Machining a Model Steam Engine - Part 4 - Square Collets and Small Parts

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Joe Pie

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@dolata000
@dolata000 4 жыл бұрын
Now I realize that I have been too eager to mount the stock willy-nilly and use my machines to gnaw at it until it resembles the drawing. Spending a few minutes making a jig or fixture will repay in both time and accuracy. Plus this should show young kids in school that math and triangles ARE important if they want to make or design things. Bravo.
@MrTIGERH1752
@MrTIGERH1752 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you quickly, and concisely walked your audience through the creation of a split square collet. You are an excellent teacher, and a practical demonstrator of the mechanical arts. Your years of expertise, and competence are showing. Tim
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a Joe Pie Book of Machinery Fixturing and Setup book? The fixturing and setups in your videos are gold...
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but many have asked.
@carlfriedrich5316
@carlfriedrich5316 4 жыл бұрын
Do it. I know some of the basics after 3 years of this as a hobby, but I feel like I barely know the difference from my mill and my lathe when I watch your stuff. I love and very much appreciate the videos!
@JBFromOZ
@JBFromOZ 4 жыл бұрын
now THIS is the Joe Pie I've come to know and respect. I am really appreciative to be able to concentrate on your talents and teachings. thank you. loved the square collet fixture, also using the drill pinned radius cutter. I have added a set of Gage Pins to my shopping list, clear with your use of them here how essential they are for hitting numbers in flange gaps as well as holes. cheers mate!
@howder1951
@howder1951 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Joe, until now, I had never known how simple it is to make square collets, and thanks for demonstrating their usefulness. Cheers!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 4 жыл бұрын
A real masters level course in fixturing. Thank you. I don't comment often, but every time you do something like this my brain goes WOW! Why don't I think of stuff like that? The answer of course is I don't have your many years of experience. I am a retired military guy having fun in his garage with chinesium machines, but your videos are still very valuable to me and entertaining as well.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@westweld
@westweld 4 жыл бұрын
Man id work for free to be your apprentice......in the last 3 videos I've seen techniques that I've never seen anywhere on youtube before..... good stuff Joe
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@onlooker251
@onlooker251 4 жыл бұрын
Joe - This build gets better and better! The techniques that your showing us are truly amazing. I’m learning so much from your videos. Thanks for sharing - they’re much appreciated. John 🇬🇧
@ngauge22
@ngauge22 4 жыл бұрын
That pin pressing technique was great advice. I've been in a few shops when I was much younger and never saw the ingenuity I've seen watching your videos. Another great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks to work hard to get a nice fit only to have the pin pinch the groove shut. that is a very frustrating moment.
@jeffanderson4979
@jeffanderson4979 10 ай бұрын
You have the model makers talking. Very unique ideas. Great stuff.
@joepie221
@joepie221 10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ArmchairDeity
@ArmchairDeity 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Joe Pie instructional videos is like cross between hanging out at your uncle’s machine shop and being in a VoTech machinist program.
@theflyingfool
@theflyingfool 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, I am loving this series! Your acumen and ability to explain this to non-mechanical numpties like me is really appreciated.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@jdsstegman
@jdsstegman 4 жыл бұрын
You sir are always thinking ahead! Great work on something that seems simple, but one could still do wrong if not thinking ahead!
@clifffiftytwo
@clifffiftytwo 4 жыл бұрын
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - you're right there, sir. What a useful technique!
@thebeaver6596
@thebeaver6596 4 жыл бұрын
Cliff Miller I just watched social dilemma too lol and here we are racking up the screen time lol
@paulcarre4719
@paulcarre4719 4 жыл бұрын
Again what a tour of work-holding & set-up, I hope you realize just how much this is appreciated Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Take the ideas and make them better.
@Bristoll170
@Bristoll170 4 жыл бұрын
As always, a fantastic 'How To' production. The fraze 'You don't know what you don't know, until you know it' shines through with the, I'd call it 'back thinking'? on how to hold very small parts from looking at the expected finished product. The difference between you and Houdini, is you show us the tricks. And it's still magic :-) Thanks for sharing.
