Machinist Changes | FFXIV Shadowbringers Media Tour

[@manbearpigsereal]

ah, larry's favorite jobs; summoner and robot summoner

[@Larryzaur]

👀 mch does seem very enticing now

[@Shiirow]

Robo-hamut Go

[@DjimonMoz]

So basically, MCH is Shadowbringers' 3rd new job

[@12371eric]

Yes and I couldn't be happier about it.

[@kyotheman69]

basically its totally a new class now, so instead of two new classes we got third baby

[@enyaliosares4301]

I’d even go so far to say 4th. They reworked dark knight too.

[@OdesThundagod]

With this and GNB, I think the Ironworks is about to find a surplus of new engineering hires

[@Chronometry707]

4:16 "So I grabbed a Drak to test this out." Stealth crossovers for the win.

[@waking00one]

Killer queen has already touched that mob. *BOOM* I like this.

[@RogueEggman]

She's a killer queen gunpowder, gelatin, Dynamite with a laser beam! Guaranteed to blow your mind!

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Anytime!

[@99range92def]

Was not expecting a jojo reference (silly me) but i was pleasantly surprised.

[@metabiospark]

Now your making me want to try sync up Automaton (Killer) Queen's pile bunker and Wildfire's detonator for Bites za Dusto!

[@RMD00]

Queen Overdrive has no weaknesses!

[@grimwolf9988]

"Machinist is like a totally different job now" Thank GOD. It needed it, bad.

[@taruthemenace]

A Job Reborn.

[@lmildrum]

Currently my only DoW not at 70. Took forever getting it to 61, I'll start back up as MCH once the expansion is here instead of trying to drag myself through it

[@randomisaac5959]

I liked Machinist before :v

[@thejmiester14]

My loyalty to MCH as a main class through what Stormblood did to us finally pays off :P

[@lunausagi8495]

Maining a job through this much changes isn't paying off anything, you're just forcing yourself to have less fun for terrible "reward"

[@BM03]

They haven't said anything good about crafters but now I'm excited that I know CUL turns into MCH and Air Anchor increases the Batter Gauge. ( 1:43 ) I don't know the baking rotation well yet but I try.

[@KuhntaSmash]

@2:13 "she will immediately use roller dash..." 5 seconds into a 20 second duration.

[@jayr5mitty351]

Yea I was saying the same smh a little annoying honestly

[@dragonmangames2523]

They... They... They... THEY DIDN'T REMOVE WILDFIRE BUT... BUT... BUT... THEY *MADE IT GOOD INSTEAD* !!!

[@TheSMBZfan1]

No, and I'm happy they didn't, it separates those who hold the gun backwards and those who are gunslingers.

[@PrincessStabbityPLS]

I'm glad that out of all the possible realities in the multiverse, this instance of me exists here. Well... It could have been better. I could have existed in the one where SCH kept its dps rotation. But I guess this is the second best one.

[@calimantis]

So MCH is basically Edgar from FFVI now. I'm okay with this.

[@lmildrum]

I Came Here to Nep at You I was saying that to my FC members! Every tool Edgar has is a skill now which I thought was a great idea for this class

[@Andrew-it7fb]

@@lmildrum most anyway. There's no chainsaw skill.

[@k.f.kobold7910]

@@Andrew-it7fb Saving it for the next expansion. ;)

[@Shiirow]

@@k.f.kobold7910 gotta keep those things in reserve.

[@k.f.kobold7910]

@@Shiirow Indeedy!

[@zexnon]

This looks SO much better I am really proud of how the team reworked MCH. It desperately needed upgrading. I've leveled MCH twice and both times it was quite painful especially with how the heat gauge and gauss barrel worked. I am looking forward to giving it a second chance come Shadowbringers. Thanks for the videos!

[@bluemonster666]

I am leveling a MCH now and it is painful!! Was tempted to just give up, but the rework looks so good!

[@JDSleeper]

The big issue I have with that robot right now is that the timer starts ticking down before it's finished its summon animation and you lose five seconds of use.

[@sync198]

think they designed it that way where she really only ever does damage during the 15sec window and the 5secs is for the summon animation

[@Ryotsu2112]

Ivan Catanghal Agreed. If they were to change it due to complaints about this perceived DPS loss, all they would do is start the timer for 15 seconds after the summon animation is over.

[@OsakaLover]

I have the same complaint about Inner Shadow on DRK. It says 24, but it literally takes 6 seconds before the shadow does ANYTHING. So yeah. Hopefully that'll change come the release.

