MAC TALK #17 - Ex Chinese Gang Member Kenny Full Interview

‪@chinatowngangstories‬

[@EMGEE718]

I'm 45 years old, born and raised in Queens NYC.. I remember being in 7th grade hearing about the ghost shadows. The aura that surrounded them was almost supernatural. It was understood that those Asian gangs were on a different level. Shout out to China Mac and the official content.. this a dope interview, and you can tell homie right here is a thorough cat..

[@samoanpride9247]

That’s crazy knowing that there name held just as much weight out East. I’m from San Francisco and knew about them as a kid.

[@JayR0065]

I’m the same age also from Queens (Flushing/College Pt) and I also remember the same about the Asian gangs back then.

[@88ntil]

@@samoanpride9247 why would it hold weight in San Fran but not actually where their from? lol

[@samoanpride9247]

@@88ntil I thought they started in sf lol.

[@JuanPassiveMenis]

@@88ntil a lotta Asians out in San Fran bro

[@bottegabo2898]

YESSSSS MAC!!! This is a HUGE content we want that you haven’t tapped into much yet. NY Chinese/Asian Organized Crime stories will be a huge market for you. There’s not much on YT about you guys, the Italian Mafia channels are blowing up. We would Love to see & hear the stories from the people who were there 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥🔥🔥 EXCELLENT Brother

[@TravelatorH8r]

​@@VHARDJO good looks bro I was looking for more content

[@franciscozubillaga8154]

I have always wondered why he doesn't interview Chinese/Asian gangs.

[@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech]

​@@franciscozubillaga8154 Cuz they still active lmao, they are just operating differently, Chinese organized crime is much more sophisticated than any other gang, their level is similar to intelligence agencies. The last bit of his story should give you a clue on this. the NYPD hired a ex Chinese gangster to help combat this type of organized crime. The reason is due to the population difference for culture and superficial delusions don't exist like race, advancements in thinking and behavior will occur because everyone judge's each other's on actions rather than appearances. Western society cares too much about appearances, consequence of a system that cares too much about status because of nepotism. Nepotism occurs in their culture as well, but doesn't last long due to so much competition. Over here, our nepotism takes a long time before it resolves itself, because those with power can delay the process.

[@rtr3381]

Mac should do more old school triad members

[@CHINITOMAFIOSO]

Mac does whatever he wants

[@teovu5557]

these arent triad members lol

[@redfishbluefish1]

He’s an double OG ex ghost shadow.

[@teovu5557]

There are differences between Triads,tongs and street gangs in Chinese society. Ghost shadows are street gangs with ties to triads and tongs but are not one themselves.

[@rtr3381]

@@CHINITOMAFIOSO why u getting pressed about me recommending something 🤣

[@writerartist6306]

Good job in directing Kenny to explain things further since we're not from his or your world. It cracked me up when he would say "you know about this!" and you'd tell him that we don't. Okay, Mac. I was missing Mac Eats but MacTalks gets better with each episode. I rock with your new venture now.

[@storminnorman3990]

Wow!! THIS is what I’m talking about!! Great interview! At 54yrs old, I remember those days very well. Thanks for sharing!

[@mrpink3630]

by far the best and most meaningful guest on the podcast. you will never see a son of a former rival gang leader interviewing a former member from his own gang but a different generation. this is special. not to mention these personal accounts from old school chinese gangsters are unheard of.

[@yankees29]

NYC organized crime is a major part of our culture and history here in NY. The fact that many former gang members/ mobsters are documenting this part out our city’s history is amazing whether it be the Italians,Chinese,Dominicans, Puerto Ricans etc…. As a NYer who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s I’m absolutely hooked on many of these channels.

[@mrpink3630]

@@yankees29 same. its a very major untold part of history. and i just enjoy the new york stories since its so different from the west coast

[@kawaiikat7391]

These two are from the same gang

[@QueensKnight1]

They're both GS

[@JeffreyPham79]

It's so very interesting and compelling to see the two stories... Kenny joined the Ghosts Shadows because he loved his dad so much. China Mac joined the Ghost Shadows because he hated his dad so much.

