Machining a Large Flat Belt Pulley with my Antique Lathe

[@brucematthews6417]

What a treat to see an older machine running to keep an old piece of shafting equipment running in this new age.

[@jonadams6846]

Absolutely fantastic to see the old style lathes still working and a setter operator designer who is up to the job,having been a machine tool setter for over 50 years and now retired,I would be enthralled to be able to see your workshop,just real magic watching you work sir

[@iron_jonesy]

Thank you!

[@oldengineer4507]

I served my apprenticeship in a workshop with some machines as old over 60 years ago in New Zealand. They probably are still working.

[@hansschmidt1961]

I was surprised how quickly you were able to get the pulley mounted and centered. Great job. I love seeing the old machinery being used to machine parts..... for old machinery. And that Victorian lathe is pure mechanical art. Lovely. Yours is my favorite machine shop on KZbin. Nothing else like it.

[@iron_jonesy]

I think it took me a whole day in real time! haha. Especially when you include making the packing block, studs, straps etc. Thank you!!

[@chauncey5962]

Dude this is the baddest shit ever ! Just watched u cut a key way with that shaper, thanks for keeping these old beauty’s alive son,

[@sky173]

That's a beautiful lathe. Love that old metal. Thanks for sharing.

[@medvedmedvedoff4803]

Great job, man, I like old machines, it`s simple, robust but functional. All my machines is 60-70's. I spent a lot of time for scraping, resurfacing and rebuilding it to return factory precision of it. Most modern of it is 1980 fully hydraulic operated 7M36 shaper. Subscribed! With best regards from Russia.

[@johncollins719]

There is a steam driven line shaft machine shop in Kinzer Pennsylvania. They have a lot of machines of similar vintage. I go every year in August when they have an open house. At noon all of the steam engines blow their whistles (40-50 engines) It is ear splitting. :)

[@ZlodieIzZaholustia]

Это в прямом смысле Старая школа металлообработки!!! Сколько же заложено надежности и могучести в эти станки!!!

[@eyuptony]

Awsome job, great setup, enjoyable to watch. I bet your vintage lathe has done that operation numerous times in its past life.

[@richardcorwin1828]

I love seeing all this "primitive" machinery run. Thank you sir for the content and your dedication.

[@russellnixon9981]

Love the sound of your shop there's something rest full in its retheme.

[@iron_jonesy]

Me too! No need for the radio. I couldn't hear it anyway

[@seahorseist]

Excellent video what an amazing old lathe It runs really well thanks for showing us the machine in action

[@TalRohan]

That is a very impressive boring bar to go with a really quite awesome old lathe, and it sounds a whole lot quieter than the little one did Very nice job . Thanks for sharing

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks! It was worth making I think, I'm sure it'll get another use one day

[@edsmachine93]

Nice work. I really like seeing these Old machines still working. I just subscribed to your channel. Have a good week. 👍

[@berndheiden7630]

What a beautiful beast of a lathe! And that cutout of the bed for large diameter parts. Brilliant! Our forefathers were not limited in their possibilities just because they did not have pushbutton DROs.

[@iron_jonesy]

They definitely weren't!

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

What a treat to have your video recommended by the “algorithm”. Very interesting indeed. Now to binge watch your videos from the beginning. 👏👏👍😀

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@marklewandowski2289]

Thank you Alec for the video and for explaining what you are doing and why you are doing it. Even your bore-ing videos are not bor-ing - sorry, could not resist the pun.

[@graedonmunro1793]

pleasure to see the old stuff!!! cheers

[@markmiller6817]

Cool video . I love your shop !

[@louiel8711]

That's sure a nice old lathe, hope someday to find something like that for my shop. great video thanks.

[@terrycannon570]

Love watching the old Beauty Queen work.

[@johnnyholland8765]

You may never need that boring bar again but it certainly did the job this time. Things like that generally do get used more often than not. Good job good job...

[@624Dudley]

The algorithm reckoned I’d like this. It was right. 👍

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks!

[@scania357]

First timer here, very impressed with what I see of your shop. Be careful of that lead screw tho’. Thanks for sharing, have subbed.

[@p.m3735]

Just found your channel, what an amazing set up. Fantastic to see. 👌😎 Have subscribed. 🙂

[@patrickshannon4854]

Very interesting video. Beautiful vintage machinery, maintained with attention to detail. It would be interesting to view images of late 19th century workshops full of belt driven machinery. Something on a vast scale like shipbuilding or the armaments industry. Would a large concern utilize steam donkey engine to power things like cranes?

