Giving The OG XBOX Quadruple The RAM | Never Done Before!

[@ErnestJay88]

Upgrade the CPU Upgrade the ram i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU" in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.

[@NitNek_]

Let them cook...

[@SockyNoob]

That'd require a whole different architecture lol

[@ErnestJay88]

@@SockyNoob i didn't mean "literally" but they upgrading original Xbox as powerful as X360

[@kraftypk7283]

​@@SockyNoobyou'll require a whole different architecture in a minute young man

[@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao]

If they tinkered with the development kit that used G5 PowerMacs, I believe they could create an Xbox 360 PowerMac.

[@Galavis.]

I prefer downloading more ram

[@nunyabusiness69]

The only acceptable way

[@nick-leffler]

Would you download a car?

[@outerzevin1366]

Same, but this mod will be great for people whose internet connection is too slow to download RAM efficiently!

[@EnlightenAlchemist]

It's always better.

[@dennistzortzopoulos8606]

​@@nick-leffleryep

[@otterpopdotorg]

I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.

[@modables]

i don't

[@agentoranj5858]

@@modables Go out and touch grass or something then, fucking un-virgin.

[@JustBoBoLikeABoss]

WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY

[@Rexter2k]

I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.

[@X6L-97]

There will be broken Xbox's to take parts from for a good long while.

[@TheGamersRace]

I don't think that's really the point, nor a close coming problem. Compatible ram chips are most likely still in production, and are used in low power, or low capacity computational devices. That being said, adding more deditated wam for thuh swerver is always nice.

[@alext3811]

@@TheGamersRace Yeah, you'd be surprised how many embedded systems are using cores based on Pentium era cores (system-on-a-chip) for things like restaurant bump bars, and PBXs (once upon a time anways.

[@TheGamersRace]

@@alext3811 Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the little pieces that make up old school tech….make up new school tech too. Yesterdays bleeding edge laptop is tomorrows “bump bars” as you put it.

[@nneeerrrd]

The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit

[@SocialisedMedicine]

My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.

[@talibong9518]

I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed

[@mikeyjnz]

I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?

[@TheGamersRace]

I'd say that is most likely the least problematic issue here.

[@sedrosken831]

@@mikeyjnz You're misunderstanding that concept -- that was an issue primarily with motherboard-resident cache controlled by the system chipset, lasting from the 386 era on up to the Pentium MMX for Intel, and the K6-2/III for AMD. It wasn't necessarily the cache size in and of itself but rather the Tag RAM. Once we kicked over to CPU-resident L2 cache, like on the K6-2+ and III+, every Athlon, the Pentium Pro and onward, that issue either became much less prevalent (in the case of the K6 line) or disappeared entirely. In short, you can throw as much RAM at that thing as the chipset will address and there will be no slowdown.

[@Spencer_Sp]

You’re saying there not impedance matched but I doubt it matters that much here.

[@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao]

In 2008 a forum user upgraded to 256mb using chips from a Compaq Presario, but because comparisons between 128 and 256 showed that there were no significant gains, this was left aside. Particularly, I wish there was this modification for the Xbox 360 and PS3, they clearly suffer from the memory they have, especially the PS3. As far as I remember, there was a developer version of the x360 with 1GB of RAM, but it is extremely difficult to find, and quite expensive.

[@BoDoesStuff]

Yeah, I remember when this was done on Xbox Scene. Hate seeing these fake titles.

[@awdrifter3394]

PS3 used XDR RAM, so I don't think higher capacity ram chips are as easily available.

[@Coborlwitz]

I'm sure it could benefit emulators or applications. Im sure it would never benefit regular games that much. I will say though they have released tools since for patching games for using more ram. on top of that, with the 720p patches, the games run way better on 128mb. at the end of the day idc because id only ever use xbox for games and id use a PC CRT, not an LCD.

[@BoDoesStuff]

@@Coborlwitz It was also used for media playback via XMBC

[@jm036]

there were a few PS3 dev consoles that had 512MB XDR but they physically had more chips so unless you'd like to design a new motherboard for the PS3 it's not gonna happen

[@RedBeardedGriff]

It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM

[@pavma7]

And StarCraft Ghost

[@UserX-02]

True

[@blitzerblazinoah6838]

Doom 3 as well.

[@johnbrooks6243]

R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?

[@TheCoolDave]

@@misterjeffa2128 Yea, games are designed to only use what the factory settings were, the game would have to be re-written/modded to even see the extra memory never mind use it.

