Macintosh SE Restoration and SD-2-SCSI upgrade

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The 8-Bit Guy

The 8-Bit Guy

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@LGR
@LGR 8 жыл бұрын
Man, these restorations are supremely satisfying. I've got one of those Floppy Emu devices you showed at 16:20, it's a great little investment for all sorts of Apple machines!
@moonbeam112
@moonbeam112 7 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews how has nobody replied to lgr? also these restorations are supemely satisfying
@mountains121000
@mountains121000 7 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews you seem familiar... I feel like I’ve seen you in blue television games
@deadkefir
@deadkefir 7 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews and i think Druaga1 also has one of those.
@trafficracer124
@trafficracer124 7 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews I like old computers :D
@TopazTK
@TopazTK 7 жыл бұрын
OMG Someone knows Druaga1. It would be good if The 8-Bit Guy was actually aware of him [Dunno if he is, but still.] Druaga1 can show David say, how does he write all sorts of Mac Floppies and solve most issues David has, and of course, vice-versa.
@ILikeStyx
@ILikeStyx 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely smart to warn people about the possibility of a high voltage discharge from the CRT...
@trashcarfj45
@trashcarfj45 5 жыл бұрын
If he didn’t they would learn the hard way
@noahhunt871
@noahhunt871 5 жыл бұрын
If he didnt they would be dead lol
@UnclBerry
@UnclBerry 4 жыл бұрын
12yrs on yt
@johnwhitmore3956
@johnwhitmore3956 4 жыл бұрын
It's a black-and-white, so there's no shadow mask (that's why color CRTs have high charge storage). The probe-with-grounded-screwdriver and mounting a drain wire is still recommended.
@UnclBerry
@UnclBerry 4 жыл бұрын
@From the Soil thanks?
@aurance
@aurance 3 жыл бұрын
I never realized just how soothing it is to watch someone restore old computers.
@loughkb
@loughkb 7 жыл бұрын
I used to service these back in the early 90's. One other thing you want to look at on these old macs is the analog board. Specifically, the solder connections under the flyback transformer. They used to crack around the pins from the heat and screens would flicker and go dark. I never worked on one that didn't need those connections reflowed.
@PotatoFi
@PotatoFi 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Macintosh SE with a screen that doesn't work (eBay). I'm hoping that the brightness is turned down, or it's the problem you described.
@PotatoFi
@PotatoFi 6 жыл бұрын
It ended up a broken leg at component L1 on the analog board!
@ahah1785
@ahah1785 5 жыл бұрын
wow even back then macs had heat issues and planned obsolescence in mind...amazing...
@weeardguy
@weeardguy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahah1785 There was no such thing as planned obsolescence back then. Computers were far too expensive in those times to deliberately choose B-grade components or cut corners in the design in such a way a suitable component would be stressed towards its SOA's. Bad solder joints around pins from the flyback transformers due to heat was a rather common issue in those days. Flyback transformers just ran rather warm and at some point, the solder will give. Many TV's suffered the same problem.
@alainportant6412
@alainportant6412 4 жыл бұрын
@@weeardguy the solder connections under the flyback transformer
@chaseratliff5743
@chaseratliff5743 6 жыл бұрын
Never been much of a PC/electronic enthusiast but I can’t stop watching these restorations. It’s nice to learn about old school electronics like this and you explain everything so nicely and straightforward.
@Jordio
@Jordio 7 жыл бұрын
So glad I wasn't the only one that jumped when he popped the CRT cap off LOL
@DougAraujo
@DougAraujo 6 жыл бұрын
man i almost died when he did that
@mryan89
@mryan89 6 жыл бұрын
Relax, it's way less dangerous than people seem to think. The worst you'll get is a nasty shock.
@susancorgi
@susancorgi 6 жыл бұрын
yes yes hahahaha
@un_simp1127
@un_simp1127 6 жыл бұрын
same
@christophergalitis6713
@christophergalitis6713 6 жыл бұрын
i almost shit my pants
@mildgrooveon
@mildgrooveon 6 жыл бұрын
"oi, the guy is out there massaging cream on his computer parts again." - a concerned neighbour
@jnmarketing108
@jnmarketing108 6 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@gerald4027
@gerald4027 5 жыл бұрын
@@vek7933.That explains it.The sheep in Texas ware chastity belts.
@charredsteak6367
@charredsteak6367 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@charredsteak6367
@charredsteak6367 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Walker I think you need a full 10 minute explanation of what a joke is.
@GenNuki
@GenNuki 5 жыл бұрын
"This is my computer, I can do whatever I want with it." - David in response
@walkthelineable
@walkthelineable 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine in 30 years time, 8-bit guy restoring the very device your watching this on in present day, as an antiquated system. From your mind i suppose!
@oscarvch
@oscarvch 6 жыл бұрын
walkthelineable the 64-bit guy
@nathantaylor2026
@nathantaylor2026 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. My computer will be 40 yrs old then. (Apple OS support for Mojave is amazing, even though my computer isn't technically supported being a mid 2009 MacBook Pro.
@Fearagen
@Fearagen 5 жыл бұрын
Year: 2049 8-bit guy: Here we have an old ancient rtx 2080 gaming build from 30 years ago. It does run an old operating system called windows 10. So lets see if we can restore this old machine to brand new condition.