[@HaiChaConCuocSongOUc]

keep up the fire content Mac, so interesting to hear these war stories from the OGs. I'm glad OGs like Kenny were able to walk away from that life and live a simple and happy lifestyle.

[@dev0tedanna]

Kenny, thank you for sharing your story on Mac's platform. Def, a deep dive into the Chinatown gangs back in the day. There's so much history!

[@D.BelovedOne]

Salue to Mac... the journalism skills is getting better and better

[@plostyle2554]

I've been waiting for something like this from china mac for 75 years.

[@GmailGmail-iy6qv]

😂😂😂

[@emilioemele]

Buddha monks in ya trunk

[@redfishbluefish1]

on god & heaven. china mac can open the lane for the asian community & I’m here for it. to me they have some of the richest history 💪🏾

[@QadriHarris]

lol

[@Korean_Jesus]

Mac has open the 7th sage gates 😂

[@TRDfaithful]

Dude, Kenny's energy got higher and higher throughout the interview. The last question about Mike was hilarious!! Awesome story telling as always, but you should have talked about the Italian mafia sit down! Much love OG Kenny.

[@mrpink3630]

that was the craziest gang story ive heard. and i believe it 100 percent.

[@italia3929]

What an amazing interview Mac, so happy I was able to see it, ....they need to make a movie about this guy's life and let him play the elder in the tong🙏

[@chinftw]

China Mac keep ‘‘em coming. You been on a heater lately.

[@hmoobdaj]

Kenny needs a movie. . . Very little is known of the Chinese street gangs outside of the time and place, but this shit was history of American, of New York.

[@samhendricks2024]

if you listen closely enough you can hear his brooklin accent mixed with chinese its cool as fuck

[@morelife6508]

Noticed that too

[@jimmychu2141]

This by far is one of the best interviews I’ve seen. 👍 Kenny keeps it real!

[@larryher1]

🙏💯 This is Epic! Thank You China Mac and Kenny!

[@WalkingSideways]

That was fiya Mac, Kenny knows how to tell it. Now we need a Mike interview!🔥🙏

[@mickl9567]

His story is similar to mine , but the differences is that my dad was associated with gang on his early life then later he went into construction businesses for us , for family , so that we all can enjoy peaceful life. Born in Malaysia , as a typical Chinese/Thai boy , i were always treated as outcast in schools and neighborhood , peoples always make fun of me for what i am , and they would try to bully me and my lil brother , but my dad always told me to never back down from fight , and never bully others or my lil brother, he taught me what's right and wrong. My household was..... just like any typical gang-related family , always had bunch of tattoed uncles hanging out at my house , fancy cars with dark tinted, and my mom would serve them drinks and foods for the day. My dad went outside of country for constructions work when i turned 8 , and for many years , he would call us and send money home every now and then to make sure everything is ok. There's one time i had a problem at school when i was 15 , the boy extorted me in school and they said they would beat the shit outta me if i don't pay... but i ignored them , and later they followed me home , they shouted at the gate, my mom was at the kitchen at the time , my brother greeted them and called me , said some peoples outside calling for me , I came out and talked to them , immediately got dragged into car and left... last thing i told my brother was , call dad and uncles. So later they took me to a bar , got beaten up pretty bad , said i being disrespectful to them and their gang for the reason... turned out like i was a initiative breakthru for the new kids to join a gang. They told me to make a call to bring them the money , but later my step-uncles came , they sit down for a discussions , and they took me home. the next day, my dad arrives early in the morning , he walks into my room and check on me , i was already awake but I still lying on bed. My dad brought me to lunch at restaurant , and 2 of my step-uncles joined us later... they make fun of me for how I lost the fight cause i never lost any fight during my childhood , and later dad told me they would ambush the kid and their members who bullied me after we done with lunch , and i asked how , they kept silent and smile, said you'll know soon. Then , we left the restaurant and went to a house , theres full of different cars , and we took 2 suv and drove to the bar that i was took into on the other night , it was 3pm.... 4 of us, 2 SUV, 2 persons in each , they parked their car facing the bar , while my dad parked 10 metres away from the scene, watching... and last thing my dad told me before the actions is... boy , never let anyone walks over your head and disrespect you.... and the next thing I saw, my step-uncle slam his car into the bar repeatedly until the car break down , and they walks out from their car , get into our car and we left.