@evilbrat5376
@evilbrat5376 4 жыл бұрын
You make machining these pieces look so easy - though it really is not as simple as it looks. Beautiful sq. collet to hold the brass stock. Waiting to see the next piece of the puzzle.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video a few times now and I'll probably watch it a few more after this. There are so many neat tricks it's hard to take them all in.
@peterpocock9062
@peterpocock9062 4 жыл бұрын
The more I see you use the 5c collects the more I like them. Great job.
@dcw56
@dcw56 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. I do learn something from you now and then! I'm another old machining head, but had never thought of the square collet fixture for holding the square piece. I would have done it a way that took more time in the long run, mounting a small 4 jaw in another chuck. I like your way better. Tip o' the hat, Mr. Pie. :)
@mr.t.807
@mr.t.807 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe The tips and knowledge you show and teach us is like going to school, and Apprenticeship class. My father was a IBEW electrican, and a electrican mate on a Destroyer from 42 to 46 in the south Pacific. I helped him, as a child till I got in the IBEW at age 19. He had given me a very good start in the mechanics of the electrical trade and, the Apprenticeship program tough me the theory and code. He tought me to listen to the older electrican, and as I worked in the trade. I have to say my father also tought me to think things through if I didn't understand the problem. Thanks for the education Joe! Randy
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Randy, Your Dad sounded like a wise man.
@trailrider0194
@trailrider0194 4 жыл бұрын
Living proof the most things are easy IF you possess the right knowledge. Great video!
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 4 жыл бұрын
You are one crafty fella my friend. That collet adaptor is a real keeper. It may not get used again for years but it will be in its keeper/holder for when you do. That was some well thought and executed work my friend. I really enjoyed this post.
@grayskwerl4973
@grayskwerl4973 4 жыл бұрын
A great video on making the square collet to hold the brass stock. Well worth dealing with the advertisements to gain this well presented information. + thanks Joe +
@billchiasson2019
@billchiasson2019 4 жыл бұрын
You never cease to amaze me with your knowledge!! Thanks for sharing this trick!!
@mikemarriam
@mikemarriam 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for showing me the technique for holding the square stock in the round collet. I see you're approaching 100,000 subscribers. I'm happy for you.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping.
@TheTacktishion
@TheTacktishion 4 жыл бұрын
Nice "Square Collet" build. Had to watch that 2 times to see where you were going with this. Great Technique. Again thanks for Sharing that....!
@lesgaal4017
@lesgaal4017 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks joe for the collet adapter idea its a great way to hold smaller parts and its safe from down under .
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 4 жыл бұрын
I like how often you climb cut. It just goes to show that it is not a bad thing. I hear to many time that you don't want to climb cut. In my 13 year production machining career I never had a problem climb cutting. If you have a decent machine without a lot of slop I don't see the danger. You get a better finish. Another good video Joe.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 4 жыл бұрын
As you know the only problem with cutting the "wrong " way is the sudden take up of backlash, if the cutting forces are considerably less than the force needed to move the mass of the mill table there should be no problem. So with a small cutter moved slowly you can often cut safely, but a big cutter moved quickly would be a no-no. The big but is that you have to have a bit of experience to know slow from quick and small from big.😤
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstephens6673 You are right. I worked mostly on small parts on Bridgeports. I haven't touched a mill in over 25 years. Forgot about the backlash. It would have come back to me if I started milling again. Thanks.
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 жыл бұрын
I worked an old and terribly abused / unmaintained Bridgeport at an automotive machine shop. It had 5/8 turn of slop in the x-axis, no power feeds (not even the quill - the gears were destroyed long before my time) and no DRO. I'd have to climb cut for the smoother finish for gasket surfaces regularly. I'd tighten the table locks to the point of really having to crank the x-feed on the long cuts on the flute edges of the end mills. It worked most of the time, but sketchy AF. If the cutter climbed over, it would force the table to move and bash my hand with the wildly spinning x-axis handle. Every once in a while, I'd produce a serrated edge intake manifold......
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottb8175 ah that old textured finish. 😉
@paulmace7910
@paulmace7910 4 жыл бұрын
Square collet adapter is a great idea as is press fit on the center element. Great content as usual. This little kit is turning out to be a gold mine of handy tricks.