[@Nihongames]

Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help + 720p patches + PC Ports or better pc ports + Texture improvement mods in games + Emulators + Sega chihiro games

[@XenonG]

Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P

[@windowsxpnt2347]

@@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked

[@windowsxpnt2347]

hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home

[@gameblabla]

There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.

[@SargentoDuke]

128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...

[@amshermansen]

Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die. The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.

[@thomashunt2240]

That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!

[@UberMicroRepairs]

not necessary.

[@aiexzs]

@@UberMicroRepairs hot air can easily blow away the tiny filtering caps on the board with how little solder there is on their pads

[@UberMicroRepairs]

@@aiexzs nah. Surface tension keeps them in place

[@ResidentIT_]

@@UberMicroRepairs ok pal

[@aiexzs]

@@UberMicroRepairs to a degree but i can confirm from personal experience they don't like to hold on very well

[@michelvanbriemen3459]

I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.

[@KennyPham]

This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.

[@Ichijoe2112]

And, almost as old now too.

[@fenriswolfretro6729]

Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.

[@ThexthSurvivor]

I was about to comment the same thing. 👍

[@SargentoDuke]

@@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.

[@weinerschnitzel7]

There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.

[@juanmillas665]

i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo

[@qsxmirage7274]

Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management ​@@weinerschnitzel7

[@trogdo0r179]

As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.

[@BartokandBadIdeas]

"Bend them down uniformly, this results in a uniform bend" 🔥

I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"

[@ChrisEbz]

I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂

[@0JayDoubleU]

😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more

[@LenoxFilms]

PrehistoricRAM

[@WayStedYou]

Both are accurate at this rate

[@brandogg]

Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.

[@Ichijoe2112]

It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for? That would likely. Be one of two things Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.

[@Puretea4711]

true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box

[@Wobble2007]

You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.

[@afewspokesloose2699]

​@@Wobble2007 That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?

[@marcelosoares7148]

​@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".

[@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta]

I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.

[@edale2]

The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod. No waste.

[@England91]

You mean like stacking them on top of each other??

[@edale2]

@@England91 that's actual the method on a v1.6 motherboard, but on v1.0-1.5 motherboards there are 4 unpopulated sets of RAM solder pads, you just need to solder the 4 RAM chips from the donor board into those 4 slots to do the 128 MB RAM upgrade. After that it's just a matter of having firmware capable of utilizing the RAM.

[@fadingbeleifs]

Why?? You can get brand new RAM chips for it today!

[@edale2]

@@fadingbeleifs For if you're like me and have 8 spare Xboxes sitting on a shelf, lol.

[@x66Hawk66x]

This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.

[@kirahirosho363]

I forget the guy but he installed a 1.4ghz P3 from a rack mount server onto the board youtube channel Retro Renegade Repairs

[@tigheklory]

Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!

[@Allgone-b4k]

Don't you mean 1.4ghz

[@SargentoDuke]

@@Allgone-b4k 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.

[@Hexauslion]

@@SargentoDuke wait there is a 1.5?? take my money.

[@Zack_F1]

Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future

[@FoxUnitNell]

Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.

[@0JayDoubleU]

Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better

[@garystinten9339]

​@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..

[@0JayDoubleU]

@@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish

[@kenabi]

i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.

[@Mr.inky213]

Hello Tito. My name is Steven, however Mr. Inky is my kitten's name !! Awesome video, I love these OG Xbox mods. They just keep coming. !! Lol

[@official_kex]

Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing

[@JoshLineberry]

256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!

[@another3997]

Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂

[@BestGirlsBiggestFan]

@another3997 It may be a good idea if you're hungry. You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.

[@shmapple29]

@@another3997it’s a step forward is how I look at it eventually we might find a way on some consoles to upgrade hardware and keep the functionality at better frame rates and or resolutions

[@syedsakifrahman3021]

@@BestGirlsBiggestFan @BlueEyedVibeChecker Since your body does not process food at over 100% efficiency, (literally impossible) you'd actually be using up more energy though blood loss and digestion processing cost. So, not a good idea but on the argument of freedom of choice, it still makes sense.

[@garystinten9339]

Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.

[@Innumerical_]

a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool. Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤

[@alexgonzales89]

This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao

[@CeeBoodrow]

Man this is an absolutely amazing channel! Good stuff man

[@DannyTan6675]

Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.

[@mattliston1215]

this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!

[@hongosorongo]

Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!

[@ffviifakeremake9997]

All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

@@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed) Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler

[@hongosorongo]

@@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*

[@Urist_Mythrilforged]

Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.