@ThomasFarquhar2
@ThomasFarquhar2 5 жыл бұрын
My Nokia will never die
@mehdimos8497
@mehdimos8497 4 жыл бұрын
at the time he is not 8-bit guy anymore he is upgraded to 8-Gig guy
@ericleonhuertamanzanilla4262
@ericleonhuertamanzanilla4262 5 жыл бұрын
What I admired is the candid way you present your original hypothesis and that you found it was not true. It is a huge learning lesson, not just about the incompatible card, but your professional way to present it. Telling others something does not work is a huge contribution to someone interested in something similar.
@vegantoclafane
@vegantoclafane 5 жыл бұрын
I can watch your videos and listen to your explanations for hours. You are one of the nicest and friendliest persons on KZbin.
@the8-bitnerd712
@the8-bitnerd712 8 жыл бұрын
its odd that the two best nerds on youtube live so close to each other
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 8 жыл бұрын
Three, if you count the guy he took that C128 to.
@MP-Fin
@MP-Fin 8 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Techmoan? Way out in the UK?
@markwilliammandigers1001
@markwilliammandigers1001 8 жыл бұрын
TECHMOAN, thought he is more an audio guy, like his vid's
@MP-Fin
@MP-Fin 8 жыл бұрын
Mark William Mandigers good point :)
@MeniscusKing
@MeniscusKing 8 жыл бұрын
LGR is pretty great as well
@shreeharibharadwaj9531
@shreeharibharadwaj9531 8 жыл бұрын
the suction cup pop scared me
@oldgoodrandomroutine
@oldgoodrandomroutine 8 жыл бұрын
s a me D:
@piplup2009
@piplup2009 8 жыл бұрын
CALL ME ASG same, good job it wasn't in 3d
@shreeharibharadwaj9531
@shreeharibharadwaj9531 8 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@shreeharibharadwaj9531
@shreeharibharadwaj9531 8 жыл бұрын
ikr is was a bot spooky
@pedrovieira8602
@pedrovieira8602 8 жыл бұрын
It's was like a jump scare XD
@VirtualRobotsRevolt
@VirtualRobotsRevolt 7 жыл бұрын
I have proof the SCSI2SD card works in a Mac SE. I have done it. Mine didn't work either until changed the name of the drive to "seagate" and a few other options. Also I booted up the machine first with floppies then formatted the drive within System 6. You can't (at least with mine) simply drag and drop files to the sd card. The way I'm able to get files onto the Mac SE and upload to my pc is through ADTpro with use of my Apple IIGS and the 3.5 floppy drive. Also make sure the files are good for transfer relabeling them from ".disk" to ".po". I'm able to make floppy images for it using minimac emulator.
@PrimeTF
@PrimeTF 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully when his Mac SE SCSI dies again, he'll see this message.
@ChrisNova777
@ChrisNova777 5 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt call that "working" sorry; if u cant drag + drop files thats pretty useless imho
@MrDegsy69
@MrDegsy69 4 жыл бұрын
Virtual Robots Revolt that is a pretty valid solution. Apple tended to lock down all their 68000 macs with ROM protection chips. Their own branded SCSI drives would be no exception to this rule. I remember once getting a third party SCSI optical CD drive to work with a res edit script hack.
@VirtualRobotsRevolt
@VirtualRobotsRevolt 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisNova777 its on flash memory now which can last a ton longer and far more reliable than a spinning hard disk drive.
@danielm6507
@danielm6507 Жыл бұрын
The SE was my first computer at 4 years old, got it back in the 90s when it was already dated, and kept it to this day. I've been hesitant to dive into the rabbit hole of restoration, but you and Action Retro etc have motivated me to dive in.. Thanks for all the effort that goes into making these videos.
@enshk79
@enshk79 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. You are like the coolest nerd on KZbin. So much respect!
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 7 ай бұрын
You prune,cooling people a nerd is not nice
@ModernVintageGamer
@ModernVintageGamer 8 жыл бұрын
great video as always David! one tip i for discharging a crt. i wouldn't trust an alligator clip to hold on the screwdriver, i usually remove the alligator clip and wrap wire around the screwdriver. I've been bitten when the clip came off the screwdriver in the past :\
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 2 жыл бұрын
You should have more trust
@jorgemtds
@jorgemtds 8 жыл бұрын
Even though the project didn't turn out as expected I loved the entire process.
@PatWizard
@PatWizard 8 жыл бұрын
You know you're pro when you have sheets of aluminum "lying around"
@benammiswift
@benammiswift 5 жыл бұрын
and a wife that just happens to have tooling to help bend metal hahaha, that's something to aspire to
@benammiswift
@benammiswift 5 жыл бұрын
@Alan hughes I mean, last I checked, Aluminium was a metal
@benammiswift
@benammiswift 5 жыл бұрын
@Alan hughes Granted Ali is quite easy to bend if it's not work hardened
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 4 жыл бұрын
@@benammiswift In NZ we train cows to beat it with rubber mallets. We call the resulting product Moo-hammered Ali.
