Magach: The Israeli M48?! | Part 2

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@robertdonnell8114
@robertdonnell8114 Жыл бұрын
My first tank was the M-60A1 which was a lot like the late M-48. I would have no problem operating this tank. It was just a little before my time but many friends handed down some lore, the Gasoline powered M-48s were very fast compared to the diesels. The first turbine engine tank in the US Army was an M-48 hull. M-48s were used in Vietnam not because M-60s were unavailable but because millions of rounds on 90mm were available and it made sense to use it up, as all 105mm was headed to Europe. The last track that you would see on the American M-48s were the steel double pin with octagonal replaceable pads. Almost everything was interchangeable between M-48s and M-60s and you would sometimes see parts from the wrong ones installed.
@Ostenjager
@Ostenjager Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment right here.
@stephenhogan5421
@stephenhogan5421 Жыл бұрын
W seq
@MrRacing44
@MrRacing44 8 ай бұрын
I trained on the M-48 fort Knox’s then on to fort hood and on to the M -60 A1 2AD HELL ON WHEELS . My last tank was an M60A3 . 😊
@dicebed
@dicebed Жыл бұрын
Regarding Israel replacing the commander's rotating cupola with a fixed cupola - When I was in the Army, 1986 to 1990, as a tank officer - I heard that the Israelis replaced the rotating cupola because when the tank was hit, the cupola had a tendency to be knocked off, and if the tank commander was standing in the hatch, he would get cut in two - I don't know if there is any evidence of that actually happening, but I always thought about that when I was in my M60 - BTW, I served on M60s at the same time that the M1was being fielded - but, I never got a chance to serve in a unit that was equipped with M1s 😞
@ZevGross
@ZevGross Жыл бұрын
The IDF serial number prefix 109 indicates that this tank began its mid-east career in the Jordanian army.
@markstewart6667
@markstewart6667 Жыл бұрын
The Chieftan actually gave my son and I a tour of this tank when it was part of the Littlefield Collection. Thanks for bringing back fond memories :)
@toomanyuserids
@toomanyuserids 9 ай бұрын
I remember a car club tour of Littlefield. Nicholas' discussion of why the Panther was nothing less. "See that gearbox, that whole shaft and bevel drive for the cooling fans that can only be field replaced as a unit the Germans never had on hand? On a Sherman that was a fan belt."
@ehjchow
@ehjchow Жыл бұрын
Very happy to see a tour of the M-48 tank, I was loader and then gunner of M-48A1 when I served in ROC Army, Armor Brigade, Tank company in 1980. Brough back lot of memory.
@Jan-hx9rw
@Jan-hx9rw Жыл бұрын
The unity sight had an illuminated circular reticle that you could use to aim the coax (or hip shoot the main gun if you were within battlesight range - typically under 1200 meters, but more likely under 800). Was a handy thing to have just before dawn or as sunset was happening, and kind of useful when another tank was illuminating via spotlight or you had parachute flares hanging above your target array. I believe it was a red circle. Trained on the M48A2 at Knox in 71, my VT Guard unit had M48A1, when I got out of the Regular Army from 72-79, I wound up in a Reserve unit that had just traded in its M48A3s for M60s and crewed/TC one for 6 years. We fired M48A5s for gunnery, and the fire control system was exactly the same on both the M60 and the M48A5. The stereoscopic rangefinder on the M48A1 was a pain to fly the geese, the coincidence rangefinder on the M48A2 operated the same as the version on the M48A5 and M60/M60A1. My understanding (a bit fuzzy all these years later) was that the Army began retrofitting diesel engines into M48 and M48A1 tanks to create the M48A3, and all tanks that were rebuilt to M48A5 were run through the M48A3 automotive upgrade process first, which explains why the M48, M48A1, M48A3, and most M48A5 have 5 return rollers. Some M48A2 had to have gone through the upgrade process as well (easier, since they didn't have to rework the rear of the hull for the fuel tanks, power pack, and add reworked rear deck and grill doors) because I saw a few that were converted to M48A5 but only had 3 return rollers per side. Fired the M48A5 from 1980 through summer of 1985 at Ft Drum, and saw them all lined up in a motor pool ready for transfer to foreign sales when I was pulling an extra annual training stint during the summer of 86. My unit transitioned from the M60 to the M60A3 in December of 1986. Nothing says "Count everything RIGHT NOW!" like being told you're going to sign a hand receipt for 6 M60A3 tanks valued at $12 million. I had my platoon's tank commanders sign for their individual tanks right after I signed for the platoon, because that would be an awful lot of drills with an amount paid of "NONE" on the Leave and Earning Statement if they all got misplaced.... Regarding the escape hatch, make sure you do NOT grip the handle, use an open hand to move it because as soon as the lugs clear the edge of the opening in the hull, the 200 or so pounds of steel escape hatch are going to accelerate towards the center of the earth, as will your hand and arm, while the rest of you remains perched above the driver's seat. Unless you have forearm strength like the Incredible Hulk or Popeye, you will be messed up for quite a while afterward.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this very interesting insight! As I was doing the compulsory service in the Italian army in 1974, I was driving the Leopard 1A2 and we were just phasing out the M47 and received the early M60, roughly over 300 units, but my comrades mentioned that it wasn't well liked by the the crews because it was considered a slow and fat target with a complicated and difficult to maintain TC cupola. Likewise we all disliked the stereoscopic rangefinder on all the tanks including the Leopard1A2, as it was not practical to operate. Hope I didn't bore you..