[@rtr3381]

Shout out mac from the UK 🇬🇧

[@richgrubb808]

Great story!!!! Its interesting getting a small look into asians gangs bc its very rare, keep up the great work mac

[@Biscuitolivia3561]

Not as super rare as you think, a lot of Asian gangsters are lowkey

[@redfishbluefish1]

@@Biscuitolivia3561 Thats why its rare, theyre history isnt out here like how the crips, damu’s & ese’s is

[@mathiasgajardo9729]

​@No name super low key. It's almost impossible too find something about the triads online

[@teovu5557]

no its not...ttype in triads and its a million articles on its groups,rituals and crime.

[@Damari90]

Dope interview. Love the tripleOG classic stories

[@pokyme]

Great interview . this sounds like its straight out from a movie

[@pcimprezzive]

Kenny is a survivor! The fujiao crew and microwave incident in the slammer was hilarious.

[@teovu5557]

Fuzhou(fuchou)

[@ewong8580]

Asian kids need more of the OGs to come out and do these interviews. Thanks Mac for the platform

[@eclectic.explorations]

Damn, he met Kenny Wong AND Johnnie Chang within a month of me discovering them both and me contemplating whether they’d meet China Mac or not lol

[@creekcigs7913]

great vid, really interesting to see a first hand experience with gang life in chinatown thanks mac and kenny

[@checkmate8487]

Asian gang especially East Asia gang have the coolest name; ghost shadows, flying dragons, wah ching, bamboo union, 14k..etc

[@Shinking_Lord]

this is kinda romantics of the culture

[@Chris-gq7zu]

Sound pretty gay to me

[@FreshmenBolts]

Specifically not EAST Asian, these are Chinese gangs, East Asian gangs are the Cambodians, Laos, Vietnam etc

[@checkmate8487]

@@FreshmenBoltsu sure? I’m thinking you’re confusing yourself mate. Cambodia, Laos , Vietnam are in Southeast Asia not east. East Asia are china, Taiwan , Japan, Korea etc. You could thanks me for the free education today buddy

[@Shinking_Lord]

@@checkmate8487 absolutely correct

[@cafelate9515]

Kenny as much as I hate the gangs of Chinatown I appreciate your story. It is touching at the end that you are a changed man and don’t want to relive the past. I highly appreciate that.

[@jojotwice8918]

exactly, all these young ones thinking how great these Chinese gangs were🙄 these guys didn't protect Chinatown, they were very much the ones terrorizing it

[@Shotbyshaddy]

Hands my favorite Mac talk so far

[@edwardfayer]

Amazing interview, we need more MAC!

[@UnoriginalEscobar]

I have nothing but respect for all these OG’s from whichever set they rep. But man, BTK, Born To Kill.. what a dope ass name for a clique! They got it from the movie Full Metal Jacket a movie about the war in Vietnam. Man, salute to all these gangs from those days. Aiyo Mac, do an interview with Cambodian Peter!

[@yankees29]

“The Canal Boys”

[@cantaloupemelonz1533]

@@yankees29 How about Ernie's Boys.

[@lstan2083]

Keep doing this Mac, much love！❤️

[@KOUFFIBOIZ01]

China Mac behind the cam like Dj VLAD

[@johnydang23]

It's crazy the most dangerous people always fear one person...mom dukes 🤣🤣

[@user-oz3bu3qz5t]

Mac said fuck the lil clips, just drop the whole thing 😂

[@C1ark33]

They all do that till they reason they can double there Money on clips 😂

[@T4SelNiNO]

This was his best interview

[@kawaiikat7391]

This is by far your best interview, beautiful thing 7-Up game from your big homie

[@NatNak-vt1vs]

Hi , Mac , love your work . We need og from Canada (Toronto , Vancouver , Montreal) We know You can do it.