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed that you can make such delicate parts on what to me is a big mill. Says something for your kit. These are not far off small clock sized parts. Those little recommendations - interference fir in the centre - are why people really need to serve apprenticeships - they are often not in the text books. Thanks Joe. BobUK.
@yt66228
@yt66228 4 жыл бұрын
Once again I learned a lot just from the setups alone. I wish you were around 30 years ago when I first got into my hobby. I have learned a lot from you and youtube!
@kendesign3622
@kendesign3622 4 жыл бұрын
Joe your machinist knowledge and wisdom never Ceases to amaze me. Coming up on 100K! You deserve it, keep up the awesome content.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Amazing setups and machining. Each video shows something better than the last. Itching to see what you have for us in the next. You and the family stay safe.
@markfulmer8501
@markfulmer8501 4 жыл бұрын
another great video Joe. Using the 1,2 3 blocks for holding the small parts in the vise is a good idea to be used a lot. I'm sure anybody that doesn't have collets with square holes with be making the fixtures. A fixture to hold tapered round material like the legs of a divider to be sharpened on a " D " grinder might be held in a similar fashion as your split collet.
@fladder1
@fladder1 4 жыл бұрын
As always a video with knowledge/insight that's priceless. Thank you for once again sharing your hard earned experience.
@tomc938
@tomc938 2 жыл бұрын
Joe, Thanks for these videos! I have a PM #1 casting kit on it's way to me and I 1) see I am in over my head; 2) think I can do it by following your excellent advice and tips. Fixturing and work order seems to be key, and you have some elegant solutions to safely and securely holding parts large and small. Thanks again!
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 4 жыл бұрын
LOVED the collet tip. I am going to go make a set of them for standard sizes. Yeah a new project!
@transistor754
@transistor754 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Holding small parts accurately is an art!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I like small parts. Holding them is most of the work.
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Hi Joe. Ever heard of what is often called 'part on a stick'? I sometimes repair and / or build HO scale locomotives from brass. It is common practice there to temporarily low temperature solder the microscopic and / or impossible to clamp parts onto larger pieces of brass to hold them for machining and hand filing. Just unsolder when done. Any excess solder can be removed with a solder wick or filing / sanding. Much better than the glue methods as solder is stronger.
@skoue4165
@skoue4165 4 жыл бұрын
Great job. I once worked in a place that had some square %c collets, but never thought of making adapters. Pretty obvious after seeing it done... I do love the smack yourself in the forehead moments! This will be SO useful going forward. Thanks.
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738 4 жыл бұрын
Only wish I had come across this procedure sooner, Joe thank's for taking the time to share it with us. Play Safe From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
@christopherlease
@christopherlease 4 жыл бұрын
Another work holding trick. Can't get enough of them.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
A little prep and the job should go well.
@brucewood8046
@brucewood8046 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that a threaded collet adapter can be made in the same fashion. I attempted to do a similar adaptation by putting an inside thread on a rod then spliting one side of the rod so it could be clamped down on the allthread I was using. I had to go to a four jaw chuck to center the setup. In the future I will use this same setup you demonstrated. I'll put the internal thread on the collet adapter I wish to make, include the flange, then split the adapter completely in half. It should center just fine in a collet or three jaw chuck. Thank you! Woody
@peteengard9966
@peteengard9966 4 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned. I watch Keith Appleton's channel. He builds and repairs steam engines and steam locomotives and such. He always tells you he is not a machinist. Just a musician who works on model steam engines. He's rather unconventional but gets the job done and looks great too. Very entertaining. Mainsteam models.
@sblack48
@sblack48 4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure out how to hold sq tool bits in a round deckel collet of my debit grinder. You just gave me the answer!
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, great tips on the square collet. Another idea for my toolbox.
@dirtboy896
@dirtboy896 4 жыл бұрын
Joe pie always gettin it done
@robmason5555
@robmason5555 4 жыл бұрын
I wish someone had a video of how to read blueprints like the one your using for the steam engine parts. It would be worth more than gold to some people. Love your content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea!
@peterparsons3297
@peterparsons3297 4 жыл бұрын
I not making a steam engine but i can think of lots of use for the square collets trick.... thanks Joe
@eastcoastandy2905
@eastcoastandy2905 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking good video, Joe. Makes me wish I still had my Schaublin. The collets were W-20 and and still available new round, square and hex. Dead accurate, went in the lathe and the indexer too. Your quick workarounds will help many less fortunate. Thanks for your efforts in the community.
