Madden 20 vs APF 2k8 - Attention To Detail

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[@RyanMoody21]

The rest of this game will be covered tonite, perhaps the worst gameplay I've ever seen.

[@RyanMoody21]

Did this year's ago,did nothing.

[@kcpkp3]

RyanMoody21 Damn..

[@vhsvintagestuff6791]

We won't get a good football game until they lose the license... 2 days in and I'm over it already... just plain BAD... Same game just polished with new fonts

[@ricksaint00]

KeepingItReal you not lying. I’m over it shit trash.

[@williamriddick7508]

Is the xbox one backwards compatible? I'm going to try and find this game.

[@kcpkp3]

Someone needs to create a petition to have the NFL reconsider EA’s NFL license. We can possibly get over a million signatures, before Madden NFL 21. Hell, the “Storm Area 51” guy got 2 million, WHY NOT US?!

[@nnamdixrevolutionary8883]

🤣 my guy you are a true champion 🏆but you are right

[@unclejitz]

hhhhhhaaaaa MMGA....MAKE MADDEN GREAT AGAIN..come on america...

[@CaptainCookie18]

kcpkp3 you right so..... who makin it???

[@maddenfootballtalk6544]

Because there is millions of players of Madden who are addicts nothing will convince them it's a bad game even if they are screaming at it daily due to poor gameplay that's why .. like telling a drug user crack is bad .. they don't care 🤷

[@ChreamOhWheat]

How do u start a petition shit I'll do it

[@gamesgains1042]

Man Ryan you are killing these clowns..... Keep up the good fight brother.

[@bryanmatthews8466]

EA's attention to detail attribute is set at 0, lol. Smh

[@RyanMoody21]

Detail in the wrong places. Worries about player thigh gaps rather than other areas.

[@bryanmatthews8466]

RyanMoody21 it's funny because back in the day they could get away with these details not being "in the game"... Although some were actually "in the game".... And now that the hardware can support many more... They are to concerned with the casual players now to care about those details ... Meanwhile the name is the only thing that keeps Madden alive as it's competitors have taken leaps and bounds over them... Sad really ...

[@FGPlus]

With an x factor: Clueless

[@teresasmith5643]

Nfl 2k21 I'll pay 100$ for it in 2 seconds

[@theoisaac9948]

True!

[@interceptingfist5682]

I'd pay the price of my ps4 😂

[@brandonkeisler86]

Intercepting Fist damn right, me too!

[@ty50bmg11]

2k would be just as bad if not worse the NBA games they make are terrible

[@Badasi12b]

$100?! There's a REASON that their last football game was $19.99! 💀😂. Clue... It wasn't because of quality or how good it was...

[@therealoneeighth]

"Madden, It's Just There" That should be the new slogan.

[@mrmotown1004]

I don’t understand how folks say ur a hater for pointing out all the nonsense in Madden games. Ur just trying to keep us informed But unfortunately the folks who should be watching. Aren’t. Because the game isn’t really getting any better

[@nickiii2458]

I know right? It's not like Ryan is making any of his up.

[@SpideysNightmare02]

@Gavin Hill "little" 🤣

[@GymRat202]

Gavin Hill clown 🤡 fanboy you’re part of the problem

[@SOR_Murderer]

Lol this little dude is always mad on Madden.. he is always making the same trashy video to make it compare to the other game lol

[@SWAGGER573]

Horst Wessel he’s pointing out all the stuff that makes madden bad.... that’s the point of the videos. And he’s showcasing games that are nearly a decade older that do things better. Even older madden games. It’s clear EA does not give a shit about the half assed products they send out

[@rh3937]

I was on the fence about buying madden... but this man has single handedly convinced me not to. The only way we’re ever going to change things is through how we spend our cash fellas. If we continue to support EA’s titles we’re just as guilty as they are.

[@GradyGames]

"I'm going to draw just a little heart around him" haha

[@NYG5]

In 2k8 when a player gets hurt and is laying on the ground, nearby players will come to him and kneel or interact with him. Cool dynamic feature, wish they had the old 2k5 injury cutscene to go with it too

[@Chubzdoomer]

Hey Ryan, do you edit your videos with Sony Vegas? I noticed that your still images are blurry compared to the actual video footage. If you're using Vegas, you can save higher-quality snapshots by changing the preview quality (just above the video player) to "Best (Full)". If you aren't using Vegas, then disregard that advice!