@DirectorsGarage
@DirectorsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
This is long, but here goes: I've been working on an SE/30 restoration. My machine has a perfect motherboard with no leaking capacitors and a highly valued ethernet card. Your video has inspired me to go all the way on restoring the case, keyboard, and mouse with a peroxide solution. It's not surprising that you're having a nightmare putting software on that SD card. It's painful since HFS isn't supported by any machine after Jaguar. Don't ask how I know! I'm sure you know old software is available at a number of sites for free (my favorite price). Getting software installed was a painful step-by-step process. I had a modern Mac to download the basic drivers for upgrading the system-- but you have to write them to an IBM formatted floppy, which obliterates the file name. It's a roll the dice scenario whether the System 7 software can figure out what to do. Some files work, others, notsomuch. I tried networking a modern MacPro to the SE/30. It would log on fine, but again, HFS left the internal drive unreadable and unwritable. Darn it. But I did get the drivers to load a Zip drive-- which ups your content to 100MB and speeds things along. I dug out an old Yosemite G3 Mac, but it had no drive and the internal battery had exploded. A clean up and new battery got it working. I cannibalized an old external IDE drive and installed OS 9.2 from an old CD installer-- surprised I still had it. The G3 talks to the SE/30 with no problem over FTP, but it's not very fast at file transfers. That's where the Zip drive becomes invaluable. OS 9.2 is better at navigating the internet than OS 7, but many pages fail to load since Java is ancient on these machines. But an open source community retrofitted Mozilla for OS 9, called Classzilla. Viola! Downloads are pouring in-- over to zip-- over to the SE/30. Done. Because the G3 has USB native, I suspect loading up your flash drive should be done on an OS 9 machine. I'm not done yet. I have a flakey power cable to the hard drive. I need to locate a replacement with the proper pins. I'm interested in some of your friend's upgrades. They look like fun-- or a pain-- if you're into that kind of thing.
@alhartman66
@alhartman66 6 жыл бұрын
One trick to transfer files from a PC to a Mac is to use a Mac Emulator on the PC (Fusion PC or SoftMac from Emulators Inc, Executor from ARDI, or Sheepshaver and Basilisk II), use Stuffit to compress the files into an archive that preserves the Macintosh file attributes, and then you can use HFV Explorer to copy the archive from the hard disk image the Emulator uses onto a PC floppy and transfer that to your Mac.
@beansama7752
@beansama7752 5 жыл бұрын
You just reminded me that my cousin has an Atari Jaguar (which worked perfectly fine!) I'm not sure if he still has it but I may ask him!
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 4 жыл бұрын
HFS is completely irrelevant. The Mac is trying to format it from scratch and failing. Something more basic is wrong there. Either the adaptor board isn't lying about the drive type properly - and the Mac rejects it - or quite likely the SCSI controller chip is B0rked. BTW I note that David didn't replace any electrolytic caps on the board :-/
@timgore829
@timgore829 5 жыл бұрын
Oh the hours I spent on my SE. You brought back great memories.
@Egeexyz
@Egeexyz 8 жыл бұрын
SD-to-SCSI? That is awesome. I had no idea these things existed
@TopazTK
@TopazTK 7 жыл бұрын
Even SD-2-IEC Exists.
@schubutz
@schubutz 6 жыл бұрын
I so need this for my old Akai Multitrack...
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 6 жыл бұрын
Now there is an interesting idea! Then again isn't it easier to just get a new virtual multitrack (software) that runs on a ne er computer for about $300? Do You have a lot of old projects in some kind of unique format , that you would have to transfer out of the Akai in real time? What format does the Akai use to record?
@BrainSlugs83
@BrainSlugs83 6 жыл бұрын
They make IDE ones too! (A lot of folks are using the Compact Flash adapters; but they totally make SD card ones too, which are just plain better, IMHO).
@user-ro1cc8tz6d
@user-ro1cc8tz6d 5 жыл бұрын
Hi egee! Lets benchmark kde in this
@AbraxasTheSecond
@AbraxasTheSecond 8 жыл бұрын
Typo at 4:58. "Postive" instead of "Positive". I also just want to say these videos are of great quality and are in general awesome!
@isaacandersen1
@isaacandersen1 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents have one of these that works completely fine, I feel like doing some preemptive maintenance next time I’m there.
@jrmorgan123
@jrmorgan123 5 жыл бұрын
I serviced Mac SEs when they were new and tons of other CRT based computers and monitors. Your method for discharging the CRT is sound and I like that you demonstrated how to do it. Another tip you didn't mention: remove ALL jewelry (wedding rings, etc) whenever working with high voltage. Things get really fun when you have to make picture adjustments with the system on.
@PaulKostrzewa
@PaulKostrzewa 6 жыл бұрын
Your attention to even the smallest of details never ceases to amaze me... I admire your thoroughness!
@shafayet.1
@shafayet.1 7 жыл бұрын
2:44 Wow, that battery is ancient. How amazing. "Anyway, I ordered a new one on eBay for $8." ._.
@ThomasFarquhar2
@ThomasFarquhar2 4 жыл бұрын
._.
@lukeonuke
@lukeonuke 3 жыл бұрын
.o.
@jesse_cantcook
@jesse_cantcook 3 жыл бұрын
I had that same reaction lol ._.
@fribigy47
@fribigy47 3 жыл бұрын
._.
@MannoulaZ
@MannoulaZ 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 8 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs' ghost is making sure you can't use old Macs, so you'll have to buy a new one.
@beedslolkuntus2070
@beedslolkuntus2070 5 жыл бұрын
Paradoxical Nightmare lol nicely written😂
@brian4waste
@brian4waste 5 жыл бұрын
Paradoxical Nightmare yup, business is business.