[@iron_jonesy]

Thank you! It must have been a sight to behold, 100s of such machines laid out, along with shafting and lifting gear as you say.

[@johnmcmunn3827]

Nice job ... memories of when I worked for ICI Nobel division (we had a section of line drive Tube Drawing equipment).... cheers

[@iron_jonesy]

Thank you, that sounds fascinating!

[@kote.7269]

You'll certainly have a lot of views and subscribers with such kinds of stuff you showing. Great insights into such far past.

[@Biokemist-o3k]

I love this old equipment....New subscriber here..Such a massive boring bar...-John

[@billmckillip1561]

Beautiful shop you have there! Just subscribed.

[@iron_jonesy]

Thank you!

[@Baloski46]

What a lovely shop!

[@stewkingjr]

Does that thing come in an ANC (abacus numerical control) model? Kidding aside, it was really interesting to see some line shaft machinery in actual operation. I'm going to look for more of your videos.

[@iron_jonesy]

Thank you!

[@petermcneill80]

Best thumb nail on u-tube !

[@richb419]

Hi, nice work! looks like you must have an old soul Rich 😀

[@jeremytoms5163]

Ran maintenance on a couple of furniture workshops in the 80s that still used overhead belt drive for all their tools. Just to satisfy Health and Safety we had belt guards made out of 2inch mesh, most were just panels to stop you walking into some of the belts. They also tended to be removed after the annual H&S audit , the old hands thought they were more trouble than they were worth. Main item for maintenance was ensuring that the bearing blocks for the overhead drive shafts were greased and lubricated, also made sure to keep the “clutch” mechanisms adjusted to minimise play and make engaging drive for a drill press etc as smooth as possible. The smoother the engagement less strain and wear on the pulleys. Both workshops gone now, all scrapped and houses built on the land. Just curious, are you going to deepen the keyway in the pulley ? Also, what happened to the old narrow boat you had ?

[@iron_jonesy]

I love hearing stories like that, wood shops are a different kettle of fish! Yes, the key way does need deepening. I forgot to mention that at the end! A job for the shaper! I am still working on the boat, but I wanted to focus on other things with the channel. Cheers!

[@ironcladranchandforge7292]

Wow that pulley was close to the wall, LOL. You couldn't go any larger. Good job adding the washers as spacers. That more than makes up for the 0.010" over on the 3" diameter. It will clamp up nicely.

[@iron_jonesy]

No haha! It was quite satisfying to use the all of the lathes capacity! Cheers

[@NineWorldsWorkshop]

Top notch bit of work! And very poignant timing too. Have you ever had to make a wheel like this from scratch? I'm nearing the end of a restoration on an 1892 power hammer and the drive wheel is missing. It's an unusual size that I haven't been able to locate so it means I have to fabricate one. Knowing that a lot of these larger wheels are rolled plate gives me hope that I can make it work, especially doing it in two pieces like this so I can avoid the flats off a slip roller. How well balanced do these need to be? I assume the better job I do the smoother it will run. Instead of the cast hub, unless I can find one of those to use, I'll have to machine one too. Any info or things to watch out for would be greatly appreciated! This hammer is only my second excursion into belt driven tooling so there's a lot to learn!

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks! No, I've never made one of these from scratch, although I've often thought about it. If I were to, Id copy this one. The castings are cheap enough here so Id cast the hub in the 2 parts and probably thread in the spokes. On some pulleys the spokes were laid in the mould and the hub cast around them. A bit like traction engine wheels. But that would be a lot more work at the foundry. On this pulley, the spokes were definitely added afterwards, either threaded or pressed, I cant tell without cutting it up. Id lean toward the latter though. The spokes themselves are forgings, heavily upset on the rim end with a short tenon afterwards. This is peened after passing though the rim. In your situation, I might lean towards fabricating a 'casting' from steel, if a real casting isn't feasible. I've seen some great looking results done this way! Good luck!

[@NineWorldsWorkshop]

@@iron_jonesy Thanks for the great info! I suppose one of the benefits of an assembly is that remaking parts that don't end up making the cut is less work overall than starting from scratch every time!

[@FailedExpert6330]

I don't know if you are aware that most flat pulleys are not flat but have a crown on them, it is to keep the belt on. Just so you know and can take it into your planning. Brings back memories.

[@NineWorldsWorkshop]

@@FailedExpert6330 Indeed! And a new puzzle to try and figure out! I'll have to remeasure but I don't think the diameter I need will fit in the lathe, it not being a gap bed. Thanks for the info!

