Madison Bike swap finds What do you get for $1000 bucks at a swap?

In this video we go to the annual Brazen Dropouts swap in Madison Wisconsin. There are always good vintage finds there. My friend Cyril and I pick up a treasure trove of parts and I did find a bike to take all the components off of. Please let me know if this is the type of content you would like to see on the channel.
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[@StanEby1]

Wow, I was not expecting to see Lon Haldeman, my hero and the GOAT. In the Great American Bike Race who could touch him. In a class by himself. What an incredible human being. I am bowled over. What a pleasant surprise.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Oh for sure. I asked for the price on an item and the guy yells behind him. LON, how much are these pedals.. Cyril and I looked at each other and we knew who was coming to the table! It was so cool. He's a local guy from around where i live so we'd see him on rides and such in the 80s/90s but haven't seen him since.

[@DavidCasebeer-wf8by]

Seeing Lon was a treat. I have not seen him in over 40 years.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

@@DavidCasebeer-wf8by it's been at least 25 years for me. See him at a few trade shows

[@nielskjr5432]

- they have plastic bikes here. Ha ha😄 Very good John! 👍

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I shouldn't make fun. I own a plastic (carbon fiber) bicycle. lol

[@RichardShearer-nc6tk]

Very fun video. Many thanks for seeing all the great stuff without endangering my wallet. :-) A.S. Gillott (pronounced JILL-it, I believe, but I could be wrong.) was an English frame building shop from pre-War through the 1950s and perhaps into the 1960s - by 1970, they were no more. It was a to[p-drawer operation with top-drawer builders. Some truly gorgeous bikes came out of the Gillot factory. These day, Gillot is most known for a certain 15 year old apprentice they hired c.1947 by the name of Ron Cooper. By some point in the 1950s, every Gillot frame passed through his hands. By 1970, he was building under his own name, which he continued to do until he dies in 2012. Ron Cooper was always a one man operation with maybe an apprentice here and there. He has a bigger presence in the US than most such builders, especially in the Bay Area as he sold through the late, lamented American Odyssey shop in Sausalito. His frames clean, understated, better looking the closer you get, and they ride great. As some old ad campaign for something or other said: Ask the man who owns one.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Cool. never saw one. Glad your wallet is ok

[@BicycleRestorationMan]

Wow, I may have to spend the money to fly out there. A Cannondale for $300 and the prices on all those parts you bought is insane! Thanks for sharing John.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I did pay for a lot of it. The copper brooks $100, Regina chain $100 Rigina freewheel $90 Superbe pedals $60 etc. Come on by next year. There is one near me next month if your in the Chicago area.

[@daniellarson3068]

This video convinces me more than ever that my Schwinn Crosscut with Biopace chainring will be a collector's item in a few years if i don't get it smashed in a truck - bicycle accident.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Stay away from those trucks.

[@daniellarson3068]

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage Thanks

[@hpgrant601]

Paramount Track bike is my favorite and the Legend of Cycling top class vid🤘🏽

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I hear ya. Ive yet to purchase one!

[@davecipres6612]

What a great haul. Bike swaps are my favorite. It is just like Christmas 🎄

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

THey are tons of fun!

[@monochromebluess]

Enjoyable video and look forward to the previous trip’s video to come. Great haul of parts purchased. More of these shows please. Thanks for posting.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I appreciate you watching. I just edited the Richard Schwinn Waterford video and will come out next friday am.

[@Paramount531]

I found one of those Cannondales in a dumpster, it had a partial Sante group on it, I made some fairly good money parting out that bike! San Diego had a twice a year bike swap at their velodrome, at least they did prior to Covid. I have relocated to the Boise area, a quick search shows they do occasionally have bike swaps. Sometimes I get lucky and buy something, other times I just walk around and drool over the stuff for sale. I once bought a Holland Titanium frame, also a pink Trek 2200 for my wife in virtually new condition, the old tires were cracked but the rest was perfect. I'd also look for parts to flip on Ebay to continue to support my bike habit. I built the Holland frame with an Ultegra group. I have a thing for Hollands as I built a shop in San Diego for Bill Holland. I'd never buy one new but used they are a small fraction of the original cost.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Turns out the Cannondale frames are out there and they are very inexpensive. If you look on my channel you'll see mine. I recreated a bike that I had built in the 80s. Everything but the rims are the same. I've been tempted to flip bikes and parts but I just dont have the time or energy. If I have parts laying around I keep them and give them to those that need them. Cheers!