@Pommezul
@Pommezul 5 жыл бұрын
No problem at all, just buy a new one for only US$ 3999.99, it is a bargain.
@AarmOZ84
@AarmOZ84 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have a grin so you know that isn't Steve's Macintosh.
@darexm
@darexm 5 жыл бұрын
I've had experience with this exact issue and managed to get my Quantum HDD working by holding it by my side and swirling it fast clockwise then anti-clockwise. You may need to perform this multiple times to free up the motor. It will free up the bearing and if there’s a valid OS install it should boot. There was a firmware update you could burn to the Eprom back in the late 80s that addressed this issue.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 4 жыл бұрын
How? Parking the drive properly before the power went right down? Very hard to believe that wasn't a standard feature.
@MrDegsy69
@MrDegsy69 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Barraud he would not be able to do any of the following if the head was stuck to the platter? He was simply freeing up a stiff motor bearing by making the platter jerk through forced enertia. Believe me a head crash sticks like shit to a blanket and involves opening the drive in a filtered air clean room conditions to allow you to spin the platter counter clockwise from the hub whilst you gently pull the head assembly clear with some sort of hook. The drive is in logan time after this and should be recovered ASAP.
@henrymonroy9533
@henrymonroy9533 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your attention to the details. Shows a passion for your pass time.
@xTechnoPhoenix
@xTechnoPhoenix 6 жыл бұрын
Hey 8-Bit-Guy I just wanted to say thank you for your videos. It really calms me down after a hard day of work to watch you doing a restoration. Please keep going.
@NoobaGutt
@NoobaGutt 8 жыл бұрын
wow, i love the fact that you are uploading new vids much faster now.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair.. I've been working on these last two videos over the course of the last 2 weeks.
@gplechuckiii
@gplechuckiii 6 жыл бұрын
it's been over a year and a half, time to finish this project.
@Connie_TinuityError
@Connie_TinuityError 3 жыл бұрын
4 years now
@cheasea
@cheasea 6 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are a top level nerd. You, Sir, must be really fun to hang out with. Thanks for all the great videos.
@freddaniali
@freddaniali 6 жыл бұрын
David is a genius! One of the best retro techs that I have ever seen!
@SkyGameZZZZ
@SkyGameZZZZ 7 жыл бұрын
I like that you are restoring the old classics You are a good person for restoring old classics
@SMVvids
@SMVvids 8 жыл бұрын
No need to Replace the Hard Drive. When I got my '87 SE, it only booted off of a floppy. I accidentally ran into a door frame with it, and voila, the Hard drive began to work again.
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 8 жыл бұрын
Those of us in the 'tech trade call that "Percussive Maintenance". Give it a few hard whacks until it works. Probably the hard drive was like the brakes on a car that's been sitting for a few months... the head had "locked up", and the collision with the door frame knocked it loose.
@SonicHacki
@SonicHacki 8 жыл бұрын
SpearM3064 Yeah, some HDDs have a stiction problems.
@SpearM3064
@SpearM3064 8 жыл бұрын
I've got an HDD that won't work because of stiction unless you turn it on its side. Then it works perfectly. (Fortunately, I use it in a hot-swappable external drive housing that just happens to be designed to stand on its side.)
@fordmavericksosx3569
@fordmavericksosx3569 8 жыл бұрын
Lol that's cool! Does anyone sell hard drives for old Macs anymore?
@SonicHacki
@SonicHacki 8 жыл бұрын
Ford Mavericks OS X yes, but it's going to be costly and may not be worth it, as those drives are getting old and more unreliable. Which is the main reason why David wanted to switch to a SCSI-SD adapter.
@defalt45
@defalt45 7 жыл бұрын
Uh... Isn't the SD card's write-protection lock enabled?
@somethingoriginal987
@somethingoriginal987 5 жыл бұрын
Eh.
@Twometer
@Twometer 5 жыл бұрын
I think it is... look 1:03
@compzac
@compzac 5 жыл бұрын
Problem, the computer locked up on a compact flash solution as well, then theres that he was able to write an OS using Apple Pie baker and it still locked up, the write protect would have prevented that, and compact flash card dont have write protect tabs.
@itepk0522
@itepk0522 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That could be the problem.
@wojciechkuske242
@wojciechkuske242 5 жыл бұрын
No physical protection inside card. Write protection is just signal for card reader. So it can be ignored on port side.
@catlover10192
@catlover10192 5 жыл бұрын
"Attaches just like an old vacuum tube" Well, it is an old vacuum tube. CRTs are just a very specialized application of the same technology.
@mannys9130
@mannys9130 5 жыл бұрын
Sorta kinda. A CRT is an electron gun that's aimed across the screen very quickly by magnetic field coils. Vacuum tubes in the traditional sense do accelerate electrons that are boiled off the cathode, but they just use grids and screens and no complex aiming or phosphorescence is involved at all. The magic eye tubes would be the natural intermediate between say, a pentode and a CRT.
@CTMKD
@CTMKD 4 жыл бұрын
Did both of you think he didn't know this?
@nemoskull2262
@nemoskull2262 6 жыл бұрын
i am alwasy impressed at the quality of work in restoring this stuff.
@TechNerd51
@TechNerd51 2 жыл бұрын
I love how creative you are with the intros!
@GeorgeWilkins
@GeorgeWilkins 8 жыл бұрын
Jump scare at 5:39. I actually jumped.