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 4 жыл бұрын
And to think I would have looked in my 5 C rack realizing that was the one size square I do not have, then after I looked in the broach drawer and figured out I do not have a 3/16 square broach either. Frustrated to the point of not being able to think outside the box, not realizing I had one all along, I would call MSC and order a 5C collet😕 completely ignoring the small 4 jaw chuck I have on the back of the shelf! Elegant solution Joe...elegant🍻🍻
@BadDrivers24
@BadDrivers24 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple of videos lately presenting extreme criticisms of the quality of this build. I know this model well, and can't say enough good things about the results and philosophy's behind your approach. This is an outstanding series. I left a detailed reply on one of those other videos today, and it was deleted. This leads me to believe those videos may be a collaborative effort and produced by some very sorry individuals. Don't let the trolls get under your skin. They are not worth the effort.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the advice. It truly is best to just laugh and ignore them.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackorlove4055 I am a machinist and your comment about working in varying level of tolerances is incorrect. A machinist works in the tolerances given on the print. That is all we care about, because the print is the contract. The only perfection we chase is "in tolerance" regardless of if that tolerance is ten thousandths of an inch or ten millionths of an inch. If the part is poorly designed, that is the engineer's problem, not ours. If I am given a print of a part that has some silly tolerances or an expensive feature, I will basically kick it back for clarification with an "are you sure?". Many machinists don't bother, and will make the part anyways regardless of cost, and which is perfectly within their right to do, ethical or not, provided the agreement was to simply make the part. Also, in regards to who is or is not a machinist: If you can be given a blueprint, and with no supervision can use the tools at your disposal to give back a completed part that is in tolerance (which you know because you inspected it), then you are a machinist. It doesn't matter if the blueprint was for a plain cube or a jet engine part. If you work in a machine shop all day making plain aluminum cubes, you are still a professional machinist. If you work in your garage making inconel jet engine parts for funsies, you are still a hobby machinist. Either way, you are a machinist. It is a very broad spectrum trade with more than a lifetime of learning in it, which means we only stop improving when we decide to.
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765
@randomelectronicsanddispla1765 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAWaC I think that it applies to anything that involves plans and a third party, whether it is a part for a rocket or a garden shed. You get the better engineers and drafties, who have either experience in the building/ machining, or who can visualise the process. And you get the less good ones who only draw lines on a computer screen and pull numbers out of their backside. And on the receiving side, you get the ones who say "well, that's how it is on the plan, not my problem if that's not what you wanted" and the ones who will get the customer to check if that's actually what they want because it doesn't seem to make sense. And then you have those who have no clue what it's all about.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 4 жыл бұрын
@Hank Maki I agree. In the specific case of Joe making the engine, the blueprints for it are pretty poorly thought out with several bizarre constraints and weird dimensions and datums that make it harder than it has to be. In my experience, these kinds of prints generally come from a project where a blueprint is made by reverse engineering a prototype that already exists. Since he's making the project for himself and it's not a contract, he is free to modify it as he sees fit.
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 4 жыл бұрын
The way you cut that radius gave me a eureka moment. For doing roller chain sprockets, you could use a reverse helix endmill so the helix may passively anchor the part. Seems a lot faster than the rotary table method.
@brucematthews6417
@brucematthews6417 4 жыл бұрын
Great hint on making the center the press fit. And yeah, I've been there and sworn at the thing at the time. It wasn't a yoke like that but it was roughly the same sort of idea. And yeah, it pinched in tight and had to be pried out a hair. Next time around I used a piece of shim to hold the gap then pulled the shim out after. The pieces in question came that way. For anything I make I like your way far better.
@jimc12
@jimc12 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at those drawings brings me back. Im great full I am old enough to have experienced doing mechanical engineering blue prints by hand on a drafting board. Then making blue prints and the smell of that ammonia blue print paper. I was able to experience the transition to digital drawings. When cad, unigraphics and catia were first coming out.
@19441978
@19441978 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how you make it look so easy, Joe.
