Johnny Got His Gun (1971)- Blackjack with Christ/Donald Sutherland

Blackjack scene with Christ figure.

[@William-13]

"You'll see him when he is 50 & you will still be 23" - dark as hell

[@SuperColonel91]

That meant his son died in 1967 or 68

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

As dark as it was I can't help but find it soothing. It didn't matter to Jesus that the child would outlive the father, as that is how expects life to be. But it did matter to him that no matter how old either of them would be in the event of their deaths that they'd see each other again.

[@charlesmichaelschmitt6412]

Judgment day when everyone is resurrected. My question is "Jesus remarks how hard it is to hit 12." I guess is this is a reference to the 12 apostles, Judis betrayed him; he knew this before the last supper.

[@randymarsengill6035]

Best portrayal of Jesus I’ve ever seen. 😎

[@OVERDOSED87]

@@SuperColonel91 father died at 23 and the son at 50

[@tomservo5347]

Why am I so drawn to this entire depot/train scene? The banter among the soldiers is relatively light hearted yet there's an overwhelming heaviness. They matter-of-factly state how they'll each die in a detached, almost boastful way because they are in fact detached souls. There's an eerie silence in the background until the train arrives, taking each of them to their pre-destined, early, wasteful deaths. The soldier that dies of the flu is just as dead as the soldier dying from a trench cave in.

[@roccoisagamer1431]

I love how Jesus can’t get a 12 because one of the 12 apostles betrayed him

[@ΓιώργοςΠαρασκευάκης-ν7ε]

donald sutherland is amazing ..... a calm voice with real correct answers . one of my best actors (and his sons too Kiefer, Rossif ). i saw rossif in trench 11 same as his father

[@desmond1776]

This is an amazing scene. Jesus playing cards with the souls of men. Entertaining them, listening to them, encouraging them. Even being there with them to the end; even defending the one who would wouldn't die but goes on to suffer more. The ending with him mourning the loss of life as he leads them, wearing a death shroud. He wears the shroud only partially as the chosen one to usher the living to the dead.

[@OVERDOSED87]

USHER is a black american singer YEAH YEAH YEAH

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

There's something so terrifyingly haunting about that steam train at the end (which is what I came for). I've always thought steam trains were both magnificent and terrifying. They have transported millions upon millions of people to a new life as well as to a horrifying death. When the steam whistle blows as it's coming towards you in the dead of the night, it has a unique kind of terror, like death is coming to take your soul.

[@Voucher765]

Yup and one of the most popular locomotives during WW1 was the USRA light mikado which includes Nickel Plate 587 and GTW 4070

[@wk4262]

RIP DONALD SUTHERLAND 🙏

[@Roger-fs5yo]

RIP Donald Sutherland🙏

[@lonelyheroine]

This is the most emotional, tragic and powerful ending of any other film I have watched on the sacrifices soldiers made and still make. It literally gave me chills.

[@followingtheroe1952]

Beautiful story. This isn't Christ, but the Soldiers perception of him in his mind. He can perform all of these party tricks to entertain the masses, but is incapable of saving him from his suffering. Hes alienated from the other soldiers who had the "honour" of dying.

[@Aivottaja]

Compared to Joe, they basically received a blessing.

[@randymarsengill6035]

Brilliant scene from a brilliant movie. From a phenomenal book 📕.

[@jackgrant9301]

I watched this film the other day. It's probably the most moving film ive ever seen. It really resonates with me, and strangely, I really relate to it. I am not a veteran, or physically disabled, but I am autistic, and the frustration of trying everything you can to communicate and being ignored really resonates with me.

[@360whiplash]

That one black soldier in the background got left out of the card game and stayed behind after all the other soldiers left.

[@rivera229]

I find that interesting too since in World War 1 the black soldiers were the first American troops sent to Europe to fight after America joined the War. I wonder what this could mean, though I know this is symbolism to racism of the time that is for sure. Very interesting stuff!

[@absinthefandubs9130]

Huh, never even noticed him. There's that old black woman at the christmas party looking for her son, and there aren't that many black people in the entire movie. Wonder if that was intentional.

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

@@absinthefandubs9130 quite possibly

[@randymarsengill6035]

Where’s the Mexican ? lol 😂

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

That just means he won't die. Considering this is WWI, he's lucky.

[@phargow]

okay, if Donald is the Christ, then i'm not an atheist anymore.

[@davidshuey7603]

Johnny Got His Gun is the anti-war movie I first learned about in a Metallica "One" video. (Seeing them in August.) But didn't know Donald Sutherland played Blackjack in the same movie. "I can do almost anything but hit a 12." I feel you, big JC. I mean, DS.