@sergiomanxeraa
@sergiomanxeraa 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too
@tylerhottes6760
@tylerhottes6760 8 жыл бұрын
sergiomanxeraa not me! I wasn't gonna jump!
@MarshallMathersthe7th
@MarshallMathersthe7th 8 жыл бұрын
Lol, glad im not the only one.
@Jono953
@Jono953 8 жыл бұрын
XD me too
@Bruno-hd9qo
@Bruno-hd9qo 8 жыл бұрын
BigStarGamer I was expecting an explosion or something lol
@ZeroG84
@ZeroG84 8 жыл бұрын
I got to around 13 minutes and was thinking... Did he remove the write protection from the SD-card. :O
@zapoww
@zapoww 7 жыл бұрын
you got me to think the same thing :O
@TopazTK
@TopazTK 7 жыл бұрын
if he didn't, he wouldn't be able to bake it with PiBaker.
@Noname-hj3wo
@Noname-hj3wo 7 жыл бұрын
Oh... my... god....
@OopsieGoopsie
@OopsieGoopsie 7 жыл бұрын
i've done that before, it sucks.
@dracodrago
@dracodrago 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe he could check the read/write switch and check a new SD card?
@whoeveriam0iam14222
@whoeveriam0iam14222 8 жыл бұрын
why is this so entertaining? it's literally a guy cleaning an old pc XD similar to pressure washing I guess
@danibanani15
@danibanani15 8 жыл бұрын
whoeveriam0iam14222 idk why it is so entertaining. maby you like stuff like this
@Kspcs909
@Kspcs909 8 жыл бұрын
whoeveriam0iam14222 exactly :Q__
@knutove626
@knutove626 8 жыл бұрын
Well. It is the way everything is represented that is so nice and tidy.
@TNX255
@TNX255 8 жыл бұрын
Well at least I had never seen inside an old Macintosh SE, let alone tried to get a SCSI to SD -adapter working on one.
@MarshallMathersthe7th
@MarshallMathersthe7th 8 жыл бұрын
Because.. its the 8-bit guy.. he is entertaining in itself you know, no matter, as long as it is computer stuff.
@theoveranalysticjake378
@theoveranalysticjake378 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but this is one of my favorite videos of The 8-Bit Guy.
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt 6 жыл бұрын
I have just ordered a Macintosh II and a Macintosh SE to add to my projects. As far as the SE is concerned, thanks for doing all the hard work yourself first so I'll have a guide to follow. ;)
@DarrenD777
@DarrenD777 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AND ALL THE OTHER REFURB PROJECTS YOU DO! This takes me back to when I was in my 20's and I used to hang out at a friend of the family who's dad was a doctor and he let me use their Mac and the internet (back in the mid-90's it was still dial up LOL (no, I don't think they didn't had a DSL line)). They had a Mac that looked similar to this one (with MYST no less) until a few years later they bought a newer model with a COLOR SCREEN! LOL. Man! That Mac was soooo cool! Thanks again man! And KEEP GOING!! Woohoo!
@TechDeals
@TechDeals 8 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, thank you for uploading, I watched every minute of it!
@joakimsveenflatten4749
@joakimsveenflatten4749 8 жыл бұрын
I was born in 2001 and the oldest pc i have used was one from around 1998 i think, it's so cool to see all these old computers and stuff!
@joakimsveenflatten4749
@joakimsveenflatten4749 8 жыл бұрын
ikr! I love these kinds of videos
@sebastienberger2890
@sebastienberger2890 8 жыл бұрын
Youe are so young! You are born after the 911?
@joakimsveenflatten4749
@joakimsveenflatten4749 8 жыл бұрын
No, i was born in june 2001
@joakimsveenflatten4749
@joakimsveenflatten4749 8 жыл бұрын
wtf!? It looks like a bubble xD
@joakimsveenflatten4749
@joakimsveenflatten4749 8 жыл бұрын
I have tried both ps1 and ps2 and i must say i think they are awesome!
@altra972
@altra972 5 жыл бұрын
I love these old electronic restoration videos you do. Thanks for the very well put together video!
@wakaziar9373
@wakaziar9373 6 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the most enjoyable thing to watch on the Internet
@THEtechknight
@THEtechknight 8 жыл бұрын
Ive worked on dozens of macs over the years, with modern storage as well as original storage. I have found that Lido is your best bet, next being silverlining. I use an SE with a SCSI2SD without issue. Just so your aware. YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR PARTITIONS 1.8GB or under! or it will NOT work.
@fezdetritus
@fezdetritus 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. I have an original SE (low density version) which I have used with the AztecMonster CF to SCSI adapter, the SCSI2SD (older version with the red board), and also the Floppy Emu. All work fine. I always initialize with Lido, and use 1 gb CF and SD cards.
@jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343
@jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343 6 жыл бұрын
Classic Amiga's have a similar partition size limit of 4GB. Various upgrades and patches have broken the 4GB barrier but if you are starting from scratch, it's something to keep in mind.
@icwiz
@icwiz 8 жыл бұрын
10:10 Why not use a hot glue gun? That would seem to be less of a pain.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 8 жыл бұрын
I've had less than stellar experience with hot glue.. It is good for certain applications, though.