[@narocislewis4199]

Couldve atlease had him getting his wrist iced or taped. I cringe when people talk about how good this game is

[@RyanMoody21]

Cant ice the wrist if you gotta slam the helmet.

[@narocislewis4199]

RyanMoody21 😂😂😂

[@benjaminpeters6729]

@@RyanMoody21 he slammed it with the right hand...the left elbow was injured

[@teresasmith5643]

Madden 10 had a half time show 11 had gus Johnson an chris colinsworth Ncaa football 13 had the exact espn presentation come on ea your going backwards

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

On god, until like Madden 10, the series was still decent. But how they just reskin the game and sell it the next year.

[@marcusjohnson7321]

Teresa Smith madden 11 was fire bruh. Madden 25 and 18 plays better than 20.

[@chrisjusczyk2420]

Yo keep these videos coming!! Love what you’re doing right now. Keep exposing how EA does nothing to change their game and how it literally looks nothing like an authentic nfl game.

[@RyanMoody21]

Will do Chris, appreciate the support.

[@lionheart4529]

"E.A. still fuxxin' talkin'? E.A. still fuxxin' breathin'?" - 2PAC

[@daquanmcdonald7104]

Madden isn't a authentic football game. They lack detail in so many aspects of the game

[@JK2333459]

SayDat Quan EA makes a better hockey game sad to say it’s been that way for years

[@JK2333459]

SayDat Quan F1 2018 has what Madden should have they presentation is awesome and the detail if you have played it if you on PS4 download the demo it’s great

[@flowchemicalptyltd]

All I needed to see was gameplay post-release and I made my choice. No Thank You.

[@rgk99]

It’s not nitpicking, it’s a relevant point. So many details that occur in a regular football game are missing in Madden.

[@RyanMoody21]

It all adds up. Combine this with poor gameplay and it's just too much.

[@Op3nUrEyez]

Look at that blocking and tackling on that toss sweep 🤢 #93 dives and slides down Peterson’s back 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@pierres3013]

Player holding his head? Injury status “torn ACL

[@Kaos17428]

Dang I’d wish I still had all pro football 2k8

[@Kaos17428]

Tune Chi I used to have it but me and my brother got rid of it about 7 or 8 years ago idk

[@1906tpir]

I don’t have a working PS3 or Xbox 360 so sadly I can’t play 2k8 All Pro Football.

[@DREQON2005]

Not that hard to find bro local gamestop in your city or eBay or Amazon got mine last year for like 12 bucks

[@DREQON2005]

1906tpir Xbox 360 is like 30 bucks

[@GeorgeNadaYT]

That off the ball injury looks hilarious🤣 Never seen something like that in Madden.

[@JoshuaHarrisTAB]

I’m loving these videos boss

[@RyanMoody21]

Thanks Josh, appreciate you watching.

[@megamuffin15]

Would have made sense to have the helmet throwing animation if he was ruled out for the game. What player is doing that when they're out for a drive at most? Would be interesting if a player could try to tell you he's good then you as a coach have to determine whether or not to trust him.

[@Kizz_97s]

Good thing I’m buying Maximum Football!

[@realjakegrasso]

Yo Woe me to

[@Geep615]

Me too I think it could be fun

[@MarvelAnimations]

Hey Ryan, quick question...how do I get APF 18? I know it's a modification on the 8K game but I dont know where to get it...

[@mooboo5491]

You the man Ryan , keep doing your thing bro Tell it how it is !

[@cbolin2118]

There's also the off ball injuries where you go back and look at the replay and the player that was supposedly "injured" was involved in minimal contact. I had an offensive player suffer a broken back. Went back and looked at the replay. Nothing happened. He blocked for a second or 2. Stopped. Play ends. He walks back to the huddle. Apparently with a broken back tho smh

[@BI00dReign]

I am going to buy a xbox 360 and play some apf2k8 again. Do people still play and is it possible to do leagues?

[@TreyIM22]

Moody has the shortest weeks known to man. Lolol...Anyway, on point as almost usual. Loved seeing that APF off ball injury. I had issues with 2K's controls (charge up moves), controls linked actual player movements (not the animations per se), floaty passing and some other things, across the sports gaming board back in the day but I made the purchases. I didn't play my APF much and ended up trading it in then I'd whip out the demo here and there over the yrs just to see if I felt differently but still feel the same yet lots of the animations are so great to see to this day. EA needs to cut the bullshit, give up the resources, and let the devs pretty much have autonomy to create what they and the gamers want.