@cboetigphone
@cboetigphone Жыл бұрын
very similar to my M60A1 commander and gunner systems. The main sight had a circular reticule. Main gun but also for the coax (if it worked).
@allenrichardson2956
@allenrichardson2956 Жыл бұрын
I led a platoon of M60A1’s in Korea (1978-79), until we replaced them with M48A5’s. The two tank battalions of the 2d Infantry Division were the only M48A5’s in the active US Army, and our tanks were intended to be turned over to the ROK when Jimmy Carter withdrew the 2d Infantry from Korea. Each or our tanks had an additional M60D machinegun mounted on the loader’s hatch. That was a good thing, because it gave us a weapon that would fire the 7.62x51 ammo would not run in the M73/M219 coax that never worked. That never happened, and the M48A5’s were eventually turned in for M1 tanks.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 Жыл бұрын
@@allenrichardson2956 In the First Infantry Division's Unit Armorer Course I was trained to maintain the M219 (and M73 and M85) because they were still in the inventory in 1985 even though the instructor complained that the guns fell apart when fired. At the time the M240 and M240C were in service for the M1 alongside the M2 HB. The M219 was supposed to be replaced but the tanks using that gun were getting replaced instead.
@rph111745
@rph111745 Жыл бұрын
The illuminated circle sight in the periscope was called the Infinity sight. Usede for firing area targets with the coax.
@herbertkeithmiller
@herbertkeithmiller Жыл бұрын
I don't know how long it's been but I'm glad to hear Nick say "Oh bugger the tank's on fire!"
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 Жыл бұрын
Where the M48 hulls ever converted into anything else by the IDF? Centurions were turned into many different vehicles such as heavy APCs.
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 10 ай бұрын
Some M48A5 were converted into "Pereh", which is a mobile AT missile launcher. Its disguised as a normal tank (has a fake gun barrel) so it can fit in with a normal tank battalion and not be targeted, but it has a hidden missile launcher that rises from the hull to fire Spike missiles. Its still in service in fact, only recently declassified.
@roceye
@roceye Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I went to a Jewish camp in Michigan in the late seventies. My camp counselor was a Israeli guy, ex-IDF, who had fought in the '73 war. I think he was tank crewman in a M48. He told us how some of the tanks would catch on fire and how it happened to his tank after it had been hit. He was a good guy- but he was also scarred up pretty bad from it.
@clmccomas
@clmccomas Жыл бұрын
My Troop Commander had a Israel officer in his Armor Officer Advanced Course, that had 3 tanks shot out from underneath him. On the third one he was blown out of the hatch. Needless to say, he was not a fan of the overhead protected hatch position.
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 Жыл бұрын
@@clmccomasthat makes no sense 🤷‍♂️
@clmccomas
@clmccomas Жыл бұрын
@@alangordon3283 Israeli tank commanders during the 1970's were well known for standing way up in the commander's open hatch. Sometimes way past what we called in the US army, name tape defilade, to get better situational awareness. So this TC was in 3 tanks that everyone in the tank died except for him. On the first 2 he got out under his own power. On the 3rd, he was blown out of the tank and woke up in the clearing station. If the hatch had been locked in the open protected position, he would have in the best case, died of a head and neck trauma instead of being burnt to death.
@echoredfour
@echoredfour 4 ай бұрын
USAREUR TC did above name tag defilade unless on gunnery up 90s. Desert storm i guess changed that. I remember the unity sight but never had to use it. The M32 and 105D was always there.
@Waltham1892
@Waltham1892 Жыл бұрын
First time I saw an M48, it was an A5. I'd left active duty and joined the 1/185th Armor in the California Army National Guard. They were honest tanks and the crews knew how to keep them running. The FCS was stereoscopic range finding and we had the IR search light, but never used it. We switched to M60A3's after I'd been with the unit about a year.
@airborneranger-ret
@airborneranger-ret Жыл бұрын
Crew comfort can be a force multiplier - something often forgotten ;)
@SpineyLobster
@SpineyLobster Жыл бұрын
Old tanker here (19Z) The driver seat has a dump function where it swings down from the raised position. This allows access to the escape hatch.
@ak9989
@ak9989 Жыл бұрын
23 years 19E, Kilo
@Schaneification
@Schaneification Жыл бұрын
Texas NG still had some M48A5 in 1979/1980 . I was at Fort Hood at the time in the 1st Cav and help train some Texas NG tankers .