@pinfarmer
@pinfarmer 8 жыл бұрын
icwiz hot snot is bad
@ameliagrex767
@ameliagrex767 8 жыл бұрын
Jacob Helton sally beauty salon
@lixielabs
@lixielabs 8 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't - the heat inside the machine can probably soften it enough to break the bond.
@dave4shmups
@dave4shmups 8 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that Apple shirt? It's really cool!
@TheComputerGuy96
@TheComputerGuy96 8 жыл бұрын
After that talk about electrocution, 5:40 made me jump.
@piplup2009
@piplup2009 8 жыл бұрын
theComputerGuy96 I thought there was going to be a big spark so I jumoed
@Bobvanksy
@Bobvanksy 8 жыл бұрын
Would be kinda sureal if he actually uploaded and edited the video after an electrocution. "We'll that didn't go as planned, I was knocked out for several hours and lost motor control on my right side, we'll deal with that later, luckily the screen still seem to function..."
@vicr123
@vicr123 8 жыл бұрын
I think the screen would be the least of his problems :)
@yourlocalkirby
@yourlocalkirby 8 жыл бұрын
Victor Tran oh hey
@vicr123
@vicr123 8 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Olle Hello :)
@brianbaker6534
@brianbaker6534 4 жыл бұрын
I know The 8-Bit Guy has over a million subscribers but he is still very underrated and I am so glad I found his channel
@Bagabani998
@Bagabani998 Жыл бұрын
Watching these teardown videos, I realise I could be dead right now. I cleaned up an old CRT with a brush, wiping the inside dust with my hand and turning it on from time to time if it still worked.... Thank God I'm ok and I learned how to properly deal with old computers!
@Zipzeolocke
@Zipzeolocke 6 жыл бұрын
I believe this was the Macintosh computer that was used for my elementary school computer labs in the early 1990s. We played a lot of edutainment games on it like math blaster and stuff
@ljharnish
@ljharnish 5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised no one tries to steal his parts when he retrobrights
@mannys9130
@mannys9130 5 жыл бұрын
What's the street value of a 30 year old yellow piece of obsolete tech plastic covered in oxidizer? 🤔 That might get you like, 1 teeny tiny crystal of meth from a dealer into old tech like that. 🤣
@nicholasgawler-collins5754
@nicholasgawler-collins5754 4 жыл бұрын
They'd be more weirded out by what he's doing to the case.
@IRMacGuyver
@IRMacGuyver 4 жыл бұрын
@@mannys9130 It's about tree fiddy
@MrDegsy69
@MrDegsy69 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Gawler he rubs the lotion into the plastic then it gets the hose again! 😂😂😂
@dark_rei4442
@dark_rei4442 3 жыл бұрын
Just don't live in a ghetto
@compu85
@compu85 8 жыл бұрын
Does the SCSI to SD adapter have a terminator built in? Looking at 14:56 I don't see the normal row of resistor networks. Without termination the drive would work somewhat, but have lots of errors. If the SD adapter doesn't have built in termination you could get a SCSI cable with more ports and put a terminator on the end.
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 6 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a school system, keeping a bunch of old Macs (at that time new)late 80's early 90's Plus'es SE 30's Mac ll's etc going. There was always a concern about terminator strips. when using external SCSI devices, . Then one of the students (who later became a software writer at Apple) , said IT DOESN'T MATTER. He never used them. Since that time without terminators, I can't tell any difference. Sometimes theory and practice don't agree. I think the coupling to an external device acts as termination and doesn't matter much, unless there is a long cable run, in which case there is a small time delay in signals due to cable reactance, still not sure it makes a difference.
@jims6056
@jims6056 4 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I'm loving these videos.
@AnthonyMalesys
@AnthonyMalesys 7 жыл бұрын
Damn sir, I just can't stop watching your restoration projects !
@SpiritedSpy
@SpiritedSpy 6 жыл бұрын
While I imagine you live in a great neighborhood, have you ever had any parts stolen during the retrobright process?
@compzac
@compzac 5 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine no, first off most people would look at the stuff and even if they knew what it was for, what would they do with it?
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 5 жыл бұрын
Who would take random pieces of plastic they have no idea what they are covered in some strange chemical?
@andycraig7734
@andycraig7734 5 жыл бұрын
It’s Texas. They’d probably die of lead poisoning. Pew pew
@MohammedMuaawia
@MohammedMuaawia 8 жыл бұрын
This may sound stupid, but maybe the read lock on the SD card is pushed up
@PandaBTF
@PandaBTF 8 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking too.
@ccapwell
@ccapwell 8 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Hamza Except when he used the utility to copy over a working SE HD image he didn't have a problem.
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 8 жыл бұрын
The adapter can always push it (that happened to me loads of times with SD cards)
@blehmeh9889
@blehmeh9889 8 жыл бұрын
One time I couldnt write to an SD even after trying the lock in both positions . . . Stuck it in a friends macbook pro and it suddenly worked flawlessy. SD locks are fucking magic.
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 8 жыл бұрын
_magic_
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 8 жыл бұрын
15:22 the large number of INITs (extensions) and CDEVs (control panels) might be contributing to the lock-up. If it's System 7, you should be able to skip them by holding down left shift. I don't think MacOS 6 had that feature, though. :/
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 8 жыл бұрын
Oh wait, progress bar. That's definitely System 7. Try the left shift technique
@drayvelharris8348
@drayvelharris8348 6 жыл бұрын
you're more professional and knowledgeable than any repair staff at apple
@gaudimarra4814
@gaudimarra4814 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent 8Bit Guy Episodes, Very thorough Work !