[@muddiestduck7901]

Do you think you will ever post one of those playthroughs with commentary? You had previously posted a couple before footage was allowed. Would be a good watch. Anyway keep up the good work

[@RyanMoody21]

No, video would take days to upload.

[@muddiestduck7901]

@@RyanMoody21 fair enough. Assumed it would be a hell of a task.

[@cryeredd7563]

what's the best is having an offball injury that isn't even animated. love those. and having 7 players out for at least 6 weeks, while all the cpu teams have 2 or less.

[@jasonr.6428]

Im curious if EA follows your channel (highly doubt they do because they obviously dont care). But I would love for you to somehow pull off an interview with them to bring up all these crap issues year after year and hear the BS excuses._.. Great channel man, love you calling them out

[@RyanMoody21]

Some Devs do.

[@jasonr.6428]

Do they ever reply to you or give you any excuse

[@isaiahjones4557]

I have APF 2k8 and you can even see your QB, when your defense is on the field, calling up to the offensive coordinator in the booth on the sideline phone. We can’t even get the actual players STILL in Madden on the sideline

[@RomeGoLARGE]

Madden needs to get better for how long now?

[@brandonkeisler86]

I think Madden 15 had some decent injury animations. It got weird when you'd always see them on the exercise bike later. Of course they took it out after one game.

[@bayarea_hemi]

guess i'll be playing my mlb 19 the show all year round...

[@jayguapo2036]

Mood

[@thisislaflaretv5250]

How many Maddens do you need to get it right

[@mikegreen3613]

2k had it were they broke a leg it showed how it was done. 2k on dreamcast rocked

[@mikebeas8]

Love the vids but the quality needs to be better lol

[@RyanMoody21]

APF2k8 is 720, sorry fam.

[@bonkgiartist]

2k8 in a lot of aspects was more impressive than Madden 20. But James Hakim’s coverage technique was weird and unrealistic. Why did he turn completely away from the WR without looking at him and run towards the end zone?

[@SWAGGER573]

Because it is a game from 2007

[@Dropkickurteacher]

I wish they would bring back the cart like in madden 11

[@patriots-yb4ej]

Tecmo super bowl is more realistic then madden...and has been for as long i remember

[@AlexTheGreatMC]

How much of a cut does the NFL make from mut?

[@justmatt6225]

How could I convince you to send me a ps4 . Mine broke and I have over 100 online wins on MUT and only played a few days. I was figuring out the algorithm an I can show you

[@lucw1556]

Yeeeeeeeesss THANK YOU

[@OhHiMark001]

Remember when the ps3 maddens would just have them laying on their back lifeless? Lol

[@eja35oz]

is their no way to play all pro 2k on ps4 or xbox one?

[@RhynoT99]

Madden developers remind me of the guy at work who wants to play in the fantasy football league but doesnt even like sports. The concept of drafting players is known, but who to draft, when and why is completely unknown. These guys can program a game. They just dont know what they're programming for or why. I don't think any of them really watch sports. ... It doesnt help that MUT has blown up into such a big deal with madden buyers. That is EA Sports main focus. They dont care about the casual football fan who wants realistic stats and lifelike gameplay. They care about arcade style excitment and their next big yield from a large purchase of cards so the player can build a fantasy team and rule the ranking boards. ...I have a fucking rocket noise when I throw the football for crying out loud. What is that!?! Basketballs swoosh when they go through the net, footballs dont roar when thrown through the thin air. ...but, I bought the damn game. They got my money, even if I had tons of doubt. This is why they continuenti produce shit because they know football fans will buy it since their is no other options.

[@stockmuscle1585]

They left him on the field with n severe pain all by himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RyanMoody21]

Tried to do him a solid making the heart.

[@jarrettallen6758]

Madden use to have off ball injuries, madden 2002 ps1, I was the Vikings and I was scrambling with club pepper and a WR named Hachette was blocking his man for me on the sideline. I was coming behind him and got tackled from behind resulting in me falling on his leg as we both feel. He got a knee injury

[@saints2superbowl757]

Madden 04 was my favorite. I liked creating my own formations and plays

[@EXPENDABLE50]

i always thaught it was comical how no one took a knee or any medical staff went on the field to scoop up a injured player. the guy just teleports one moment to the next

[@hibbahibba]

Well done Ryan.

