MaesumaTOP#8 Winners Finals - Nietono (Pichu) Vs. Hero (Bowser) SSBU Ultimate Tournament

[@raikou3187]

As a fellow pichu main i must say, pichu is the sweatiest character and also the most depressing because you could be completely destroying someone and lose a reverse 3 stock off a couple mashes that stopped your combo however pichus crawl is so cute it makes it all worth it

[@gabrielmoravargas4728]

ye and I love his taunts they are just the very best

[@0yaSumi6908]

@@gabrielmoravargas4728 "PIIIIIIIII- chuiu" O-o

[@gard8053]

The lightest character vs the heaviest character

[@ambiguous8661]

Light vs dark

[@ambiguous8661]

Good vs evil

[@ambiguous8661]

Red vs blue

[@ambiguous8661]

Slave vs king

[@AshtonOrtega]

Who is heavier

[@oyeh8908]

Good to see that Pichu’s still tournament viable at least.

[@もうこ-c9o]

5:56ここの掴みエグい

[@hayatoconcon1106]

にえとのピチュー見れなくなるのつらい

[@Mortis_XII]

Yo who are these casters? I need them in my life

[@Mekwek]

Miss Piggy on the comms

[@dvaccaro96]

I think the casters made an unappreciated point about tier lists. The community typically looks at tier lists as a list of characters by their viability in OPTIMAL play. But humans don't always play optimal, if ever. So, the fact that some characters, like Bowser, are effective and easier to use effectively, should be counted as higher, whereas terribly difficult characters like the Pikas should be lower imo.

[@user-wm5ot5uj3q]

In theory tier lists include how easy it is to play characters, which is why Cloud, Diddy and Mario for example were ranked high in Smash 4 and Sheik and Pikachu who were arguably the best characters when played optimally (except Bayo lol) were not in the Top 3.

[@dvaccaro96]

@@user-wm5ot5uj3q I think I agree for smash 4, but it looks like it is not a systematic approach. In Ultimate, the two best characters are widely regarded to be Pika and Joker, and they are both recognized as very hard to master at high level.

[@user-wm5ot5uj3q]

@@dvaccaro96 I honestly don’t see many people anymore who say that pika is the best character in the game. It was the same in smash 4, everyone kept saying „pikachu is the best he has almost no losing mus“ but almost no one played him and Esam was the only top player who insisted that he was the best. At the end of smash 4’s lifespan he was regarded more so as a high tier. In the end, it’s about results. It’s fun to theorize who the best characters are when played optimally, but if it doesn’t show in tournament and other characters keep winning, what’s the point? The characters with the best results are rather easy: Rob, Wolf, Roy, Aegis, Palu etc.

[@hooks3063]

the commentary is so relaxing

[@Bujinnovation]

I’m the most respectful way possible, one of the casters sounds a little like Ms. Piggy.

[@SleepySeal121]

I love these commentators. They’re so fun and chill.

[@Nandezaron]

wonder why he never edge guards. there were a few times I would have just ran off and downair

[@DomTheBom-y5o]

The amount of times I would have simply just thundered or daired off stage

[@philamarante5045]

I was wondering why he wasn’t going off stage at all. He seemed to settle with t-jolt and forward smash most of the set as a ledge guard.

[@champignonette3719]

One of the casters sounds like mickey mouse i can't concentrate lmao

[@roman3mp1r39]

this is why I don't mind vs pichu, they just die at 50 lol

[@panagiotiszymaris914]

Why does the commentator sound like the gingerbread man lol

[@supermariomaker1734]

I always use bowser against pichu because he is super heavy which means he can punish pichu with a well timed punch who’s known for combo game.

[@dvaccaro96]

That is not what "superheavy" means lmao

[@nessbrawlaaja]

Using super as an adjective there makes sense

[@asyra3059]

Dat bower bad azz

[@dubspot3952]

nice range on that pivot grab kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6axcpd5lMlpp9E

[@mrCetus]

One of the casters sounds like mickey mouse i can't concentrate lmao