[@talibong9518]

Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives

[@nated.9545]

Came for the ram. Stayed for the smooth jazz.

[@ripoutyourintestines7029]

I’m sat here nodding along to it.

[@prototype_pandad6536]

well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel

[@novafiddler1712]

Xecuter made a bios that supports extra ram. I used the extra ram to play certain MAME roms that required the extra ram. I have a working bios for 128MB ram if you want it.

[@GameSack]

One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory. BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?

[@MattFromAmerica]

I bought my xbox new, had it stock for maybe 6 months and then promptly modded it with the help of my neighbor in 2002. I had a buddy who worked at Gamestop and they were allowed to get games early. So, I had all the latest games for free, it was amazing. I was playing Underground 2 last week. I love it.

[@dakotart1984]

Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.

[@spragzpc1]

Can't wait to see where this ram mod takes us in the future

[@LDCoronel1]

In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination

[@vas729]

Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!

[@mikem1323]

Many years ago, I bought 4 extra RAM chips for the Xbox. After the struggle to put them in, and it makes sense, there was no benefit from what I saw. The software I ran had all been designed for 64megs and had no idea the other memory was there. Maybe some emulators will be written to use it, but most of the older systems already fit into the 64 megs already installed. Would be nice to be able to make a RAM disk as a cache but that seems like a lot of work for very little return.

[@WeanaBala]

your content is a perfect mix of informative and mesmerizing! ✨

[@gabrielbraga7670]

This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.

[@Stinky0368]

Don’t stop making these videos, I love it

[@Sun-ut9gr]

Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!

[@jdownj]

The issue is that none of the accessible PCB manufacturers will do castellated edges on such a fine pitch… hence the hack

[@Sun-ut9gr]

@@jdownj That very well could be a problem. I know it's possible because I've seen fine pitch castellations, but they were on ITAR regulated assemblies.

[@jdownj]

@@Sun-ut9gr that brings up an interesting point. I have no idea if PCB technology is regulated in any way… BUT the board manufacturers that can work down to that small are probably busy doing stuff that is more profitable for them than a hobbyist project like this…

[@stevensims3342]

ICs just blow my mind. They comprise pretty much all your tech and are pretty involved to setup and configure into an assembly like a gadget.

[@AmaroqStarwind]

We have CPU upgrades, we have RAM upgrades, we have DVD ROM upgrades, and we have SSD mods… Now we just need a GPU upgrade.

[@talibong9518]

At this point we might as well go all in with a custom mobo running a modded Xbox BIOS. There must be a surplus of older CPUs and GPUs out there with similar architectures like Core2Duo and certain Nvidia GPUs that we could plop onto said board with a skt775 DDR2 memory controller and a GB or 2 of RAM

[@Ichijoe2112]

That would probably do more for Ops 1fps YooTube at 8k woes. Least we forget the XBOX basically had a gForce 2GTS Chip inside it. Which was already old by the time they put it there.

[@8bitnation419]

RTX 4090

[@u263a3]

@@AmaroqStarwind might as well buy a new PC

[@Wobble2007]

@@Ichijoe2112 The NV2A is basically a GeForce 3.5, closer to a GF4 which is a powerful GPU relative to its generation, it is more than enough for games of that era, especially considering that GPU was designed with 1024x768p to 1280x960p in mind, and the OGXB only needs to render @ 240p-480p, add to that almost zero OS overheads, fixed hardware optimizations and the bare-metal API, you could say it squeezes at least 50% more performance vs its desktop equivalent. It's just starved of RAM, unfortunately.

[@a.b.8606]

The intro is bombastic 🧨

[@alanbenson1505]

Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point. At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed! For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989. PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..

[@BawkBawkBawk666]

As someone of whom the art of soldering is lost upon, you sure did make the process look easy.

[@AcuardThe3rd]

Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?

[@JoshLineberry]

If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!

[@LEONARDOGAMER41]

you can run slighty modern games after this upgrade like, gta 4, call of duty MW2, resident evil 5, far cry 2 and much more

[@DavitTheCore]

Damn Half Life 2 might have benefitted from more RAM. Well, a Pentium 3 would be the actual upgrade that would make Half Life 2 work very well.

[@SargentoDuke]

@@DavitTheCore you can overclock every original Xbox to 900mhz fsb 133 to 166 the max of the XBOX Nforce2 chip, and HalfLife2 runs flawless even in 720p with 128mb ram... But with 256mb you can USE HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 like the PC... the only that the XBOX port lacks, it uses SD textures because of the low ram.