[@kyrax9462]

thats how it is for Seraph, Bahamut and Pheonix aswell, always been like that.

[@AlterRaigo]

Great video. I can say that after playing MCH exclusively during early access, it has become a BEAST!! Also, just a note, Gauss Round and Ricochet do not add damage to Wildfire since they are Abilities, not Weaposkills. So stick to Reassemble + Drill/Air Anchor (Huge critical + Direct damage), Hypercharge and Heat Blast as your main source of cumulative damage for that rotation. You'll see those 25k+ bonus damage at level 74-75. I am sure people are pulling more damage with higher ilvl gear + materia, but these results are pulled based on the basic HQ reward gear I am getting from quests. Compared to Pre-SB, Machinists now are insanely powerful out of that spike damage rotation. Just keep that heat up and weave Gauss Round and Ricochet in between your heated shots combo and OMG, you'll be in DPS heaven.

[@Shiirow]

I played SMN from 2.0 to shadowbringers and switched over to MCH because I now enjoy it a bit more. I dont recall if you could do it before but its so much fun to animation interrupt the one trick shot skill in the combo where you do a side flip to shoot. if you interrupt it at the peak of the jump with the jump key, instead of hitting the ground you do a second jump from that position so you end up doing a double jump. it has no logical use but its so much damn fun to do, especially on a lalafell.

[@Tucker0603]

PILE BUNKER ROBOT!!!! I'll be honest, I think I'm in love with the Automaton Queen... This is definitely my ranged DPS of choice now. Automaton Queen is the best Mecha Waifu.

[@littlebloodymooneporo]

now give automaton queen nier glamor along with nier event yoshi-p

[@TheSilverwing999]

Machinist looks so much more fun now. Kudos to SE.

[@robertjones8260]

No more RNG on the basic combo? No more Gauss Barrel? Wildfire now more reliable? Those changes alone would’ve made MCH 10x better...but...did you SEE the robot’s damage?!?!?! I foresee a lot of MCH in the leveling queue.

[@KennyPowers89]

You can count this guy in that number, one of things i'm most excited about with SHB

[@SynodicScribe]

I can't help it, I'm gonna be calling that robot Killer Queen from now on.

[@OhNoTheFace]

I was playing machinist before it was cool D:

[@SirRafarga]

I feel you, I been playing pld and whm since heavensward started lol

[@galloviking4766]

You mean, before your barrel was cool? XD Jokes aside - me too, and I think I'll play it again.

[@crimsonwizahd2358]

I started leveling it back in Stormblood. And while I did like the aesthetic, Shadowbringers made it SOOOO much better. Now I'm beyond proud to call it my main.

[@OhNoTheFace]

@@crimsonwizahd2358 I don't disagree

[@ilike2nap]

Well, MCH, you've been with me throughout all my episodes of tank anxiety. Time to meet the new you. Because I still have tank anxiety.

[@ItsZorroDood]

You can have tanxiety with a gun now.

[@gorz2013]

Can't wait. MCH is my ranged main and these changes are amazing! Im seriously stoked for ShB. I haven't been this excited since HW.

[@pancake7183]

2:08 5 seconds on the Automaton Queen's duration have already passed before it used a single skill. What's up with that?

[@lightdragoon88]

Really no time is lost.

[@yabbles617]

I can see the “BOB! Do something!” Macros already for whenever MCHs summon automaton queen.

[@cybernurgle6413]

And I'm not mad

[@RMD00]

Not gonna lie, was thinking of doing that very thing.

[@dragonmangames2523]

At first I thought this was a ReBoot reference, but then I realized it was Overwatch. Either way, I'm totally fine with people doing that.

[@geekmastermind]

You had me at "Steampunk cowboy." Seriously, stopped the vid right there so I could type that.

[@Checkmat8]

I know what you mean I always do tank on melee DPS but this is looking like gun Kata with mechs

[@Melon85]

Wow, this looks like the MCH i wanted to have since beginning and they even made it better ! HELL YEAH ! Bioblaster woop woop

[@NightmareDetective]

As a MCH main for years that’s eaten crap from people saying to just play Bard, I’m SO excited for these updates and extra skills. Hell yeah! MCH MAINS RISE UP 🤖

[@donovanridley1146]

Yeah screw those pretentious harp huggers. We bout to run this show! ✊

[@futoman967]

Did you tested if automaton queen attacks counted towards wildfire? I read somewhere that some of the queen attacks counts as weapon skills.

[@Sunari]

I'm super excited for this change, but I've noticed that it takes the queen about 5 seconds of its summoning before it gets to actually attack - seems similar with the dark knight shadow clone.