[@uncleronny6748]

Some history to add to your trip notes about that Houdaille PowerCam drive you were fondling... I purchased one in 1983 to race alongside Lon Haldeman in RAAM coincidentally (in that race you are pitted against the distance/time and not other riders realistically). The early version that arrived from Texas had a non indexed cam near the bottom bracket. The installer had to orient the cam to the correct position by means of different thickness plastic shims and then lock it in by drilling a hole in the BB shell and pounding in a hardened roll pin.That install still ranks as the most caveman operation I've ever performed on a decent bike. Still have the all Gold ALAN with the round fork blades it was in but had to have the pin EDMed out later. Newer versions of the PowerCam had a movable part and were more civilized. As for "what was it like to ride?"... most of the pedaling force was applied between 1 and 5 o'clock and kinda jerky so if you like to spin no good. Also, I bought mine with a 67T chainring but by tip off time at the Santa Monica pier I sported a more sensible 60T (LOL). The worst part of the whole system was there wasn't a derailleur with enough capacity to handle that much wrap up. I experimented with a Super Record / Rally cages affair but no good. I started the race with a Huret Duopar Titanium rear but all too soon found out that this machine was not for hill climbing. I switched back to the trusty Gios full Super Record but the damage was done...switching from cam drive to normal round pedaling is about as messed up as you can be when it comes to muscle memory. And that damn thing cost like $325 in pre Bidenomics dollars. At 3:08 the RRB (Ron Boi) you scrolled past was Haldemans ride early on until he started waving Allez's overhead (I'm referencing the old Specialized poster).

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Thats a great story about the power-cam. I had to set one up for my boss at Action cyclery when I worked there. He rode it for a summer and gave it up. Crazy having to drill it. We had one in our sales case for two years before someone actually purchased it at our cost. I guess bio-pace was the alternative after that. Did you ride Biopace? I didnt like it myself. Thanks for the info!

[@karlnordinger5968]

Lots of interesting stuff , you say mixte I say step through. Remember reading about Lon Haldeman in Bicycling magazine 1980's , where he once said " I don't feel right unless I ride at least 80 miles every day. " Thought the Brook's colt saddle was a Regal at first - always liked copper rivets on leather better than the Rolls .

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Hi. I've always understood that a step through was any bike with a lower top tube. A mixte frame was one where the top tube went straight down and met another pair of stays were the rear brake was mounted lower. That gave much better rear brake performance. I noticed that the colt saddle is actually smaller than the rest by about a half an inch!

[@efrainsantiagohernandez9535]

Excelente compra la d la bicicleta Cannondale hermosa nunca habia visto una asi siempre quice una Cannondale gran eleccion al comprarla q la disfrutes 👍👌🇵🇷

[@zbillster]

05:10 Note the 1947 "STI" control setup on the handlebar. Nice bike!

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

before its time!

[@paulgaida2601]

My father had a A.S. Gillott here in the U.K. It was I think from the late 60’s or early 70’s. Later I rode it, but corrosion meant it broke one morning just above the bottom bracket disconnecting the seat tube! It was a lovely frame. I still have the Nuovo Record components which I dug out after seeing your videos. Thanks for the content, keep it up! PS my father had a friend who rode for a cycling club in Flint, Michigan.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I saw my A.S. just a few weeks ago. I didn't know much about them. Sorry it broke! That Record group is worthy of another frameset!

[@1a2b3c4.]

I send you the $100 for the Cannondale frame after you take the parts off. Great looking bike.

[@picshooter]

I had A full Sante Group on my Schwinn Circuit. Great grouppo!. I wish we had swaps like that in Florida.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

You probably do have swaps. Get busy on Google. I'd be surprised if there wasn't any around. When I worked in a shop in the 80s we called the Sante Group the Answer to the question that nobody asked. Meaning why does this fancy Ultegra kit exist. That being said it is very cool and I wanted that group represented in my collection.

[@1a2b3c4.]

With a bike market who wouldn't go nuts. Wow.

[@charleslicha2770]

Sante is a wonderful groupset. My candy apple purple 1990 Klein Quantum has Sante on it. Painted the stem, seatpost and spokes a matching metallic white. Several years ago I found a Klein Performance touring bike in matching purple with Sante groupset. Sante looks great with a red frame.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Oh yeah that would work. I have to figure out what to put the parts on. Even if I buy a larger vintage 80s Cannondale. That would work.