[@SPEliteTV]

Preach Brother. EA been getting off easy for years.

[@MarvelousSoundz]

Things just won’t change, zero competition and MUT profits will continue this trend.

[@nflbetteroldstyle]

Ea only wants money. That’s a fact. And it’s preventing them to make actualy good games

[@theoisaac9948]

Want gameplay to flow like a river thats what your trying to say question is how can they do that fluid gameplay.

[@phillyscorpio3804]

I'm sooooo glad I didn't buy Madden 20!

[@BH02377]

@Gavin Hill because it's shit

[@parksma]

I think they're just putting things in the game to have them in there. I am guessing that the NFL doesn't want them to show a guy tear his ACL or get a concussion. I honestly don't care if they have different animations at the moment. Wouldn't you rather have them fix something more important

[@RyanMoody21]

I'd rather have things done right than appease fans.

[@parksma]

@@RyanMoody21 I agree with that. Regardless if it's a AAA game or not, it still takes resources. I guess their plan is to put something in place and work on it as they get time

[@robertmaynard9327]

Well you see the NFL had madden take out ambulances, medical crews, etc.

[@bobertislam69]

Guys I am really needing a couple of achievements for this game to unlock the 5 ability gold stars options. Winning a league or tournament would be the number one that I need help with. Is there any possible way to get this done still? Is anyone willing to help me?

[@bobheyotue9850]

It’s so funny how every freaking year madden games are still compared to this old game and they still can’t get the details right.

[@biggame315]

Bruh do you know how many stars of mine lose potential in franchise season mode because of an injury where I wasn’t even controlling them

[@carlosh2390]

Madden is the iPhone of football games

[@jamil6617]

Off ball injuries was in ps2 madden games. They took it out then put it back it. We can’t give them credit for that.

[@JanstonCordell]

Madden is the Netflix adaption of Gridiron Football.

[@jameshoops10]

lol it is amazing how apf 2k8 was ahead of its time and we took it for granted, imagine if they were able to add rpos, a better no huddle system and more college style concepts to there game

[@KingSnips71]

If they would change that cutscene to when a Qb or someone fumbled or blew a coverage for a TD I think it would make more sense and then have a player come over an pat him on the shoulder

[@Kizz_97s]

1:42 how is he slamming his helmet in pain Madden really don’t care 😂😂

[@jcrios7594]

Sadly they aren't struggling with rendering anything, Madden just doesn't care. They're the only game in town so their attitude is, "You're gonna take it and like it." Great job on the info though 👍

[@RyanMoody21]

Just think about saying "A player is injured, we need two cut scenes to show this. But in between let's just have him lay on the field alone. " then others agreeing in the meeting.

[@GeorgeDubya43]

Don’t you just love how they still don’t bother to put names on the players that are on the sidelines how lazy I’m not spending another penny on an EA game until they start taking it seriously

[@nikolasherman3548]

Good videos man

[@RyanMoody21]

Thanks Nicholas!

[@nikolasherman3548]

@@RyanMoody21 i redid the madden 20 rosters for madden 12.personally madden 12 is the only madden with good animations

[@ryanball2754]

I have just started watching your vids in the last two weeks and I am starting to realize that you are not just a hater. You have logical complaints and you are not complaining just to get attention. You really like football and you would like to play a good Football game! As with me. Yeah, I don't get it. FIFA is 1000 times better at soccer than Madden is at Football. I just don't get it. How people keep buying Madden every year.

[@RyanMoody21]

Thanks Ryan!

[@dwaynehaskinsjr.733]

Damn why AP?

[@professornotoAmbition]

EA NHL is similiar. You can absolutely destroy a guy over and over and it will have 0 effect on gameplay. In 2k hockey if you laid out the player more then 2 times all there stats would start to drop and they would noticably play different.

[@le4-677]

AP laying there injured and no one giving a fuck LOL

[@RyanMoody21]

Thus I made a heart......

[@chuckimperato5059]

This is what happens when you have people making complex software who have no clue what they're doing. Absolutely terrible.

[@hmmm3232]

Well if you make the same game for 7 years you should tune the “details” because the mechanics don’t change

[@tye9713]

You should do a clip on pump faking I usto use it alot on 2k to make the linemen jump to buy more time something madden has never consider and the shoulder roll u can do with the right stick with QB to shake free a defender

[@tye9713]

2k is the only game were u can reinact donovan mcnabs longest scramble with pump fakes n the evade move it was ahead of its time n L.T. n Ricky williams was my all time backs

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Madden used to have this way long ago lol. EA is literally going backwards except at this point they've been doing it for 9 years.