[@TheFoxYoukai]

Same with the scholar Seraph, its a little annoying but hopefully its something SE touches up later.

[@MrChibblez]

I'm a loyal Machinist and now I'm happyy.

[@ShinryuMasaki]

I had fun with MCH in Heavensward, but when I saw what happened to it in Stormblood I completely gave up on the class. Now these changes are so amazing I'm going back to it, and there's so much nostalgia from FF6 in some skills I just can't help it but love this new version!

[@joshstill5509]

I LOVE the ffvi upgrade this job received

[@ch0ob]

Im so hyped for this. And I liked MCH before. LOL

[@KevSlider]

Machinist is now a MAGITEK COWBOY! PEW PEW PEW

[@pod155]

Wish you would have tested the quean with wildfire

[@Atigeve]

This looks SOOO much better.

[@joeymatt4079]

Anyone notice that when you summon the queen, she spends almost a quarter of the summon time when the battery gauge is 100 locked in the summoning animation(almost half if summoned at 50), not in fact damaging the enemy?

[@SirRafarga]

If the numbers for cast times stay, it seems best to use wildfire with hypercharge as heat blast and auto crossbow only have a 1.5 gcd compared to the rest, making stacking wildfire potency a second faster at the least since they are weaponskills. Plus using ogcd weaponskills like heat shot/ancho will help.

[@SpaceElvisInc]

Automaton Queen more like KILLA QUEEN!

[@Phryguye]

Gunpowder gelatine, dynamite with a laser beam.

[@romeo8123]

HOLY FUCK i loved machinist before im loving it even more now

[@callmeobsequious]

My experience with playing FFXIV on and off FFXIV when I was young because of financial stuff (late ARR -> HW -> ShB, with bteaks in between) and never really getting to HW as a kid, I never even realized that MCH had been reworked when I started playing it recently. I ALWAYS wanted to play it as a kid and thought it was just the COOLEST thing and it was everything I hoped it would be. Little did I know that was because the jank had been removed, lol. Reading up on how it used to work, I would've _hated_ it when I was younger.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

0:10 Check out that hat/weapon clipping on official artifact gear

[@Jprime777]

Hey Larry, did you test if the Queens auto-attacks count towards Wildfire?

[@Shinnouryu]

The real question. Mr.Happy is the only one saying that but I don't see him trying it.

[@ryanbloom7]

🤤🤤🤤🤭 as a machinist just see how fast he was going waa so glorious.

[@Sorry_N_Advance]

I remember when machinist was first announced I was so happy I was so sure it was going to be my new main and then I got to try it and I was so disappointed I never touched it again but now I cannot wait to give it another try this looks so good

[@Ice-Climber]

Hey, it's Edgar!

[@FelipeXFelipeX]

Auto crossbow, bio blaster and drill ♡

[@Elsgared]

Missing the chainsaw & hockey mask!

[@_ifrit]

I played mch for so long in its current state I’m actually excited for maining the job now

[@Djinnilord]

Nice, looks really promising. Way better than what we have now at least. So will fitting five GCDs into Wildfire with late activation and high skillspeed be possible?

[@DarthMaskVG]

Probably won't even need to do late activation or high skillspeed. You just overheat and spam Heat Blast (assuming the recast of 1.5s means that it works like the RDM melee combo). That should give 6 GCDs in the 10s window if you do late activation but since overheat only lasts 8s I'm not sure that would be reliable. Regardless, 5 GCDs will be easy if the numbers stay the same.

[@NovaStrike_X]

@@DarthMaskVG not to mention if you save the charges of Gauss Round and Ricochet, thats 6 more weapon skills in a super short time

[@DarthMaskVG]

@@NovaStrike_X Gauss Round and Ricochet are Abilities, not weaponskills, so they won't count toward increasing the potency of Wildfire. I think it's likely that you will be spamming these abilities in that window regardless (due to Heat Blast's secondary effect) but they won't actually affect the potency of Wildfire itself.

[@Djinnilord]

@@DarthMaskVG True, I forgot about the 1.5 second weaponskills. Something interesting that MrHappy touches on in his video is that the Automaton Queen's attacks are also weaponskills. Wonder if they'll count for Wildfire.

[@DarthMaskVG]

@@Djinnilord Not sure. If they do that's fine (as it doesn't really change the complexity of wildfire, just means you want to have Automaton Queen active before going into Wildfire if possible) but we shall have to see!