@tohopes
@tohopes 8 жыл бұрын
1:56 Geez, the good old days when Dave Jones would actually tear something down BEFORE turning it on.
@lolazokekk6765
@lolazokekk6765 7 жыл бұрын
I think you mean murray
@sergeantsucc909
@sergeantsucc909 7 жыл бұрын
Dr lol he was talking About eevblog
@user2C47
@user2C47 6 жыл бұрын
"Don't turn it on, Take it apart!"
@TheMr77469
@TheMr77469 8 жыл бұрын
With the amount of Retro Bright you go through for your various projects, I'd imagine the people who run Sally's Beauty Supply are on a first name basis with you?
@themaritimegirl
@themaritimegirl 8 жыл бұрын
You didn't try the original SCSI hard drive in the other SE?
@creature_of_fur
@creature_of_fur 7 жыл бұрын
Its probably already dead, so there is no point
@cadillacjerm760
@cadillacjerm760 6 жыл бұрын
computers have always intrigued me, its why im learning to code! Love your videos, esp these old restoration episodes.
@ntcrwler
@ntcrwler 4 жыл бұрын
I am starting to love all these modern SD drive replacements and floppy replacements that can give new, more reliable life to our beloved hardware!
@Dr18Registered
@Dr18Registered 8 жыл бұрын
This is like watching Druaga1. I like it.
@kunai1362
@kunai1362 8 жыл бұрын
supermario18 ayyy Druaga is awesome!
@Vekkuli001
@Vekkuli001 8 жыл бұрын
Except no weed. Sadly.
@LuisMorales-xv7yy
@LuisMorales-xv7yy 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, but no ssd's :( (and taquitos D:)
@animegamingdude
@animegamingdude 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think the 8-Bit Guy is a smoker, though...
@slizer_
@slizer_ 8 жыл бұрын
animegamingdude Neither is Druaga
@TheRedCap
@TheRedCap 6 жыл бұрын
...you'll see why later You never did explain why you vinyl-taped the bracket
@jamisynmyst9461
@jamisynmyst9461 5 жыл бұрын
As a shield for the board from shorting out
@bradsmith1829
@bradsmith1829 8 жыл бұрын
Best thing to get the black marks off is a magic eraser. They do wonders for marks that are stubborn.
@kanwar89
@kanwar89 5 жыл бұрын
Such a satisfying video. Keep up the good work, 8-Bit guy.
@imagineaworld
@imagineaworld 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa use to fix crt stuff for the neighborhood in the 80s. Man, if he was still here and knew what I was interested in, he would be stoked.
@Jako1987
@Jako1987 8 жыл бұрын
Obsolete geek: You heard what 8-bit guy said! Time to do some retrobright action! 😎
@ItsFoxBit
@ItsFoxBit 8 жыл бұрын
2:49 That battery costed almost as much as the Mac itself 😂
@jenniferhart559
@jenniferhart559 6 жыл бұрын
Max Davis 8 bit guy got the mac at a yard sale for $10, and then got it a new battery for $8.
@MrBioniclefan1
@MrBioniclefan1 6 жыл бұрын
FoxBitExtra lol I know right
@lumin7054
@lumin7054 6 жыл бұрын
@@FoxSock costs
@GAIUSJAKE
@GAIUSJAKE 6 жыл бұрын
I wish i could get a mac like tgat for 10 bucks (se, plus, classic) all of those are good.
@El_Guapo74
@El_Guapo74 8 жыл бұрын
Didn't see you wearing a Commodore shirt during the C128 video :(
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 8 жыл бұрын
I have one.. but it was in the laundry on that day.
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 8 жыл бұрын
"Gutter, what is this? You're wearing the shirt of the band you're going to see? Don't be that guy!"
@I8UrSanwich
@I8UrSanwich 8 жыл бұрын
The 8-Bit Guy Hey the8-bitguy I have a FloppyEmu like you described at the end of your video. If you would like to borrow it to test out your Macintosh SE or for later videos, I am willing to send it to you as long as you pay for shipping and return it back to me when you're finished.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 8 жыл бұрын
wingracer 16 PCU quote, very nice.
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 8 жыл бұрын
I quote that movie constantly. Especially back when I lived with a double music major. Anytime I recognized a piece of music that she didn't, I would have to break out the "you are aware that there was music made before 1989? You're a music major" line on her. And then or course there's: MEAT TOSSER! Hey Butlicks. Remember me? uhh, I didn't exhale. And the all time greatest line ever: "Could you blow me where the pampers is?" "She knows, she knows"
@mickeymouse12678
@mickeymouse12678 7 жыл бұрын
Your restoration vids are some of my favorite on your channel. Though I get that they take a hell of a lot of time and effort. Thanks for sharing!
@stephensnell5707
@stephensnell5707 Жыл бұрын
You mean favourite
@Terd2402
@Terd2402 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking up the Gameboy advance since I've been wanting to purchase one. I've been feeling very nostalgic. Anyway, your videos showed up on my recommend and they're great! So much attention to detail with really good camera and voice over work. Keep up the great work!