@cboetigphone
@cboetigphone Жыл бұрын
Interesting comments about Sabot and Heat. The gunnery manuals for the M60A1 at the time (1975 called for HEAT against heavy armor (T-10s) just as Chieftain says. However in Amor Officer Basic we were briefed on the results of the US Armor Center's lessons learned from the 1973 war. SABOT was far more effective than given credit in doctrine. The main problem with the SABOT of 1973 was that it often deflected when hitting a slope. The Army modified the SABOT and put a cap on the round that had a little bit of play in any angle. This made the round more likely to dig into the armor rather than bounce off. Bottom line in 1975 we were taught to make APDS our primary round for all armor. About the vertical racks. In addition to ready ammo, this is where you would store White Phosphorus rounds if equipped. They were for long range smoke important as now there were long range AT missiles. Needed vertical storage as the Phosphorus had a low melt point and if stored on its side, the filler could become unbalanced if the inside of the tank was hot. Looked like a HEP round painted green with the same ballistics. Also the SABOT shown are APDSFS rounds which were very late 70s, early 80s round. Until late 70s you would have APDS rounds.
@yuvalbeery2493
@yuvalbeery2493 Жыл бұрын
In Israel, Magach tank crewmen were nicknamed "Chips" because the hydraulic system would get them filled with oil (another version is that they would get fried when the tank was hit because of it)
@nougan_gamer
@nougan_gamer Жыл бұрын
24:17 The mysterious origin of 1 of the greatest tank design evolution have been solved! The sloped front glacis plate was designed by an engineer who just loved slides as a kid and wanted to have one on his tank too!
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 Жыл бұрын
the cams and labels in the ballistic computer could be changed for whatever type of ammunition you were carrying when I was in Germany we switched from APDS to APFSDS
@billkew5385
@billkew5385 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having the music at the absolute minimum volume.
@greggpomerleau6522
@greggpomerleau6522 4 ай бұрын
The access door on the turret floor of M48/M60 series tanks was to service the batteries, which were accessible via that door when the turret was traversed over the back deck. To drop the escape hatch in an emergency in an M48/M60 series tank, there is red handle behind the driver's left elbow called the 'dump handle', that will drop the seat to the left while at the same time raising it (via the spring load), enabling you to access the escape hatch in a hurry.
@laurisikio
@laurisikio Жыл бұрын
What a pleasure to have Inside the Chieftain's Hatch back! The video is just like the old ones, even the music is there. I wish the name of the video had said "Inside the Chieftain's Hatch", I almost ignored these. Good job, keep these coming!
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Жыл бұрын
I agree, i almost didn't watch it
@rickjohnson4956
@rickjohnson4956 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Nick! I was a mechanic (63C) in 1/68 Armor (M-60's) in Germany 1966-1968.I managed to get assigned to the battalion maintenance wrecker. We had a guy assigned as a turret mechanic and they wanted a backup for him, so they sent me to a "turret" repair class at Wildflicken. I remember practically nothing of the class aside from they had a cut away turret and I thought the ballistic computer was larger than that M48 example and I thought it was located on the left side. Thankfully I was never called upon to fix anything in a turret, I was content to drive around pulling off rear decks and such. The closest I came to that was lifting a worn out main gun tube out and back into an M60 qualifying at Vilcek.
@drewdederer8965
@drewdederer8965 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the Israelis would set a range of 1200 when firing AP as it was for practical purposes flat trajectory all the way to 1800, that may have been started as a work around.
@mikeashely8198
@mikeashely8198 Жыл бұрын
Just found your station very interesting I'm glad I was a Marine and was a maintenance man on amtraks both p5s and p7s lot more room in them than they are in those tanks
@bobforman3489
@bobforman3489 Жыл бұрын
Our M48's, A2C and A3 had their batteries stored below the turret. Also, the driver controlled the heater and the high-water seal between the turret and hull. As I recall, our computer had slots for HE, Sabot, Heat and WP. There may have been one for canister or bdehive but I can't recall.
@johngilbert6036
@johngilbert6036 Жыл бұрын
The radio is a AN/VRC12 push button radio. That was my job when with 1/10th Cav at Ankhe Vietnam. I was an A/L RTO, it is amazing tanks can not fight without us loading 5 ton trucks with ammo to send them in a fight both HE and Black Cannister, 50cal and M-60 7.62. I was Night time RTO, so I was the fuel truck shotgun rider since I was the only one not busy in the morning. Loved the M48 it was an awesome and reliable tank. M113s a Russian 51 could hurt it bad. The M88 was the coolest vehicle we had. it would shoot flame 4 feet out the exhaust and took a B40 Hit with no damage. Note if you turn the steering wheel to either extreme the tank will spin around in place and can damage the road when it does.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting again to watch the 2nd part of the IDF M48 quite modified with the 105 mm M68 gun replacing the 90 mm gun including modifications to accommodate the bigger rounds. That said the IDF finally managed to start introducing their own much more simpler cupola but despite having a improved umbrella-like hatch in order to have a good view around for the TC without exposing his head as little as possible I was quite surprised that it was fitted only with four periscopes! Why?? Anyway good job as always 👍👍👍
@JohnHubbuch
@JohnHubbuch Жыл бұрын
There was a illuminated ring reticle in the unity window for use with the coax, at least there was in the M60A3. 14B2_8Cav1CD
@ak9989
@ak9989 Жыл бұрын
I remember being on m48s in Korea and at Fort Irwin. Weird going from an m60A3 to one in Korea, no laser range finder and no tts. But then to the M1 at Fort Riley, a thing of beauty. 23 years 19E,Kilo!