[@McShieldBash]

BOB! DO SOMETHIN'!

[@Ushinawa95]

So same with DRK I don’t like that the time starts counting even as the “robot/shadow” is being summoned which takes away from the time of having them be useful. Maybe they should change it so that nothing is counted down till it starts attacking

[@NovaStrike_X]

I feel like i stuck with this job through all the bad, just to get it back in the end

[@thomaspirolt174]

really like Machinist now! and its cool that he got some skils from Edgar (FF6)

[@Thetracker69]

One thing I can see that needs fixing already is with Tomato Queen, her duration needs to not countdown until she's actually able to do things. It takes her like 3 seconds to be summoned and during that 3 second window she's actually losing duration. So a 14 second duration is actually 11 seconds. I'm assuming this is the same or similar with DRK's Shadow Clone Justu. Hopefully this will be fixed before launch.

[@IgnisAstrorum]

so wait, so does the rook turret operate like the queen robot? use gauge to summon it, it attacks then leaves with a big attack? or is it still a place down and keep down like it currently is?

[@LordRaven406]

Automaton Queen takes 5 seconds from the gauge before it ever starts the first attack. :(

[@HyouVizer]

Yep...slow as hell summoning animation pissing away precious 5 seconds. I really hope they change it so timer doesnt start until her first attack instead.

[@Link9164]

Hopefully fixed before full launch.

[@chickenstrangler3826]

unless it was intentionally designed to be delayed

[@denzelvilliers]

I'm working on HW MCH Relic right now, finally i have a reason to play MCH: no more bullets issue because ping and a godly robot baby 😍.

[@donovanridley1146]

Holy hell. I've played machinist the past two expansions only because I love the look of the job. But now you're telling me it's actually good and the heat gauge doesn't actively screw me? That's what I'm talkin bout.

[@dragonmangames2523]

The best part about this is not that MCH burst windows are going up (it is, true) It's that MCH's SUSTAIN IS ALSO GOING UP!

[@Rygat]

it seems like 6 seconds of the queen is wasted on it's spawning animation, i hope they change that so i'm not wasting time that could of been spent killing

[@hgjfkd12345]

What's the point of flamethrower though? Assuming over 10 seconds you can get 4 spread shots in, that's 720 potency to each enemy, plus 20 heat gauge. Flamethrower is only 700 and doesn't have any added effects

[@unit9578]

1:44: "Increases Batter Gauge[...]" Machinist is a baker now? Or a baseball player?

[@WhipLash42o]

Baseball player cause it hit this rework out of the park.

[@unit9578]

@@WhipLash42o Ahh, yes, that makes sense.

[@Kylesico912x]

I think they managed to not only keep machinist's identity but gave it a completely new one in a sense. Before it was the gunslinger with a bit of machinery thrown into the mix. Now it's all kinds of machines and tools that further bolster your dps. It feels like a actual machinist by at least FFVI's standards.

[@onidarkmoon2381]

So, they changed machinist to full on Edgar Figaro? Sweet!

[@Gharon]

Yup yup... as someone who didn't really like the old MCH but is a big FFVI fan i couldn't be more excited with these changes.

[@shinywhimsicott3047]

Wait..wait.. I can still chuck wrenches at shit,right?.... RIGHT!?..

[@TheFurrLord]

Wrenches have been... dismantled

[@shinywhimsicott3047]

@@TheFurrLord Excuse me while I go eat a Gauss Barrel ;__;...

[@Xilibrius]

Holy crap this looks so damn awesome I can't wait to finally get my machinist out of hw with the changes I see.

[@Neptune1009]

Why would they say it lasts “20” seconds when it doesn’t because of the summon animation? :( Bahamut and Phoenix work as soon as they show up

[@TheFoxYoukai]

Scholar's Seraph and Dark Knight's clone also have this problem, hopefully the animation gets touched up sooner rather than later :p

[@ViciousTriangle]

How the fuck am I supposed to choose a job to main now, every single one looks amazing

[@deepangelmx]

i will go machinist for sure this time

[@KamelGuru]

Does it play Figaro Theme? Because holy poop, this is just Edgar Figaro from FF6

[@belphe7621]

oooh, my sub leveling job looks totally great!

[@scottdunham6367]

Took 6 seconds for the Queen to summon and reach the mob... I think they need to account for that loss.