@alastairbarkley6572
@alastairbarkley6572 5 жыл бұрын
"Working on CRTs is generally safe.." David, at least two generations of TV repairmen worked on HUGE cathode ray sets with pretty much zero fatalities. And, if you're old enough, you'll even remember the days when TV guys actually came to your house and fixed sets whilst squatting awkwardly in difficult corners of your living room. Safely. It's all a matter of training and respect for danger. Like avoiding big charged capacitors and the tube's EHT supply. Here in the UK, the professional electric group that consistently records NO fatalities is the one that services, installs and repairs super-high voltage transmission lines. Two million volts HVDC isn't very forgiving. Most deaths happen with corner-cutting factory electricians working on 440v three phase systems. Even with the stupidity of the average citizen, the lower voltage domestic 240v kills remarkably few.
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute Bollocks. 230VAC will kill you very, VERY dead if you hook yourself to it the "right" way.
@riso9059
@riso9059 4 жыл бұрын
@@RogerBarraud he never said that 240v wouldnt kill you dumbass
@galacticgaminghd1859
@galacticgaminghd1859 5 жыл бұрын
Macintosh SE: *exists* Iphone SE: allow me to introduce myself
@Jones12ax7
@Jones12ax7 8 жыл бұрын
I jjumped out of the chair when the high voltage conector poped out! rsrsr
@jackilynpyzocha662
@jackilynpyzocha662 4 жыл бұрын
The seller helped me to tell me how to set it up. Easy! It worked right away.
@TheGraphist83
@TheGraphist83 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work I like that you do restorations with so much details
@A_Player
@A_Player 8 жыл бұрын
This was uploaded only 4 or so minutes ago. How are people commenting hours ago?
@Kippykip
@Kippykip 8 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@Artyom751
@Artyom751 8 жыл бұрын
A Player 69 - Patreon donators get to see his videos hours before the rest.
@TheAlexagius
@TheAlexagius 8 жыл бұрын
patreon early access?
@bald_engineer
@bald_engineer 8 жыл бұрын
"Published" isn't the same as "Uploaded."
@Person-fr5md
@Person-fr5md 8 жыл бұрын
A Player 69 Time zones, possibly.
@joseph_b319
@joseph_b319 8 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on your driveway because it seems to be a common character on your videos.
@morganrussman
@morganrussman 6 жыл бұрын
Good grief. :D XD
@DanielBartholomew
@DanielBartholomew 8 жыл бұрын
From the video it looks like you use "Salon Care 40 Volume Creme" for the retro-brightening. Is that correct?
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@DanielBartholomew
@DanielBartholomew 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you. And thanks for another awesome video!
@djjdjdhdbyzsgbsbdbbsh9246
@djjdjdhdbyzsgbsbdbbsh9246 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bartholomew 15 hours ago?
@weeze_the_juice
@weeze_the_juice 8 жыл бұрын
are you using just the toner? that stuff comes in 2 parts, the liquid toner and a powder you mix with it, im only seeing you pour toner out.
@jasonmurawski126
@jasonmurawski126 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bartholomew yes it is
@ficklefingeroffate
@ficklefingeroffate 4 жыл бұрын
I find these restoration videos to be quite pleasing.
@retrokilroy2506
@retrokilroy2506 3 жыл бұрын
These videos NEVER get old
@aldenmoss4204
@aldenmoss4204 7 жыл бұрын
Make sure your SD card isn't in write protect mode.
@Natalie-ez1zc
@Natalie-ez1zc 7 жыл бұрын
Please change your name.
@Natalie-ez1zc
@Natalie-ez1zc 7 жыл бұрын
I was drunk when i chose that name xd i'm thinking about changing it to something else
@prepare2qualify111
@prepare2qualify111 5 жыл бұрын
How to know you're a geek: "I just grabbed a spare price of sheet aluminum I had laying around."
@bpg9992
@bpg9992 5 жыл бұрын
Or an engineer more likely I know dozens of geeks who don’t have scrap metal laying about
@ilpatongi
@ilpatongi 8 жыл бұрын
If this was Druaga1, the video would be full of incompatibility problems with that SD/SCSI adaptor...
@maskedmotorsdiy3575
@maskedmotorsdiy3575 4 жыл бұрын
You sir are a genius. I was using an SE in 1990 with a 19-inch external monitor. It was amusing to see someone's look of amazement and wonder when they first laid eyes on Aldus PageMaker on the big grayscale monitor, doing that desktop publishing thing. "Wow! You can actually see the newspaper page on the screen!"
@amead78
@amead78 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up using these computers. It’s good seeing them again.
@astyrquartz9471
@astyrquartz9471 7 жыл бұрын
:bangs fists on table: PART 2 PART 2 PART 2 PART 2
@Ivyxx..11
@Ivyxx..11 4 жыл бұрын
K
@goeiecool9999
@goeiecool9999 8 жыл бұрын
0:48 Is that the Apple iShirt? Aren't those things like $600?
@wojciechtechtips1602
@wojciechtechtips1602 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@julosx
@julosx 8 жыл бұрын
It looks like the ones Apple Store employees wear if I'm not wrong.
@JayJohnPaul
@JayJohnPaul 7 жыл бұрын
I read iShirt as iShit. I'm like: Whaaaaaaat?
@oldoldolds
@oldoldolds 8 жыл бұрын
I love your restore videos
@markhoulsby359
@markhoulsby359 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Murray Thank you for this video. The SCSI bus scuttlebutt was especially interesting.
@Koettnylle
@Koettnylle 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are so satisfying to watch
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