[@Shaun.is.typing]

Agreed

[@420villain]

He can't cross the border though

[@Enchanteralle]

Thank you for doing this interview to give us a glimpse of what life is like for ex-gang members. Kenny is right in that he realized that he couldn't do what he was doing forever especially when he gets out of jail. I'm glad he turned his life around. Priorities change over time and as much as there was bonding and a sense of belonging in gangs, it's not sustainable if you constantly get arrested and be put in jail. I appreciate hearing these stories and Kenny is a great story teller.

[@YUNGRC]

Amazing interview 🔥👍💯 Much Respect Great Stories

[@anthonynguyen8031]

Man I've been waiting for this since part 1. Appreciate it brother

[@kev9cool]

My left ear enjoyed this but my right ear didn’t enjoy this video as much.

[@graina88]

I don’t get it. Why?

[@YakuzaSaiyan-Goku]

MAC REALLY NEEDS TO DO MORE OLD SCHOOL TRIAD MEMBER OR GANG MEMBER STORIES. REAL TALK.

[@hungtrinh8898]

Please do a interview of BTK ex members if possible!! It would be a great interview as well…

[@QueensKnight1]

Fk BTK...ain't no way in hell Mac interviewing 1 of them pos

[@easychang4261]

In the end, we’re all Chinese from all ends of the earth fighting each other

[@erikcarlssonberntsson3717]

The sound is bad in headphones sounds like Eco. And I see you got a good mic. So I think u need to isolete the room.

[@calvinzhobbies]

🔥🔥🔥 great interview, keep the chinese gang content coming

[@kenmasonj4812]

MAC is keeping it (REAL); with showing us about these ASIAN gangsters !!

[@jimzthegreat]

This is the most raw interview I've seen about Chinese gangs

[@hlc1929]

The only good interesting interviews Mac’s done. Need more interviews with big homies instead of trolls

[@mikeltruss9695]

Incredible story, I could have listened for two more hrs 🙏🏾

[@Booz23]

Love hearing Kenny talk

[@jbbushido]

This is great please have on more

[@volcano23]

The was great ! Salute ! Do more of these interviews/ the Asian gang stories are never told like this

[@konghere]

Just a feedback, the audio for this one is a bit low. Great content nonetheless!

[@douglisquade5448]

Can't hear this for shit and he's only in one headphone

[@JK-gh9ng]

Mac I know you know you’re the plug for the ny Chinatown gangster movie. Make it happen

[@YuKeShow]

check out "Iron Fist" series.

[@anguyen5128]

Man much respect to Kenny. Definately a stand-up guy and a great storyteller

[@chelography4410]

Keep these coming Mac

[@jayjaymyers5276]

This shit interesting af

[@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji]

Fantastic interview!

[@nardotechm5317]

I really enjoyed this 🫶🏽💪🏽

[@thaistomp]

Kenny is a legend. Much respect.

[@tibofinds3726]

It's crazy that the core chinatown is really not much more than 5 x 5 blocks. My parents got us out of chinatown to Brooklyn in '86, but I would go back on Sundays to visit my grandmother. As a kid, it just seemed like the most busy place anywhere but all everyone was doing was either buying food or eating at restaurants. I can't imagine losing your father suddenly at 10 yrs old without knowing the reason why.

[@giraffepunx4484]

Yooo. More of this. Best thing I’ve seen Mac do

[@RappersDigest]

He need a movie deal 🍿

[@thechosenwon6762]

China mac ffs sort it out editing 0 sound -10 even the picture quality looks terrible Ps I'm a china mac fan but you dropped the ball with this one

[@JayBeachTV]

Kenny is a real gangster. Doesn't take long too seperate the real ones from the rest.

[@Deasnuts1]

That was real shit at the end.. I dont wanna hurt nobody no more and I don't want nobody to hurt me.