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always. As a hobbyist I try to learn and develop this craft to the best of my abilities. Videos of this caliber go beyond entertaining and become an education. Very few guys go into this realm. Robin R, and Tom L would be in this realm I would think. Keep it up joe and don't let anyone slow you down.
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice joe, I recently went back to one of your threading videos for help and it was very helpful just learning so although you take it to another level I can still glean enough information that I understand from you to get my little jobs done. I’ve just celebrated 100 subscribers. Very happy
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on that milestone. I remember being shocked when I hit 100. I couldn't believe it.
@captcarlos
@captcarlos 4 жыл бұрын
Always pick up something useful out of your videos Joe. That supplementary collet technique is gold.. Could be square, rectangular, tiny, threaded.. Thanks again, nearly 100 k.... 🤞
@joerogi8401
@joerogi8401 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, the sign of a true master, knowing which bump on ones .002" feeler gauge is calibrated 😆 Great vid as always, thanks for sharing.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
There are many uncalibrated bumps on that shim. I bet its 25+ years old.
@metalshopwithtroy5755
@metalshopwithtroy5755 4 жыл бұрын
Wow loved it joe and didnt need a 5c collet square set. I also like the radius cutting. Will remember to use a 4 flute too. Great tip. I have been glued to the series and it never gets old. I am currently working on some aluminum threaded Bushes but keep turning on me when threading. Its a big thread 1/2 BSPF, 3mm wall. I Have made collet to hold out of 50mm aluminum round stock spliit with 25mm bore, still slips just not as much. Still working on it only have 400 to do. Once again great video Joe i appreciate your work very much.
@rtkville
@rtkville 4 жыл бұрын
A really great video Joe I really enjoyed watching it, thank you!
@thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180
@thaumaturgicresearchcounci4180 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, you are an absolute gold mine of great information and advice. Thanks yet again for another super video!
@alexvonbosse5090
@alexvonbosse5090 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and effective way of producing these parts! Thanks for sharing and keep up your great work!
@incy55
@incy55 4 жыл бұрын
Could you put an O-ring groove just to hold the halves together?
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I considered that but didn't have the correct size. Don't make it too tight. It will compound the frustration of inserting the parts.
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 жыл бұрын
I've used the o-rings like that in my home-made taper expanding collet bearing pullers / drivers for sleeve type plain bearings like the cam bearings in a cam-in-block V-8. I got the idea from a commercial grade tool sold for the same task. I also use that method to make pullers for thin profile needle bearings (swing arm and suspension pivot bearings in motorcycles) so I don't destroy the bearings when I remove them.
@canberradogfarts
@canberradogfarts 4 жыл бұрын
As always the mastery of the art and the art of the mastery is a pleasure to witness and learn. Thank you Joe.
@jeremydoblinger3609
@jeremydoblinger3609 3 жыл бұрын
Dude these setup and work holding are great!! Really appriecate it and am and will be putting them to use
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Once the philosophy sets in, you'll come up with many more.
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I must be getting a little better because i can sometimes see your next step before you do it. Thanks a million.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 4 жыл бұрын
Small parts are a potential nightmare for set up and holding - love your approach joe as usual - logical and super effective. Super video :) (You are almost 100k subs!)
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍 That 100K should be here mid to end of Nov. I am truly flattered by everyone that has helped. Thank you all.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
This morning a watched a video by Harold Hall in which he made a four piece square collet starting with four pieces held in a four jaw chuck. This looks simpler. Of course if you made the "collet" with a bigger OD you could cut a groove and use an O-ring to hold the together. That way you can lose both sides at once. 🙄 Always more than one way to take the cats coats off. Nice work as always. 👍 PS use one of these to hold square broaching tools in the mill. Make the broaches out of HSS square tool bits
@stevecoffman1576
@stevecoffman1576 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, That was slick. I like it.
@keithmonarch447
@keithmonarch447 4 жыл бұрын
Just started watching you. I've been around machine tools, quite few pieces of equipment. It's always nice see stuff like this. A big difference between a full size Bridge Port versus this mini drill/mill. First starting off flaking the ways. Then go from there, aquired a few different insert-mills. I'm going to be keeping an I on your videos
@johnmcdonnell6109
@johnmcdonnell6109 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip on the square collet adapter!