@julmdamaslefttoe3559
@julmdamaslefttoe3559 Жыл бұрын
Weird to still think the US keeps 10s of thousands of m48's/m60s Incase world ever goes to crap. As they say, A tanks better than none, And a 90mm Still is a Great support gun.
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 Жыл бұрын
the main reason you're having so much trouble getting in and out is that the seat is adjusted all the way forward the long handle at the front of the seat adjusts up and down the small handle just behind the seat post adjusted forward and back and the small handle at the end of the armrest is the seat dump lever in this case painted white (they are normally painted red) when the sea dump handle is pulled the seat will go all the way back and all the way up as well as swinging down vertically
@xt6wagon
@xt6wagon Жыл бұрын
I assume floor hatches are far easier to use when you are sitting on the ceiling. Also motivation to use them at its peak.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 Жыл бұрын
Learned something--didn't know the M48 had a steering wheel. Thanks.
@rider660r
@rider660r Жыл бұрын
My father was a M48 mechanic from 58 (joined in 57) into the late 60's,he was also the only one in his Batt. during his time in Germany (58-62?) that was cert to work on the firing control system.I forget the unit when he was in Germany but it was the sister Batt. and same time Elvis Gofor Presley was in.He was in charge of the M88 in his unit.After the Army and the next 40 years he was the #1 field heavy equipment mechanic for a major road construction company. I remember him saying one time many years ago to another service buddy that a german was test driving one of the tanks and was in the up position but failed to lock the hatch open.....went of kilter and off came his head also.IDK if it was a 48 or not,I didn't think West Germans had 48's but I'm not really up on the Cold War in Europe but it sounded like it was as I thought the german tank hatches hinged. Well after a quick search I guess they did have M48's in the Bundeswher. My uncle,even though he was like 6'3",was a loader in a M48 during the 60's.
@tsechejak7598
@tsechejak7598 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love the Merkava IV, the m48 magach 3-5 are the coolest IDF tanks even if they didn’t do so well
@libertycosworth8675
@libertycosworth8675 Жыл бұрын
Part 1 caught my attention, and led me here. Thanks for resuming this video series!
@TreverSlyFox
@TreverSlyFox Жыл бұрын
Trained on M48s in AIT at Ft. Knox in 1966 and spent 13 months in Korea in 1967 with M48-A2Cs, we needed the M48-A3s with the diesel there by the Easy Queen Mtn. Range. The poor Mo-Gasers had a hard time with the ups and down. Our positions on the DMZ were 17 minutes away but our life expectancy was only 11 minutes if Charley jumped.
@pukalo
@pukalo Жыл бұрын
9:57 spider crawling on the main gun guard rail
@fruckles
@fruckles Жыл бұрын
Woot, someone else noticed! ☕ [Solo]
@ifga16
@ifga16 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a retired vehicle that isn't stripped of gauges, handles and other important goodies then sprayed down with a gallon Mr. Rustit (TM) corrosion fluid to jam doors etc in place.
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il Жыл бұрын
The M48 was originally fitted with a stereoscopic rangefinder, but so many TC's brains were wired te right way to "fly the geese" (I'm one of them), the Army decided replace it with a coincidence type midway through the production run of the M48A2, resulting in the M48A2C - no prize for guessing what the "C" stood for. Quick and dirty guide to the M48 sub models M48 - no cupola, 50 cal on pintle mount, M48A1 - cupola, M48A2 - raised rear deck to reduce IR signature, M48A3 - Diesel engine replaced petrol one M48A5 - 105mm gun replaced 90mm. M48A4? M48, M48A1 or M48A2 with M48A3 upgrades and turret replaced with one from M60's (not M60A1's) when the M60's were converted to missile armed M60A2's. As the M60A2 had a short life, the M48A4 was stillborn. In Vietnam, many vehicles had the G305 vision riser installed. "The M1E1 cupola design used a G305 cupola riser with 9 non-removable vision blocks installed (some versions had 7 with the 2 rear blocks deleted) between the turret roof and the cupola. It also came with a new bulged hatch cover to provide the tank commander with more headroom and allowed him to reload the weapon while remaining under armor protection. A major drawback of both these cupolas was their inability to mount either daylight or infrared vision devices."