[@lstan2083]

Kenny is such a legend💪

[@QueensKnight1]

Damn good interview 🪖718SALUTE🪖

[@jahjahknow1]

you need a backdrop my guy!

[@vicxdarko5855]

Was waiting for Mac behind the camera to be like "its your first time here so i wanna start at the very begining"

[@morelife6508]

Yeah. He is following the Vlad template, but in his own way.

[@benaiahwright937]

Man, China Mac is the man. I had no idea he was doing interviews.

[@mobmeansmobmobmeansmob2125]

Really enjoyed this

[@freehan510]

Respect Bros , God bless you guys.

[@Trill.Clipz.Channel]

So much history info in this, I live in OC cali near Chinatown. This life is real but kept so quite.

[@kiablis4371]

I was always fascinated with gangs. I never joined any or associated with any. There was this girl back in middle school. She dated this gangster and apparently he got stabbed. She ended up having a kid with him and divorced later on. That's the closest I've ever heard about gangs. It's just this underworld that privilege people like me never saw. I hope the gang members found peace in life and no longer associate with gang life. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@MR-db4gd]

Your best work yet

[@derskayranzers]

The audio it's not that good

[@themindofjonathan3686]

Good interview

[@charlesdiaz9800]

I have high respect for that man

[@malcolmx229]

add time stamps mac 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@tumuch8936]

OG Kenny certified ✅ # 🧧🐲💯

[@americanzombie1802]

Very interesting interview

[@Khaos969]

When I was 14 years old one of my friends stole a asian girls walkman in the classroom, I was waiting outside the school for that friend as I had changed schools and was coming to see him , all of a sudden a Mercedes pulled up and two triads in long coats walked over to me and said "where's your cousin" I guess the daughter assumed he was my relative because we looked alike, before poking me REAL hard right in the throat , they then walked into the school took my friend in a room and started slapping him in the face until the headmaster came in and saved him , I remember the girl sitting in the back seat of the Mercedes , im not gonna lie I shit myself they looked mean as fuck and I was just a kid with nothing to do with it.

[@franciscozubillaga8154]

The volume is a little low.

[@RichardsWorld]

Great story. I didn't know the Chinese from different regions had a beef between each other. When I was young I worked at an arcade and made friends with groups of all races. I was half Asian. One time I was walking around and a van pulled up and it was a Filipino gang that knew me, they said hop in and they have me a ride. Along the way they would stop and jump out the van and beat people up. I just sat in the van and watched. Eventually they dropped me off. I later learned they beat up my brother's white friend and pushing brother down. I told my brother I know those guys 😃

[@bjjblue]

No elderly abuse on Asians back then cuz of these gangs 😢

[@JVung]

Kenny too much “um” 😂😂😂 but good interview G. Keep doing you!

[@morelife6508]

It might be a thing where he's thinking at certain parts in Chinese. And has to remember to translate that thought into English.

[@rutgershouses]

Rip Bj years ago I saw him as I was driving down Monroe street knickerbocker village looking for a parking space and saw bj looked like he had a serious physical medical issue with his body

[@mikecodellaupagainstthewall]

Nice job guys!

[@mudbuddha123]

respect man!

[@theadventurer1602]

Mac's English accent is 100% American. Nice.

[@streetteams]

More of this too 🎉

[@renownusa]

Great interview. May not make lotta sense to most - but would LOVE to have you interview an OG in CANTO! (can subtitle it for non-canto) #dailo

[@kiablis4371]

Are there any female gangsters? I would love to hear from their side

[@viettruong109]

Good pod but bruhhh, ad after the first minute?

[@TRDfaithful]

"Michael Moy!" "heeeyyyy Kenny! 🙋‍♂" that had me rollin lol! good shiet Kenny!

[@michael42666]

Salute Kenny from the Bay

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

I love when a Chinese talks English like him. When he says God damn and freaking. I love it.

[@yankees29]

I believe he said he went to grade school with Italians. It’s funny that even Chinese people from NYC have that NY accent.😂

[@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781]

@@yankees29 hahaha