[@Voucher765]

It was actually a commentary towards the Vietnam War which in 1971 was ongoing

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

Of all the roles Donald Sutherland has been in, from Body Snatcher, to evil Warden, to space cowboy, I never thought for the life of me that he'd play Jesus Christ. Makes Dogma much hilarious in hindsight considering both he and Alanis Morisette are Canadian and both play Jesus and God respectfully.

[@adamori9736]

Jesus has finally joined the dead. RIP

[@RealDiaFr]

Such a profound scene.

[@gabrielramirez4801]

Just finished reading the book. Loved it.

[@chrisgomez860]

It's crazy how Donald Sutherland played Jesus in this antiwar movie, then in outbreak he played an evil military leader.

[@monsider]

n.b. He pulls the Ace of Spades from his nose.

[@SaintMichael-js5kh]

The “That’s nothing but superstition” response to Jesus gets me every time.

[@rotfaun2852]

So haunting

[@DocClyde1972]

He’s already got his.

[@OVERDOSED87]

i'm just fine... oohhhh i'm just fine 😅🤣😂

[@OVERDOSED87]

i didn't knew Big Swede here is a singer / songwriter silver lady

[@ArvelDreth]

I couldn't even tell that this was supposed to be Jesus Christ.

[@one_step_sideways]

Because it technically was not. That was the soldiers' perception of Christ.

[@firstnamelastname564]

I want to play golf with Jesus Christ, not just in my dreams, yet I never played golf. I always have that same dream once a week.

[@solidsalt3412]

Better start learning before you meet him

[@one_step_sideways]

Once a week? Makes sense

[@javiersanchez9739]

The guy that speaks at 1:00, where is that accent from?

[@sarabrown7689]

A minute or so later the one guy calls him "The big Swede" so I would assume he's suppose to be Swedish. :)

[@AradSP]

Sounds heavy Irish. Big Swede is a nickname, maybe referring to Rutabaga vegetable which grows in Ireland

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

@@AradSP Mate, it's definitely not Irish. Sounds more like Norwegian, but could also be Swedish. Lol where did you get Irish from?

[@absinthefandubs9130]

Dude was a Swede in the book too so defo Swedish

[@BardicheOverhead]

I'm Swedish. His accent is Swedish for sure.

[@andreistoica2470]

you can put Celestia in a parody in FIM

[@360whiplash]

I think he did a pretty good job portraying Jesus Christ in this film. If the movie was remade today, that part would more than likely be portrayed be a female or black male just for diversity's sake.

[@calvinharris1215]

Sorry I have to disagree he's Aramaic and if there's a remake the actor have to be Aramaic actor

[@absinthefandubs9130]

This is likely the dumbest comment I've ever read in any relation to Johnny Got His Gun. If it was a person Joe himself would wish to change minds with it so he could have a functioning body while the decerebrate mind is in the body that everybody thought was decerebrate. Doubt you even notice what I just did there.

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

Bare in mind it wouldn't have worked within the context of the story. The way Jesus appeared to Joe, is often debated as fantasy v reality, with it leaning toward's fantasy since Joe's mind was deteriorating through isolation induced madness. However the way he appeared to Joe was how the average White American Christian during WWI viewed Jesus. Blonde Haired, blue eyed, all around nice guy. The appearance interpretation itself was one of many things that caused Cassius Clay to convert to Islam and change his name to Muhammad Ali to begin with, because he didn't feel right watching his father paint a mural of an Aryan Jesus. If say a black christian person or Asian christian person were to be in a situation like Joe, we'd probably see their interpretations of Jesus as how they want to see Jesus.

[@jerimiahstephens8580]

@@calvinharris1215 you mean Arabic? Granted he would be northern European but he'd still be part of the same "race" of people. Probably had black or brown hair with brown eyes and a tan skin. Makes sense. Doesnt matter either way.

[@agarlicsorbet6482]

making it racial again and trying to make hypothetical enemies. You dudes are insane.

[@andreistoica2470]

No matter he have Shagy hair and a beared

[@andreistoica2470]

Christ is male only

[@jiveassturkey8849]

Jesus is referred to in the Bible as male, as is God. “The Father and the Son”

[@Chavez_Soria]

Ok?

[@NghiLa-yv6kv]

Good👼DS! Let’s go to “Dirty Dozen” , or perhaps “Eye of the Needle” or many many more… We love Donald Sutherland. And He loves us. Best blessed wishes Y’all🇺🇸/🌎!..