@IM_THE_CHANGLLER
@IM_THE_CHANGLLER Жыл бұрын
This mf worte a hole essay 💀💀
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il Жыл бұрын
That's supposed to read "not wired the right way"
@thomaswilloughby9901
@thomaswilloughby9901 Жыл бұрын
The Drivers IR scope went into the periscope position in the middle of the hatch not in the front periscope position. With the scope installed you could not open the hatch. The gunners sights had a lighted reticle. On the rear of the drivers seat column was a dump lever hit it the seat dumps and slides up exposing the hatch. Just unlock the handle and the hatch falls out. Crewed M48A5s in the 1980s.
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 9 ай бұрын
During basic in 1971 I had access to a M4A1, During one of my many AIT session I had access to a former range target M41 plus M48A3 and CEV used to train Engineer officers. Later in the reserves our sister BN on the same post had a M60 Turret trainer. As a 19D4H instructor we drove every version of the basic M113 and later I trained recruits on the M901 on how to use the TOW system. Fun times. Keep having fun.
@dmikulec
@dmikulec Жыл бұрын
I read that the Israelis discovered that the L7A1 had almost a flat trajectory out to 1500m. They would range the gun for 1500m and could point and shoot at anything from 1 to 1500m without ranging.
@genegleason4987
@genegleason4987 Жыл бұрын
We figured that out long b4 the Israelis. In Germany set battle-sights set to1200 meters index sabot on computer . You could hit anything from end of muzzle to 2000 meters . The super elevation on the APDS round was flat out to 2000 meters . 1965 3d armored division
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Жыл бұрын
Sir, there’s an open spot on the side. Put an Uzi there.
@edwinsalau150
@edwinsalau150 Жыл бұрын
You dump the seat by pulling on the handle! Then you kick the handle on the escape hatch it will fall free! Started out in 48A1s,2s3s in the USMC.48A5s in the NJANG.
@clmccomas
@clmccomas Жыл бұрын
The M48 remained in service with the 1/150 CAV WVNG until the late 80's.I remember seeing their M48 on railroad flatcars before being shipped to Israel in 1973. These M48 were quickly replaced by others in the inventory.l
@vonschlesien
@vonschlesien 11 ай бұрын
A note on phase-out: often, these are coordinated with phase-out of the reservists originally trained on them. Just like it's a pain to train up a freshly discharged Merkava tanker on a Magakh, it's equally a pain to train up a 40-year-old Magakh reserve tanker on Merkava. So you basically retire the Magakh at the same time you retire its crews.
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 10 ай бұрын
When these were phased out, we just closed entire units, and gave the reservists letters of discharge. If you try to coordinate it with their original dismissal date, you'll still need to input some new young reservists to e.g service the tanks in the meantime, and you're not getting any mechanics trained on the Magach when they're 18. So the only thing possible was to close down entire battalions.
@vonschlesien
@vonschlesien 10 ай бұрын
@@alimanski7941 oh absolutely, didn't mean to imply that the original discharge date determined the schedule, just that discharge and tank retirement had to be planned as a single event.
@JamesStitt-tl5ox
@JamesStitt-tl5ox 9 ай бұрын
That sight was called the infinity sight, was a illuminated circle for the coax.
@KTo288
@KTo288 Жыл бұрын
Seems strange that the music is so subdued and in the background rather than doing its best to melt everyone's eardrums.
@larrydavis7460
@larrydavis7460 Жыл бұрын
We had the first M 48’s that came out in early 50’s.I was in 44 TK Bn at Ft Bragg with 82 ABN..I was trained infantry and volunteered for Airborne. When I got to Bragg they put me in TK Bn. I had no training in Armor but I learned the basics pretty fast.I went jump school at Bragg in Oct 1954. 90% of tankers were jumpers.We lived in the old WW 2 barracks next to Pope AF Base. We had gas engines and had some fires on them. The fuel tanks were mounted on deck side . In the field we had to fill up with old hand held gas tanks and spillage on hot deck was bad .Our tanks had steering wheel with gear shifting.Mounted on the Steering like you use to have on cars. Many changes were made since then. But old M 48 was a new beginning for the the future tanks and served us well for many years . Not many of us left that had the first ones. I was lucky I guess I was a paratrooper but had a ride and no M1 on my shoulder and got extra $ 50.00 bucks got to wear my wings and spit shined jump boots. An extra bonus I got a four year college degree after discharge.