[@DavitTheCore]

@@SargentoDuke I guess that could very well work! I'm not sure the end result would be as good as a Pentium 3 modded Xbox (just like shown by modern vintage gamer).

[@SargentoDuke]

@@DavitTheCore Xbox had a way better Motherboard than a pentiumIII and way better optimized software

[@HeinrichDerDritte]

Very Nice Production Value!!

[@UserX-02]

What could an Xbox do with such memory

[@SILVRXIII]

Finish the video

[@R3TR0--93]

my taxes?

[@thecircuitbox]

Nothing, literally.

[@saddlesore_adventures]

Nothing useful. Each home-brew app, each game must be modified to utilize additional RAM. As there are no devs working on software patches and the mod itself is not trivial, it will never gain meaningful user-base. One day you may see some random game patched, or some app with 256mb support released, but that's it.

[@pavma7]

Run StarCraft Ghost

[@rv_jumpshotz1139]

I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console

[@chasefournier]

The PCB design is really nice! Would be really cool if you could add higher storage ram modules. Like a 512mb chip to the PCB. End up with 4gb of RAM haha

[@hexidev]

Doesnt have the same architecture so it wont work...

[@SockyNoob]

God, the OG Xbox community has never stopped progressing at all. Never died, never slumped. I wish I could say the same for other beloved consoles, but truthfully most console scenes go dead for awhile, like the PS3 community currently. And some consoles have yet to have a vibrant homebrew and modding community, like fact the Neo Geo Pocket Color has no modding or homebrew development aside from IPS and flash cart mods. Makes me wonder what exactly keeps the OG Xbox community still thriving.

[@technocolossus]

Impractical, but why am I tempted to do it all the same? Who can I tell to shut up and take my money?

[@Wally17.]

Yeah, me too.

[@sapphostreaming]

always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!

[@vguyver2]

So we have a mod now for both a faster processer and more Ram for less faster loading and less crashes. Just something as a console gamer that throws me off since I am very old school.

[@DaiAtlus79]

i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!

[@Moved2Rumble]

You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.

[@BlankCanvas222]

There aren't a lot of videos about the old Xbox so whenever I see one I gotta watch it

[@rtbear674]

I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.

[@sunman2566]

There's an Xbox emulator?

[@brode562]

almost 20 minute video and you're not gonna show any games running with the ram upgrade? not gonna show 720p video playing on it at full speed? what a waste of time.

[@joshsimpson1739]

😊😊

[@NotTheRealBBC]

Agreed. A lot of fluff dressed up nice

[@SargentoDuke]

720p needs a CPU upgrade to run... or overclock the stock CPU to 900mhz, or change the CPU to 1ghz or more with a 370 interpoder, that is WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS RAM UPGRADE, having a new ram modules that are DDR2 adapted for the original xbox is awesome, as its a "new part" not like the CPU that are "limited old hardware". Anyway, all XBOX can run at 900mhz even 1ghz from stock, overclocking by software. There are no patches for use that ram, but for example games like MORROWIND you can use 256mb de ram to increase the VIEW DISTANCE.

[@codyisrude]

It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done Seamus Blackley is smiling right now

[@KenjiiD]

Think this is the earliest I've ever caught a video after upload😂

[@sokola311]

I feel like I was at 'The Green Mill' Jazz Club watching this. Perfect.

[@doodlebroSH]

Recommend spending a little more time finding an actual use case to demo this. Playing an 8K video is an utterly useless benchmark.

[@another3997]

Which is exactly what he said in the video... but he also said, there's nothing that can take advantage of the extra RAM at this time. I guess listening and comprehension aren't your strong points. 😆

[@chriskalkman3815]

This will be good for people who just need replacement RAM chips.

[@alectrona6400]

5 views in one minute? bro fell off

[@notimportant3033]

3 likes in 3 minutes? Blud fell off

[@Maximus20778]

Why so toxic

[@alectrona6400]

@@Maximus20778 it's a joke :/

[@MINDSPARK-u6e]

_If it was not for the calming music, I probably would not have watched this video all the way through_

[@123cooldude500]

Fun fact: There's a certain model of PlayStation 1 (SCPH-5000) that you can upgrade to 8MB of RAM for better homebrew compatibility.

[@mirrakirra]

Pretty sure this has been done before, but it's still rare and difficult. Good job accomplishing this.

[@exnihilo1910]

Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!

[@Reelphresh]

The patience you have to fully solder in place.