[@danieljohansson9419]

the good thing with that though is that despite the 5 second summoning animation that leaves enough time for her to be up and affect the Wildfire still :) think I saw some people somewhere mentioning that her punches add to the Wildifre dmg as they are "Weapon skills" so still have her up for 13 out of Wildifres 10 second duration ;)

[@scottdunham6367]

@@danieljohansson9419 Hmmm, Mr Happy's State of the Realm just said the robot doesn't work with Wildfire. at 33 mins in. but it could be wrong with all the changes we'll see before launch.

[@kayleesmerbeck3197]

is it worth buying a skip for this job when Shadowbringers comes out or try to level it up to 60 before

[@gundamdude8351]

I think it's really worth it. If you are really into this class. I think IL gonna buy the class skip once it's update is out

[@Electric0eye]

MY QUEEN ♥

[@d3nyd]

This looks like a ton of fun. Nothing like current MCH, and that's a very good thing.

[@Pyitoechito]

Automaton Queen’s attacks are labeled as weaponskills. Would they affect the potency of wildfire?

[@HyouVizer]

yep they totally do 😀

[@Mounthuapleb5890]

SAM vs MCH? Which is better. I have a SAM working on getting my MCH...and I wonder how good is it?

[@dakotadoyle7573]

*summons Automaton Queen* Me: HE'S GOT A STAND

[@jayr5mitty351]

Only problem I have with the auto queen is that it seems like I wastes a good 3 secs just deploying

[@k.f.kobold7910]

MCH looks pretty awesome, it's almost like playing Edgar from FF6

[@guards1992]

The problem is when u summon the automaton is not insta attacking it take 3-4 seconde for the automaton to start attacking so is not really 20seconde more ike 16 sec saddly but still looks awesome

[@KingLIFEDRAIN]

Omg the ate removing the rng?! Hell Yea I'm going to main this class now!.

[@LexysHereAfter]

Glad MCH is one of my few 70s this looks way more fun and active

[@IaconDawnshire]

Changes are perfect for my Lala alt Eclipticon as he's a proper machinist who made bots

[@helmwall133]

KILLER QUEEN!

[@chokoanders6546]

I always like making glams for mch but i dont like playing it because europe ping on american server now ill hopefully be able to use my glams

[@ArtficialFlvrz]

The moves that the Queen does, except for Pile Bunker, all count as Weaponskills and they technically still come from you, so they all add 150 to it's potency if shes up during a wildfire.

[@themadhatter9358]

OH MAYYYY

[@am_frog]

Does the queens punches add towards wildfire damage?

[@noxlumina8303]

All I can focus on is Automaton Queen pissing away 5 seconds of her uptime. They better address that.

[@FunnyTaco143]

ya so its not actually 20 seconds.

[@crimsonwizahd2358]

Actually Roller Dash (her charge in tackle move she uses when she starts attacking) does about as much damage as two punches, so it balances out.

[@TonyXJungle]

It's just Edgar from FF6 but at range. I'm sold.

[@frostger]

Noticed that it's a 20 second duration on queen but she takes nearly 5 seconds to start doing dmg. Kinda miss leading

[@anonymousxaela761]

All of us MCH mains staring at people saying they're going to main MCH now...

[@m.littsey1326]

Right?! 😂

[@Derpblade]

I've laughed my ass off when you showed that robot summon... "BOB! DO SOMETHING!" XD

[@Lorekeeper72]

Sooooooo..... Is anyone else planning on picking MCH up now? Cause I am, looks so damn fun.

[@marrlla]

Imagine that wildfire weaponskills would work with your teammates. Composition would be like; war, drk, pld (healer), gun (healer), mnk/sam, nin , drg, and mch :>

[@WaddleDee45]

But who is it that beams down the Automaton Queen for you? Who is this mysterious ally the WoL calls up to drop down a giant robot whether you're on the Source or the First? Why am I thinking so hard about this?

[@DampySenpai]

TwerpKnight maybe it’s dropped off by the ironworks but this is WoD we’re talking about now o3o

[@RogerCogumelo]

Im so playing MCH again. Honestly, all I wanted was the removal of wildfire, but I got more than I bargained for!

[@ramsez_r]

Machinist being Machinist now

[@Garudanime]

yoooo, holy shit, f* all my jobs, imma roll mch now :D

[@baines803]

You would think a flamethrower would increase your heat

[@chaosheld2830]

Let´s just think about it with wildfire working with every GCD, even from your teammates. Let´s say you have an 8-man raid, you use wildfire and in the 10 second timer, every member of your group would get in 5 GCDs. That would mean a total of 40 GCDs within 10 seconds. Multiply this with 150 potency gained for every GCD during this and you got a whooping 6000 potency! Yeah, I think that would be a little extreme xD