@markmclaughlin2690
@markmclaughlin2690 6 ай бұрын
On the drivers seat near the height adjustment is a dump lever the seat the seat is hinged and it drops down from one side, the parking break is located on the short selector the handle that looks like a parking break is the fuel pump purge for cold weather starting
@paulmills6338
@paulmills6338 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if I am repeating some comments but a couple of items that I did not notice in other comments. The radio configuration was for a command tank. The “push button” radio that is a R/T and there are two auxiliary receivers mounted as well so three frequencies could be monitored and one transmitted on.There would of been and additional wall mounted control box below that J box for changing to other presets instead of turning around and finding the correct button to push. There was IR ocular for the RF that would attach for viewing IR, never saw one in many years on M60s. The drivers shield for the turret basket appears to be missing. Keeps the empty casings from going out of the turret basket and jamming the turret. The primary sight housing would include the interval daylight channel and infinity sight and would have a place to slide in the IR elbow to the right of the primary ocular. The illumination for the gunners sight should of been from system powered light and then there should of been a back up, battery (C cell) that could be slid into the sights housing in case of power failure. This would of worked on primary sight or the telescope. The ballistic computer works off of cams that can be changed depending on the ammunition available. Even order could be changed but was frowned upon since changing the ammo type with the handle was supposed to be the same standard pattern for all tanks. If I remember right we used the same cam for both HEP and WP. Separate cams for HEAT, APERS, and SABOT and as SABOT changed to the fin stabilized version, the old cam was removed and replaced for a new cam. Air intakes would be switched depending on climate; in winter you do not want to draw out the heated air in the turret, water crossing needs; dont want to draw water instead of air from the hull, and as mentioned NBC probability.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 Жыл бұрын
All of ours ( NG ) in the 90s were like this except when the RT 246 ( the push button) was broken then replaced with RT 524s or worst and more common GRC 160 ( a vehicle mounted PRC 25 ) Memory from over 20 years ago
@johnallison820
@johnallison820 Жыл бұрын
When I was sent to Ft Irwin in '82(?) the M48's had the Israeli cupolas...We thought that was a big deal
@markmclaughlin2690
@markmclaughlin2690 6 ай бұрын
Batteries are in the sub turret or lower hill directly behind the driver and that door is used to access them
@jacobhill3302
@jacobhill3302 Жыл бұрын
Christmas gifts to myself this year were Honeycutt "Patton" and "Abrams", currently in the mail, looking forward to it immensely
@ralphjacobson8815
@ralphjacobson8815 Жыл бұрын
The batteries were under the turret floor and accessed through that hatch.
@Redchrome1
@Redchrome1 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you can use the phrase "to and fro" in conversation.
@edwinsalau150
@edwinsalau150 Жыл бұрын
Vision block/periscope at the gunner’s position had reticle for the co-axial if memory serves me correctly at my advanced age.
@secretmapper7595
@secretmapper7595 Жыл бұрын
Please make more of these types of vids
@user-tl5fi9lz9z
@user-tl5fi9lz9z Жыл бұрын
If the tank were on fire, the Israelis would not say "Oh Bugger!" They would say "Ma Pitom!"
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il Жыл бұрын
When firing Smoke (WP), you indexed the fire control system for HEP as they were ballistically identical. And yes, the way I remember it, there was a red light for the reticle.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be Жыл бұрын
That isn't the ballistic drive, Nick, that's the M13 ballistic computer. The ballistic drive encompasses all those arms that connect the RF to the gunner's sight and the temperature compensating link over at the loader's position, and the hydro-mechanical gearbox just above the gun to the left of the gunner's sight housing. Nick, when you talked about the elevation quadrant you pointed to part of the ballistic drive. The Quadrant Elevation device is mounted on the gun mount just to the left of the gunner's knee (can't see from this angle if it's actually mounted). Be careful when elevating the gun lest the QE wreck your kneecap.
@joe7327
@joe7327 10 ай бұрын
On the gauges in the driver's position, looks like trans oil temp, engine oil temp with corresponding pressure gauges below each temp gauge.
@JimWarford1
@JimWarford1 Жыл бұрын
Great job Nick (as usual)! I think it's important to keep in-mind that Egyptian IS-3Ms were knocking out IDF M48s in 1967 firing ammo from 1944/45 and 1947. It might have been an IS-3M that knocked out Kahalani's M48...
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be Жыл бұрын
That hatch to the sub turret is known colloquially as the battery box door. The batteries, immediately behind the driver, are accessed through that door.
@ZevGross
@ZevGross Жыл бұрын
This tank has an M31 peri-telescope installed in the gunners position. It does not have IR capability. The searchlight was used for visible lighting only.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 Жыл бұрын
Kilopascals of oil pressure had to be an Israeli change.
@Jan-hx9rw
@Jan-hx9rw Жыл бұрын
The ballistic drive had a number of cams installed, one for each type of ammunition that was supposed to be used in the tank. If your unit wasn't planned to have a particular type, like Beehive (APERS-T), you didn't have that cam installed. Actually, this was a good thing, and most vehicles were set up so the two most frequently used rounds were at either end of the camshaft. That way, you didn't have to look at the computer window when selecting a round in a hurry - you just pulled on the handle, turned it as far as it would go in either direction (such as HEAT on the clockwise end and HEP on the counter-clockwise end), the gun would add the appropriate amount of superelevation for the chosen round - presumably the same as what the TC had just called for and the loader had slammed into the breech - and fire once the TC had dialed in the range or if it was battlesight. Another point: HEP and WP were ballistically matched to the coax, so the same cam (HEP) was used for all 3 types of ammo. The stuff that sticks in your head for 40 years...🤔
@georgejr2640
@georgejr2640 Жыл бұрын
The escape hatch is easy to operate. Getting out is another thing, and then reinstalling the hatch back in place, is worse yet.