[@sethinneon]

Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing

[@AliYassinToma]

Bro has the sickest intro on youtube

[@Em.P14]

i am astonished that this works from both hardware and software standpoints

[@107bande]

Now that the 1GHz CPU Upgrade and the HDMI mod and we got a perfect Xbox

[@BartokandBadIdeas]

This really makes me want to dig out my old xbox

[@axlefoley6330]

We were so preoccupied with whether we could that we didn't stop to think if we should.

[@mangotango76pulp59]

Thanks prehistoric man for saving this guy's video.😅

[@KarlosKlaro]

Very really nice project. This is something that I think about to do in Various consoles like Ps1.

[@Doyle69]

Great video once again. Just a tip when using the hot air gun, the nozzle you had on, although it worked, it can be a pain as the hot air is narrowed down to a small spot, for something like the RAM chips, its actually much better to have no nozzle at all or a large one, that way you get more surface coverage and will lift in one with less chance of pulling/tearing off a trace.

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

Might feel like god to be an expert at hot air nozzles and nick-picking others with your special knowledge.

[@Doyle69]

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[@Theoldenmage]

​@@user-yk1cw8im4hstop being rude, big nozzle = wider area, it's like a hose. It doesn't take a gods knowledge to know that, just simple physics

[@Doyle69]

@@Theoldenmage That guy clearly doesn't watch or listen to the videos, I hear a lot "Im not an expert in soldering, any tips will be helpful" and you know.. someone thinks i'm been a "god"... I just don't entertain people with a sad life that they have to put others down for helping in future projects, damned if you, damned if you don't with them kind of people.

[@hiRyan329329]

I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it

[@sligek447]

Excellent video and exciting topic. I heard about a CPU mod a while ago. It consists in replacing the original 733 Mhz CPU with a 1.4 GHz. According to what I could see, this CPU upgrade would require the 128MB RAM upgrade (or use a Debug Kit or Dev Kit XBOX since both have 128MB installed by default) as the new CPU performs much better with that amount of RAM rather than just 64. I wonder if this CPU upgrade could be considered as a complementary project to this 256MB RAM upgrade.

[@mysteryguy7716]

There are actualy a lot of versions of this chip. This is the F33 and F2 is the fastest up to 500MHz with 1000Mbps. You should also try the 1.4Ghz Pentium III Upgrade

[@sharoyveduchi]

ReactOS can run on the original Xbox. 256MB of RAM is more than enough for a normal ReactOS install on a normal PC. If ReactOS got further support, it could eventually be an option for treating your Xbox like a Windows XP PC

[@kir0nz]

I started a game where every time I hear solder or soldering pronounced with 2 D's instead of an L and D. I am now perpetually drunk.

[@bkims]

These interposers are quite cool and definitely have applications outside of xbox upgrades. Many retro devices using that the SGram or SDram package type could possibly take advantage of them. Retro graphics cards for example.

[@logicplague]

Me before: how the hell is he going to solder all of those by hand? Me after: ARE YOU SERIOUS?! It's that easy?!

[@VikingZeroReviews]

This is the type of stuff I would do if I could I love upgrading old stuff and still playing old games on it

[@secondleasegamer8312]

Time to do an Ultimate Xbox with 256mb RAM Overclocked with a 1.4ghz CPU and a 1tb SSD + CFW, oh and that new HDMI Mod.

[@EirikrTinkerTries]

I’ve heard of 128MB upgrades but never 256MB! This is amazing! Do… do… you do mail-in upgrades for disabled fans? Not to mention the ultimate 1+GHz CPU upgrades (1.5GHz) Then a 4TB SSD upgrade, upgrade the VRAM, a Blu ray optical drive, and dual boot the mod launcher/or Linux or FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD. Biggest issue rn is needing someone to reverse engineer the nvidia driver / hardware to properly merge it into the Mesa or Mesa Amber nouveau project for OpenGL acceleration on Linux/*BSD, etc. (Honestly would love to see SerenityOS with X11+Mesa full 2D/3D acceleration) So then… run one of those operating systems on here… and then have an Xbox emulator running on that… so emulating the games on upgraded native hardware via a UNIX-like OS that also gives us a full desktop OS experience to be used as a Plex front end, TUI Discord frontend, and many more modern but light weight solutions.

[@jooei2810]

That is some nice soldering action!

[@dmxdxl]

Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...

[@nothingelse1520]

Thief Deadly Shadows had the levels cut in half with loading zones because the OG Xbox RAM was so low. On the PC version there is a mod to remove the loading zones completely, hypothetically if you mod the BIOS to see the RAM the PC mod could be ported to the XBox version.