@thevintagetype4358
@thevintagetype4358 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr P, Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I have learned so much from your Chanel and especially take the safety tips to hart. Like so many I have a hobby lathe and am looking for a bench top mill. The videos where you are making small parts are especially helpful because as my skills improve I want to make replacement and repair parts to repair antique typewriters. Kind Regards, Bryan.
@93Martin
@93Martin 4 жыл бұрын
I saw what happened there when you started the radius and were cutting from the wrong side. I'm sure it didn't feel right to an experienced hand and you realized/rectified your mistake. great to see even the best machinist on youtube can still make a mistake. Superb video as always Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
You have very good eyes. Of all the table and part shifts done to create those radii, I admit to one incorrect sweep. Even with a small endmill, you know immediately. It either simply offers resistance, or it hits very hard and tries to lift. Excellent catch.
@93Martin
@93Martin 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 I'm trying to learn from the best over here
@wallbawden5511
@wallbawden5511 4 жыл бұрын
I Would have to agree with Michael Lloyd you need to do a book as the things you have stored in your memory you are passing a lot on but these tips and tricks of your traid need to be recorded some where Joe Pie Book of Machinery Fix Turing and Setup book yes I would buy that
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@1RebelDog1
@1RebelDog1 4 жыл бұрын
i thoroughly enjoyed that, exellent job, from Wales UK ♥
@turbo6837
@turbo6837 4 жыл бұрын
👍 genius set up, I'm learning something new every time I watch. Great job Joe!
@pgs8597
@pgs8597 4 жыл бұрын
G’day Joe. Too many tips in this video:-) thanks. I particularly liked the square collet block. Cheers Peter
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@1crazypj
@1crazypj 4 жыл бұрын
The FIRST time you do a radius like that it's kinda nerve wracking and after you've done it you wonder why you were so worried. It's a good diea to stay a bit nervous though, complacency leads to accidents. I'll probably mount the Go-Pro mount I'm making on rotary table though as it's a bit larger and too short to safely hold (offcut from scrap box ) Grandson want's a You Tube channel !!?? (he's 5 tomorrow)
@steveallen8987
@steveallen8987 4 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. For an alternative method. I do things a little different, as it’s just as easy to make round things square as it is to hold square things in a round hole. I use a Myford dividing head, see link at bottom. It features and integral 1/2 collet the same as my Myford ML7 lathe spindle so moving parts is easy. (Also chucks are swappable.) I start with round stock 1 standard size up from the required square parts diagonal. Cut to approx 2.5x the required part length. I mount a slitting saw in an arbour into the lathe spindle collet. I mount the material int the dividing head collet. Then I mount up a vertical slide, face on to the lathe spindle and mount the dividing head onto the V slide holding the material facing end on to the slitting blade so that I can make end cuts into the material. ( similar to the setup shown but cutting into end of material not the side). I then line up center on tool and position to cut off one side. For the male clevis I position to cut to the correct thickness and cut one side, then rotate 180 degrees using the dividing head and cut the opposite side. I then replace the slitting saw with a jacobs Chuck in the lathe spindle and drill out the pivot pin hole. Replace the slitting saw and reposition. Then I rotate 90 degrees and reposition to cut off the round side and then 180 degrees to cut off the last side. Then I remove the part and measure the length & mount it backwards in the lathe spindle collet so that I can centre drill and drill the mounting hole to the correct depth. Turn the part around and mount so the machined end is clear and the form tool the Bach and part off. I always tap small parts like this mounted in a handheld pin vice (very old antique that came down the family line) and a hand held tap with a square guide to get a nice and square thread. I use a small bolt through the pivot point with a couple of steel buttons machined to the correct radius and needle file the end of the clevis half round. The female clevis is machined in almost the same way just with the centre cutout first, then reposition to cut of the front end he then the rest is the same. The Myford dividing head is great because it is self contained with collet and Chuck mounting threads. Integral tail stock centre. 60 turn action. 4 hole plates available. Easy single point mounting to a slide. I hope someone found this interesting or maybe useful. Steve www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/tools/dividinghead/myfordtk.JPG www.myford-lathes.com/accessories6.html
@scottb8175
@scottb8175 4 жыл бұрын
The Myford small machines and accessories are very high quality....nice if you can get them. I also will point out another great hobby machine and foundry channel that comes to mind with mention of Myford tools - search 'myfordboy' on YT. I have seen many using the tiny yet seemingly capable Sherline tools also, although I can't say anything about them because I've never seen one in the metal.