@wd4scz579
@wd4scz579 Жыл бұрын
The gunner's primary sight (M32 )would have consisted of a daylight elbow on the left and an infrared elbow on the right, both of which were equipped with a non-ballistic reticle. The unity window between them had provision for an infinity sight which was a 20 mil diameter circle. The infinity wight was intended to be the sight for the coax and was equipped with boresight knobs to adjust it. Some crews would index HEP and 800 meters and adjust the machine gun mount to bring the beaten zone in alignment with the primary sight. I was a TC on an M48A3 in RVN and loved the 90mm gun. Canister, especially, had a huge advantage over the M456 Beehive round for the 105 in that is was consistently reliable. The fuze on the Beehive was wildly erratic and never performed like the book said it would.
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative
@stephenreese5921
@stephenreese5921 10 ай бұрын
I saw and crawl on an M-48 just outside of Cairo, Egypt in the Sinai desert. It was disabled but pointed toward Cairo. I suspect it was when Israel halted it’s attack on Egypt. It was about a mile from the city out skirts!
@ROBERTN-ut2il
@ROBERTN-ut2il Жыл бұрын
Cadillac Gage was NOT the Cadillac Motor Car Division of GM
@michaelblum4968
@michaelblum4968 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Besides building a lot of components for armored vehicles, they built the V100 and V150 armored cars.
@stephenreese5921
@stephenreese5921 Жыл бұрын
I remember an intact M-48 abandoned in the desert just South of Cairo, Egypt in the early 1980’s. I thought the Israeli’s were so close to destroying Cairo that the were close to “owning” 50 million Egyptians if they wanted to!
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be Жыл бұрын
Yes, in the unity window there would be a projected "infinity" sight, an illuminated red circle.
@billdunson4174
@billdunson4174 Жыл бұрын
I was infantry 11C and when I volunteered to go for active duty, the powers that be would stuff me in a tank, I didn't know jack about being a tanker
@jesper509
@jesper509 Жыл бұрын
Know the feeling. Went from light infantry to armoured infantry, didn't know anything about CV90.
@kibo_nbgd
@kibo_nbgd Жыл бұрын
In the first two minutes of the video, in the game that "thing" on the dome we call a weak spot of tank. . . I know it's the command post but oh my god I love shooting that tank there :)))
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!! Well Done!!!
@EliteAmmunition
@EliteAmmunition 10 ай бұрын
We used to drop the escape hatch when we were hosing out the tank to clean it.
@juliusdream2683
@juliusdream2683 Жыл бұрын
How did you like old bethpage?? I went there on a field trip in school not the tank museum the old town were you feel like your back in the 1700,s. It’s great Hopefully you got to see that too you were right there. Yea that’s Nassau county. The M48 was the tank I grew up with on Long Island as they came with the green plastic army men.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be Жыл бұрын
The hand throttle merely locks the accelerator pedal in the selected position. "Cruise control" which I don't think anybody ever used. The handle to the left of the seat is to "dump" it. Don't pull that handle while seated. The park brake is the gear shift lever. While in park depress the brake pedal and then move the gear shift lever to the right notch position. Brakes are now locked (which in this video it already is). Or supposedly so. Brakes on the M48s and M60s were notoriously bad.
@genegleason4987
@genegleason4987 Жыл бұрын
The hydraulic brakes on the 60 a1,s were prone to locking up. M48 and plain m60’s had mechanical brakes that functioned properly
@deejayimm
@deejayimm Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the spider at 9:57.
@DK-ed7be
@DK-ed7be Жыл бұрын
Should be HEAT all the way in, SABOT all the way out (or vice versa, can't recall) with HEP/Smoke/APERS being in the middle position. Sometimes the M13 would have a separate cam for APERS.
@user-sz1hp3kq2m
@user-sz1hp3kq2m Жыл бұрын
Okay. The question is, when will you be able to see Nicholas Moran again in a "Big tank" like TKS-20?
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@kaiserwilhelmshatner3156
@kaiserwilhelmshatner3156 Жыл бұрын
Periscope to left of them Periscope to right of them Periscope in front of them Volley and thundered
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@adampeter1334
@adampeter1334 Жыл бұрын
New tech tree? :D
@wwobbles
@wwobbles Жыл бұрын
Is the hours for tracking engine maintenance? (so you know when it needs the necessary maintenance for 100hrs or something?)
@TiberiusMaximus
@TiberiusMaximus Жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on crew heaters, when first used and how they worked? I've always wondered especially in Russian tanks
@genegleason4987
@genegleason4987 Жыл бұрын
The m60 series and the diesel m48’s had the crew heater was located RHS bottom of the drivers position. A flex tube carried the heat from the heater back to the turret. When the heaters worked they would run you out of them. I remember zero weather in a static night position I wore a t shirt in the TC hatch. Unfortunately the driver’s trying to start them by hand would flood them. Then you had to drop the heater out and empty the diesel fuel.