[@G_Ozare]

DROOL!!!😅 Thanks for sharing John!

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Lots of fun stuff there! Thanks for watching.

[@Giova-sd8oh]

Super!

[@grahamandrew9755]

I love this stuff

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Yeah! me too!

[@bulgieR]

Get those tubulars untied ASAP, they take on a "set" if you leave them tightly folded too long. Preferably mounted on rims for storage, but just hanging loose is OK too if you don't have rims to spare. Just not tightly folded.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Great advice. Already done.

[@Jinedan]

Good stuff - wish we had something like that swap near me in Atlanta.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Have you searched around on Google? something tells me that there might be some there.

[@kurtschindler6252]

John, psyched to see you snag the Cdale with the Sante group. Nice buy and can’t wait to here and see where the group ends up. BTW - I wanted you to buy the green Raleigh. So cool.

[@kurtschindler6252]

Btw - what size is the Cannondale frame? I might be interested

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

@@kurtschindler6252 hey! I think it's a 54

[@solomon4750]

John. I believe the Brooks Colt is a kids size saddle 🤦

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

It is slightly smaller yes

[@wildukind442]

uh! the Rossin would be good. but still great deals

[@MrCyfriend]

The Rossin was my size. I raced one in 1984. I was seriously struggling not to impulse buy that bike. It was gorgeous. -Cyril

[@MrCyfriend]

Rossin owner is the same guy who sold John the Sante equipped Cannondale. I discovered I raced with him 42yrs ago. From the cobwebs of our 60yr old brains we both remembered each other’s names. Crazy small world moment!

[@1a2b3c4.]

Like Christmas and becoming a little kid again 🤣😂

[@meadows408]

I'm jealous of the Sante group. I'm rehabbing a TreK 770 that has Sante derailleurs. So far I've sourced Sante dt shifters and also a brake set but no levers or crank set. The rear derailleur needs new pulleys, they are not a common size, a 9 cog and 10 cog. The plastic pulleys are a mess, delaminating. I'll keep looking. The Blue saddle would look great on my 84 Raleigh Road Ace. Keep up the videos and btw what size is the C'dale frame? It looks small to me. Thanks,

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Sounds like a great project. Hard to find those components that are not scratched up and beat up. I believe the frames are 54

[@1a2b3c4.]

? What? Campagnolo skewers for $20 bucks....? Wow

[@davecipres6612]

Did you go to the other bike swap during Superbowl weekend? I'm anxious to see 😊

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

That is coming up this weekend. I will be there

[@davecipres6612]

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage haha! That shows you where my mind is. I thought that football game already happened, hahaa.

[@stilh20]

If the Cannondale frame is a 56, I would be interested in buying it. Let me know.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Hi Craig, No it's a 54 I believe. Thanks

[@ademirvargasgoncalves9454]

Eu queria estar aí pra comprar uma bike.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Do you have any used bike shows near you?

[@philipbradfield1404]

John, I have a Schwinn Super Sport from 1973 (Sunset Orange) that I want to sell. It is in good condition and also has a Schwinn generator and light system (front and back). I am in the Wash. DC area. Are you interested.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Hi. sorry. I have plenty of bikes! I already have a 71. Thanks

[@steveconway11]

John how do you find out about these swaps?

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

There are a couple around here that have been here for ages. Just google bike swap and punch in some cities. Also you can go to Bikeforums.net and sometimes they talk about them there in the forum.

[@benblaser2593]

How much are you selling the frame for???

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I'm bringing it to the show. Or it'll be at my garage if you come to the party. 150 or best

[@maxwellspeedwell2585]

Want to sell the road silks? Please untie them.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

Hey hey, those tires were purchased for display purposes only. They were not rideable when I purchased them.

[@richardware9676]

Isn´t that Cannondale a White Lightning? Please sell it to me, I´m not joking!

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

I'm selling the frame set but not the parts. I want the parts

[@richardware9676]

@@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage I would love to get the Frameset. How can I get in touch with you best?

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

@@richardware9676 supposedly it's sold. February 12th someone is coming to a bike swap here and it is committed to that person. If they don't buy it i will let you know

[@MrPhotodoc]

Come down to my barn in Macomb, IL and bring your wallet.

[@JohnsVintageRoadBikeGarage]

whatcha got?