WILL THOSE PEOPLE DO FOR WORK?Suddenly you have 5 people that are unemployed and they cant provide for their family's.

[@charlesmiles9115]

😛😛😛😛😛😛❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@nigelroberson8911]

If youve 50 to make I guess the set up programs time make sense but while you doing all that I would have 2 finished on a bridgeport and be on a coffee break.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

5 minutes for 1 piece including programming + setup + both chamfers on a prototrak.

[@nigelroberson8911]

@@machinists-shortcuts It does seem long winded or is that just Adam?😂

[@Cattelinoable]

I would challenge that. Ran a milltronics for years after running a Bridgeport for many years. No contest. I could make one part faster on the milltronics than I could on a Bridgeport. That is starting from scratch on both machines. No tools, no vice, nothing set up.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

@@Cattelinoable Take on Kevin's challenge. It will be interesting to compare with the prototrak machine time with a vise already on the machine.

[@nigelroberson8911]

@@Cattelinoable perhaps its just Adam being slow.

[@williamsquires3070]

Ha, ha. The simulation of the program (clamp ring v2) shows the drilling, but doesn’t show the chips being made. 😢 Fake. Send it back. 😆 Okay, not really. Being able to see what the CNC machine is going to do beforehand is a good idea; this way, you can catch bozo errors before you waste valuable material or time. Also, the magnet holding up the drawing looks like a bottle of aftershave. 😅

[@dennistennyson4540]

The sad part of a job like this is set-up time is a killer.

[@SaiTorrKalFas]

For one part, no. For a series, that's a different questions. Adam chooses to do it like this so he practices operating CNC and the conversational programming in this case.

[@kindabluejazz]

The sad part is that you don't understand that this is just an educational example, not a production run.

[@skwerlz]

Not really a good part to be showcasing the capabilities of conversational programming with, but a good first learning experience. In a practical world though it's faster to trig out the holes and longhand with canned cycles for this simple of a part. Conversational starts to shine as you get into more complex parts.

[@Brian55126]

For someone skilled with the controller this program would take 1 minute max to create.

[@skwerlz]

@@Brian55126 Be realistic, it's under 5 minutes.

[@davidzoelman873]

used to be a good channel for manual machine work but getting way too much into cnc.

[@RichardSmith-wr6go]

That's why I watch Topper Machining.

[@andrewstoll4548]

Well he's running a business trying to make a living.

[@karlbeckmann8865]

Manual is gonna come back when he's gotten good enough in CNC.

[@djamelhamdia134]

@@karlbeckmann8865 I hope so!

[@zorbakaput8537]

My opinion is the trolls love to whinge and whine. It is also why I enjoy the intelligence of the Abom channel. He gets on with what WORKS for him, he also as part of that technique ignores the blather that is confused by some as being comment.

[@billverant7225]

You ever going to do manual machining again? Watching CNC is boring because the skill isn't on camera.

[@davepost7675]

I agree. I am finding myself skipping to the end of Abom's CNC videos just so it shows up as watched.

[@deltapparo4451]

A couple more commercials in the can, and even a couple of paying jobs .. Time for another 3 month vacation.

[@t.k.52]

Robisz dobrą robotę Adam, ale za dużo gadasz. Wróć do swoich filmów z przed lat i porównaj.

[@DigiLab360]

MORE drilling and tapping? This is becoming the drilling and tapping channel. I'm out...

[@tsmartin]

You will not be missed.

[@Jimmy-Legs]

Bye Bye 👋

[@ellieprice363]

Watch out for that swinging door!

[@jf-hs1ib]

set of dividers, tape measure. hammer and center punch,drill and done. faster than your intro.good job though lol

[@karlbeckmann8865]

1:16 he knows. Edit: Having watched the video, while the machine is drilling a part he can actually champfer it and tap it. (In the case that the flame cut material is not straight, otherwise CNC the b*tch)

[@2testtest2]

I take it you have one of those precision tape measures that read to 0.001" then :P

[@nigelroberson8911]

@@terryspears2307 I dont think Adam is looking for work. He earns enough just doing KZbin with all the free gear he gets. Thats why the new shop. Anyone who had bought or borrowed for all that gear would be flat out on paying jobs.

[@Aardvark613]

You are losing us that are forced to use traditional machining

[@kevind1865]

And gaining those who use CNC. Bye Felicia.

[@captainwin6333]

Dinosaurs die out.

[@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994]

So the fixturing ideas was of ZERO help to you? There is so much that is SHARED bits but your mind is clearly closed.

[@RicksterX-92fs]

And THAT’S faster? You need Milltronics and MIT on speed dial to program that robot. Sorry I had to bail midway.

[@MechanicalAdvantage]

Do you honestly believe you could do this on a manual machine faster? I don't. Just look at how quickly the probe found the center of the bore compared to what you would do with an edge finder. He was also explaining the whole process while he was doing it. Had he not had to do that, it would have been exponentially faster as well.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

A prototrak mill would take less than 10 minutes (actually it took only 5 mins with countersinks ) including setup + programming. Use a cordless drill for chamfering.

[@stevedemirjian8236]

It would have been a bit faster to import the drawing (dxf) file into the control. Too many steps to develop a program regardless. My machine with a Hurco Automation control would write the program itself by pointing out the hole positions on the touch screen from an imported dxf file. Set the center as G54 by touching the screen. Then pick the tools from the tool library and adjust feeds and speeds as necessary with appropriate G cycle, peck or drill with depth. It would take me all of two minutes . I didn't look into the Milltronics control that far to see if it had that capability.

[@MoparStephen]

You're missing the point. What if you had 30, 50, 300 of these to do? You pay the one time setup fee, and reap the benefits on every single part done thereafter.

[@MechanicalAdvantage]

@@machinists-shortcuts Ok. Now do a whole video that you present on KZbin and let’s see how fast you do it.

[@roberthousedorfii1743]

sorry, didn't like this. VERY confusing, VERY RUSHED. NOT useful. I bailed at 13 minutes Adam.