@steveallen8987
@steveallen8987 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottb8175 yes found his channel. He is a professor Brainstorm when it comes to making attachments.
@graemebrumfitt6668
@graemebrumfitt6668 4 жыл бұрын
Square peg in a round hole... well I never, nice one Joe. TFS, G :)
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely...!!! I'll be using that radius tip one day!
@peterridgway7355
@peterridgway7355 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! I always learn something new and clever from your videos! Thank you Joe
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 4 жыл бұрын
I have a lathe (and no collets) and a shaper. That could be quite a challenge to make these parts. But with a bit of imagination, everything is possible.
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Joe....Great tips and techniques. Thanks 👌👍
@andrewhall2554
@andrewhall2554 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I learn something every time I watch one of these videos.
@chuirios365
@chuirios365 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Very creative Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chui. Thanks. I hope your recovery is going well.
@chuirios365
@chuirios365 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Yes thank you, I'm at about 85 precent of full function so far. Back in the shop going on two months now. And enjoying my projects.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 4 жыл бұрын
I would just build the model full size to make the work holding easier. :-) The order of operations on making the collet adapter was well done for a great result.
@johnspargo5876
@johnspargo5876 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. Allways good! kind regards from John Spargo in Cape Town
@michaelclark2840
@michaelclark2840 4 жыл бұрын
Great video on machining small parts, which is often harder than machining big parts. Loving the bespoke collet. I'm just curious about your method you used to cut the slot. Do you normally incrementally plunge cut to full depth then clean up? I've never used that method. Just wondering if it is a more accurate method.
@phillipyannone3195
@phillipyannone3195 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of great tips as always. Love the small work.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I've done the huge shafts and manifolds, but small is just as challenging.
@robertjeffery3237
@robertjeffery3237 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos and have learned a lot from them. Thank you for your time and attention to educating your viewers. I don't have any of the power tools to do this project, so could you please show some alternate methods using a drill press as the only power tool and hand tools to machine the parts for this project?
@MadeInGreatBritain
@MadeInGreatBritain 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link to this video Joe. Really really helpful stuff!!!! Keep it up
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@jasonjoens279
@jasonjoens279 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe! You just stopped me from buying a set of square 5C collets!
@davidkepley4396
@davidkepley4396 4 жыл бұрын
Buy a square collet block and you can do all the operations in this video in the mill using round stock and without making a special bushing..
@jasonjoens279
@jasonjoens279 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidkepley4396 You're not wrong. For me, it's a matter of personal preference. I like being able to make my own tools if I can. Being a broke hobby guy might be a factor, too!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
the chamfer was done with a form tool when the parts were set for the final tapped feature.
@johncarey9400
@johncarey9400 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! Awesome job as always! I support the book idea! ( KZbin needs to back down on the interruptions though!)
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 4 жыл бұрын
25 commercials is crazy!
@tomroskell403
@tomroskell403 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Far to many add now isn't there 😟 Do you control that Joe or utube ????
@cardoctordenny
@cardoctordenny Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative videos! at 15:44 you have stop brackets installed to hold the vertical reference 123 block.. Question is what does that bracket mount to?
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
This may help. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqO7mKSOosqBm80
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to send one of these kits to Keith Rucker (a steam engine guy), and one to Adam Booth (a non-steam engine guy), and see how the two of them approach it. Keith would probably add a governor and a whistle. 😁
@HawksofOz
@HawksofOz 4 жыл бұрын
yeah but Keith Rucker will take about 8 years to get around to it.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 4 жыл бұрын
@@HawksofOz But it's a steam engine, so Keith would be on it double quick.
@kurtjanzen7391
@kurtjanzen7391 4 жыл бұрын
Depending on how tight the centerline tolerance is I will make the tenon cut only on the back side and rotate the part 180 degrees. This always guarantees a centered tenon. Just another way of doing it and more geared to production. Good job, thanks for the videos. Did I miss finishing of the canon?
@esosoteric362
@esosoteric362 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks joe. Great ideas . Loving the set ups.
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