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France, the seventh largest economy in the world, and Brazil, the ninth largest, are considered key players in a geopolitical scene marked by rivalry between China and the United States. As French President Emmanuel Macron and Brazilian counterpart Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva seek a fresh start following the Bolsonaro years marked by fiery and combative right-wing populism, paired with rife deforestation in the Amazon, FRANCE 24's François Picard is joined by Jamil Chade, award-winning Brazilian author, reporter and columnist based in Geneva.
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