[@haroldpearson6025]

Flat belt pullies are not actually flat, they are crowned.

[@rossmorrow3013]

What a craftsman!

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks!

[@DolezalPetr]

Thats awesome!

[@madhusudanjeurkar3178]

I learned turning on such a belt .driven lathe in 50"s . Being low speed machine, we used plain carbon steel tools

[@DmitryMurphy-p7h]

Very difficult to get a nice smooth cut at such a low speed.

[@Rustinox]

Nice. I guess for drastic parts you need to take drastic measures. Good thing the pulley wasn't bigger. That would have been a real challenge :)

[@iron_jonesy]

It really was a close fit! Never thought I'd get to use all the capacity like that!

[@terrycannon570]

Thanks!

[@iron_jonesy]

Thanks Terry!

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Enjoyed. 👍

[@cameronlilly4814]

Being a jackass, I'd be fitting an alternator or dynamo to allow simple cnc operation. I have such a plan for my slightly newer (1905) equipment!

[@sallybrokaw6124]

With the iron spokes and rolled steel outer rim a fast rotational speed would create a loud harmonic ruckus.😊 AL B. In Ohio.

[@Waseem-zi8mq]

Dear bro I love old machines this is a history of industrial revolution Lathe Machine is the mother of all machine so please keep it for the next generation. I think machine bead is dry so please before use the machine cleane and lube bead guide ways bushes Warm regards, Waseem from Pakistan

[@susankimbal4304]

I cringed when I heard you move your tail stock. Your bed is dry and gritty. It should move smooth and easily on thick way oil. Apply thick way oil then move your slides and wipe down with paper towel then reapply way oil and do this over and over until parts move smoothly without the tell tail high pitched grit sound, that tells you you are wearing out your bed. Things should move silently, and glide nearly effortlessly once in motion. Develop an ear for it and it will save you and your machines in the end.

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

Just found your channel. Subscribed. What make and model is that lathe?

[@iron_jonesy]

She was built by F. Pratt & Co, Halifax in the 1890s. The design was very common amongst English Victorian makers and starting to get a bit old fashioned by the time this one was built. Cheers!

[@grumpyg9350]

It’s a shame that a 4 jaw chuck isn’t available.👍

[@johnhill7701]

Please oil the bed ways

[@crimsonvision6493]

Прекрасные старинные станки!

[@RutherfordRyan1]

Interesting tool post capstan design….

[@HubertBrown-rl2wo]

[@cristianmatache7729]

👍👍👍!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mudnducs]

Why turn so low? Why is boring bar hanging out so far?

[@johnmcmunn3827]

for clearance .. the saddle comes close to the Pulley OD.

[@jatigre1]

Usually I never say this, but where is the apostrophe!?!

[@RogerClay-g6w]

What year is the lathe from ?

[@iron_jonesy]

@@RogerClay-g6w the mid 1890s

[@trialen]

Were you hand feeding?

[@iron_jonesy]

Nope, there is a back shaft driven from the change gears which drives the saddle and provides either sliding or surfacing feeds

[@trialen]

@@iron_jonesy I've come across the backshaft for surfacing, but never realised it could be for sliding as well. Very interesting.

[@philsteele7151]

If you had bored it oversize a file across the faces would have tightened it up.

[@iron_jonesy]

That's the beauty of these, plenty of clearance between the halves.

[@edilsonmartins6653]

Torno bem antigo e forte.

[@ronwilken5219]

First time to your channel. I'll probably subscribe. Where are you located? I'm assuming, always dangerous, somewhere in UK, possibly Manchester . Above and left of the window is a brass something fastened to the wall. Too pointy to be a horse brass, so I'm curious as to what it is or represents. Regards from Canada's banana belt. 🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🕊🇺🇦🕊🇬🇧🏁👍

[@iron_jonesy]

Yep, I'm in England! Its a 'knot', made of aluminium strips. It serves no purpose, just a nick nack I made many years ago. Cheers!

[@hrxy1]

an interesting but disappointed video, you did nt show or explain the pulley on the end of the crane, i was wondering what kind of pulley would be fixed to the forks at the end of the boom, now it's up a and running and you didn't explain it otherwise typical good interesting, informative video, thanks

[@iron_jonesy]

Ah yes, this is a temporary set up. I'll be covering the permanent solution soon, but for now I've had to jump onto other projects. Cheers.

[@hrxy1]

@iron_jonesy OK thanks for the reply and explanation