[@evanwilliams6406]

Uh, I'm pretty sure that the trainers would advise Peterson not grip anything if he had an arm injury. It would be in a sling or something or icing it or at least a trainer is over there tending to him. Like I don't see the ambulance or the Gator Cart that takes the players off. I'm surprised Peterson didn't get a ride back in the Gator Cart.

[@RyanMoody21]

Exactly. And yet EA cant control cut scenes to limit what's played.

[@lockdownko2846]

I enjoy this channel but its frustrating seeing how bad this game is knowing Ea dont give af

[@theterra-path7798]

Why dont we just "storm" EA

[@ghettoguru9164]

I support you bro we got to get EA out of here when it comes to these sports games I don't even like the basketball games they put out live is trash.I only play sports games on my 360 because I can't take the new gym games anymore

[@cryeredd7563]

but hey, just wait for the first patch, all issues will be fixed.

[@thatwilightzone4760]

Lmao idk if this is true but secret locations of people getting RAMMED up the ass for the new Madden! 😂 Brand new !! Id be so down!

[@brinafees]

Hope one day all pro football 2k8 can be remastered to next gen consoles 👍🏽👍🏽 I’m ready for that

[@dn5578]

Only because they didn't have the NFL license. It was miles ahead of current madden's gameplay.

[@brinafees]

andrew moore -fact that it didn’t have NFL teams- I still have it and play a few times a week I like the kicking it makes it more realistic- you can modify your own team combinations- I’ve did the pink lady’s from married with children episode lol and Poke high with Al Bundy

[@MinneappleTwinkies]

For Presentation, Madden needs to integrate FOX, CBS, NBC SNF, and ESPN MNF.

[@RyanMoody21]

Absolutely agree!

[@deanta14]

I hate when madden say an offensive line is hurt but never show they got hurt on the play lol

[@purplecity817g.s.w7]

Boy I love yo channel u be on they ass everything u saying me and my niggas been saying for yrs Madden is horrible every since they came to next gen they never step up

[@lucw1556]

The trainer should be attending to him or trainers should be attending him on the field and escort him off the field we need to talk more about this can you talk more about this attention to detail please

[@RyanMoody21]

Exactly. When you add this in with terrible gameplay it makes the game quickly lose all immersion.

[@graveominousx1805]

I can't remember if it was Madden 17, 18 or 19. But they said that it will be more off the ball injuries when u played the game. And we see that hasn't happened yet. EA is good at sell lies and empty promises.

[@Ubermentsh]

Please just bring back all pro football 2K. No NFL licensing needed at this point. Just give us a full and complete game. With similar presentation and options of 2K5. At the current gen level.

[@TheDigitalcrack]

Anyone can nitpick anything. Making games aren’t easy. And if the other game was what you had for years you would do the same thing to it as you are doing to Madden. If 2K was still out with licensing people would find stuff wrong about it too. 80 percent of people out there bypass cut scenes anyway dude.

[@empoweredcrb23]

Man this is my mainnnnnnnnnnnn problem they don’t have injuries on ranked matches and they don’t have the right animations

[@wadewade4439]

Same animations I see from previous years. No random helmets popping of from well placed hit sticks. Detail is how it always is. Trust me, I have played Madden football games since 1998. When the 2k series dropped I chose that over Madden. I haven’t purchased a Madden game for five years. I refuse, I’m not spending $60.00 to play for a month and drip it because it’s soooooo repetitive and gets boring quick. They had the injury carts come out in NFL Quarterback Club 1998, I might be messing the name up but you know what I’m referencing. I’m a KC fan and have been since I was a little boy unfortunately, haha. So I want to especially purchase the game to play with a very decent KC team this year minus the defense. You get the picture, if we continue to not be mentally strong and purchase this game. Nothing will change. Im just not sure if people care enough to not purchase. They are just falling into this annual trap.

[@DoubleTen95]

I know at this point getting a mass amount of people to boycott madden and EA is a long shot but I mean if people are willing to not buy Star Wars games (EA’s Battlefront games namely) then surely if people just saw more videos like this they’d feel the same about Madden.

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

The problem is MUT but you guys still keep playing it

[@johnmimms9167]

bringing out ALL THE FAULTS madden has has not diminished people from buying the game.