@thomasdelong9927
@thomasdelong9927 Жыл бұрын
The gunners sight is missing the IR sight.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
Does/didn't the Abrams have an 'umbrella' position for the TC's hatch?
@JBall-hd8bw
@JBall-hd8bw Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's called open-protective position.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
@@JBall-hd8bw Thanks! I wondered if it had been deleted, given all the new sensors.
@mikeff15
@mikeff15 Жыл бұрын
That's how Nick used his hatch when he was in the M1. He talked about it when he did "inside the hatch" on the Panther.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeff15 He also mentioned it in a blog he wrote during his Iraq deployment. There is also a photo of a vision block that took a bullet that otherwise would have hit him in the face. When I first heard about the covered position (on the M48A5), I wondered why it wasn't thought of long before, even in WWII.
@mikeff15
@mikeff15 Жыл бұрын
@@petesheppard1709 I remember watching Paton 360, and one of the tankers was working in a heads up condition. A sniper shot him, and he found himself on the turret floor with a hole in his helmet, and his cap, but not his head. The risks you take for situational awareness.
@Mark-lv1ub
@Mark-lv1ub 10 ай бұрын
At 5:07. It seems that the commander would not have an accurate range. Within the museum, it gauges in the thousands of meters. How so? And what is the fix?
@mrains100
@mrains100 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@EliteAmmunition
@EliteAmmunition 10 ай бұрын
Fire resistant does not mean fire proof. I know this first hand due to a significant emotional event .
@haloangel007
@haloangel007 Жыл бұрын
After 2 year, i come back game and feel that music of WoT is better 🥰- more relaxing 🌿 . Especially in beginning of every match. Thank you so much! 🎉🎊
@JBall-hd8bw
@JBall-hd8bw Жыл бұрын
Leave it to stupid gun laws to screw up a perfectly good museum piece.
@johnmorrison2226
@johnmorrison2226 Жыл бұрын
APDS or HEAT? I read somewhere that the go-to anti-tank round in 1973 was HESH. I was surprised as everyone thinks APDS was the killer. Would be nice to know what an actual Israeli tanker had to say.
@andyoertig2007
@andyoertig2007 Жыл бұрын
I joined the US Army in 75 & served over 20 years as an 11 Echo/19 Echo (Dino Tanker) and ending as a 19 Kilo, neither HESH or HEP was my preferred Anti Tank round! My preferred choices were SABOT, HEAT & Willie Pete (OH BOOGERS! The Tank is on Fire!) in that order before HEP or HESH! HESH or HEP as the US called it, is a very slow moving round... Not the best choice as an Anti Tank Round. When HESH/HEP hits the target (hopefully), it mushrooms out to about the size of a 12' dinner plate and causes SPALDING on the inside of the target. IF the Round hits something like a Roadwheel or Sponsonbox or any other spaced armor on the outside of the tank, the crew might suffer from a concusion...
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many drivers have had to be powerhosed out of stricken tanks over the years...seems like almost all tanks put them up front and center to eat enemy rounds.
@johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899
@johnmoorhousedecorated-nam899 4 ай бұрын
HOME for me...
@Damien_N
@Damien_N Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an Israeli tree in game. But I’d imagine finding low tier vehicles will be a challenge.
@harlech2
@harlech2 Жыл бұрын
Everything would be copy-and-paste from the American, British and French tech trees pretty much. I believe that you wouldn't get anything indigenous until the Merkava and that would be far too late. Although, honestly, they did have some interesting Frankentanks with the M4FL, the M50 and -51. Although I think some fun could be had with upgraded equipment like engines and transmissions... essentially giving different stats from their American, British and French counterparts.
@Damien_N
@Damien_N Жыл бұрын
@@harlech2 Merkava Mk. 1 and 2 had the L7 gun … so you there’s the 9 and 10. Shot (Centurion) and Magach could form 2 alternate medium branches leading to it. Or one could be the premium tier 8 or 9. I’d like a whole bunch of fun nonsense before that though
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 Жыл бұрын
@@Damien_N merksvas would not fit the game for the same reason T-72 and challenger do not. If they are added and their modular composition armor is not modeled, it will be unfair to the tanks M50 super Sherman t6 M51 super Sherman t7 Tiran t8 Sh'ot t9 Magach 7 (early) t10
@Werner4voss
@Werner4voss Жыл бұрын
@@mahmoodali5043 m51is basically m4 rev and its tier 8
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 Жыл бұрын
@@Werner4voss They literally have tank copies of each other with the same names one is premium and the other standard. They can do a rename and a slightly different model, like make an M51 based on an M4A2E8 instead of the premium one being based on the M4A1
@cmanningdeal6228
@cmanningdeal6228 Жыл бұрын
I love the CC option on these, but what on earth is an "OOZI??" [LOL ]
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